0 1 Wed, Sep 8, 9:02AM EST Azbug Hello? Where'd everybody go? 2 Wed, Sep 8, 10:44AM EST anonymous Oooo....all alone! Am I the only bass player left in dis world? Think of all the gigs I can now get! 3 Wed, Sep 8, 10:45AM EST anonymous Oooo....all alone! Am I the only bass player left in dis world? Think of all the gigs I can now get! 4 Wed, Sep 8, 10:45AM EST JohnnieA Hi Az! 5 Wed, Sep 8, 10:47AM EST MidiMe Hmmm.....wha happened to all the messages? 6 Wed, Sep 8, 11:55AM EST big g MidiMe>my fault. I wrote bassman about having to go through the last 10 days of messages each time I surfed in. 7 Wed, Sep 8, 12:21AM EST fear... No big g ,, my fault, too many spelling errors , server freaked. 8 Wed, Sep 8, 12:23AM EST big g LOL another true confession 9 Wed, Sep 8, 12:45AM EST fear... LOL ?? 10 Wed, Sep 8, 2:42PM EST big g Laughing Out Loud 11 Wed, Sep 8, 2:59PM EST fear.... Wheeeew I thought it was "lack of learning" Speaking of learning, hows cordless feel? Is the Sure EB working ok? 12 Wed, Sep 8, 3:20PM EST Jason Anyone seen those Pro Co Fat Max speaker cables made to hook go from head to cabinet? Any experience? 13 Wed, Sep 8, 3:20PM EST Jason pardon my English 14 Wed, Sep 8, 4:06PM EST fear.... Hi Jason, Don't worry about the english... they put up with me.. what part of the world are you from? 15 Wed, Sep 8, 8:13PM EST big g Going down to da big city tomale. I be wireless when I return. 16 Wed, Sep 8, 10:28PM EST levite big G....no your all wrong....it my fault...I was on a mini tour...and asked the server to hold all the posts for me......just so i wouldnt miss the gossip....by the way... ive been wireless for about 3 years now....played with a cord last night...tripped all over myself ...felt like a rookie again....... 17 Thu, Sep 9, 0:27AM EST rbacker G-you going to skips or do you have a secret shop I don't know about? 18 Thu, Sep 9, 0:29AM EST rbacker Off to bed, working 11 hour days trying to keep up wit da lift drivers. Tired of being tired in the block biz. 19 Thu, Sep 9, 4:53AM EST musicbox Hi everybody !! I'm a french girl. I'm lookin for bass tabs of Hole... Does anyone have some ? Thanks ! 20 Thu, Sep 9, 7:56AM EST nobody in Hole could write tab,or much less play it if someone did write it what an awful band. The alternative to music 21 Thu, Sep 9, 8:29AM EST anonymous test 22 Thu, Sep 9, 9:32AM EST anonymous Hello everyone 23 Thu, Sep 9, 9:32AM EST anonymous Hello everyone 24 Thu, Sep 9, 10:40AM EST less is more hello, my friends. does anyone know: is les claypool playing a geddy lee - fender jazz bass (on CD rhinosaurus - or something like that)? has anyone experience with the marleaux jazz bass (from germany)? because I'm not in here regularly, could you tell me to: belpo@gmx.at god bless all the fat and funny fingers doing funny things with strings. can't get enough of patrick o'hearn on zappas yo'mama. 25 Thu, Sep 9, 11:57AM EST Fat Bastard Who likes to eat twinkies while playing the bass???? 26 Thu, Sep 9, 12:38AM EST fear You must have to change strings often...yuck! 27 Thu, Sep 9, 12:54AM EST anonymous test 28 Thu, Sep 9, 12:59AM EST fear T........EST TTTTTTTest Testing 1 2 3 eeeeeee ZAP!! One of those US Bass mics Hehe. 29 Thu, Sep 9, 1:31PM EST fear Well, Good things do happen. Just got a call from the realestate agent ..My wife and I now owne 43 acers in northen Arkansas, about one and a half hours from Branson and 1/4 mile from lake Norfork. Been planning a small mom & pop resort. Will have a covered stage 40 ft wide X 20 ft deep.Will get started on it as soon as we sell out here!! NO MORE TOWERS 30 Thu, Sep 9, 4:27PM EST where's my TBL? 31 Thu, Sep 9, 6:09PM EST fear Everyone who sees this will be welcome. You too Bassman! What T B L ? 32 Thu, Sep 9, 6:29PM EST King BassBalls fear>>>TBL stands for "The Bottom Line". It is a bass digest delivered daily to your computer. Lots of information. You should check it out. 33 Thu, Sep 9, 7:19PM EST anonymousandthensome I was wondering why you would need a wireless anyway, unless you plan on running all over the stage, I havent seen many bass players move more than 3 feet from thier amps, not trying to be a wise guy here, just cant see the need to spend the bucks on something that a $25. dollar cord can provide. 34 Thu, Sep 9, 8:02PM EST Skeeter849 Will some one tell me or give me the notations for the bass. I am just starting to play. 35 Thu, Sep 9, 8:06PM EST anonymous hello 36 Thu, Sep 9, 8:21PM EST anonymousandthensome Skeet> Starting at G is the first string (thinnest), D is the second, A is the third, E is the 4th string. If you mean written, G B D F A are the lines, A C E G are the spaces. Hope this helps. 37 Thu, Sep 9, 10:20PM EST anonymousats 43 ACRES! What did you do hit the lotto! 38 Fri, Sep 10, 0:26AM EST Rbacker fear, good luck with the plans! 43 acres in Calif. would cost the same as the Gross National Product of some countries! A guy on TV climbed a 500' tower to change the strobe, what a view. 39 Fri, Sep 10, 1:15AM EST Mr.Bass If you like FUNKY bass playing you gotta check this guy out, listen to some samples on his page.. button have no clue how he did Mal-Funk-Shen 40 Fri, Sep 10, 1:16AM EST anonymous button 41 Fri, Sep 10, 1:17AM EST Mr. Bass Darn...I just cant seem to get that page to load..oh well.. If I can figure it out I will repost.. 42 Fri, Sep 10, 4:32AM EST anonymous Hey I'm Danny 43 Fri, Sep 10, 4:33AM EST BILLABONG Somone talk to me! 44 Fri, Sep 10, 4:34AM EST BILLABONG Hey Bass Man You There 45 Fri, Sep 10, 4:35AM EST anonymous Hi Bass Man 46 Fri, Sep 10, 4:36AM EST anonymous Bass MAN SPEAK TO ME 47 Fri, Sep 10, 9:29AM EST fear Land is still cheep up here, but going up quick.. We got a very good deal.. Looks like we will start after the 1 st.... can't wait!! 48 Fri, Sep 10, 9:35AM EST fear Yesthe view is awsome. I'll miss that.but hea , We have a wonderful view from our land ! TGIF everyone!! 49 Fri, Sep 10, 9:53AM EST Jim Jamb hello, anyone one line? 50 Fri, Sep 10, 10:14AM EST Jim Jamb Guess not .I'll check in later. 51 Fri, Sep 10, 1:51PM EST testinggggg 52 Fri, Sep 10, 1:53PM EST A taks !!!1 reply kar ... 53 Fri, Sep 10, 1:56PM EST taka !!!!!! 54 Fri, Sep 10, 2:00PM EST 121212 55 Fri, Sep 10, 2:06PM EST Hi RK, R U still there? Am I late? 56 Fri, Sep 10, 2:08PM EST Hi Taks !!!! 57 Fri, Sep 10, 2:08PM EST Finally tu aalas 58 Fri, Sep 10, 2:08PM EST Sumant tu aahe s ka ? 59 Fri, Sep 10, 2:09PM EST Ye Yes 60 Fri, Sep 10, 2:09PM EST Good.. to phir plane ka kya hua ? Abhi tak jamin per hi hai ?? 61 Fri, Sep 10, 2:09PM EST Are Ravi, He Refresh karat basayala lagat na? 62 Fri, Sep 10, 2:09PM EST I think sumant tera idea kam kar sakta hai .. 63 Fri, Sep 10, 2:10PM EST ho tula darveli hat btn var click karav lagel. te refresh hot nahi. 64 Fri, Sep 10, 2:10PM EST Nahi, Mere is Plane ka Ticket bahut mahanga hai re.. Parwadega nahi.. 65 Fri, Sep 10, 2:10PM EST Vaise right bros ko bhi log ullu samj rahe the to phir tuze .. 66 Fri, Sep 10, 2:11PM EST kisi bhi nayi chiz ka bhav bahot rahata hai .. dhire dhire kam ho jayega.. 67 Fri, Sep 10, 2:11PM EST aur kya yaar. s/w eng. hoke tu paise ki chinta karta hai ? Woh bhi billu bhaiyya ke sahar mein ? 68 Fri, Sep 10, 2:13PM EST Ha re.. Ravi, Shruticha phone hota.. Next plan kadhi mag? 69 Fri, Sep 10, 2:13PM EST kasala ?? Next plan ?? 70 Fri, Sep 10, 2:14PM EST Seattle/Atlanta..Re 71 Fri, Sep 10, 2:14PM EST Are ho aai Sigapore air ne aai hoti. Pan tila halt khup vel hota jatana. 72 Fri, Sep 10, 2:14PM EST Pan tine sigapore baghun ghetal. 73 Fri, Sep 10, 2:15PM EST Pan West varun planes yetach nahi ka? 74 Fri, Sep 10, 2:15PM EST May be seattle la nov . last wk madhe .. 75 Fri, Sep 10, 2:15PM EST Yetat. Pan thod mahag padat. May be it will cost u aroiund 150-200 $ more. 76 Fri, Sep 10, 2:16PM EST Sweta parat ali ka re? 77 Fri, Sep 10, 2:16PM EST Pan tuzya sarkhya shrimantala kay yaar... 78 Fri, Sep 10, 2:16PM EST Sweta, udya parat yet aahe. Udya dupari 3.15 la. ha wkend thoda tp hoil. 79 Fri, Sep 10, 2:17PM EST tuze aai baba kadhi yet aahet ? 80 Fri, Sep 10, 2:17PM EST SHRIMANT fakt peshawyanchya kalat hote re! Boss, Mahesh ch hyaveli lagech mail al, bar vatal yaar! 81 Fri, Sep 10, 2:18PM EST tu ek bd room apt ghetal ahes ki 2 bd ? 82 Fri, Sep 10, 2:19PM EST Sahi aahe ? any news from mahesh ? Aani Shrimant kay yaar .. aapan aahotch.. manane . 83 Fri, Sep 10, 2:19PM EST Baki mac ne lihil hot ki vijaya is due last wk or may be this wk kay zal mahit nahi. 84 Fri, Sep 10, 2:20PM EST 1 Bd room pan area 730 ahe. Are, chuklya chukyasarakh vatat karan Atl madhe chhot hot. Actually evadhya jagechi kahi garaj nahi re, tech amhi kal bolat hoto.. Tuz kas ahe? 85 Fri, Sep 10, 2:21PM EST Abe Ye Kimpal..Kam Hai Kam Hai kahke Mail Par Mail Bhejta Hai.. 86 Fri, Sep 10, 2:21PM EST i am not sure pan i think 680-700 aahe. pan 1 bd chg ahe. Pan mala watal kadachit tu aai-baba na bolawat ahes tar. 87 Fri, Sep 10, 2:22PM EST chalta hai. tevdhach tp.. tyala pan kam karaycha mood disat nahi 88 Fri, Sep 10, 2:22PM EST baki hya monday la ganpati aahe ka re ?? 89 Fri, Sep 10, 2:23PM EST Ai-Baba na bolawin bahutek ithech. Mahesh chi news ajun tari nahiye pan kadhihi yeil. Edichi kahi news? 90 Fri, Sep 10, 2:24PM EST Eddi barobar kon lagan karnar. Aaplya paya var dhonda marun kon ghenar yaar. 91 Fri, Sep 10, 2:24PM EST tuzya najret koni aahe ka ? Btw, sweta Rama barobar touch madhe aahe. 92 Fri, Sep 10, 2:24PM EST Ganpati ahe khara..Ajach Web var add baghitli..Ek Ganpati order kela ki Ek Sweets cha daba free..Kay yaar? 93 Fri, Sep 10, 2:25PM EST Sahi aahe. Are ethe maharashtra mandal aahe te lok ganpati basavtat. Kadhi aahe mahit nahi. lagana nantar touch rahila nahi. Pan find out karun jayla maja yeil. 94 Fri, Sep 10, 2:26PM EST ganpti farch miss hotot yaar. 95 Fri, Sep 10, 2:26PM EST Edi Ni Mulgi Baghatana AT ghalayachi Na Ku Mulichya Dolyavar ani Kanavar Patti pahije Mhanun.. Ani Any Way..Maz Lagn Zal Tar Edi ch Ka honar Nahi? 96 Fri, Sep 10, 2:27PM EST Ganpati Far Miss Hotoy.. Mahesh La Pan Ganpati Nahi Tar Paishacha Problem Janwat Asanar. 97 Fri, Sep 10, 2:27PM EST tu yaar raja manus aahes. Bagh na mitran sathi kiti kartos tu.. aata edie la chadhvayla tu swata khali ur\tarat aahes .. eddi ne vachal tar radu yeil tyla. 98 Fri, Sep 10, 2:28PM EST khar aahe. Aata tyala swatache sare var kharch .. ( i mean daru. ciga..) karave lagat asatil na. Baki b'lore madhe tyache eddie sarkhe koni mitra nasatil tar far kami yeil kharch tyala . 99 Fri, Sep 10, 2:29PM EST Edi Radanar Asel Tar te Baghayala Mi Tickit Pan Kadhayala Tayar Ahe.. 100 Fri, Sep 10, 2:29PM EST konach ? Tyach tuz ki maz ?? 101 Fri, Sep 10, 2:30PM EST Kimpal Ch. Tyachya navani Nidan Ekakhad tari Tickit Paise Deun Yeude! 102 Fri, Sep 10, 2:30PM EST Are aatach baghat hoto aamchya ethe 18 la ganpati aahe. pooja v aarati aahe. aarti karun barech divas zale yaar. 103 Fri, Sep 10, 2:31PM EST Ravi, Boss, aj Tula Kasa Aram ahe? Sweta Geli Tar Tuz Kam Hot Nahi Bahutek! 104 Fri, Sep 10, 2:33PM EST are as nahi. ek major change karaycha hgota to mon la due aahe. pan to kalch zala maza karun mag tp karayla kay harkat na. baki sau navati tara off. madhe barach vel asaycho me. 105 Fri, Sep 10, 2:33PM EST Pan tu etka free kasa kay ? 106 Fri, Sep 10, 2:34PM EST Boss, Gele 3 diwas asach ahe..Ithe Yeun Web Baghat basalo Hoto. Mangalwari kay te assign hoil ata. Govt Fund madhun amhala thevlay tyamule Public aramat ahe bahutek. Kalat nahi.. 107 Fri, Sep 10, 2:34PM EST taks, mag aajkal tu lunch ch kay kartos ? i mean ghari jatos ki daba ?? 108 Fri, Sep 10, 2:35PM EST sahi aahe. web var kay kay ganmat janmat baghitlyas ?? 109 Fri, Sep 10, 2:36PM EST Are Ghari Jato..3 diwas kam navat re. Mazya Barobarache ithech Basun 8 Tas Bharat Hote..Mi Apartment chya Pan Mage Hoto. Mala milayala Jara Ushir zala hota.. 110 Fri, Sep 10, 2:36PM EST Are ethe hi kahi khar nahi. Ethlya konala web kasahshi khatat mahit nahi.Tyat maza boss he project sodun start up madhe gela ahe pan thode extra paise milave hya sathi ajun hya project madhe tang thevun ahe. 111 Fri, Sep 10, 2:37PM EST Kay problem kay zale ? Hopefully tu sangitale le tya peksha kahi far jast zale nasatil ? 112 Fri, Sep 10, 2:38PM EST Baki divas bhar kay karat asatois ? Vaise aaj me tuzya barobar lunchla yeu shaken arthat tu bolavalas tar ... 113 Fri, Sep 10, 2:38PM EST Web Cha Pan Kantala Ala re 3 diwasat Bore Zalo..Shevti Mi Vattel Te Site Address pan Deun Baghat Hoto..Kay Vattel Te nav Takal tari kunachi Tari Site Nighatech. BTW Mahesh.com baghitli ahes? Changli site ahe re 114 Fri, Sep 10, 2:38PM EST mahesh .com ?? Mahesh chi aahe ka ?? 115 Fri, Sep 10, 2:39PM EST aattach mahesh.com baghitali. aajkal kiti portal yet aahet yaar. 116 Fri, Sep 10, 2:40PM EST tula election baddal kay watat ? Kon jinkel ?? 117 Fri, Sep 10, 2:40PM EST do u know www.dawn.com ? 118 Fri, Sep 10, 2:41PM EST Are Boss, Major PUNGA zala, tula mi aj ek mail forward karin te vach. Pan mi mazya Company la kahi sangitl navat. Attach Join keliye. Kam vagere prove zal ki mag bolal tar thik na...pan tyana pan kall. Khup changli company ahe yaar. Barich madat keli. Adhicha DESI asata tar kahi zal nasat. 119 Fri, Sep 10, 2:42PM EST kay zal? Hopefully aatta Everything ok ? Do u want to tell me something more abt it ? 120 Fri, Sep 10, 2:43PM EST Hi dawn.com mi baghitli nahiye. Baghin. Election? Bahutek BJP ch. Pan mi gelyach kahi diwasat Avinash Dharmadhikari cha BJP chya TACTICS varacha Lekh vachala yaar. Solid Bore public ahe ithe pan.. 121 Fri, Sep 10, 2:43PM EST Btw, shruti ne job search chalu kela ka ? Is she planning to ? 122 Fri, Sep 10, 2:44PM EST Ravi, Apartment baddal tar mi tula mazya adhichya boss la (maza to baryapeki thik mitr ahe) pathavalel mail forward karin. Tyat sagal ahe. 123 Fri, Sep 10, 2:44PM EST dawn.com .. pakistancha new paper aahe. Kargil prakarnat khup charcha zali hoti. Tyat headlines india madhe kayzal tya asatat pan views tynche asatat. tar thoda tp hoto. Baki BJP yayla pahije. Jar ka Soniya PM zali tar tras hoil yaar. 124 Fri, Sep 10, 2:45PM EST Mazach recruiter tila hya week madhe phone karin mhanalay..Toch interview arrange karun visa process karel nahuda.. 125 Fri, Sep 10, 2:45PM EST oki doki. Bki times ne navi election site chlu keli ti pahilis ka ? Aani tuza captain Tendlya .. tyach kay zal re ??? 126 Fri, Sep 10, 2:47PM EST Are Site Pahili..Cricket var saddhya kay Bolanar yaar? Barech mahine zale Cricket baghitl pan Nahiye.. 127 Fri, Sep 10, 2:47PM EST sahi aahe. Pan tumchi amit/shilpa sarkhi same area vagere aat nahi ahe ka ? karan Amit la Fortuna madhe va tekedge ( kimpal chi firm) madhe job milala hota pan tyani to ghretala nahi karan shilpa la milala nahi job. Tas tumch kahi ahe ka ? 128 Fri, Sep 10, 2:47PM EST ka re baba .. tu asa cricket sodun dilas tar tendulkar konasathi khelnar .. tarich to aatasha batting karat nahi.. 129 Fri, Sep 10, 2:48PM EST baki Sweta chya job cha kahi khar disat nahi. Are ethe company la kay havtech exactly kalat nahi ahe. may be ti ekcourse karel asa vichar aahe. 130 Fri, Sep 10, 2:49PM EST Nahi Re..Basic intentions don hoti..Mala VB-ASP madhe Kam Karayach Hot ani Tila VB Madhe Job. Tila Dusarya Companimadhe Milala Tar Mi Hi company Sodun (garaj asel tar) Tithe Pan Join Karin..Tila Experience Havay yaar.. 131 Fri, Sep 10, 2:49PM EST dawn kashi watli ? u will have to visit it offen to n'joy it. karan views madhe barach farak padto yaar. 132 Fri, Sep 10, 2:50PM EST Kuthala Course Karanar ahe? Pan Chhavya Tu Visa Process Karun Thevayacha Vichar nahi karat ahes? 133 Fri, Sep 10, 2:50PM EST Te zalch. Pan mala watat ki if she tries for a full time i mean permanent position tar far problem yenar nahi na .. so that u can contine with the same job 134 Fri, Sep 10, 2:50PM EST DAWN baghitli nahi ajun..Pan Baghin.. 135 Fri, Sep 10, 2:52PM EST Permanent Position Milnar Nahi..No chance..Amhi sagal kahi try karun baghitl Atlanta hun.. 136 Fri, Sep 10, 2:52PM EST nahi. Are aamch GC chalu aahe. aani hopefully we will reach a stage jithe she will no longer be require to have an H1 to start a job. te kadachit 4-5 mahinya t hoil asa andaj aahe. Tar to paryant ethe standford univ. madhe biomedical courses aahet ti karel asa plan aahe. 137 Fri, Sep 10, 2:52PM EST thik aahe. dawn far kahi great nahi aahe pan vachayla kadhi kadhi maja yete. 138 Fri, Sep 10, 2:53PM EST Fundu..Boss, tuz GC ata hot al kay? Great yaar. Mag tar tumhala kahich problem nahiye..No Hurry and No worry 139 Fri, Sep 10, 2:54PM EST karan tya courses barobar placement celsl pan aahet so hopefully they will help her to get a job. 140 Fri, Sep 10, 2:55PM EST Sahi Hai... 141 Fri, Sep 10, 2:55PM EST Gc hot nahi aal. It will take another 2 years. Pan tyat teen stage asatat aani aajkal gc cha kam govt. jara fast karat aahe. so i am expecting ki we will clear first stage fast so that we will no longer have to get H1. karan tya aadhi chya stages lavkar clear hot aahet aajkal. Arthat GC yei paryant mala company sodta yenar nai pan jar ka tila job ethech milala tar problem nahi na. 142 Fri, Sep 10, 2:57PM EST Tas GC yayla ajun 2 varsh tari lagtil. Pan thik aahe. i mean jari GC n yeta jar ka ti H1 madhe adaknar nasel tar mala far ghai nahi aahe. 143 Fri, Sep 10, 2:57PM EST Yes sir! Planning sahi lagta hai.. 144 Fri, Sep 10, 2:58PM EST Ho re barobar ahe. 145 Fri, Sep 10, 2:58PM EST Aani mag tas asel tar 4-5 mahinyat kay farak pafdto na. karan anyway tila h1 milayla tevdhach vel lagel na. 146 Fri, Sep 10, 2:59PM EST karan ethe s/w madhe public h1 karayla tayar asat pan baki biomed industry madhe kamala manus zatkan hava asto te 4-5 mahine nahi thmbu shkat. So hopefully that will also help her. Baghu kay hot te. 147 Fri, Sep 10, 3:00PM EST Ravi, Public Lunch la challay..Aj Friday mhanun. Mi pan jato mhanato.. 148 Fri, Sep 10, 3:00PM EST baki Seattle var tumhi lok khush aahta ka ? i mean is a better place than atlanta ? 149 Fri, Sep 10, 3:01PM EST oki doki koi bat nahi. parat aalya var jar ka chat karaych asel tar mala mail tak. sadharan 1.30 la ?? thik aahe .. chal mag. have fun 150 Fri, Sep 10, 3:02PM EST Shruti ajibat khush nahiye...Tila Atl avadat karan amhi Seattle chya tas baher ahot..Indian shops, Restaurants kami ahet..Mala he avadal. Small and sweet. Boss, mi ata jatoy..Mi tula Apt ch mail forward karin..OK? 151 Fri, Sep 10, 3:03PM EST 152 Fri, Sep 10, 3:08PM EST Bloke Hello 153 Fri, Sep 10, 5:03PM EST fear What the hell was that!!! 154 Fri, Sep 10, 6:10PM EST Sounds like they will invade saturday at 1:30 ! Aribic ? >>>big g thanks , Lots of info at T B L . Signed up. 155 Fri, Sep 10, 6:54PM EST aats LOL!....Give em an inch...and they take over the board! 156 Fri, Sep 10, 10:14PM EST 157 Sat, Sep 11, 0:04AM EST Rbacker Looks like they're going to bomb Seattle. Maybe the freak will slow them down. 158 Sat, Sep 11, 8:43AM EST big g Bought the Shure True Diversity Wireless. aats>>2 reasons for purchasing. First was to disconnect so I wont receive any more GD shocks from touching the mic, a problem you wont find playing drums. Second, we dont have a sound man, so I will now be able to walk off stage and do a sound check after we start playing. Added benefit is being able to dance with the lovely ladies. I did a sound check at my friends, walked out of his house and down the street at least 350' with no loss of sound or break up on the B string. 159 Sat, Sep 11, 10:32AM EST big g EB>>>Thanks again for the info on the Shure. 160 Sat, Sep 11, 12:16AM EST Grump Big G The third reason you gave for buying the wireless is really the most important at least IMHO. Has anyone bought anything through E-Bay? Any comments? 161 Sat, Sep 11, 12:36AM EST big g Grump>I've bought a few things through Ebay. If the seller has no feedback I would be cautious. Now that more people have found it the deals are few and far between although there are some occasionally. I'd say 75% of the sellers are dealers now. I have purchased a SWR Workingman 300 for $286. SD pu for $35. Fender 400ps amp that was completely destroyed in shipping $275 plus $75 for shipping (got my money back but will never again deal with Rippers Music in Virginia!!)If you have any specific questions on Ebay e-mail me at rumblethump@yahoo.com and I'll be happy to answer them. 162 Sat, Sep 11, 12:58AM EST Hazzard is there anybody out there? 163 Sat, Sep 11, 1:00PM EST Hazzard Big G...I used to run wireless...but found it changed my tone.....any grief for you? 164 Sat, Sep 11, 1:24PM EST King BassBalls I have purchased several things thru ebay. Never had any problems. I stay away from those with no feedback.There is an escrow service if you got a lot of money riding on something. The deals are becoming scarce. I've seen people pay more than they could get new. Caught up in the bidding I guess. Bid only what you are willing to pay to get a deal, there will always be another "what-ever-you-want" in a day or two. 165 Sat, Sep 11, 1:27PM EST Hazzard Hey King...how goes it? 166 Sat, Sep 11, 1:30PM EST Hazzard I'm still not sure about buyind off the net. I like to see what I'm getting. 167 Sat, Sep 11, 1:31PM EST Hazzard Then again...I'm Canadian, and with exchange, I don't save anyway. 168 Sat, Sep 11, 1:31PM EST big g Hazzard>Just had it one day so far. Sounded pretty good in the store and on my friends G*&^*r amp. I will a/b it with a cord on my amp today and see if there is a noticeable difference. 169 Sat, Sep 11, 1:34PM EST big g I only look at instruments if they have a return policy or close enough to go play first. I bought and sold my jazz bass at Harmony Central. It was 140 miles away so I drove up and played it first. 170 Sat, Sep 11, 1:38PM EST Hazzard Cool enuff...But I still prefer to get my hands on it first....what are U playing on now? 171 Sat, Sep 11, 1:44PM EST big g 5 string carvin is 1st choice but I also have a neckthrough cort headless 4 string with barts that is my backup (backsaver) bass. Whats your weapon of choice? 172 Sat, Sep 11, 1:47PM EST Hazzard A Fender P with active preamp and a Warmoth neck. How do you find the Cort? I was looking at an Artitsan 6 string. 173 Sat, Sep 11, 1:52PM EST Hazzard p.S....What R barts? 174 Sat, Sep 11, 1:53PM EST big g the build quality is decent for their price range. Didn't like the stock pus. The Artisan didn't get too good of a review in Bass Player 5 string shoot out. I think you have to take each instrument on their own though. It isnt about the name,its about how they play and sound that counts. 175 Sat, Sep 11, 1:54PM EST big g Sorry Haz, Bartolini. Great pickups. 176 Sat, Sep 11, 1:56PM EST big g button check em out. 177 Sat, Sep 11, 1:57PM EST Hazzard I saw one in a store here in Edmonton. 1000$ Canadian for a 6 string. I agree... the "mighty mite" PUs suck....but EMG loaded the thing might rock. 178 Sat, Sep 11, 2:03PM EST big g Not sure on the monetary conversion rate, but I see them around $4-600 at Ebay pretty often. 179 Sat, Sep 11, 4:10PM EST anonymous does anyone know where to find ac/dc bass tabs 180 Sat, Sep 11, 4:56PM EST Azbug big g: I was up in Canada last month and the exchange rate would put the bass Hazzard saw at the price range you mentioned. I think it was $.65 Canadian to our dollar. Have fun with that wireless! :-) Hazzard: Where in Canada are you? 181 Sat, Sep 11, 5:28PM EST Why would anyone need ac/dc tabs? 182 Sat, Sep 11, 8:37PM EST Hazzard Hello? 183 Sat, Sep 11, 8:37PM EST Hazzard Sorry..needed the time check 184 Sat, Sep 11, 8:44PM EST Hazzard Azbug...in Thompson Manitoba right now...doing a gig, but I live in Edmonton Alberta 185 Sat, Sep 11, 8:46PM EST Hazzard dear... Because kids need to learn somewhere....didn't you start on AC/DC? 186 Sat, Sep 11, 8:51PM EST aats big g> Those are legit reasons for a wireless, see you learn something new everyday here..even another language I noticed, ha ha., especially liked the sound check deal, now if I can only convince my bassist to look into it.. 187 Sat, Sep 11, 9:02PM EST anonymous Big g Agreed...I like being able to talk to the soundman and tell him what, and wireless is great for that...but I actually learned what my main frequencies are and now I dictate my tone to soundmen/ 188 Sat, Sep 11, 9:03PM EST anonymous big g do you find the wireless changes your tone? 189 Sun, Sep 12, 1:24AM EST MadBassist button the BassPages - does any one know where I can find some phish bass tabs? 190 Sun, Sep 12, 6:36AM EST Funk Knutz Boy do I miss the cocktail gig. Coming home this late and this wired just might screw up what's left of the weekend. Standards/blues/oldies tonight. Big G I am glad to see that there's another reg around here besides Rbacker who doesn't play a Fender, and jam the Fender Bender the one and only Ender Philosophy down people's throats. You often give out stright up objective advice.-That's refreshing. Again-thanks to "Mr. P" for fixing us up with this chat room. Again- "I pity the fool that doesn't thank Mr. P." 191 Sun, Sep 12, 9:58AM EST Andrew Hey, I went to the Rex in Toronto to see Lorne Lofsky, and his bass player was outstanding. Neil Swainson was his name. If you are in the Toronto area, watch out for him. 192 Sun, Sep 12, 10:01AM EST Skiball MADBASS>>> I saw a guy at a Phish concert selling tabs in the parking lot. hee hee 193 Sun, Sep 12, 10:01AM EST Andrew Anyone here ever tried to take their frets off of their neck? Any suggestions? I have a cheap P-bass copy that I'm playing with and fixing/destroying (depending on your perspective). 194 Sun, Sep 12, 10:02AM EST Andrew Hey Skiball, what's up? 195 Sun, Sep 12, 10:02AM EST Skiball Me finaly! 196 Sun, Sep 12, 10:03AM EST Andrew hehe, where are you from? 197 Sun, Sep 12, 10:03AM EST Skiball I de fretted my j 198 Sun, Sep 12, 10:03AM EST Skiball Orlando fl 199 Sun, Sep 12, 10:03AM EST Andrew Oh yeah? How'd that go? 200 Sun, Sep 12, 10:04AM EST Andrew I'm in Toronto, Canada 201 Sun, Sep 12, 10:06AM EST Skiball At first Itried horseshoe pliers. but they wouldnt bite. So i took a razor knife and tapped it allonng both sides of the fret with a real small hammer 202 Sun, Sep 12, 10:06AM EST Andrew Still there Skiball? 203 Sun, Sep 12, 10:08AM EST Andrew What did you use on the neck afterwards? How did you fill the holes? I read that Jaco used plastic wood to fill in the holes, then used boat epoxy on the neck. 204 Sun, Sep 12, 10:09AM EST Skiball I takes a lot of blades and a lot of patience. Going along each side will "rock" the fret out of the slot ......eh? 205 Sun, Sep 12, 10:10AM EST Skiball I used plastic wood too. T epoxy isnt realy necessary at first 206 Sun, Sep 12, 10:11AM EST Andrew Hmm, I see. How long did it take you? 207 Sun, Sep 12, 10:12AM EST Andrew So you play fretless now? Ever use sliding harmonics? 208 Sun, Sep 12, 10:13AM EST Skiball I actualy covered the WHOLE neck with pl wood and sanded it down to the rosewood 209 Sun, Sep 12, 10:14AM EST Andrew How does it sound? 210 Sun, Sep 12, 10:15AM EST Skiball A day to pull frets... Take your time of coarse/ I love sliding harmonics...its kinda fun 211 Sun, Sep 12, 10:17AM EST Andrew Yeah, I'm still experimenting with the sliding harmonics. I'm trying to work on doing double stops with them, where you strike two at the same "fret" and slide in different directions. 212 Sun, Sep 12, 10:17AM EST Skiball I did it to a 62 re issue Fender Jazz. ( dont panic the neck was f*#%$d to begin with) sounds very natural 213 Sun, Sep 12, 10:18AM EST Skiball You like M. Manring? 214 Sun, Sep 12, 10:19AM EST Andrew cool. I play a Yamaha BB350F fretless currently, I'd like to upgrade once I have the money after I'm done school. It sounds pretty good though, I have the action set up real high, getting really good tone. I discover new things with it every day. 215 Sun, Sep 12, 10:21AM EST Andrew Yeah, I like his stuff, I only have one album with him though - his solo "Thonk". I read in an interview he uses really lite strings and uses all these strange tunings. 216 Sun, Sep 12, 10:22AM EST Skiball Try a little reverb and chorus when you do solo stuff .Its real pretty 217 Sun, Sep 12, 10:23AM EST Andrew One of my amps has a built-in chorus channel, really adds to the fretless sound. I try to use it at a minimum though, because after a while I find it to much. Sounds good sparingly though. 218 Sun, Sep 12, 10:24AM EST Skiball Exactly 219 Sun, Sep 12, 10:25AM EST Skiball Who was that cat that played The Firm? He did some nice stuff 220 Sun, Sep 12, 10:26AM EST Andrew So what kind of music are you playing these days? 221 Sun, Sep 12, 10:27AM EST Andrew Hmmm, not sure 222 Sun, Sep 12, 10:29AM EST Skiball I just had an audition yesterday.FINALY GOT A GIG Y'ALL!! We'll do R&B/soul groove rock i.e. Steely,cocker,stevie,traffic...yada yada yada 223 Sun, Sep 12, 10:29AM EST Andrew Cool stuff, congrats! 224 Sun, Sep 12, 10:31AM EST Skiball Finaly found some pros! You shold see the gear! 225 Sun, Sep 12, 10:32AM EST Andrew how many pieces in the band? 226 Sun, Sep 12, 10:33AM EST Skiball Bas, drums ,g&#$@r,sax and keys. Makes it possible too do a lot of stuff. 227 Sun, Sep 12, 10:34AM EST Andrew sounds good. It's nice to be in band like that where the sound gets filled, but there's still enough room to do some cool stuff 228 Sun, Sep 12, 10:37AM EST Skiball Right on....Andy my eyeballs are floating so Im going to take off...EH? nice chat'n Ill see in in here soon Im sure 229 Sun, Sep 12, 10:38AM EST Andrew sure thing Skiball, thanks for the tips 230 Sun, Sep 12, 10:39AM EST Skiball good luck with it!! Peace Love and Jazz from Mickey lannd............. 231 Sun, Sep 12, 10:44AM EST big g GMorning Gang>Anon, yesterday I A/B ed the wireless and a cord. I did have to set the transmitter and receiver levels to approximately the same volume output as a cord. I really could not tell any difference up close to the amp. I've never heard myself 50 feet away before, so there was nothing to compare. Andrew>>some people glue in snug veneer strips to fill the frets. You will need a sanding block cut the same radius as your neck. Ski>congrats on finding a band. What is the lineup of musicians? 232 Sun, Sep 12, 11:23AM EST Hazzard Hey all 233 Sun, Sep 12, 12:12AM EST Mr. Bass Ski> Finding good people to make music with is almost as good as sex... well ...maybe I shouldn't go that far, but its pretty dang good.. LOL!..Wish you all the best. 234 Sun, Sep 12, 12:18AM EST Mr. Bass big g> I was amazed when I first tried my wireless for a sound check, what voulme I thought was to loud onstage was barely cutting it at the middle of the room! Also the way I set my parametric EQ was great for 10 feet but lacked response 30 ft out. Learned a lot experimenting with it,, have fun! 235 Sun, Sep 12, 12:37AM EST King BassBalls Played a "kook" gig last night. Ride '99 was the event. Lots of wealthy horse owners in this part of the country. Played one set (would have loved to have played longer). First time I played the Demeter at an outside gig. Very pleased with my sound. Very clean and even the lowest notes were crystal clear. Got fed and was paid very well. Ski>>>Good luck with your new band! 236 Sun, Sep 12, 12:42AM EST King BassBalls I believe the bassist for "The Firm" was Tony Franklin. 237 Sun, Sep 12, 12:43AM EST King BassBalls GO FALCONS!!!! 238 Sun, Sep 12, 2:17PM EST Azbug Andrew: Try setting your action as low as you can on your fretless. If your tone goes away then adjust your P/U height to compensate. I set my action just above the point where the strings start buzzing. It's a six-string, so with that much string tension it's a chore keeping it at that fine point, but it's worth it. It gives you more "Growl" and I find I don't need as much chorus, or 'verb to warm up the tone. SkiBall: Congrats on the gig! Glad you found something you'll like. Now you're back to getting your "Ya-Ya's" out again! Hey Mr.B! How ya' been? Haven't seen ya' 'round too much, lately. How's life on the Right Coast? 239 Sun, Sep 12, 2:52PM EST StingRay go check this guy out !!! he really plays some mean bass!!!!! button 240 Sun, Sep 12, 4:56PM EST Rbacker congrats on the gig skiball, best of luck to ya. 241 Sun, Sep 12, 4:57PM EST Rbacker gotta run, the wife has homework to do. Big G, I hope the wireless doesn't pick up the CDF traffic, must be a lot around your place lately. 242 Sun, Sep 12, 6:06PM EST Grump StingRay that's some nice playing. Ski.....congrats on the gig. Watching Farn Aid-Trisha Yearwood was on. Her Bassplayer(a lefty) was playing a 5 string Lakland and he had it strung upside down. That would confuse the hell out of me. 243 Sun, Sep 12, 7:09PM EST Skiball {and now for something completely different} GO BROWNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/ 244 Sun, Sep 12, 7:17PM EST Ernie Ball Big G- glad you checked out the new Shure Guitarist GT (uhf) with the marchad receiver-I had to be convinced myself-and I now look at guitar cables now like chains of bondage...the signal is better than most cables and you can get more physical with your instrument. But the greatest benefit is that I can walk away from the bandstand and hear the eq from the audience perspective- why eq for the lead quitar player-four feet away-when I can eq for audience-and improve on the overall mix? No more mud tones that sound ok around the players-but like fudge 3o feet away...Shure finally made a pro wirless for a decent price-and special thanks, to the new gear dept., of bass player mag-for the tip 245 Sun, Sep 12, 7:32PM EST Ernie Ball Lastly you can adjust the tone in your fingers-from the audience perspective-by adjusting your "touch"- you can now hear the difference of what that will effectively do-over say, an up-tempo number with the cymbals wailing and the harmonic overtones of the lead guitarist...have a nice Sunday, all- 246 Sun, Sep 12, 7:33PM EST Mr.Gone Can i get a price on a peavy 4x10 bass cabinet 247 Sun, Sep 12, 7:34PM EST Andrew Azbug> I'm a bit confused, how will lowering the action better my tone? 248 Sun, Sep 12, 8:24PM EST ojeb just bought Richard Bona's new solo CD,what a tasteful player!! 249 Sun, Sep 12, 8:34PM EST anonymous test 250 Sun, Sep 12, 8:50PM EST Mr. Bass Hi Az! Everythings great here (now) thanks for asking. I was messing with my computer one night deleting old files and I inadvertantly deleted something real important because I only got a black screen when I rebooted! Thats why I was MIA, good to be back. 251 Sun, Sep 12, 8:53PM EST Mr. Bass ojeb> I have read some great reviews on that CD, I am going to pick it up. 252 Sun, Sep 12, 10:23PM EST Rbacker just played with a couple of g*&^% players and a drum machine. Had a killer time, guys were real patient when I started looking for ways to spice things up a bit. They are very interested in G's jam and have a regular drummer. Guy has a recording studio in his living room. I am stoked. have a great one all. The practice is starting to pay off a little. 253 Sun, Sep 12, 10:40PM EST Rbacker Mr. Bass, welcome back!!! Missed your witty banter. TOP rules. 254 Sun, Sep 12, 11:07PM EST lowlifer We had a lefty bass player sit in with us recently that played a lefty Ricky strung upside down But he had learned on a righty turned around. 255 Sun, Sep 12, 11:28PM EST Skiball Oh well................. GO INDIANS!!!!!!!!!! 256 Sun, Sep 12, 11:30PM EST Andrew Go Leafs....er, well in a few weeks 257 Sun, Sep 12, 11:31PM EST Azbug Hey Guys...I remember BP ran a profile on the guy that plays for Trisha Yearwood a couple of years ago. I can't remember his name, but I remember the "Lefty-Upside-Down" thing. I also remember them saying he is completely self-taught and when he isn't touring he's a first-call session player in Nashville. Pretty da*n impressive to reach that level being self-taught. 258 Sun, Sep 12, 11:33PM EST Azbug ...Can't believe the Raiders blew a 10 point lead lead with 7 minutes left in the game!!! ARRRRRRRGH! It's been a LOOOOOONG dry spell for my boys. 259 Mon, Sep 13, 0:09AM EST anonymous Trisha's bassplayer is Keith Horne. 260 Mon, Sep 13, 0:55AM EST Mr. Bass Rb> Three reasons why I like jamming with a drum machine..#1 It never comes late or stoned to rehearsal...#2 Keeps real good time and the beat never fluctuates...#3 You dont have to hear rolls and paradiddles all through rehearsal..LOL!! Anonandthensome>..No offense! 261 Mon, Sep 13, 7:03AM EST Andrew #4 The drum machine provides more stimulating conversation 262 Mon, Sep 13, 9:28AM EST Big Bottom Greetings from nowhere, Gentlemen. Hope all is well in bass-land. 263 Mon, Sep 13, 10:33AM EST crimins Go Jags!! Sorry Big G, are you a Niners fan? 264 Mon, Sep 13, 11:44AM EST big g crimins>49er who??. Yep still a fan, but yesterday was brutal. Oh well if your going to lose you might as well lose big. The jags seem to have their number. Not sure, but I think they play again (revenge). 265 Mon, Sep 13, 12:32AM EST JP Coleman Looking for a little advice for a beginner... At the moment I'm looking at getting a Trace Elliot Boxer 30 and a Squier Precision or a P. Special. Can anyone point out any glaring stupidity in this? This is not something I know much about at all, so any help is appreciated. My price range won't go much above this, I mean I'd love to get a Musicman Stingray, but that ain't going to happen... Basically, is the price increase for the P. Special worth it for the jazz pickups and neck, and the apparent build improvements? (and the greater vareity of clours :) Scurrilous rumours would be as useful as actual experience ;0) Thanx 266 Mon, Sep 13, 1:11PM EST crimins Big G > I don't think they play again this year. 267 Mon, Sep 13, 4:41PM EST King BassBalls The new John Paul Jones album "Zooma" (I think its called) is supposed to be released today. 268 Mon, Sep 13, 6:23PM EST anonymous anyone here? 269 Mon, Sep 13, 6:25PM EST Mr. Bass A really cool CD I just picked up is Bassics Mags CD Sampler Vol.2, It has Alain Caron, Jimmy Haslip, Gary Willis, Brian Bromberg, Bunny Brunel, Manring, Wooten/Bailey, Patitucci and more..Its on the jazz side as you can probably tell from the aforementioned players, but if you haven't heard some of these guys its a great way to check them out without going broke. Every bassist is super on here. 270 Mon, Sep 13, 7:08PM EST big g It looks like another one of my e-bass brothers just scored a Sunn 350B, identical to my 2000s. If you ever have the chance to try one you will understand. 271 Mon, Sep 13, 7:42PM EST Skiball My Browns suck but I still love 'em. Its a tradition thing. Anybody ever see Jimmy Haslip from the Yellowjackets play? He plays a tobias strund righty played lefty........Probably old news for da regs eh? 272 Mon, Sep 13, 7:44PM EST lowlifer McD's having a special right now. Say you're a Steve Young fan and get a free turnover. 8>) 273 Mon, Sep 13, 7:48PM EST Skiball In other news a catagory 5 hurricane is on the way. This aint one to shrug off like the last one. Its big (3times bigger than Andrew) its bad and headed this way Chek out the weather channel.Its f-----g HUGE! Batton down the bass! All prayers are welcome. 274 Mon, Sep 13, 7:51PM EST Skiball Lowlifer>> Were sending Dentmer over to Cuba...... If anyone can overthrow Castro its him!! 8>) 275 Mon, Sep 13, 7:56PM EST Mr. Bass JP> I say if you can, save up for the MusicMan and use a friends bass in the meantime :) 276 Mon, Sep 13, 8:06PM EST lowlifer Skiball does it look like it'll go overland or turn? I've got family and friends in the Tampa/ St. Pete area. 277 Mon, Sep 13, 9:44PM EST anonandthensome Bass Playing today reminds me of gunslingers in the old west, its getting to be like LOOK how fast I can play , not HEAR how great this sounds, I dont know, am I all alone on this. 278 Mon, Sep 13, 9:47PM EST anonandthensome Mr.Bass> No offense taken, but...bass players are being sampled a lot these days too ya know!...hahaha! 279 Mon, Sep 13, 10:05PM EST Rbacker anonand.... I took the advice that has been in "bass Player" and on here and just played really simple stuff and tried not to screw up, sounded nice and let the g*&^% do their stuff. Drum machine was nice to play with though. When does basketball season start? You guys in Florida better put the floaties on, this sucker looks mean and there is another about a week behind it. 280 Mon, Sep 13, 10:40PM EST Skiball Rb>> Im shake'n like a dog s-----g peach pits and its not from the SWR!! 281 Mon, Sep 13, 10:44PM EST Skiball Lowlifer>> No tellin- Thats the fun with these things. 282 Tue, Sep 14, 1:07AM EST bassball howdy. anyone home? 283 Tue, Sep 14, 1:43AM EST base JP The extra cash for the Jazz pickup on the P-bass Special is worth it.It makes for a much more versatile instrument.I woulkd advise you to hold off on the amp until you have the bass though.Trace Elliott amps are first rate. I've owned 3 for ten years and had no problems with them.Try as many amps as possible though. It's important to match the amp to the bass.The best way is to find a store that will let you take them home and then A/B them or do it in the store. Before you do that you should make sure you have the bass set up the way you like it with strings you like. Strings make a big difference.Take your time and you'll save money in the long run . Hope this helps. 284 Tue, Sep 14, 3:57AM EST Stig JP ...I've had my Stingray for five years now, but i keep on returning to my '77 Jazz. Stingrays (with stock pu's) are rather trebly - fine for pop&slap...very eighties sound... but they don't have no (my kind of) "Voice". 285 Tue, Sep 14, 4:03AM EST Stig JP.. On the other hand. Stingrays ARE great...I would very much like to try out the Basslines replacement-pu's on mine. After all, we have spent som very great times together. 286 Tue, Sep 14, 4:09AM EST Stig JP....But of course its your choice... I've noticed that a lot of bassists are very positive about Carvins. Lots of love to all! 287 Tue, Sep 14, 5:20AM EST Pacman Stig>>>The basslines system is really nice. All you florida bassists (and south carolina, and north carolina)>>>>Hang on tight. If it gets bad, get into the closet or the bathtub (where I spent Hurricane Iniki). good luck and god bless. Love peace and BASS 288 Tue, Sep 14, 8:05AM EST Jim Jamb Floyd is on it's way!Anyone with a little common sense is packing up and heading for higher ground here along the Ga. coast.A mandatory evacuation has been issued for Chatham Co.12pm Tues.I'm not going to my Tues. jam session here in Savannah Ga.My wife,four cats,me & My Fender P bass/SWR are going to Lizella,Ga. To stay with Gary Mac(lead gtr.for the Chris Hicks band).Well if Floyd's high winds don't hit Macon Ga.my wife and I will at least get to sit in with the band.Chris Hicks is supposed to be here in Sav.this weekend.Dammn Murphys Law.I was here in Sav.When David made landfall back in 79 catagory 1 hurricane.Floyd will make David look like a walk in the park.Ya'll Take care,James. 289 Tue, Sep 14, 8:32AM EST GHOST Basses are like women, they come in all shapes and sizes, sometimes you luck out and hit it right on the mark, or you keep bouncing from one to the next,sometimes you search your whole life and will never find the exact match, so you settle for what you have and make the best of it. 290 Tue, Sep 14, 9:29AM EST Azbug Hang on tight down there fellas'! Stay safe and I'll be prayin' for ya'! 291 Tue, Sep 14, 1:10PM EST Bubba Hey bassfolk.....I have some great basses I want to sell, where is a good place on the net to list them? Thanx 292 Tue, Sep 14, 1:58PM EST e-bay? 293 Tue, Sep 14, 4:36PM EST King BassBalls Skiball>>Sounds like you better get out of town dude! 294 Tue, Sep 14, 4:54PM EST JP Coleman Base, thanx fo the advice. Mr Base, Stig, it'd take me about 3 years to save for the musicman ;) PLus this is a beginner's instrument I want, it'd be a bit stoopid to spend 1000+ and then not be able to play ;) Thanks all, I know what i want to do anyway and it's nice to hear agreement ;) later. 295 Tue, Sep 14, 4:55PM EST JP Coleman And watch your heads in the storm, y'all. makes me glad to live in Scotland, all we get here is 70mph winds ;) 296 Tue, Sep 14, 6:27PM EST crimins Thanks for all the concerns guys. Jacksonville has been shut down since noon. They say it's going to start hitting hard about 5 in the morning and continue for 12-14 hours. 100 mph at the beaches and 75 where I am (about 15 miles inland). All the bass babies are safe in the utility closet. We'll probably lose power tomorrow, so when we get it back, I'll get back online and fill you in. Lot's of people are heading north and west, and I-10 is jam packed, crawling at a snail's pace. We chose to stick it out. See you when it's over! Bye. 297 Tue, Sep 14, 6:29PM EST crimins By the way, all you prayin' guys, my daughter's in the hospital through all this hurricane stuff, so any talking to the Man upstairs would be appreciated. Thanks. 298 Tue, Sep 14, 7:48PM EST big willie I have a question. is anybody there 299 Tue, Sep 14, 7:55PM EST crimins Willie > what's the question? 300 Tue, Sep 14, 8:02PM EST crimins Oh well. I'm off. See you guys after the 'cane. 301 Tue, Sep 14, 8:37PM EST Mr. Bass I dont know why I take so much slack around here(CT)about my Carvin, I love it, it is the perfect fit for me, the neck radius fits me beautifully, I love the sound, the poplar doesnt break my back and the people at Carvin have always been knowledgeable and helpful whenever I called. If anyones looking for a second bass I highly recommend the Carvin. crimins> My prayers are with you. 302 Tue, Sep 14, 9:29PM EST aats JP> To tell you the truth if I was to do it all over again, I would buy the best bass or (drums) I could afford then buy the cheapest bass for my very first instrument, I could never understand this mode of thinking that," well I dont wanna go for much cash cuz I may not like it",, so what! Then sell it! But give yourself the shot, when you are first starting to play it makes sense if you have a better instrument you wont get discouraged as you could with a log and 4 cables. Just a thought. 303 Tue, Sep 14, 10:21PM EST then=than 304 Tue, Sep 14, 10:38PM EST big g Our thoughts an prayers are with everyone out there on the east coast. Aats>right now I can buy 3 or 4 pretty good basses in the $200 range. Perfect for beginners. Me scotch upbringing. JP>>are you goin for the P/J setup?. 305 Tue, Sep 14, 11:02PM EST anonymous Aats, I take your point, but I reckonthe biggest problem for me to learn won't be the axe, it'll be my basic lack of coordination. It took me 3 years to learn to do the vulcan hand sign ;) I do see your point, but for the moment I'd rather have a fairly cheap base that I can knock about, instead of a $1000 job which I'd have to shrink wrap and keep in a hermetically sealed case... Maybe in a year or so I'll take a step up. 306 Tue, Sep 14, 11:02PM EST JPColeman Oops, that last one was me... What an oaf. 307 Tue, Sep 14, 11:09PM EST JPColeman Big G, yeah, looks like I'll be going for the Squier hybrid. Short of spending a lot more, I don't think I'm really going to get better. I like the idea of the flexibility from the Jazz pickup, and from what i could tell the Special is a lot more solidly built than the Affinity. Just from 30 minutes in a local shop I could find defects in most of the Affinitys, which hardly fills me with confidence. If a no-nothing bozo like myself can find a problem, there's probably more there. I'm still wondering about the amp tho. i can't playtest a trace elliot here in Edinburgh, as there's no stockists. The hartke i've tried was a distinctly un-heavy sounding box, and the Park/Masrshalls seemed overpriced for what you get. Ah well, I'll get one problem down then worry bout the amp. 308 Tue, Sep 14, 11:19PM EST atts JP> I see where you are coming from..good luck!. big g> They got to be Ibanez or Cort for 200 bucks! 309 Tue, Sep 14, 11:22PM EST atts Trace is hit or miss it seems, I played with one guy that wont use anything else says they are the best, and played with another that wont ever touch one again said it kept blowing up, whats the story with that company? 310 Tue, Sep 14, 11:34PM EST base crimins-add me to the prayer list. JP now I see you are in Scotland I understand your predicament. We in the US have a much bigger choice for our money. Growing up in London my first bass , a Rossetti Lucky 7 cost me 20 pounds and took me a yaer to pay off in 1962. Couldn't even find a Fender in London then. I spent a few months making a new bridge for it. You have alot more going now. the best thing about starting on a cheaper instrument is learning to get agood sound out of it. I hear a lot of guys with expensive basses who don't have a sound.The basses you mention are a good choice. I would encourage you to try basses and amps out of your price range just to have a comparison.Good Luck. 311 Tue, Sep 14, 11:41PM EST base atts- I've had great luck with Trace myself but have also been using some GK over the last 3 years-wonderful sound and portability-sound totally different to Trace but I've had bad luck with reliability and getting them fixed- I"m interested in hearing of other players' experiences with GK. 312 Wed, Sep 15, 0:11AM EST big g aats>Yamaha, washburn, samick,fender Mexico........ 313 Wed, Sep 15, 0:45AM EST anonymousandthensome the cheapest Yam I ever seen was 349. .....Fender Squier 319. Washburn....349. Samick..Would you really? If you buy a bass for 200. bucks they give you a box of matches with it I hear.. hahaha! 314 Wed, Sep 15, 0:49AM EST anonymousandthensome Its all in the hands anyway..I heard Jaco on something that looked like a piece of driftwood with magnets and it still sounded like Jaco. 315 Wed, Sep 15, 3:38PM EST crimins Well, Floyd turned towards the north and pretty much left us alone here in Jax, Fla. I appreciate those who responded to my request. My daughter is being released from the hospital tomorrow. Type I diabetes sometimes causes her system to get out of whack, and when neglected, can be fatal. Thanks, everyone. 316 Wed, Sep 15, 4:32PM EST King BassBalls crimins>>I wish the best for your daughter. Looks like Floyd is heading my way. It's raining and the wind is really up. I'm over a 100 miles from the coast, so I'm not too worried. We got shelters set up at the schools and people are pouring in. Not a hotel room to be had. 317 Wed, Sep 15, 4:52PM EST bloke hiya 318 Wed, Sep 15, 8:43PM EST JP Coleman Crimins, sorry to hear about your daughter. i've been type 1 myself since I was seven... It does get easier with time and experience. As a kid it sucked, but i'm so used to it now that it doesn't affect me too much. Apart from having to explain to gig security why i have a bunch of syringes... I wish you both luck... 319 Wed, Sep 15, 8:46PM EST JP Coleman base, I like what you're saying. I can add that to the justifications along with "If I got a better base I'd jave to survive of beans for a month" 320 Wed, Sep 15, 8:51PM EST JP Coleman Atts, I've not heard much bad about Trace's build quality, except from a friend who gigs a Commando and gets overheat problems. He's done some work on it himself, so I don't know how far that's an amp problem and how far it's a cack-handed idiot wiring things up wrong problem. I found Boxer 60 to try out here, and they're nice, but still no Boxer 30s. Sigh. can anyone recommend or slander a Laney Hardcore 25? It's the second choice, but it means I can buy local instead of mail order, which I'm really not keen on. 321 Wed, Sep 15, 8:52PM EST Skiball Hey Floyd- Ya missed! Thanx for the prayers y'all! Big G>> Check out the Tobias standard in Ebay. Its a sweetheart! 322 Wed, Sep 15, 8:53PM EST JP Coleman Also, is it practical to play a bass through a guitar amp? I figure it's not going to be good for the amp in the long term, but my brother has an old Park 30 that he reckons I can use until I choose an amp. The chance of burning my house down seems a little too high... Again, thanks for any help. It's so cool not having to rely on braindead friends and cash-happy stores. 323 Wed, Sep 15, 8:55PM EST duckman donde puedo encontrar tablaturas y clases 324 Wed, Sep 15, 8:55PM EST Skiball 325 Wed, Sep 15, 8:56PM EST Skiball ?Hablas English 326 Wed, Sep 15, 9:20PM EST crimins JP Coleman & King BassBalls > thanks for your concern. 327 Wed, Sep 15, 10:50PM EST MissingtheOne Hello, I have been playing for a short time. But I noticed that my timing is off. What is the best way to achieve great time? Thanks in advanced 328 Wed, Sep 15, 10:51PM EST MissingtheOne whoops.. advance that is 329 Thu, Sep 16, 0:39AM EST Azbug JP: You can use your brothers amp with one exception: Your Bass will sound like....ummmm....Crap! The electronics and speaker (and speaker cabinet) are not set up for the Bass and will not perform well. You stand a chance of blowing it up if you push it. I owned a Trace Commando for practice and actually used it for a couple gigs. It has a decent DI out on it. You can run a cable from your DI out to the P.A. board and get a good tone with the help of your P.A. system. Be patient and save your pennies. You sound like you are really itchin' to play, so save up and get something you're gonna like and be able to use for awhile. 330 Thu, Sep 16, 0:58AM EST Hey all, was'up?Still alive and changing diapers.Got the first protot of the new bass,a fretless,and it's hot.Wish I had time to re-participate in this chat with my cyber-bass pals,butyou're always on my mind........... 331 Thu, Sep 16, 1:02AM EST anonymous Missing the one- Practising SLOWLY with a metronome and later with a drum machine and very gradually incresing the tempos over time is one way to help you acheive good time.Playing along with records or a drum machine is fun but the metronome is good for internal clock. You need this because if you get too used to playing along with records you 'll get a shock when you play along with musicians who have less than good time. Great time takes many lifetimes to acheive because it involves adapting to other people and the material but for us mortals internalizing the metronome is a good start. Remember- play SLOW. 332 Thu, Sep 16, 6:56AM EST Andrew Missing the one> If you get a rhythm book, and take time to figure out where the beats are and where the notes lie in relation, that should help too. The Louis Bellson book for exercises in 4/4 is a good one (I don't remember the exact title, but it's pretty much what I just said). Use the metronome a bit and then turn it off and try without it. 333 Thu, Sep 16, 7:00AM EST Andrew Actually, speaking of the metronome, did anyone ever catch Jeff Berlin's column a few years ago (or maybe just a few months ago, I can't believe my memory is going so soon in life) in Bass Player magazine where he basically ripped on the metronome saying it's a useless piece of garbage. Some of his points are valid, but I disagree with him about going completely without it. I believe a player should mix practise time with and without it, so a dependency doesn't grow too much. Comments? 334 Thu, Sep 16, 8:43AM EST crimins I have worked with a lot of musicians and drummers (hehe) in the past 30+ years and I've found that timing is basically something you're born with. Can you learn good timing? Probably through tons of practice. A metronome could help. But I've worked with several drummers who had trouble with finding One, especially when there is a pause in the music, but still counting the tempo. Whole note rests for example. Other musician's too, that have been playing for years and still don't have that internal clock working. But hey, keep working on it. 335 Thu, Sep 16, 10:14AM EST I am begining to think Jeff B. says the s**t he says just to make people think, who knows if he really believes some of those theories he throws around. 336 Thu, Sep 16, 11:23AM EST Fretless Monster hey anyone there? 337 Thu, Sep 16, 11:54AM EST anonymous Oh, I figured that much Azbug ;) It was just a thought. Thanks tho 338 Thu, Sep 16, 12:21AM EST fear and try taping that foot too , that allways helps ,,,Alot !! GLAD YOU ALL MISSED THE FLOYD AND ARE SAFE 339 Thu, Sep 16, 4:53PM EST Skiball Andrew>> Gee its not realy like Jeff to be opinionated. (sell that? that sarcasm) I read his colum in BP preaching the evils of cats that host clinics. Guess who did a sesries of clinics for Mas Music some time ago? 340 Thu, Sep 16, 6:19PM EST Rbacker glad the right coast crowd is doing well with all the excitement. Crimmins, glad your daughter is doing well. JP, I started out on a Rickenbacker (got it for free), I would recomend getting as much bass as you can afford, the easier it is to play, the more you'll want to play it. Jeff Berlin cracks me up. 341 Thu, Sep 16, 8:19PM EST jim Jamb You guys are the best...It's really neat to see all the post You pros dish out the honesty and genuine concern ya'll show for the music and life is Refeshing !No sarcasim here, don't read anything into this post! I for one have Finally found a collection of well versed and seasoned bassist to chat with . i'll be back home friday Live from Lizella Ga. it's James....anyone on? 342 Thu, Sep 16, 8:21PM EST Jim Jamb I'm running out of time on this P.C. so ...once agian gatta go 343 Thu, Sep 16, 8:25PM EST Jim Jamb P.S. sorry about the sytax on that last mile long post .But you guys can catch the gist of it .Peace,Love and HAPPYNESS! GOOD NIGHT.All.... 344 Thu, Sep 16, 8:48PM EST SOO E SOSS have anybody talk to big G? 345 Thu, Sep 16, 8:51PM EST JPColeman Rbacker, if you want to give me a bass that'd be nice ;) Realistically, I can't afford more than 300 ($450 or thereabouts) on the whole setup for now. I'd love to be able to spend more, but I've got to pay the rent etc. 346 Thu, Sep 16, 8:52PM EST SOO E SOSS What's up world this is Soo E Soss coming at you straight from the studio! Anybody know anything about the roland VS 1680 being able to hook up with the roland 505 groove box! (for all who don't know I am a Bass player of 20yrs running. 347 Thu, Sep 16, 8:54PM EST SOO E SOSS JP are you a play of the Bass? 348 Thu, Sep 16, 8:55PM EST SOO E SOSS spell check (player of the bass) 349 Thu, Sep 16, 8:56PM EST SOO E SOSS This must be shy town am out!!!! 350 Thu, Sep 16, 10:38PM EST Skiball JP>> I think Fender(Squire) has a bass and amp combo package for pretty cheap. Not bad quality for the price 351 Thu, Sep 16, 10:47PM EST Skiball Mr Bas>> Looks like Floyd's paying youz guyz a visit. He's a wuss! Me and my sweetie will be in Ct. this July. Somewhere outside Waterbury- (We've been warned).Still in planning stages. Peace, LOve and azzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 352 Thu, Sep 16, 11:40PM EST anonymous where can I find some online sheet music for the electric bass? 353 Fri, Sep 17, 1:44AM EST Andrew I just went to see TribalTech here in T.O., and man, all I have to say is Gary Willis makes me feel so bad about my own playing. 354 Fri, Sep 17, 3:07AM EST MidiMe Internal Metrone?: You either got it or you don't. Timing and unison can be taught and learned... For example: Look at a military parade - these are a bunch of people, some with no sense of timing at all, that are trained, to precission, to perform in unison. Question is, you may or may not have perfect timing, but do the people you are making music with have perfect timing? A band does not have the luxury of a condutor, as in an orchestra, to make sure the timing is kept. The best we can do is utilize eye contact to watch for cues from the other players in the band. This should develop the feel and tightness and GROOVE of a solid band. This means commuication is paramount. As a bassist the job is to bridge the rhythm of the drums and all the melodies and harmonies there above. In the practical sense; Learn the 'habits' of your band mates style...learn to anticipate what they may, or may not do. As far as learning how to develop perfect timing, well, like anything, it takes TIME to perfect. Practice Practice Practice! That sense of timing will develop. Once this begins, always be sure to give yourself a reasonable challenge. The rewards will be very satisfying! One more thing, the space around the notes is at least as important as the notes themselves! Have fun exploring the dynamics of bass!!! 355 Fri, Sep 17, 10:21AM EST big g SOO E SOOS>Long time no see buddy! What cha been up too?? One trick I've used to lock in with the drummer is to stand in front of his bass drum and slide my heel against the front rim. Even if its hard to hear him you can feel it. 356 Fri, Sep 17, 10:22AM EST Jim Jamb Anyone on line? 357 Fri, Sep 17, 10:25AM EST Jim Jamb I alwaya let the hihatalmost clip my coat tail on jazz gigs,Two &Four. big g how are you today/ 358 Fri, Sep 17, 10:27AM EST Jim Jamb I'll be glad when i get my on P.C. next two months i hope. 359 Fri, Sep 17, 10:29AM EST Jim Jamb Well Chris just showed up his band is getting ready to head for Savannah I'll be in Hilton head Isl. Sat.night 360 Fri, Sep 17, 12:18AM EST big g JJ If the guy Really knows how to play the hihat, I work off that too. I got spoiled. My drummer for 7 years was killer. Haven't found one better since (total animal). He played a real busy, jazz style, drums. Great with brushes too. I had to lock on the one. Playing with rock style or more straight ahead drummer, allows me to experiment. more. 361 Fri, Sep 17, 2:52PM EST crimins Rbacker > thanks. 362 Fri, Sep 17, 3:25PM EST Skiball, you mean the basspak? believe it or not, actually below what I'm after ;0) It's a standard affinity P bass and a teeny Fender amp. I agree it's good value tho, with all the extras. 363 Fri, Sep 17, 5:12PM EST JohnnieA Afternoon Bass brothers and sisters! Glad to hear the East coasters came out fairly well this week with respect to Floyd, and that your daughter is well crimins, my thought and prayers were with you A little SSS update for you all I'm building the last SSS four string and Ergo Bass at this time. The SSS G@#%tar is still under development but at a snails pace. R & D budget is pretty low at this time. The new linear motion device is complete and all parts are identified. The micro controller code alone is taking the most effort, although the self calibrate routine works well so hopefully I can get to the other routines with minimal difficulty (yeah right). Well thats it.. You all have a great weekend and best gigs too all. Peace 364 Fri, Sep 17, 5:34PM EST fear Guess everyones at , or headed to their gigs now, sigh.... guess I'll experment with some things. Crate b f x through the fx loop , bp 8 di,ed into amp head,. practice 15,s cabs in stereo . Try to find a beat on the 1300 keyboard that will fit. Lets see how real it gets. I,ll record it ,just for fun ! Slow country gives me a hard time, keeping time. We don't do a lot though,guess thats the fallacy of playing rock all the time,. Grate Gigs, every one,, " break a leg". 365 Fri, Sep 17, 5:42PM EST fear Hi Johnnie A I was typing when your post floated in , Sounds good!! What is your E add. befor sssbass. don't want to use our Store mail because every one will get it ... and their not bass players 366 Fri, Sep 17, 5:51PM EST JohnnieA Hey fear>>> email is sss_bass@hotmail.com I only check this address during the week, so Monday will be the next mail check. Have a good one. Later.............. 367 Fri, Sep 17, 7:40PM EST anonymousandthensome Well, one trick that worked for me and my bassist to improve his timing ,was I had him put his ear right on my bass drum for a whole song, he still cant hear in that one ear but he sure can feel the beat.. LMAO!! 368 Sat, Sep 18, 10:08AM EST crimins Thanks for your concern, Johnnie A. Much appreciated! 369 Sat, Sep 18, 4:11PM EST Ernie Ball McCartney and Carole Kaye-are religious foot tappers-I have noticed-and have great time...I used to notice on the early Beatle live footage-Paul, John and George's foot taps would all be in sync-and this was in '65 - with crappy monitors... 370 Sat, Sep 18, 4:14PM EST Ernie Ball and if you can't hear the bass drum-or the one and three-a quick thumb slap (muted) on 2 and 4-will find the tempo exactly with the drummer's snare-and One can be felt on the next beat... 371 Sat, Sep 18, 4:15PM EST Ernie Ball Have a nice week-end-everyone:::: 372 Sat, Sep 18, 4:45PM EST big g Ernie Ball>thanks for the wireless tip. I tried my new one at rehearsal last night. Throw away those tethers gang. SO much freedom. This is one of those deals when I said to myself "Why did I wait so long!" 373 Sat, Sep 18, 5:26PM EST lowlifer how much did it cost Big G? And what model did you get? 374 Sun, Sep 19, 0:00AM EST Funk Knutz Is there anybody out there? >J.P. Coleman- The Squier is a good choice if it feels and sounds good. The Laneys are somewhat of a boxy sounding amp which is a drag- because the old ones used to compete head to head w/HiWatt, Marshall, and Orange for that great tube sound that you could only get from "ACROSS THE POND." If you can get a good price on one w/a good warranty go for it. It's less boxy sounding than the little Fender, which obviously comes from a great bloodline itself. Again-if the axe feels good go for it. Hell my first bass was a pencil-necked Egmond. These were made in Holland and were really kinda cool, but definitely not a Fender. Vic Wootens first axe was a Univox copy of the Hofner beatle bass. Many of us started on Brand X basses that felt good, and sounded good. That is the key. If the neck fits your hand w/a special connection that the other basses just don't seem to have than go for it. It's that special connection which will keep you going, and make you want to play. Back in the late seventies and early eighties there were all kinds of pretty basses made from exotic woods. Those brands are long gone. Names and looks should be of little value in the equation. 375 Sun, Sep 19, 0:35AM EST Funk Knutz Occassionally it's nice to see a blank canvas here. Gives me a chance to say hello and to do some follow up. >Grump-How did those arthritis exercises do for you? I still use them religiously. >Crimins-Didn't get a chance to tell you I'd pray for your daughter. Prayed and put her in our local prayer circle. How is she? >Big G- Sounds like wireless is the bomb. Please fill us in on make-model,and price. >R Backer-Somebody gave you that bass?!!!!! -You dog you. >Stu-Thanks for writing. Look at the oppurtunity-with all those diapers your using there's got to be some sort of endorsement deal out there somewhere. >Fear-Keep practicing dude. Who knows, some Friday night down the road you could be giving some lonely beginner some good advice in between gigs. >Anonymousandthensome-Thanks for the humour. I'm loyal to my drummer, and wouldn't trade him for any damned beat box. >SoapBox- The metronome is a fabulous tool. In a recent conversation w/Chuck Rainey he said -"You gotta be able to play like you've got a rhythm machine where the sun don't shine." Always the polite one he quickly added that the last part of his statement was Lewd, but that it's often the only way he can get the point across to his students. So who do you believe,Berlin whose had ONE really good gig, or Rainey-whose played with everybody. Answer seemed simple enough to me. Just remember that it is a tool. 376 Sun, Sep 19, 1:00AM EST anonymous how do I place new strings on a up-right bass 377 Sun, Sep 19, 3:38AM EST lowlifer What a night. There were 4 people other than band members in the bar. Did one set and they said pack it in. Payed a reduced amount. We had to drive 40 miles for this gig. Wasn't worth it. I hate it when my time is wasted. Anonymous change them one at a time. And be careful that the "sound post doesn't move or fall down. 378 Sun, Sep 19, 4:25AM EST base Just home from the gig. 75 miles. Trio with a singer/guitarist.The drummer and I talked him into using a 30 watt amp miked through the PA to keep the volume down so then the fool cranks it through the monitors. The drummer and I put in earplugs after the first song. By the last set singer / guitarist asks us to play quieter because he's losing his voice. At least that's what we thought he said-we couldn't tell because we were wearing earplugs. I suggested that he asks the guitar player to turn down but he didn't hear me because he had his guitar cranked through the monitors. I'm spending my gig money on some custom earplugs next week if I'm going to continue to work with this fool. I'm told they make them for 15db or 25db cut. Anyone had experience with these? I've been playing 35 years and still have all my hearing and wish to keep it. Thanks Guys. 379 Sun, Sep 19, 10:43AM EST big g Shure True Diversity Guitarist is the make and model. Retails $370. Saw at one site on the net for $277. I ended up getting it for $277 + good ole ca tax. base>>tell the fool to TURN DOWN. If he's playin too loud for your tastes then hes too loud for the audience. Explain to him that he's going horse because he has to scream over the guitar! We all know that the volume thing for g*&^ar players is about ego anyway. Dynamics!!! 380 Sun, Sep 19, 1:25PM EST Thanks Frank, I tried one of the laneys but I was in a hurry so I couldn't really try playing with the settings. But the second opinion is appreciated. I'm going back to trying to get a Trace ordered in for me to try. 381 Sun, Sep 19, 1:52PM EST MadBassist Visit the Top 25 bass and guitar sites button 382 Sun, Sep 19, 2:54PM EST Funk Knutz >JP Coleman- As long as your going back, check out a Danelectro 70 and a Peavey Microbass. I played both before going w/the Peavey. Rare day when Peavey beats anybody. But that little Micro Bass was the best "practice amp" of them all. Blew smoke over all the others.I use mine daily-two years now, and no problems. Also got a great review in Bass Player Magazine.My experiences were similar to their test. Many amps. Best dollar for dollar value and sound came down to the Peavey. The Peavey won because its voicings are more varied than just sub woofer. I run every bass imaginable through it. Conklin 5-string. Fernandes souped up w/Seymours, and a Seymour preamp. Phantom-B souped up w/Schaller Humbuckers. You name it. Even my upright on occassion. The Dano didn't come out till afterwards, and I tried it. It's a great little amp too. The little Peavey still sounds a little more versatile though.IMHO 383 Sun, Sep 19, 3:06PM EST Grump Funk Knutz-the exercises help, but some days are better than others, friday I worked 8 hours than went to phyiscal therapy and then had a gig that night so when I woke up saturday I was a hurting little pup.....Base I use the 15db ear plugs I won't play without them. They might take a little time to get used to them, everything seems really quiet the first time you use them, but you hear everything. 384 Sun, Sep 19, 3:11PM EST Grump Pulled off a good one last night, the band does two Stray Cats songs. One of them starts with just guitar and the other starts with bass and drums. So the drummer counts off the song and I'm thinking why the he++ is he counting this off when the guitar player starts it. Of course when the drummer started to play I took it for granted I wasn't on the same wave length as everybody else. LOL 385 Sun, Sep 19, 3:38PM EST Rbacker Base, I use the earplugs I use at work, 25db cut, takes about twenty minutes and I seem to "adjust to having them in, takes the clang out of cymbals. I wear plugs 9-10hrs a day though. Make sure they are comfortable and you wear them right. 386 Sun, Sep 19, 3:39PM EST Rbacker Funk- bro got married and I got the bass. seems like a good trade for that quad toaster :-) 387 Sun, Sep 19, 4:25PM EST crimins Funk Knutz > thanks to you and you prayer group. She got out of the hospital Thursday morning. She is a type 1 diabetic and has just gone on an electronic pump for her insulin instead of injections twice a day. She got the thing messed up Sunday and wan't getting enough insulin, so she went into a condition called DKA, which means your blood sugar goes through the roof and your Ketone level goes dangerously high, causing extreme dehydration and the possiblility of kidney damage. This has happened to her before, and each time means a trip to the ER and at least an overnight stay until they get her stabilized. This trip lasted three days though, so they could keep an eye on her condition. She tries hard to do the right things, but sometimes things get out of whack very fast. All you guys who lifted her up, thanks again. YOu will be blessed, I'm sure. O.K., my next post will have some bass content - I promise. 388 Sun, Sep 19, 4:29PM EST crimins By the way, next Saturday night I'll be seeing the MAN himself, Rocco Prestia, at a concert at a music park near here. The lineup is TOP, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, and B.B. King. OUght to be a good show. A frind of mine is working on backstage passes, but even a cheap seat will be good. It'll be my first time for TOP. They don't come down here much (Fla.). I'll give a review after next Saturday. All you Florida residents who may be interested, it's at the Spirit of the Suwannee Park near Live Oak off I-75 just north of the I-10 intersection. 389 Sun, Sep 19, 4:31PM EST crimins I guess you Georgia guys can come down for the concert too. It's O.K. with us Fla guys. 390 Sun, Sep 19, 4:43PM EST crimins Jags just squeezed by the Pathers by 2 points. After last week's romp of SF, I kinda expected a better showing. My, I'm talkative today! 391 Sun, Sep 19, 4:43PM EST crimins That should be "Panthers". 392 Sun, Sep 19, 5:16PM EST King BassBalls crimins>>The Georgia guys can also see that show this Thursday in Augusta. I'm not really too familiar with TOP. I'm going to have to check them out. Heard many good things about Rocco. 393 Sun, Sep 19, 5:21PM EST crimins King Bass >Do it, man. He and David Garbaldi lay down the meanest groove. At least I hope David is still with them. He was the original drummer and was on their last CD. "Rhythm & Business". 394 Sun, Sep 19, 6:38PM EST Grump Crimins....I guess you and I have more in common than just playing bass. My 15 year old son is type 1 also we found out two years ago. His blood sugar was over 900 when I took him to the Dr. he didn't pass out or anything. dr.couldn't believe he was that high and walking. He does the shots twice a day and test four times. We have been lucky we just had the one trip to the hosiptal, he does a good job of control and takes care of himself. 395 Sun, Sep 19, 7:28PM EST Frank, the Danelectro's are amazingly hard to find in Scotland, apparently. I've tried the microbass, it was... i don't know, just didn't seem right. Perhaps it was a bad one, or perhaps it was just some inexplicable catlike sixth sense ;) It's without a doubt the best I tried when I was considering real cheapo amps, but The Boxer 30 seemed to offer more the sound I'm after (heavy...) I suppose it's asking a lot for an amp that size and power. It was my first choice until I found the cash to go up to the Boxer. Thanks tho 396 Sun, Sep 19, 7:31PM EST Crimins, I avoided the insulin pump myself, but then I also avoided the pen course. I've stuck to a twice a day course, since it seems to work. ketoacidosis is a killer though. Marginally better than hypoing out and falling in front of a car... Well, we all have our disasters. Has she tried penject or similiar? I understand it can give the best control if applied properly. 397 Sun, Sep 19, 7:33PM EST Promise I'll get back on topic ;) But grump, I guess you use a different glucose level score than the UK, here 37 is "imminent death!", so 900 would be a bowl of sugar with a small drop of blood. That's an evil time to be diagnosed, I was 7 and while it was bad at the time, I'm so used to it now that it's second nature. Back to the bass list ;) 398 Sun, Sep 19, 10:33PM EST base Thanks for info on earplugs Rbacker & Grump. Lowlife -I sympathise about your gig. We get paid for hauling our equipment- the playings for free. I figure you shouldn't have to play when you outnumber the audience unless they are really there to hear you otherwise you might as well join them. I've done duo gigs where we outnumbered the audience. 399 Sun, Sep 19, 10:59PM EST ojeb hope all is well with everyone,just a note to anyone in central florida,if you get to the animal kingdom at disney check out the bass player in the tarzan show(first guy I ever saw that could play teen town),no he doesn't play teen town in the tarzan show but has chops for days. 400 Mon, Sep 20, 0:29AM EST Funk Knutz JP COLEMAN- I hope that the Trace is good to you. In all honesty, I've had little experience with their gear. I'm an old run the early 70's Traynor Tube amp through the Mesa Boogie speakers kinda guy. Bagg Ends are good too. (Same specs as Mesa.) But I value my ears, my marriage, and my dog's ears as well (They both like to sleep by the speaker cabinets. My dogs that is-not my wife LOL) Therefor I was forced to buy a little "practice amp" for daily use. I'm sorry your Peavey turned out to be a dog. It's a shame because their product does seem rather inconsistant. I know people raving about that new Cirrus Bass, but speaking of dogs, I haven't played a good one yet. I also know people who swear buy the larger Peavey amps. I had good experiences with them in the mid seventies- but I've heard some real major box-tones hear lately. >Big G-Thanks for the tip on wireless. After the budget levels off- I may have to un-leash myself' >R Backer- I'm going to Best Buy and stock up on toasters. >Crimins-Your daughter will remain in our prayers. >Grump- I hope your at least semi-religious, because your tendonitis is hitting the prayer group as well. In the meantime-stick with those silly exercises. They sure can't hurt. >Lowlifer- Hang in there pal. At least you got to go home. Ever play to four people all night long? It-Ain't Fun. The next gig will be better. 401 Mon, Sep 20, 0:39AM EST Mr. Bass Did someone mention TOP? hehe... Crimins> Rocco pushes that band along, not like there are any slouches playing with him, but he fuels them, if he doesnt make you want to pick up your bass after that concert somethings wrong. Have fun! 402 Mon, Sep 20, 0:55AM EST Mr. Bass We were actually payed NOT to play once, going back a few years(like 20), we did one set, then we were approached by the manager and he told us, he told the agent he wanted a band that played only Country music. YES, Rush and ELP were a far cry from country, the manager thought our music was from another planet, he paid us and we went on our way. Even though we got paid it was a drag, because we really wanted to play. 403 Mon, Sep 20, 1:29AM EST Puya if anybody has any suggestions on some settings for an Ampeg SVT III i would like to hear from you...silascanoli@webtv.net 404 Mon, Sep 20, 1:31AM EST Puya one more thing where can one find some victor wooten or marcus miller tabs? 405 Mon, Sep 20, 9:33AM EST Dave Does anyone have any Bass Tab for Machine Head 406 Mon, Sep 20, 10:05AM EST crimins Thanks, guys. JP > she hasn't tried the pen thing. All this is per her doctor. She's 22 and we found out about it about 3 years ago. She's out on her own, and does very well except for an occasional slip-up like last week. 407 Mon, Sep 20, 12:19AM EST Want to make money just by surfing the web? Click here: button NO survey, NO cost NO catch 408 Mon, Sep 20, 12:22AM EST Someone turned off the "spam filter" please switch it back on. 409 Mon, Sep 20, 2:53PM EST Dave, the tab for Davidian is at button I have no idea how good it is, since I'm lacking a bass and an ability to play ;) 410 Mon, Sep 20, 6:08PM EST King BassBalls GO FALCONS! 411 Mon, Sep 20, 8:18PM EST Azbug How 'bout them Raiders?!?!? Does it look like we have a team again after all these years of misery??? Whoops! Wrong topic...sorry! :-) How about them Thomastik Spirocores??? 412 Mon, Sep 20, 8:26PM EST E265 Thanks Jaco for all your great music! God bless you 413 Mon, Sep 20, 8:27PM EST E265 21/9/99 414 Mon, Sep 20, 8:41PM EST anonymous where is the best place online to get bass equipment? 415 Mon, Sep 20, 9:08PM EST crimins Anon > try HarmonyCentral.com or BassGear.com for used stuff - tons of classifieds. 416 Mon, Sep 20, 9:27PM EST anonymous GO THOMASTIK SPIROCORES! ;) 417 Mon, Sep 20, 9:47PM EST Rbacker BOOMERS BOOMERS BOOMERS!!!! 418 Mon, Sep 20, 9:50PM EST Rbacker TOP is a lot of fun to watch. Saw them in Sactown at a great venue and had a super time. As it was a fathers day gift from the kids AKA wife is was even sweeter. Mr Bass has yet to steer me wrong. 419 Mon, Sep 20, 9:51PM EST Rbacker They were paired up with a local group playing the same style so I had my vaccination that night and then some. Big G, you see a show at the Radison yet? Great venue. 420 Mon, Sep 20, 9:53PM EST Rbacker MB, ELP, Yes and Rush would work in country, just play the pentatonic scale and let it rip, let er fly :) 421 Mon, Sep 20, 9:54PM EST Rbacker Having not seen any responses, Rbacker fades to black, night all and have a great week. Prayers to the easterners having to deal with the hog mess, 422 Mon, Sep 20, 11:10PM EST Skiball GOT MY MOJO WORKING!!! Saw the great Buddy Guy at Disney House of Blues last night! Awsome show! Dig the blues or not dont miss him if he's in town! Kinda disappointed Greg Zrab wasnt playing bass but the low ender he had still played a Lakland thru an SWR stack. Very sweet tone! Do not miss this show! 423 Mon, Sep 20, 11:14PM EST Skiball Oh yeah, Bud had a wireless and stood a foot (literaly!) from us shredding a polka dot strat with authority! ........Sorry Im just STOKED! Buddy da Man!!!!! 424 Tue, Sep 21, 3:31AM EST anpluck i just bought a pbc bass guitar from a pawn shop here in nashville. it's a beautiful bass and sounds good too! it's a 5-string, bolt-on, smith tuners and a smith headstock, emg pick-ups, active electronics and this awesome bridge with fine tuning knobs. can anyone out there give me some info about this bass? 425 Tue, Sep 21, 9:23AM EST big g Buddy is one of Eric Cs faves. You can tell. I'm not too in love with polka dots on anything though. 426 Tue, Sep 21, 10:29AM EST anybody home ? 427 Tue, Sep 21, 10:49AM EST If the joint is a rockin, don't bother knockin. 428 Tue, Sep 21, 12:08AM EST JohnnieA Someone is into SRV.... levite>>> what's the status of your AZ tour? 429 Tue, Sep 21, 4:11PM EST Desert Eagle what would be the best setup for a learner 430 Tue, Sep 21, 4:53PM EST fear HI D.E Were All learn'ers yep, when ya quit learn'in one of two things happen. 1, you die. 2, You quit..... A lot of factors play in ..First of all do you want to play just for fun , or do you want.to be a pro some day. Do you have anyone to jam with. DO you finish what you start. answer that one honestly to your self.These questions will save you money. If you want to spend the bucks try out Name brands Carvin, Idanez,Fender, Ampeg, SWR, Trace E.Ect. Only you will be abel to find the one that fits you. TRY as many as you can!!!! Then make your choise from that. As a rule get a good bass First then get a "big" amp later. hope this helps 431 Tue, Sep 21, 5:16PM EST fear It's like buying shoes , You'll feel it when it" fits" and that will make ALL the differance in the world!!! 432 Tue, Sep 21, 5:32PM EST fear But the gear don't make the player... its your drive, motovation and passion that will make it all work... and like I stated befor,, you NEVER QUIT LEARNING!! 433 Wed, Sep 22, 0:34AM EST Rbacker fear, well spoken, er written. 434 Wed, Sep 22, 6:51AM EST anonymous 435 Wed, Sep 22, 10:15AM EST fear Rbacker... thanks ! I talked to Johnnie A about sss . Did you gig with it ? He has my e mail add, I might buy a 4 stringer ! I wsa ststioned at Moffett field from 77 to79.... later 436 Wed, Sep 22, 10:17AM EST fear ....... stationed...... ooops 437 Wed, Sep 22, 10:17AM EST fear .....was.. stationed...... ooops 438 Wed, Sep 22, 2:00PM EST JohnnieA fear>>> I did reply to your e-mail. Did you receive? 439 Wed, Sep 22, 2:46PM EST anonymousandthensome Lousy day in upstate NY, rain, rain, rain...Good day for maybe staying inside and writing a song though. What's better than buying a brand new bass? Buying brand new drums..haha! Have a good one bass players! 440 Wed, Sep 22, 2:54PM EST anonymous hiiiiiiiii------------- 441 Wed, Sep 22, 3:06PM EST fear Johnnie A yes, price range is ok! I will be attending school in Rio Rancho N M in november for two days, thats about as close to A Z as I'm going to get this year. 442 Wed, Sep 22, 3:42PM EST fearl Finaly,,, got a cup of coffee. Can type better now., 443 Wed, Sep 22, 4:18PM EST better drink another 444 Wed, Sep 22, 5:26PM EST fear yep! 445 Wed, Sep 22, 8:04PM EST Mr. Bass Here is the official TOP site, for Rocco fans. button 446 Wed, Sep 22, 8:51PM EST Rbacker sitting here watching "work in Progress" by Neil Peart and really wishing someone would do a bass version of this, what a great format. Guy is just fun to watch work. Hope everybodies weak is going well. 447 Wed, Sep 22, 8:52PM EST Rbacker fear, if you were asking if I've played the SSS, I only wish, sounds like a super rig but I don't get out much. Best regard's to Johnnie A though. 448 Thu, Sep 23, 0:24AM EST Funk Knutz Hey-Don't laugh I got a new P-Bass w/humbuckers!!!!????? Actually it's an old Hofner 3/4 scale bass w/a very thin P-shaped body. The neck is a short skinny pencil, and the pickups absolutely wail. If someone tries to convince you of the wonders of "Those New Rail Type Pickups" tell 'em you know about a guy whose got some built in 1967. Funnier still....each pickup has it's own volume knob for blending. The coolest sounds come from the cheeziest part. There are three flip switches on the control panel labeled Treble, Bass, and Solo. They must use some sort of filter set up which sounds good... but oh those cheezy switches. "Viva La Pawnshop!!!!!" 449 Thu, Sep 23, 0:32AM EST Funk Knutz Anyone else out there doing the two or three band deal because of the shortage of bass players. Sometimes it's sweet, but I guess I'll need a new rule on top of no drugs, no attitude---How about No phones. Everyone should be required to go online. It's so much more efficient than "Ye Olde Phone Tag." I'd trade all three bands for just one that would play a mix of all three lists and gig steadily though. A house band gig in the hand is worth three bands in the bush. 450 Thu, Sep 23, 0:56AM EST Azbug Hey! I've played the SSS and the Ergo and they are both pro quality instruments that would fit rather nicely in the collection! The Ergo is WAAAAY cool! I played an 8-string Kramer down at the Bass Place yesterday. Pretty cool. Kinda mid'y sounding, though. I was playing it through an SWR so that didn't help. Didn't EVEN recognize the PU set-up. Looked like an aftermarket custom job. Dennis told me they sold 15-20 Basses on E-Bay this past Summer. If anybody sees a Bass of theirs on E-Bay and want me to check it out, just lemme know on this here chat. It's an easy drive for me to get down there. 451 Thu, Sep 23, 0:59AM EST Thumpin Funk Knutz: I agree about the house band advantage but I enjoyed it up to a point. It got to be predictable and repititious (same kind of crowds and scene)after three years. Then again I play for the music and country (and a lot of the newer country) has its limitations for bass players! 452 Thu, Sep 23, 11:08AM EST anonymous hey anyone any good jazz bass player info 453 Thu, Sep 23, 12:18AM EST JohnnieA Appreciate the kind words for the SSS/Ergo. Thanks guys 454 Thu, Sep 23, 12:49AM EST Mr. Bass crimins> How was the concert?..Funk K> I was in a house band for about a year, it was cool at first but then started to get predictable, I felt like I was playing at Cheers but without the humour. But I guess it's what you make it. Great experience though. 455 Thu, Sep 23, 12:50AM EST big g I got to play the SSS 1. Its real hard to convey the amount of difference in the tonality with just a slight movement of the pu. Incredible amount of versatility at the touch of your pinkie. Johnnie has offered this to some pretty big companies and none of them have the vision to see what a great idea it is. I thought bass luthiers were more experimental than the g^&*ar guys?? 456 Thu, Sep 23, 12:53AM EST big g Hey mr.bass 457 Thu, Sep 23, 1:37PM EST crimins Mr. Bass > TOP concert is this Saturday night. I'll let you know Sunday or Monday. 458 Thu, Sep 23, 4:26PM EST King BassBalls TOP is tonight in Augusta Ga. I believe I have pretty good seats. Looking forward to it. 459 Thu, Sep 23, 4:54PM EST Mr. Bass big g> I agree, I think Johnnies bass design is ahead of its time. Rb> Neils video was great! For him to reinvent his method of playing at this stage of the game shows he is always looking for new challenges. I would like to see a Bass version of it also. 460 Thu, Sep 23, 4:58PM EST Mr. Bass KBB> Don't get to close to Roccos rig, I heard that it can singe hair! hehehe 461 Thu, Sep 23, 5:57PM EST Mr. Bass Az> Is that 8 string the same bass Doug Pinnick plays? That has an incredibly full sound. My old Hagstrom eight is like a toy compared to it. 462 Thu, Sep 23, 6:14PM EST anonymous button 463 Thu, Sep 23, 6:16PM EST Mr. Bass I posted about Ray Riendeau before, I think I finally got the button to work... button 464 Thu, Sep 23, 6:17PM EST Mr. Bass Check out the samples right at the page Mal- Funk- Shen is good 465 Thu, Sep 23, 9:53PM EST Missing The One Has anyone tried the Cyclops Combo from Carvin, and if so would you recommend it? 466 Fri, Sep 24, 3:02AM EST Stig Rail-pick-ups? hm...I may be wrong, but wasn't one of the very first Alembics equipped with a kind of rail pick-ups? Hmmmm...see if i can remeber this..What do you call a military officer run over by a steamroller? A flat major! 467 Fri, Sep 24, 3:09AM EST Stig Oh Sweet word-blindness! I meant:remember! 468 Fri, Sep 24, 9:13AM EST Azbug Mr.Bass: Not sure about that one. Didn't he also play the Hamer 8 & 12 string? I saw them here, years ago and he played the Hamer 12 for the whole show. Ray is a killer player. He's got some SERIOUS tricks up his sleeve when it comes to slapping. He lives here in Phoenix. I used to see him quite a bit hangin' out at the Bass Place. He ran a clinic there a couple months ago. I missed it but heard it was great. 469 Fri, Sep 24, 11:40AM EST JohnnieA Hey guys. I need your help. I've been thinking about ways to "get the word out" on the SSS and Ergo basses over the past several months, and have tried just about everything. Taking the basses to venues on weekends, getting players to test and evaluate the basses, a web site, e-mail, trying to get pro players to check them out when they are in town etc etc. I didn't want to ask this, but at this point quite frankly, I'm desperate. I'm thinking that if you guys could drop questions about the SSS and Ergo throughout the many forums here on the web it may generate some interest to visit the SSS web site and possibly spark some interest from folks in the business that can help me get this thing noticed. Normally, I wouldn't use this chat as a launch pad for what some folks call spam, but I'm willing to give it a shot if you are. If you think this is a bad idea than by all means let me know at sss_bass@hotmail.com. Thanks in advance for any help. Have a great weekend! Later 470 Fri, Sep 24, 1:59PM EST anonymous hey you know what...I'm not sure how I got here but this place isn't that bad. 471 Fri, Sep 24, 4:49PM EST Jim Jamb Hello fellow bassist, Well floyd missed us here in savannah ga. ,thank God. We are past due for a direct hit. i'll check in with yall later.anonymous>>> Yes this is a good site some real honest players,not to mention humorous.(Excite.com/then search for bass frontiers/chat link.That's how I found it.) later......... 472 Fri, Sep 24, 5:46PM EST test 473 Fri, Sep 24, 6:25PM EST Mr. Bass Az> You are right, it was the Hamer I was thinking of. Thanks 474 Fri, Sep 24, 7:11PM EST anonymous IJUST bought a bass and amp & i want to play as soon as possible im reading 2 books and im open to sugg,s 475 Fri, Sep 24, 7:11PM EST anonymous Johnnie A- Your going to have to get all your patents,rights and royalties in a row, and then pick out about a half dozen approachable top-notch players, i.e. Wooten, Rainey, Rocco, calibre and give away about a half dozen of those pups. Just make sure they're folks who are not already endorsing someone else under contract. Rocco, for instance has a new Fender signature model, so that's out. Vic plays all different kinda basses, so at least you know he's open to the concept. Go to the old Dean guitar site. Dean had to give away a few himself........... 476 Fri, Sep 24, 8:22PM EST anonymous2 I'll take one! 477 Fri, Sep 24, 8:38PM EST fred does anybody know what has happened to DAVID FRIESEN or his guitar player JOHN STOWELL? 478 Fri, Sep 24, 8:40PM EST fred does anybody know what has happened to DAVID FRIESEN or his guitar player JOHN STOWELL? 479 Fri, Sep 24, 10:19PM EST base Johnnie A -you have my curiosity- what is the URL for the SSS website? 480 Fri, Sep 24, 10:26PM EST Rbacker Johnnie A, wish I could be of help. 481 Fri, Sep 24, 10:47PM EST Rbacker Now getting requests to jam with a few more people. Pretty stoked about that. Now about that fretless....... 482 Fri, Sep 24, 11:01PM EST 483 Fri, Sep 24, 11:09PM EST anonymous I need to know how to tune a bass 484 Fri, Sep 24, 11:10PM EST anonymous mike8208 on aol or aim , please let me know 485 Sat, Sep 25, 6:47AM EST Grump I pick up my fretless from the shop today. Had the fret-board coated with tung oil and a set of DR's put on. Can't wait. It's Harley week here in York. The Harley plant has it's open house this weekend. It's pretty cool they shut the city down last night and had a big parade and about 5 or 6 bands through out downtown area. The morning paper says there are about 10,000 bikers in town this weekend, and everybody loves them and their money. Bought Vertu last night and just started listening to it first song sounds like RTF. 486 Sat, Sep 25, 12:45AM EST Azbug Rb: You GO Brother! 487 Sat, Sep 25, 12:57AM EST big g Grump>>sumptin similiar going on in Reno Nev. Harleys have been heading up Hwy 88 since wednesday. Going down to hear the Brew and Blues festival today. The two seem to go together. Got a slider strap today. Definately, easier on my bad shoulder. 488 Sat, Sep 25, 8:17PM EST Mr. Bass They have a Harley dealer right next to the thruway here, they always have a beautiful bike in a display window thats elevated even with your car window, I think its caused a few fender benders, hehehe. 489 Sun, Sep 26, 0:12AM EST Rbacker Neal peart was mentioned on "freaks and geeks", what a riot. Took me back to high school big time. Hope everybody is having a great weekend. 490 Sun, Sep 26, 5:40AM EST Detritus Does any1 have the tab 4 'Lakini's Juice' by Live 491 Sun, Sep 26, 6:10AM EST lowlifer Man am I tired. Worked 13+ hours on Friday then giged friday night, saturday morning, and saturday night. Got about 4 hrs sleep since friday morning. Night all as the Eagles song said " Call a Doctor I think I'm gonna crash". 492 Sun, Sep 26, 12:38AM EST Mr. Bass lowlifer> I know how you feel, I was doing almost exactly similiar time schedule, used to work 11 hour day, then play fri nite, and double header Sat. day wedding, Sat. nite club. Sunday was left to try and regroup, felt like a zombie all day. Those gigs are now left to younger men :) Rb> Neils song Subdivisions addresses those labels, "Conform or be cast out". 493 Sun, Sep 26, 3:49PM EST arvdaug hey bass players of america 494 Sun, Sep 26, 3:50PM EST arvdaug can anyone tell me where I can get a bass teaching program? 495 Sun, Sep 26, 6:27PM EST jim Jamb lowlifer/Mr.bass>>>Reading Yalls' last post takes the edge off of this past week 5/10's+(dayjob,make-up time for hurician Floyd)4 10pm-2am gigs not Too BaD?:^^^^&$#%%! I'm Not 25Yrs Old Anymore THAT Took all I had Maybe16.85Hrs of True sleep,W/no Hard Drugs.Thank God! 496 Sun, Sep 26, 6:53PM EST Jim Jamb anyone on line? 497 Sun, Sep 26, 7:07PM EST Jim Jamb What's realy bad is that here in Savannah We are finishing up a jazz fest And I Haven't been able to go to the first jam session ,not a one! not to mention the Free live shows all over the city. 498 Sun, Sep 26, 7:12PM EST Jim Jamb Anyone Want to chat with a tired Bass player?!?........basballs'Mr.Bass,azbug,lowlifer,ANYONE?.,..... 499 Sun, Sep 26, 9:15PM EST jazzbass67 hi--anybody there? 500 Sun, Sep 26, 9:17PM EST jazzbass67 hey---anyone wanna talk bass, you can leave a message at jazzbass67@mailcity.com. My name is Rich 501 Sun, Sep 26, 10:25PM EST Rbacker Lowlifer, take it easy bud, gotta keep the rubber side down on the TFH. MB, well said. "freaks" was sad in spots but definately takes me back. 502 Sun, Sep 26, 10:26PM EST Rbacker Finally feeling good enough to play again. Everybody out here is sick with something. Boss had Bronchaitis, another had walking pneumonia, I had a sinus infection. Bunch of Typhoid Harry's around here. Back to the bass now that I can hear again. 503 Sun, Sep 26, 10:28PM EST Rbacker Rickenbacker, Bass of champions. (flame on) 504 Mon, Sep 27, 0:05AM EST Mr. Bass Hi Jim Jamb, sorry I missed ya, whats the music scene like in Savannah? I'm up in CT, 1 1/2 hours from NYC. big g> Whats a slider strap? 505 Mon, Sep 27, 0:13AM EST button What are these? 506 Mon, Sep 27, 0:16AM EST That link was supposed to be of three non descript basses, foiled again! 507 Mon, Sep 27, 9:36AM EST big g Mr Bass>Slider strap is 2 straps hooked together sorta, one goes over each shoulder to balance the bass weight evenly. 508 Mon, Sep 27, 11:34AM EST crimins Rbacker > maybe that guy with walking pneumonia needs a shot of rhythm & blues. Sorry, couldn't resist. Speaking of R&B - saw TOP Saturday night. To quote Randy Savage - "OOOOOH YEAH!" Absoutely great! The only downside was that since they were the 2nd band on a 4 band bill they only played about 50 minutes. Didn't do "Bump City" or "You're Still a Young Man". They did "What IS Hip" though and got the crowd going on that. They had Rocco jacked way up in the mix - loved every 16th note. David Garibaldi was super. I just wish they would come down this way (FL) on their own tour, but htey don't seem to be as well known down here as they are out west. Check 'em out guys if they come near you. You won't be sorry. Oh yeah, B.B> King was great too. 509 Mon, Sep 27, 2:32PM EST 1bassdude What did you guys think about the bassist for Tower of Power? That seems like some pretty complex stuff... By the way...what do you guys think for a 2nd cabinet (already have 2x10), another 2x10, 4x10 or a 1x15. Playing a 4-string axe with different styles of music. 510 Mon, Sep 27, 4:39PM EST King BassBalls The bassist and drummer for TOP were very tight. Looks like Rocco's right hand gets more of a workout than his left. He can thump the sh#% out of his P-bass! I enjoyed the show very much. I must get a copy of "What Is Hip". 511 Mon, Sep 27, 4:43PM EST King BassBalls I would add the 1x15. 512 Mon, Sep 27, 4:44PM EST Skiball Sup Y'all! Had the first gig over the weekend. Two sets at private party. $100 cash. After only 2 jamhearsals. On the way home the ol'lady sys "youre back babe!" I said naw, my back feels fine. "NO youre BACK -youre BACK!" Dats right ! Im back! Feels good! ...Now Im realizing the drawbacks of a 3rd story apartment.(My back....my back):) 513 Mon, Sep 27, 4:46PM EST Skiball Must agree with KBB.........1-15 sounds good to me 514 Mon, Sep 27, 4:58PM EST King BassBalls Skiball>>Good luck with your new band! 515 Mon, Sep 27, 5:09PM EST fear Ugh... I did it .... I bought a Carvin... nailbiting for the next six weeks 516 Mon, Sep 27, 5:23PM EST fear Johnnie A Have you thought much about putting the sss system in "KIT Form"? IF it was that way I would snap it up Quick! 517 Mon, Sep 27, 6:22PM EST JohnnieA Thanks for the comments! Victor has played the SSS and liked it. fear>>> A kit is not pratical since there is so much modification to the body required. Later......... 518 Mon, Sep 27, 6:29PM EST JohnnieA Gee... what's the deal with TBL today....... 519 Mon, Sep 27, 8:02PM EST anonymous I was given a Ibanez SR400rb bass guitar is this bass any good should I waste my time learning to play on it,need to change strings what size should i put on it 520 Mon, Sep 27, 8:38PM EST Mike Does anyone have the transcription to the bass solo in Phish's "Poor Heart"? 521 Mon, Sep 27, 9:36PM EST Rbacker Glad I live in the fire zone, TOP gigs around the area a lot. Being close to Oakland does have an occasional benefit. 522 Mon, Sep 27, 10:18PM EST crimins Speaking of TOP, has anyone checked out Doc Kupka's "Strokeland Superband" CD. I haven't heard it yet, but Rocco, David G., Lenny Pickett, and a lot of TOP current and former members play on it. You can order it direct at www.strokeland.com. 523 Mon, Sep 27, 10:22PM EST crimins KBB > What is Hip is on their early "Tower of Power" album from the early '70s. Also on their first live album "Live & In Color" (I think that's the title), and also on their just released live album "Soul With a Capital S". The studio version on the first album is somewhat slower than the version they play live. 524 Mon, Sep 27, 10:27PM EST crimins Correction > their recent live CD is called "Soul Vaccination". First live album is "Live and In Living Color". If you're into 16th notes on the bass, also check out "Oakland Stroke" on their "Back to Oakland" album. That one also has their classic "Squib Cakes". 525 Mon, Sep 27, 10:29PM EST 1bassdude Hey guys, thanks for the suggestions on the 2nd cab. You're right about that right hand...it was a blur. See ya...Oh, congrats on the gig skiball! 526 Mon, Sep 27, 10:39PM EST TO THE BAAASSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 527 Mon, Sep 27, 10:59PM EST Skiball I know I should have payed attention a few weeks ago but whats the story on the Conklins? Just got Musicians Freind and saw a 5 for $750, Sup widdat? Any suggestions on a low-buget 5? + or - frets. I give up on the Fender MB5. NOBODY can tell me ever existed. 528 Mon, Sep 27, 11:23PM EST lowlifer 1bassdude a 1x15 is ok but I like my BagEnd 1x18" even better. Ask Big G it sounds killer!! 529 Tue, Sep 28, 12:23AM EST big g Ski>Cort\Curbow is pretty reasonable, if you can put up with a synthetic body. Seems to be getting some good reviews. 1bassdude>>I like both 15s and 18s. Heard Mick Martin and the Blues Rockers this weekend and their bassist played a Jazz bass thru a Peavey head using a 2-10 and a Peavey 18", had no probs hearing the bottom clearly. By the way he played with a pick only. Sure didn't sound like it. He and the drummer definately held that band together. My biggest complaint was the leader, Mick, sat on his BFA both sets. The only song he stood up for was 1 he wrote (so you see, he can stand up!). Probably his harmonicas were too heavy. Enjoyed the ridim section anyway. 530 Tue, Sep 28, 1:47PM EST fear big g.. how's is it going? what do you think about the HB active/passive set up on the Carvin ? 531 Tue, Sep 28, 4:25PM EST King BassBalls crimins>>Thanks for the "Hip" info. 532 Tue, Sep 28, 5:24PM EST fear Well... I'm going to do it! ...BI amp the svt4 with the spekton cable, Why don't they give you one with the amp when you buy it? Break out the wireless, take the "monster" outside on the patio,hook it up, turn it up,and ........get arrested!!!??? 533 Tue, Sep 28, 7:26PM EST big g fear>if you mean the new pu system with the MM style pu, I haven't had a chance to try or hear them yet. I did change out my original circuit board to the active passive system they are using now and its much better. The main change was the voicing of the mids. The old system was mid boost only and it sucked. The new board, the mid is sonically more usable and is cut and boost. But this is kinda secondary because I really like the sound of my bass passive (which wasn't possible before) and dont use the active circuit that much anymore. It does come in handy at times. 534 Wed, Sep 29, 10:03AM EST fear Yep I got the MM and new active/passive, LB 70. Did you get the std, neck or the 5 pcs. lam. neck? 535 Wed, Sep 29, 11:43AM EST fear I got a call last night from a church,they need a bass player,not to give up on the band though! I havent done much praise & worship music , any one have any input on this style of playing or currently in such? 536 Wed, Sep 29, 12:23AM EST big g We back. fear>I have the one piece maple, and it has its drawbacks. Truss rod must be adjusted twice a year. On the two basses I own with laminated necks (Gibson,Cort), I have never touched the truss rod, one 30 years, one 16 years. The carvin neck is a little thinner profile though. My personal experience would lead me to think that the laminated neck would be a little less tempermental about humidity and temp changes. 537 Wed, Sep 29, 12:44AM EST fear Yea kinda though that. THEIR PUTTIN ON THE 5 PCS. praise& worship? 538 Wed, Sep 29, 11:43PM EST Azbug fear: Praise & Worship: Think FAT. Stay close to the roots. If there is an experienced pianist/keyboardist, listen to what he/she is doing with his/her left hand and stay close. 539 Thu, Sep 30, 11:26AM EST FEAR THANKS Azbug, This is going to be an outreach program from our church to surronding churches in the area. Their PA,s might be a problem,like not have one!I'm almost certain I will have to play direct from my amp, no mic. No worries, the ampeg svt 4 will conquer all 540 Thu, Sep 30, 11:42AM EST FEAR Our first "sit down" will be tonight. New people, new music , new jitters. I'm taken the G K 100 w And the 15 in cab to this one, 541 Thu, Sep 30, 7:02PM EST crimins Fear > I've done praise & worship for the last 5 years. What goes depends on the type mujsic you are doing. If it's a mainstream denomination, expect hymns, tunes with more of a "pop" feel, ballad style, maybe heavy keyboards. If you're in a full gospel, charismatic type church, things may take on a more R&B flavor, more funk. I attend a Vineyard church and the Vineyard style we do is more guitar oriented both electric and acoustic. Remeber, the worship leader, if he/she is doing their job properly, is the boss. They should, however, be open to other opinions, but what they finally decide goes. Remember why you are there - not for show, but for praise & worship. Hope this helps. 542 Thu, Sep 30, 8:07PM EST Rbacker keep it low and sweet. IMHO. Played again last night and made a tape. The tape deck was overdriven a little so I'm bummed. Can hear myself though. Having a great time. Off to soccer practice, good evening to all. 543 Fri, Oct 1, 10:49AM EST TGIF 544 Fri, Oct 1, 3:49PM EST fear Thanks crimins, Were doin "over and over"," rock of ages"( not the old gospel stuff ,Up beat,, realy good tunes. some tricky progressions. I'll adapt. Over and over kinda reminds me of Rush Saterday the 9 th we go live..better quit typing and get plucking,, T G I F E-one! 545 Fri, Oct 1, 8:08PM EST Rbacker Fear, best of luck to you. 546 Fri, Oct 1, 8:09PM EST Rbacker Lowlifer, see you sat. in the early afternoon. 547 Fri, Oct 1, 8:16PM EST Rbacker Big G, Hope you are not suffering this smoke, it is thick in the valley. Hope everyone has a good weekend. Going to play with a drummer in the morning. 548 Sat, Oct 2, 10:38AM EST levite 1-3-4-flat7-5-1 Hey fear....p/w music usually is very loaded with chord progressions... ours is very R/B or heavy funk...but were kinds an exception...we ever have some that is very ZZtop or AC/DC style....as for bass lines...do it like you do anything else....hook up with the kick drum...and have fun...youll like the response...and noone will ask to sit in a tune or two...or spill beer on your svt keep us posted.... 549 Sat, Oct 2, 12:12AM EST big g RB>the skyline has nasty red tint to it thanks to the tire fire burning out of control for over a week. Where are the enviromentalists when you need them?? Gross polution!! About to enter the new millineum and they still haven't figured out how to put out a tire fire. Cough, hack, wheeze.... 550 Sat, Oct 2, 12:42AM EST crimins Fear > sounds like you're doing some of the stuff we do. Been doing "Over & Over" for years. 551 Sat, Oct 2, 1:22PM EST 1bassdude fear, p&w is all I have been doing (band wise) for the last several years. We do some alot of the stuff already mentioned. The message here: be flexible. We've had the lead acoustic (church pastor) make key changes on us at the last minute (once because he forgot to remove his capo!). Yea, transposition on the run. Stay close to the roots, and through in some nice fills. We almost go improv. every week, but use the chords as ref. Be creative, but as suggested earlier, stay within the P&W theme. ENJOY! By the way, thanks for the suggestions on the 2nd cab. Your opinions are appreciated. 552 Sat, Oct 2, 4:05PM EST Azbug fear: All of the aforementioned stuff has been my experience with P&W. The biggest factor that affected me when playing has been the guy up front leading. I always "Feel Out" where his head is at when it comes to the Bass part in the song. I had one awesome guy that told me he loved melodic Bass parts. That turned out to be a situation where I could do just about anything I wanted, as long as it was in the chord. When I would go too "Out There" I'd get a look with a smile and he would make a comment like "Experimenting, Huh?". That was a way cool situation. The guy I play for now is almost exactly the opposite. If "m not playing very close to what he is doing with his left hand on the piano (usually predictable, mundane, typical,...ad nauseum) he looks at me like I am living in another dimension. It's kinduva bummer. The rest of the ensemble is awesome. That's why I'm still there. Once you've established what kinda freedom you're gonna have the rest is just locking in with the rhythm section. As Levite recommended; Find the kick drum and lock into the pocket 553 Sat, Oct 2, 4:30PM EST Getting BLU What is the best approach to playing the bass in a blues band? Buddy Guy, SRV, lot of harmonica solos to deal with, good guitarist though. 554 Sat, Oct 2, 6:51PM EST Skiball Blu>> I love blues gigs! I keep a low mid growl; sometime never use the front pickup. Keep a heavy 2&4 with the drummer.Make the notes short and snappy on the shuffle stuff. Blues can be boring only if you let it.The solo cats will always do thier thing but you and the drummer can make the WHOLE thing move!Dynamics are king! (how-how-how-how....) 555 Sat, Oct 2, 6:52PM EST Skiball Anybody have trouble getting in here this week? I sure did. 556 Sat, Oct 2, 11:36PM EST JPColeman Yep, Skiball. First the page kept on breaking after a while (a problem with on eof the advert graphics? Since the messages had all gone onscreen) then I got a "page not available" message. Not that I had anything to say or anything ;) 557 Sun, Oct 3, 1:34AM EST Funk Knutz Myself as well. I thought it was just another one of those good things meets tragic end deals. After having been a Pharoah for so many years, (King of Denial), I just couldn't help but keep on typing in to check. Mr. Coleman owes us some good stories about that Trace Elliot if he bought it. I hope mall is going well for everyone. Oh well, got to get up early, so I hope to talk to everyone again real soon. 558 Sun, Oct 3, 1:36AM EST Funk Knutz I actually meant I hope "all" is going well, Mall is most definitely a Freudian slip, since all the stores are already front running their Christmas Wares. 559 Sun, Oct 3, 2:59AM EST PHAT_GROUND_BASS 560 Sun, Oct 3, 2:59AM EST PHAT_GROUND_BASS 561 Sun, Oct 3, 3:00AM EST PHAT_GROUND_BASS im cool] 562 Sun, Oct 3, 9:15AM EST Mr. Bass Ski> I also has a problem getting on, I kept getting an error message, very frustrating. .....Glad to hear all the good comments on TOP, Rocco uses a lot of ghost notes when he plays, he doesnt actually sound out the note, he lets up on the note on the fretboard, so it sounds as if he is always pumping out the rhythm. That 16th note drive on What Is Hip has to be one of the classic basslines. 563 Sun, Oct 3, 11:14AM EST anonymous I love da bass 564 Sun, Oct 3, 11:14AM EST anonymous da bass is good 565 Sun, Oct 3, 12:33AM EST skiball Mr bass>> Off to Brownns Backer Club of Central Fl to watch your Pats stomp my Browns. Yiiiiiiipe... yiiiiiiiiipe........ yiiiiiiiipe!!!! :( 566 Sun, Oct 3, 12:38AM EST skiball Ojeb >> Were @ Pretzels on Red Bug and Tuscawilla. << I know I should pay closer attention but who can recomend a budget 5 string for $600 max. (Must have 3/4" spacing @ bridge) 567 Sun, Oct 3, 5:55PM EST Mr. Bass Bass Day 99 is Sunday Oct 10, I have had these tickets for 2 months.. I get a bad case of Diverticulitis and may have to miss it,,, man, life can be so unfair. 568 Sun, Oct 3, 7:11PM EST Pacman You can add me to the seemingly unending list of guys here doing P&W stuff. Flexibility and, IME, *versatility* are the keys. From week to week we've played everything from the real lame "Carpenters" type stuff to ska, *heavy* gospel, soul R&B, rock, you name it.... It's a great situation too, no amp (EAW wedge!), great hours, all pro guys and GREAT pay!!! Love, Peace and BASS 569 Sun, Oct 3, 7:49PM EST anonymousandthensome How do you get a P&W gig , and how big are the congregations you guys are playing for? levite sounds like he plays at Madison Square Garden with all that equipment, I could dig that. 570 Sun, Oct 3, 10:00PM EST ojeb hey ski the browns had a lead for a few minutes in the game,I hear the dean basses are nice for the $,hope all is well in bassville. 571 Sun, Oct 3, 11:27PM EST Skiball Rbacker>> Looks like y'all lost a tuff one tonight.Bummer. I dont think Ill have that problem this year 572 Sun, Oct 3, 11:33PM EST Skiball Ojeb>> Thanks, I would jump on a Dean in a heartbeat but they tighten up the string spacing. I still might get a fretless though.Or I might learn to adapt to it. Im just afaid of finding a grat deal on something after I buy one. 573 Mon, Oct 4, 7:20AM EST Mr. Bass Ski> You were right about the outcome of the Pats game, sorry about that. 574 Mon, Oct 4, 10:42AM EST fear TO all with advice on P & W music mu'cho thanks , your right on target. The capo thing was a big LOL for me! I bet it was like ... where did he goooooo ohno! How to get a gig tike this,,for me .. I wasn't looking. My name juat sort'a floated around, but I guess you could go to your local church and get to know some of the people. We were able to set up last saturday at the church It's a small one, 100 seats +, I took the ampeg svt4 and 8 10s, boy that sucker's heavy, I unbiamped it in the parking lot. "I don't have a structural damage waver on my contract" and that was still to much. I had it set to maby 4 hit low e and the whole place rattled! cut the bass down to almost half and stil some back ground , wound up at vol. 21/2 and bass at 1/2 trb full and mid 3/4. I think the G K and the 15 would be work fine here. I not getting any money for this, and most wont unless your A touring P & W headliner. I,m doing it becauae I love to PLAY!....STILL WATING ON THE NEW CARVIN....Bear on SVT?? Sloooow.... painfull... Death!!! Later all!!! 575 Mon, Oct 4, 11:44AM EST fear BEER not bear... geeeeeees.. 576 Mon, Oct 4, 2:19PM EST fear I need to find a 1 or 2 rack mount case for the SVT 4 head. Question should I mount an extra cooling fan on it? Biamped at full power it gets a tad toasty as the patio test proved,and being in the case will it be able to breath properly under these conditions? I know tubes like it hot, so I don't want to cool it too much. 577 Mon, Oct 4, 4:07PM EST anonymous test 578 Tue, Oct 5, 8:56AM EST anonymous hhhmmm 579 Tue, Oct 5, 8:57AM EST anonymous 580 Tue, Oct 5, 3:02PM EST Jim Jamb anyone on line this afternoon 581 Tue, Oct 5, 3:17PM EST Funk Knutz, i'm still waiting to tak e delivery of my bass, then I'll get the amp. Fender's supply side has turned out to be stinkingly bad in Europe, so it'll be another 3 week sor so before the shop gets it in. I just hope I like it, I'd feel so guilty telling the guy i didn't want it after all he's done to get it in stock. And all becasue I want a green one ;) but I've tried out a lot more stuff, and found a Trace Boxer 30 that I like- with both th4e split and jazz pickups maxxed, it sounds like the end of the world ;) I played with a hartke and peavey amp well up on my price range, and to be honest I still prefer the Boxer 30. A very nice little amp, particularily for my tastes in noise ;) 582 Tue, Oct 5, 4:01PM EST King BassBalls Anyone checked out the new JPJ release? 583 Tue, Oct 5, 5:03PM EST Thumpin >KBB: Not yet. He's one of my major influences. The unsung member of Zeppelin! 584 Tue, Oct 5, 5:18PM EST Mr. Bass I haven't KBB, but he was a great influence on me too. Good Times Bad Times was my first foray into the bass getting a little solo (well its more like 2 one bar breaks)where the guitarist had to stop playing for a few seconds.. hehehe! 585 Tue, Oct 5, 8:13PM EST anonymous hey anybody out there 586 Tue, Oct 5, 9:24PM EST Mr Bass, I gather you're not a Metallica fan then ;0) I remember the first time I listened to their first album, and there was a bass solo on there... Jaw on floor time 587 Tue, Oct 5, 9:36PM EST crimins Anonandthen... > Have you seen the Church Bass article in the latest Bass Player. Seems like there is a shortage of us out there. At my church we have 2 separate P&W teams and are starting a 3rd. We just this week planted a new church in Jax Beach, FL (we are in Jacksonville) and we lost one bass player who had been with us about 3 years since he wanted to go to the new church. But guess what? There was another guy who has been attending for about 6 months standing in the wings who took his place. The new guy plays a beautiful 20 year old black Ric 4001. Sounds great! Anyway, we have two bass players (me and the new guy) but will have three teams. So guess who gets to do double duty. Like I said in a previous post, I've been at this church 5 years and they seem to keep us low enders pretty busy. Find a church that you feel that's where you should be, most importantly. Don't just go there for the music. That's not why we're doing this. Look around & talk to the worship leaders. Let them know you'r out there. A place will find you. 588 Tue, Oct 5, 9:39PM EST crimins Skiball > the Yahama RBX765 is a 5 strign in that price range with 3/4" spacing. I have the previous model, 755A, with the same spacing, that I paid just over 5 bills new. You could probably get the 765 for about the same. 589 Tue, Oct 5, 9:57PM EST King BassBalls John Paul has always been a big influence for me also. I'm gonna support him. I'm expecting the new CD to arrive any day now (Amazon). If it doesn't get here early tommorow, I'll be out of town until next week. Sure would like to listen to it on the way... 590 Tue, Oct 5, 10:28PM EST lowlifer RB where are ya???? You forget my phone #? BIT is on the 21st of Oct. What cha doin' this weekend? 591 Tue, Oct 5, 11:29PM EST anonymous Any one know wher I can find a program on the net thet teaches how to play the Bass I know how to play guitar I'd like to learn the Bass 592 Tue, Oct 5, 11:43PM EST anonymous shit 593 Wed, Oct 6, 9:38AM EST big g Anon: heres a start, and thanks for the kind word. button button 594 Wed, Oct 6, 12:43AM EST herbie MidiMe, you're damned right. time is something that all bandmates should be concerned about. a groove has something to do with interaction, give and take, saying somethin and make a pause. btw, I don't know anybody that hasn't got rhythm. if you have problems with a certain tempo or playing strict like a metronome, you have to find a way a rhythm works for you. so: everybody has a heart, everybody has a pulse. yeah 595 Wed, Oct 6, 1:19PM EST fear But then I see Steve Martin as the "Jurk" trying to keep time and scrach my head, and say I know some one like that. 596 Wed, Oct 6, 4:30PM EST King BassBalls Well, I did it. I enrolled back in college, after 24yrs. I'm gonna be the old guy. Since I don't have a real job (just gigs), I figure I'll finish my education. 597 Wed, Oct 6, 4:37PM EST King BassBalls GO BRAVES!! 598 Wed, Oct 6, 4:40PM EST FEAR DO it man!! What's the major KBB? 599 Wed, Oct 6, 6:00PM EST Later 600 Wed, Oct 6, 11:16PM EST anonymous Can anyone answer an amp/cab ohm compatability question? 601 Thu, Oct 7, 2:28AM EST yes we can answer a amp/cab ohm question. 602 Thu, Oct 7, 8:53AM EST anonymous 603 Thu, Oct 7, 10:59AM EST anonymous 604 Thu, Oct 7, 4:43PM EST Jim Jamb King B B>>> Congrats on Youre Back to school adventure!I'm inveious. With some type of finacial aide I would do the same.Let me know what youre taking. gotta run bye!...... 605 Thu, Oct 7, 5:01PM EST Fear JJ, I bet he's majoring in music! With a minor in peforming arts! 606 Thu, Oct 7, 5:02PM EST Fear prefo...never mind... 607 Thu, Oct 7, 5:05PM EST Funk Knutz >OJEB- I think that I agree with the Yamaha as an excellent alternative for a 5-Stringer. I must say, however, that you should also consider an old Ibanez SDGR w/Soapbar PU's. I owned one for two years. Those soapbars are so hot that you could possibly scorch your fingers. I bought mine at a pawnshop for around $200.00, and sold it on E-Bay for over twice that two years later. Talk about your lack of depreciation. Just make sure the neck is straight and the electronics are 100% first. Word of warning. The treble pickup will hiss like sizzling eggs if you crank it passed half-way w/out EQ'ing it, and toning down the tweeter if you have a 2x10 or 4x10 cabinet. I would still be the proud owner if I weren't born w/the hands I've got. My fingers could model for a sausage commercial, and my thumb could pedal their line of Kielbasa. I think you would be very happy w/one of these, as dollar for dollar they just basically kick-A. >JP- Thanks for updating me on the amp. I think it sounds like the Boxer has a magic connection for you. That is just as important as the connection w/the bass neck. It is the end product of your sound, so you have to like it-or don't waste the money. 608 Thu, Oct 7, 8:08PM EST crimins Pacman > if you're lurking around here, I'm going to be in the Atlanta area in mid November and thought I'd check a few places that carry some high-end basses because around the end of the year I'm going after one (that is if my year-end bonus is substantial enough!). I've been to Guitar Center. What about Atlanta Discount Music (is that correct?). Can you recommend any other places? I'm going to be looking at stuff around the $2,000 range. 609 Fri, Oct 8, 9:34AM EST Pacman Atlanta Discount is a good place to start, also I hear Ken Stanton is selling Aguillar now :-) though I havn't been yet. Actually, Tara music on the south side has a few really nice ones left too. Love Peace and BASS 610 Fri, Oct 8, 12:19AM EST big g Looking for an inexpensive 5,I would check these out button 611 Fri, Oct 8, 1:27PM EST Azbug big g: I wouldn't mind trying out one of those ESP LTD Musicians Friend has had in the catalog the last year, or so. I have played a couple of the high end ESP's and they are pretty nice. Anybody played one of the LTD's? The price seems to be in a decent range. 612 Fri, Oct 8, 3:42PM EST JohnnieA Going to see Jethro Tull this weekend. Anyone seen them lately? Any of the originals Still with the band besides Ian Anderson? Can't wait to hear "Living In The Past". Later.............. 613 Sat, Oct 9, 0:01AM EST Mr. Bass JohnnieA> I saw Tull here in CT a month ago, great show, I posted about it, but it may have gotten swallowed up by the second language that was on here awhile back :) The only other original member was Martin Barre. 614 Sat, Oct 9, 4:09AM EST anonymous anybody out there? 615 Sat, Oct 9, 10:44AM EST crimins Thanks, Pacman. I'll check 'em out in Nov. 616 Sat, Oct 9, 9:09PM EST TODAY THE OFFICE OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT (OPM) ANNOUNCED THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE FOR ALL FEDERAL EMPLOYEES FOR THE YEAR 2000. THERE WILL BE TWO LESS HOLIDAYS IN THE WASHINGTON D.C. AREA NEXT YEAR. HALLOWEEN AND THANKSGIVING HAVE BEEN CANCELLED. THE WITCH IS MOVING TO NEW YORK AND SHE'S TAKING THE TURKEY WITH HER. 617 Sun, Oct 10, 2:13AM EST dosh robyns hey, I own a nice SWR bass rig but im not happy with the sound I get live at gigs, anyone have any tips on how to get good live sound, plenty of bottom end, without harshness or distortion. 618 Sun, Oct 10, 1:52PM EST Well I went and did it. I listed the 360 for sale on Ebay. Dont need 3 amps and the Acoustic is just not getting played. Want to check it out? button Tons of closeup jpegs if anyone is interested. Shipping would probably be prohibitive for you right coasters. Johnnie A> will you forgive me? 619 Sun, Oct 10, 1:52PM EST big g OOPS......thats me above 620 Sun, Oct 10, 4:43PM EST crimins Big G > not interested in buying, but boy, do those pics bring back some early 70's memories when I had one of those. What a honker! People in the back of the rooms where I played said their innards were rumbling when I played that thing. Don't forget, in addition to Jaco and Larry G, JPJ used them, as did Randy Meisner when he was in the Eagles. Great amp! 621 Sun, Oct 10, 5:20PM EST big g crimins>tanx for the comment. Yea man, this thing projects. I remember seeing the James Gang bassist using one too. Larry Graham had 4 of them for the Snack Concert at Kezar Stadium. I could hear him loud and clear in the nosebleed seats. The best bass tone I had ever experienced in an outdoor venue. 9ers got their butts kicked. Hope Young can come back soon. 622 Sun, Oct 10, 10:16PM EST Mr. Bass Bass Day 99 was today in NYC, saw Chuck Rainey play solo!! That was cool, got to speak with Tony Levin, bought his book, met the owner of Warrior basses, these basses look incredible close up, what works of art, the inlay was superb, no one was trying them out until Chuck R. mentioned them when he hit the stage, then you couldnt get near the booth. Had to leave early as I was feeling like hell, missed Victor Bailey. big g> I wish I could put a bid on that 360, always wanted one, I was sold the day I saw a bassist using one and I stood in the middle of the room and the bass was felt in my chest! 623 Sun, Oct 10, 10:50PM EST Mr. Bass Post script> Anthony Jackson made a rare public appearance, he stated that there were three bassists he thought were the most innovative and really making a statement when he started out, they were Joe Osborn, James Jamerson and Chuck Rainey. Two of the three were influences for me too, man I am getting old! 624 Sun, Oct 10, 11:45PM EST Thumpin Mr. Bass> I love Jamerson but it's hard to hear his nuances on those old Motown records. Rainey is right up front on records like Aja and Royal Scam by Steely Dan. Both bassists are guys who prove you don't have to play a million notes a second to be amazing and respected. I love Jaco too 'cause he was fast but he still played with so much feel. 625 Mon, Oct 11, 0:48AM EST Azbug Mr.B: I am absolutely dyin' of envy over here! A.J??? That man was, is, and always will be my favorite. He, more than any other, has been a major influence on me and my playing. Yowza, I wish I coulda been there. 626 Mon, Oct 11, 5:40AM EST Juno_Bassman Anyone know anything about Fender Prodigy Basses? 627 Mon, Oct 11, 8:32AM EST Mr. Bass Az> A.J. always amazed me on Al Di Meola's albums, he was going note for note with Al on some of those unison licks, very impressive. One obscure track A.J. played on was Chick Coreas Leprechaun album on a song called Nite Sprite, what excellent note choices and phrasing, check it out if you havent heard it. 628 Mon, Oct 11, 9:46AM EST fear ZZ TOP and SKYNARD shearing the stage in Little Rock on Nov.12th. P&W gig went good, no train wrecks! High point, little old lady of around 78 came up to the stage (with escort) and said that was the best music she has ever hurd at that church. Later E-one 629 Mon, Oct 11, 10:52AM EST JohnnieA big g>> Well, I guess you know what your doin.... Can't help but feel that you will "some day" boot yourself in the butt.. As for me, I will leave my Traynor setup to my daughter, or be buried in it. Good luck, hope it brings hugh bucks! Tull was rockin in Phoenix last night! Simply awesome.... Later.............. 630 Mon, Oct 11, 2:26PM EST crimins Fear > way to go on the P&W. Hey, if the senior citizens go for it, you're in there! 631 Mon, Oct 11, 2:28PM EST King BassBalls fear and JJ>>Thanks for the well wishes on my return to college. A new adventure is how I'm looking at it. I'm going for a degree in computer science. Starting classes next Monday. Anybody tried out the new Hartke bass? 632 Mon, Oct 11, 5:05PM EST fear Crimins>> It's kinda funny I was set up on the left and (much to our displesure) the drummer was set up on the right. Its the only way it would fit, But I took the svt4 and 8- 10s .... guess where every one sat... Yep! on the right!! And I haven't hit the first note yet!! AHAAAA THE awesome power of AMPEG!! 633 Mon, Oct 11, 5:21PM EST fear KBB>>> I bet that Hartky wont go...I havent seen any finish hold to alum. for very long. alum. oxidizes quickly, and when mixed with sweat becomes as messy as graphite powder,,yuck..But.. it might have "THE" sound??? 634 Mon, Oct 11, 5:37PM EST fear Hee Hee,, And not to mention playin out side in the cold,,.frost bite anyone? At least wood warms up a bit,,, HEA fellows! I'm stuck again! Could'ya bring me a nother hot hands ...please 635 Mon, Oct 11, 6:29PM EST King BassBalls fear>>I am really just courious about the Harke bass. I really don't need another bass lying around. Glad to hear your new gig went well. 636 Mon, Oct 11, 7:13PM EST Funk Knutz Is dis ting down again? 637 Mon, Oct 11, 8:28PM EST Skiball Hey all! I think Im officialy a pro now! I got a tux gig! Anybody want to buy some leather and spikes? :) 638 Mon, Oct 11, 9:48PM EST Mr. B Ski> Did the cumberbund come with it? hehehe 639 Mon, Oct 11, 9:50PM EST Mr. Bass Ski > I remember my first Tux gig, my wife thought for sure I packed the black shoes in my gig bag.... needless to say, white sneakers and a tux dont cut it. LOL! 640 Mon, Oct 11, 9:55PM EST Rbacker Ski-congrats man! Hello all. 641 Mon, Oct 11, 10:06PM EST Rbacker been busy working on project at work, $3 mil. machine change. so much work and so little time to jamm with my buddies. Mother in law broke her ankle last week, had to crawl 20 ft. to get to the house. Pops was at school. going to go play and relax a little. 642 Mon, Oct 11, 10:08PM EST Rbacker when you guys play with busy g@#$$^%^r players, you just hang on the root/5/octave plan or do you get busy? I'm keeping it simple and doing rythm stuff with the drummer. Just curious. Have a good week all. 643 Tue, Oct 12, 7:41AM EST 1bassdude Rbacker--It depends on "how busy" the G*(%#r player is...If I can get in a decent fill without making the whole thing muddy, I'll go for it. But if he's a blazin', I keep a simple groove 'till he's out of steam (hee..hee..hee). By the way...anyone have any experience with Jeff Berlin's "Player's School" located in Tampa, FLA? I was think'in about a one-week intensive to get some new ideas and add some chops. FEAR- Congrats on the p&w gig. Glad all went well. Its funny...we had a similar experience/reaction to the music from the "senior crowd". Seems they are getting a little tired of the same 'ole hymns (nothing against hymns...). 644 Tue, Oct 12, 9:36AM EST fear Rbacker... Simple and with alot of punch/definition works for me too And after he flames out I'll get a little more agresive, but keeping within the tune were doin! I dont go "nuts" until I get a solo. Then watch out! 645 Tue, Oct 12, 4:00PM EST Grump Glad to see everyone's having fun. FEAR-Congrat's on the P&W gig. And to Ski on your Tux gig. About the older crowd at church when I was in high school I played with a group of kids that went around to all the Catholic churchs in the area and played folk music at the masses you'd think we were playing heavy metal the way some of the old people complained. Now my son is playing in the same kind of group and they have the same problem. Went for an MRI for my left shoulder last week still playing phone tag with the Dr. for the results. Got a new toy today(I been Married 25 yrs today) my wife bought me a Dideridoo. Should me fun trying to play it. 646 Tue, Oct 12, 4:24PM EST JohnnieA Congrats Grump! Is that a silver Dideridoo? Ha Ha 647 Tue, Oct 12, 4:56PM EST fear HI Johnnie A, AIN"T forgot, just been real busy of late. working up a jig for router. goin to try it out on some scrap I hope this week end. Grump !!! You old dog!! 25 WOW!! See, that proves that bass players Hold on to a good thing when they see it! What did you get Mrs Grump?? 648 Tue, Oct 12, 5:06PM EST JohnnieA fear>> I've gened up a preliminary SSS installation guide. If you like I can email it to you. Just a rough draft... 649 Tue, Oct 12, 5:35PM EST fear John>>> Grate!!Send It on!! 650 Tue, Oct 12, 5:50PM EST Mr. Bass Grump> 25! Thats great! Congrats. We are coming up to 16 years this Saturday, and we both are musicians that are strong headed, but its worked. I never got a Dideridoo though. I guess I will have to wait 9 more years for it! hehehe 651 Tue, Oct 12, 6:10PM EST fear Well howdy Mr Bass, looks like a nother big pat on the back is due!!! 652 Tue, Oct 12, 7:11PM EST Skiball Rb>> Sup bro? If I cant hear a melody line to accompany busy players I keep on the root PERIOD! Then try to anchor everyting with a funky simple groove - rythmicaly! As in Pink Floyds "One of these days" (mius the delay) ........PL&J Y'all 653 Tue, Oct 12, 8:21PM EST Grump Fear....Sent Mrs. Grump a dozen roses at work. She loved them. 654 Tue, Oct 12, 8:42PM EST Mr. Bass Fear >Thanks,... Rb>I also do the less is more routine when the G&*^#!$t acts up. Ski> The best part of my tux gigs were the breaks and dinner. 655 Tue, Oct 12, 10:38PM EST Rbacker Grump and MB, congrats on the aniv's. I'm at 8 right now and having fun. 656 Tue, Oct 12, 10:41PM EST Rbacker To all, thanks for the replies, I keep it simple but am givin chances to stretch out. We just play three and four chord jams for 15-30min. at a time, just rockin'. Lots of fun as g#$%^r players are pretty good. 657 Tue, Oct 12, 10:43PM EST Rbacker Have a good one all and talk to you later. 658 Tue, Oct 12, 11:41PM EST Skiball On a somewhat realated subject, I put money down on an engagement ring. Not the hugest thing in the world but then neither am I! HEE HEE! Yea I got a good one for sure..... Looks like the 5 string has to wait though. :( 659 Wed, Oct 13, 1:54AM EST Thumpin >Ski, I hear ya. I'm tying the knot next summer...gotta wait on a Yamaha 5-string that I want...The Clevinger the good ol' P-bass are just fine, though.>Rbacker: I always seem to get on line when you are off! Must be that Pacific standard time thing. I think simple and punchy is the way to go too, although when there is a break and the g%$@#! player is done, it's fun to take off! 660 Wed, Oct 13, 1:35PM EST Mr.Bass and Grump congratulations on your anniversaries. Just had my 25th in June and I feel very lucky to have found someone to put up with my BS all these years. I haven't always been as good to her as she has to me. 661 Wed, Oct 13, 1:36PM EST King BassBalls uh....that was me 662 Wed, Oct 13, 1:41PM EST King BassBalls RB>>In general, lock in with the drummer and don't step on any toes. 663 Wed, Oct 13, 3:03PM EST fear I got a card in the mail from Carvin, L B 70 will ship nov 5 th. I,m glad I phoned it in because the order form woulda looked some thing like this?? LB, RB, MHS, BSQ BURST, HB 2, 5 PLN ,ETC, BCH, WS,- 70,, Near as I can figure... whewww! ,OH,, W/HSC.free!! 664 Wed, Oct 13, 5:14PM EST JohnnieA fear>> I sent you a copy of the SSS Kit instructions, however, I received a mail failure notice. Re-sent again. Let me know if it comes through this time. Later................. 665 Wed, Oct 13, 5:33PM EST fear HI Johnnie ,, It came in ok the first time. I also had troubles today gettin in. The instructions are to me easy to read, except for those suspicious little red X's. Hee Hee 666 Wed, Oct 13, 6:00PM EST fear I've made some dummie bodies out of pine in the shape of the Ibanez I plan to use so I can get the jig right, and ya know they dont look half bad! Hummmm.... 667 Wed, Oct 13, 6:03PM EST big g fear> what no tweed case?? I hope they moved the handle on the abs, way out of balance. They sent me one by mistake an I returned it. Wonder if the 10 day return policy applies to cases? Only $20 more. 668 Wed, Oct 13, 6:04PM EST fear GOTTA run .....out 669 Wed, Oct 13, 6:09PM EST fear HEA G ,,NO tweed, less to worry about gettin messed up. Out of ballance you say? how about the BASS it self?? uhho 670 Wed, Oct 13, 6:17PM EST fear GOTTA GO FOR SURE LATER E _ONE 671 Wed, Oct 13, 7:53PM EST Mr. Bass Fear> That order form would have needed a degreee @ MIT to figure out! hehehe, Thanks for the Congrats guys. Ski >Size really doesn't matter :) Her smile will be just as glowing if its 1/8 Carat or 4 C. 672 Wed, Oct 13, 7:58PM EST Mr. Bass I have to confess...I did order a Acoustic /Electric guitar from Carvin many moons ago, all custom, Flame maple top, gold hardware, the works, even a special name plate. It took some time to get but it was def. worth it, and with the tweed case too. I hope you guys dont kick me out o'here, LMAO! 673 Wed, Oct 13, 9:49PM EST anonymous Mr.Bass..I am in shock! You Played guitar???? 674 Wed, Oct 13, 10:32PM EST Azbug ummmmmm....uh, I...well, I studied classical guitar for 10 years... Mr. B: maybe you and I can start our own WRC? :) 675 Wed, Oct 13, 11:27PM EST anonymous OMG.....the truth comes out..ok..everyone fess up, anyone else? 676 Thu, Oct 14, 3:57AM EST reverend rumble hello fellow players 677 Thu, Oct 14, 3:58AM EST reverend rumble any one there 678 Thu, Oct 14, 7:45AM EST Jim Jamb Not I,I can spell out some Chords if I think about it.Won't pick up one in public.Nothing against the instr. I just can not play A guitar Piano,Drums are my other instr.s 679 Thu, Oct 14, 9:50AM EST fear Uhho, MY conscience is starting to bother me. Drums, strat..barely,strings too small hehe, fx,s on the key board/synth, thats FUN!! OH my GOD ..I'm guilty....Aruggggggg! OH yeah, hand saw too!! 680 Thu, Oct 14, 10:24AM EST crimins O.K I'll 'fess up too. I'm a closet Dobro player and I'm also going through a computerized piano training course. Hey, it helps with the music theory. 681 Thu, Oct 14, 10:32AM EST King BassBalls On my seventh birthday my parents gave me a g#$%@r. I took lessons from a lady for a couple of years until she became too ill to teach. I'm glad I got that off my chest (pun intended). I feel much better now (could that be considered another pun?). 682 Thu, Oct 14, 10:55AM EST fear HeeHee...See,, who says the bass player is just the guy who hangs out with the band!Were the guy the band hangs out with! I GOtta go put a radio in a truck be back later. 683 Thu, Oct 14, 12:29AM EST big g First instrument, accordian. Speaking of chests. That cute italian girl who gave me lessons had a nice one. Probably the only reason I stayed with it 5 years. At 13 dad bought my first g*#tar. 19 bought my first bass an never looked back. Still have a strat in case I feel like playing some Ventures. 684 Thu, Oct 14, 1:37PM EST fear I,m back!! Battery cable was so corroded I couldn't break it loose to get the power wire on..= LPS. I wonder if I should mention the hand saw on TBL? might go good with the turn table thread. They say I'm backwards when I get behind the kit left hand on hihat, right on snair I am right handed ?? 685 Thu, Oct 14, 1:47PM EST fear Crimins.. A friend of mine said he saw a Dobro bass {or a steal bodied} bass at a music store, we went about a week later and it was gone..Yall ever hurd of such? 686 Thu, Oct 14, 2:37PM EST King BassBalls Regal makes a dobro looking bass. Played one in Helen Ga. last weekend. Its louder than my Washburn AB20. I have seen some of the Regals on eBay recently. 687 Thu, Oct 14, 3:10PM EST Fear KBB>> What was the tone like? 688 Thu, Oct 14, 6:50PM EST King BassBalls The Regal had a clear, crisp tone. The action was set fairly low. The tuners looked kinda cheap. Had a seperate tailpiece and bridge. Didn't ask about the price. 689 Thu, Oct 14, 7:46PM EST Mr. Bass After all those confessions I guess I cant be drummed out of here, 'cause you guys would have to be right behind me, LMAO! BTW, Tony Levins book is pretty humorous. Its basically about all different experiences on the road and in life, memorable gigs, people, even a recipe. 690 Thu, Oct 14, 8:11PM EST booboo can anyone help a beginner 691 Thu, Oct 14, 8:12PM EST booboo I have alot of questions 692 Thu, Oct 14, 8:17PM EST booboo anyone out there 693 Thu, Oct 14, 8:59PM EST Grump Sat down with my son earlier tonight and showed him some blues tunes. Right now he playing the trill is gone with B.B. King. Played a 5 string G&L bass thru a Peavey firebass (700 watts) thru a peavey 4x10, the g&l played nice and sounded great but I can't get used to the looseness of the b string. Also played a Ibanez soundgear bass it was pretty decent for the money. 694 Thu, Oct 14, 10:40PM EST Rbacker Grump, trill is gone? he originally play a woodwind?? Thanks for the info guys, They've been wanting something "funky" when they look at me for my "lead" but the hand goes all thumbs and all them strings start goin. Having fun though. 695 Thu, Oct 14, 10:42PM EST Rbacker Picked up a g^&*r a couple of times but too many strings and too small and the whole pick thing feels weird. Hope everybody has a good one. talk to you later. 696 Thu, Oct 14, 10:43PM EST Rbacker Like to fiddle with the drums though, Neil Peart I'm not but have a good time as long as I don't try to think to much, thinking leads to hesitation and he who hesitates is lost. 697 Thu, Oct 14, 10:44PM EST Rbacker OOps, gotta go read to the minions, take care all and to all a good night. 698 Thu, Oct 14, 11:30PM EST anonymous How much is a Warwick Corvette std 4str worth. Mint condition 699 Fri, Oct 15, 12:26AM EST JohnnieA TGIF 700 Fri, Oct 15, 12:50AM EST BassFanatic Hey Anyone in here? 701 Fri, Oct 15, 12:51AM EST BassFanatic TGIF i Feel u Man 702 Fri, Oct 15, 12:51AM EST Mr Bass Hey Fanatic 703 Fri, Oct 15, 12:52AM EST BassFanatic Im Coo But im Gone 704 Fri, Oct 15, 12:54AM EST anonymous Hello 705 Fri, Oct 15, 3:16PM EST Jaco Broadway Blues Nr. 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 706 Fri, Oct 15, 3:25PM EST fear ANYONE OUT THEIR GOT A BP 8 'side's me? 707 Fri, Oct 15, 5:38PM EST anonymous 708 Fri, Oct 15, 5:39PM EST anonymous bsss fem R&B rock 709 Fri, Oct 15, 7:53PM EST Skiball Bless me bass brothers for I too have sinned.(ME & Sweatie have a JV Strat and a Blues Jr amp on lay-away) But its mostly for her I swear!!!...........Nee! 710 Fri, Oct 15, 8:34PM EST Sweaver Does anyone know what a "Professional MIDI Bass, 360 Systems" is worth? 711 Fri, Oct 15, 11:04PM EST ojeb hey Ski congratulations on the engagement!Hope all is well with everyone. 712 Sat, Oct 16, 3:57AM EST M. B. The Whatever Happened to Corner: Muzz Skullings(Living Color), Fran Sheehan(Boston), Glen Cornick(early Tull)..just curious to know what these guys are doing now, anyone know? 713 Sat, Oct 16, 10:30AM EST anonymous anybody outthere?? 714 Sat, Oct 16, 12:02AM EST crimins Dobro also makes a bass. I've never heard one but Bass Player gave it so-so reviews. When I said I played a Dobro, it's not the bass, it's the slide type, like Jerry Douglas. Although he'e light-years ahead of me. Speaking of Dobro, I'm doing two bluegrass gigs this weekend, one last night and one tonight. Playing the fretless 5-string, which I can make sound pretty close to the upright if a kill some of the sustain. The guys in the band love it. It's got the sound, but louder and more punch that a standard URB. Badk to the church P&W team in the morning, then P&W practice Monday night. Whew! Busy weekend. 715 Sat, Oct 16, 12:03AM EST crimins that badk should be "back". 716 Sat, Oct 16, 1:55PM EST 1bassdude WOW! Had the eye of Hurricane Irene pass over us early this morning. Some local flooding and a few tree limbs down. The most damage I sustained was self-inflicted. I got home from work in a driving, heavy rain, and got the bright idea to pull my blazer around to the front door of my house. As I was beginning to back up, a big pine tree "jumped" in the way an POW!. But after all that, the bass gear is still intact and dry. Last night, after the power went out, my daughter's boyfriend, my older son and I did a little acoustic jam session. Not a bad way to pass the time! See ya! 717 Sat, Oct 16, 2:33PM EST migs Hi, my name is miguel does anyone know how to get a school for bass studies online 718 Sat, Oct 16, 2:34PM EST migs I'm sorry i'm kinda new here pls try to just accomodate me. 719 Sat, Oct 16, 4:27PM EST lunatick Hi.My name is Lunatick and Im a BASSaholick. 720 Sat, Oct 16, 4:47PM EST lunatick I need Help!!!! Someone out there has my baby. Some bastardo in the Dallas FortWorth area stole my bass and my bass rigg. I WAS the proud owner of a beautifull metalic red fender P-bass. I had installed Ken Smith pickups and I had a bad ass black & white custum pain job on the pick guard. They also got my vintage Kustome cabb. It had some sweet black pimp dady vinal and I had just installed two 400w fifteens. Please Hellp!!! If any one has any info Email the Lunatick at lunatick@wbell.net 721 Sat, Oct 16, 4:49PM EST lunatick thats lunatick@swbell.net 722 Sat, Oct 16, 4:56PM EST lunatick Hay annonimus I will buy your Corvett If you got one. That hapens to be exactly what I am looking for to replace my baby. 723 Sat, Oct 16, 4:58PM EST lunatick IS ANY BODY OUT THERE OUT THERE OUT THERE. ANY BODY ANY BODY ANY BODY. ECHO ECHO ECHO. 724 Sat, Oct 16, 6:06PM EST New Guy hey, does anybody know where I can get some Queen tabs? 725 Sat, Oct 16, 6:58PM EST Ski 20 licks with a "B" string for atonement. 726 Sun, Oct 17, 12:53AM EST big g Anyone looking for a super light, practice amp, great for front room practice? I saw this at Ebay, and I have one just like it. Not big enough for practice wit a drummer. Check it out here button 727 Sun, Oct 17, 12:54AM EST big g migs>>try here button 728 Sun, Oct 17, 5:30PM EST anonymous hi there. bassic greetings... 729 Sun, Oct 17, 5:34PM EST lowB hi there. 730 Sun, Oct 17, 9:53PM EST anonymousandthensome If that amp sounds as bad as it looks you are in big trouble~ 731 Sun, Oct 17, 11:35PM EST TO THE BASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 732 Sun, Oct 17, 11:57PM EST big g aats>it handles the b string with no distortion a front room volumes. Perfect for playing with a CD or the tube. Top weighs 2 lbs. Speaker 24lbs. Made in USA. It aint no redhead. With the 15 I think it sounds better than those little fenders by a ton. It wasn't a bad buy for 127.50 733 Mon, Oct 18, 2:10AM EST MidiMe Corrections, my fellow Pythons...according to the ORIGINAL script (Holy Grail) "Nee" was simply spelled - "Ni"...yes, and 'color' was spelled "colour"...go figuer, you tiny-brained wipers of other peoples' bottoms!..NI!-- I bought the bound copy back in 79...complete with script out-takes...(those that know what I'm talking about should remember the discarded "Ano-Weets and Recto-Puffs" skit....script not for sale on EBay...yuet! 734 Mon, Oct 18, 9:33AM EST fear Lunatick>> I HATE THIEVES !!!I 'll be on the look out for it here! 735 Mon, Oct 18, 9:49AM EST old-timer hi ...anyone there? 736 Mon, Oct 18, 9:52AM EST old-timer 6 billion people in the world and I'm the only one here? I should be so lucky with the lottery!!! 737 Mon, Oct 18, 11:17AM EST fear OLD TIMER.. Do you play an ""ole #7 wash tub and broom stick""? Now thats old! 738 Mon, Oct 18, 12:18AM EST BananaBass Hola, Mi Amigos! Anyone here? 739 Mon, Oct 18, 4:28PM EST a scrolling we will go !!! 740 Mon, Oct 18, 5:51PM EST I bet old timer plays a jug 741 Mon, Oct 18, 7:13PM EST anonymousandthensome big g> My apologies, it seems like I am always getting on your case about different things and I am really not trying to, I guess I am just outspoken and say what I think. It isn't the greatest looking amp, but hey who SEES sound anyways! haha 742 Mon, Oct 18, 7:14PM EST anonymousandthensome That Neil Peart video is the BOMB! How can one guy be so darn talented! ...Going back to practice. 743 Mon, Oct 18, 9:51PM EST anonymous What makes a bass tick? 744 Mon, Oct 18, 9:51PM EST anonymous Bass: Is some sort of a fish isnt it? 745 Mon, Oct 18, 10:00PM EST Rbacker Oohhh, school must be out and the kiddies are at the computer. 746 Mon, Oct 18, 10:01PM EST Rbacker Bass ticks are what you get when your fingernails are too long, and that is spelled Phish. 747 Mon, Oct 18, 10:12PM EST Rbacker G- you sell the big amp yet?? 748 Mon, Oct 18, 11:42PM EST lowlifer RB got the BIT thing on thursday. 749 Tue, Oct 19, 0:11AM EST M. B Does anyone know where I could get a custom bridge made? I was thinking about adding an extra D and G string to my 4 string(smaller guage), same premise as the eight string bass, just not doubling the E and A. 750 Tue, Oct 19, 0:13AM EST M. B OMG....I just realized I would have a SIX string gui/Bass! 751 Tue, Oct 19, 0:13AM EST M. B Guibass? Hey I may have started something here! LOL! 752 Tue, Oct 19, 0:14AM EST M. B Bassgui? 753 Tue, Oct 19, 10:36AM EST fear I'm going to "Alberqurki" NM. as my son says, the first of Nov. Any OF you BC'ers live around "them thar parts"? 754 Tue, Oct 19, 1:31PM EST old-timer I use the name old-timer so I dont get confused with the jerk-off bass players out there today....Proud to be from the 60's when they "played " actual bass parts!!! Over. 755 Tue, Oct 19, 1:34PM EST old-timer Let's see...Jeff Ament or Tim Bogert? Michael Anthony or John Paul Jones? etc. etc.etc. 756 Tue, Oct 19, 1:36PM EST old-timer Someone tell me again how Flea revolutionize bass playing?????I'm listening.... 757 Tue, Oct 19, 1:40PM EST old-timer Be back later...I'm going to learn some "kid rock" bass parts! 758 Tue, Oct 19, 2:03PM EST King BassBalls old-timer>>>I with you dude! JPJ and Tim Bogert are two of my favorites. Real basslines. Real music. No MTV for me. 759 Tue, Oct 19, 2:19PM EST jim99 what do you guys think of Sadowsky basses. 760 Tue, Oct 19, 3:42PM EST fear KBB & old timer>>> YEP and that ole #7 wash tub sounds real good with some one who knows how to play it. Seen it played in person at a mountain music fest. in Mountain View Ar. They even had it mic'ed I,m 41, Is that Over the Hill??? heehee. jim99 heard nothin but good about Sadowsky A fine peace of work, have never played one, but would junp at the chance 761 Tue, Oct 19, 3:51PM EST fear KBB & old timer>>> YEP and that ole #7 wash tub sounds real good with some one who knows how to play it. Seen it played in person at a mountain music fest. in Mountain View Ar. They even had it mic'ed I,m 41, Is that Over the Hill??? heehee. jim99 heard nothin but good about Sadowsky A fine peace of work, have never played one, but would junp at the chance. Flea was the first insect to master the bass??? nude!... oh well!I need a reason to laugh today, even if it is self inflected...Wife's mamogram showed something today 762 Tue, Oct 19, 3:52PM EST fear HA HA HA how did that happen??? 763 Tue, Oct 19, 4:57PM EST King BassBalls fear>>You're younger than me. Best wishes for your wife. Don't know what I'd do without mine. 764 Tue, Oct 19, 5:01PM EST King BassBalls jim99>>I never played one either, but I hear they are great instruments. 765 Tue, Oct 19, 6:39PM EST fear Thank you King B.B. Were keep'in our fingers crossed, chances are slight and it was caught early. If your wives haven't or wont get examed,tell them your gon'na play the theme to the twilight zone until they do! 766 Tue, Oct 19, 6:43PM EST fear BUT then they say, well... when are YOU going to the proctlogest..Huuummm 767 Tue, Oct 19, 6:45PM EST fear LATER e-one 768 Tue, Oct 19, 7:11PM EST old-timer fear..think positive..good things happen to good people! King BB...you've been there..pass it down..bass players from the 60's set the standards..listen and learn!! 769 Tue, Oct 19, 7:12PM EST old-timer What are you guy's using for basses? 770 Tue, Oct 19, 7:13PM EST anonymous Anyone know where I can find The Bass tabs for that new santana song smoh? 771 Tue, Oct 19, 7:13PM EST anonymous I have a POS lotus 772 Tue, Oct 19, 7:41PM EST anonymousandthensome What do you guys think of Allen Woodys 200 + bass collection? I say its better than buying drugs, but maybe he could donate a few to the Boys Club or something? But on the other hand I dont see Bill Gates giving away money because he has 65 Billion, give or take a few billion depending on the market. 773 Tue, Oct 19, 7:46PM EST anonymousandthensome Saw a double neck Alembic(used) priced at 20,000!! Thats almost as much as my downpayment on my house 20 years ago! 774 Tue, Oct 19, 7:46PM EST big g I guess if you call playing bass naked revolutionary, then flea is it. :^( old timer....dont forget Duck. Rbacker> tomorrow is the last day, minimum hasn't been reached yet but its not far. I checked on how much to ship it to Madison Wisconsin......grab your wallet....$392. Looks like it will have to be picked up here. lowlifer>>you playin Saturday?? If not I'm goin to a jam in San Leandro, you and yours are invited! Let me know. 775 Tue, Oct 19, 7:49PM EST big g aats>I think collecting that many basses is obscene. 776 Tue, Oct 19, 8:27PM EST CLOCKWORK I am a Death fan anyone knows Steve Digiorgio ? 777 Wed, Oct 20, 0:11AM EST Mr. Bass I can't see why anyone would need 200 or more basses, but I can see having a small collection for different gigs or recordings, like an Acoustic, 4, 5, or 6 string, fretless, upright, Stick or elec upright because they all have thier own sound and serve different purposes, but after awhile its redundancy. 778 Wed, Oct 20, 10:47AM EST Fear Needless to say Woody Loves bass. And like most artist, esentric to an extent, Woody "collects" I've met him briefly He seemed like a nice guy, at least he took the time to talk and gave me some picks , I didn't ask for them, 779 Wed, Oct 20, 11:13AM EST Fear Old timer>> #7 wash tub and broom stick! whatta you think. heehee just kidding I Play an Ibanez TR series 4 string Pj type good tone and lite weight, and a 4 string accoustic/ electric and soon a Carvin LB 70 780 Wed, Oct 20, 11:16AM EST Dork Hey everyone. I'm looking for some oddball Alembic basses: Electrum, Vector, Scorpion, Persuader, etc. If anyone has one for sale please contact me. Also looking for pictures of Vectors, Electrums and Scorpions. Feel free to email me at bttryapple@aol.com if you have any. Thanks! 781 Wed, Oct 20, 11:32AM EST King BassBalls I currently own 14 basses, and have had 3 others stolen. I see nothing wrong with owning X-amount of basses or furbys or baseball cards etc. There are several more basses I would like to own. Live and let live. 782 Wed, Oct 20, 11:36AM EST King BassBalls old-timer>>>Fender Jazz (American) is my main axe. On gigs I take along a Fender Precision Elite as a backup. 783 Wed, Oct 20, 11:41AM EST King BassBalls Anybody tried out those little Ashbury basses with the rubber strings? 784 Wed, Oct 20, 11:59AM EST Fear MAN!...I HATE THIEVES!!! Rubber strings? 785 Wed, Oct 20, 12:04AM EST old-timer King BB...you here? 786 Wed, Oct 20, 12:04AM EST old-timer Fear...u here? 787 Wed, Oct 20, 12:08AM EST big g KBB>Basses were meant to be played. Furby, kid toy, bb cards, are meant to be collected. I know Johnnie A feels differently but the reason I'm selling the 360 is, it is not being played and needs to be. Electronics and speakers dont get better with age. JMHO 788 Wed, Oct 20, 12:10AM EST old-timer Must have just missed u guys....nothin wrong with collecting basses, could be much worse things to do with your money! Got 20 myself-main one is Alembic Series 2. 789 Wed, Oct 20, 12:10AM EST big g Gmorning old-timer. 790 Wed, Oct 20, 12:13AM EST old-timer big g...you are right..basses need to be played,and it's really nice to pick up a different one every time and feel the nuances built into each one. Do you know what I mean? 791 Wed, Oct 20, 12:14AM EST old-timer Wher ya from big g ? 792 Wed, Oct 20, 12:17AM EST old-timer big g...know of any live bass chat rooms? 793 Wed, Oct 20, 12:21AM EST big g Born in SF bay area, now live in the mountains between Sacto and Lake Tahoe. Where you at?? I have only 4 now and all get played regularly. I still have my handcarved highly modified 61, EBO which I would never part with for sentamental reasons all the rest could be replaced if I found something better, just haven't found it yet. 794 Wed, Oct 20, 12:26AM EST Fear YEP I is 795 Wed, Oct 20, 12:30AM EST big g Someone has bid my minimum, so it looks like the 360 is sold. 796 Wed, Oct 20, 12:31AM EST big g Have to wait for another hour to see if any snipers are waiting till the last minute to bid. Anything from here is gravy. 797 Wed, Oct 20, 12:34AM EST Fear big g Thats on e-bay ? 798 Wed, Oct 20, 12:45AM EST Thumpin >M.B. In regard to the whatever happened to....I think I heard Muzz Skillings is putting out a solo record. Don't know what Fran nor Glen are up to. Skillings is one bad cat; his riffs on Vivid still blow me away 10 years later...Time's Up was good but I thought Vivid was funkier...Listen to their Biscuits EP if you get a chance..."Money Talks" is a Skillings showcase. 799 Wed, Oct 20, 1:35PM EST JohnnieA big g>> I guess I'm a graduate of the "Pack Rat" university. Can't seem to let anything, musical instrument wise, go. I've sold a few things only to regret it. Case in point: Sold a pre CBS Strat for $200, only because I hated it. Didn't know it would be worth a couple K today. Old-timer>> I'm in that club also. Started bassin' in '64 after 5-6 years of piano training. Did take classical Gu$#*r class from a guy who studied under Sogovia for a semester. Great class! 800 Wed, Oct 20, 1:35PM EST big g fear>Yes 801 Wed, Oct 20, 1:57PM EST big g Good friend just sent me a pic of Bogert an Beck. If anyone would like to see it, drop me your e-addy and I'll forward it on. My roomate took it at the time and this is the first time I've seen it. My past still haunts me. If you dont want to put your addy here send it to rumblethump@yahoo.com Later 802 Wed, Oct 20, 2:40PM EST Johnnie A You've got mail! 803 Wed, Oct 20, 3:58PM EST JohnnieA Thanks... reponded. 804 Wed, Oct 20, 3:59PM EST JohnnieA reSponded that is.. 805 Wed, Oct 20, 4:21PM EST anonymous button <-- bounce.to/basspages - main page button <-- top sites button <-- CHAT!!!!!!!!! 806 Wed, Oct 20, 4:23PM EST MadBassist that last message was from me. Almost forgot to type in a nick. peace im out. -- 807 Wed, Oct 20, 5:48PM EST dead end cruiser where can I find tweleve bar blues tabs for upright bass or anything related ? 808 Wed, Oct 20, 6:13PM EST fear WOW... D.E.C. out'a my relm, I bet Mr Bass knows1 I got'ta go get ready for P&W practice, later E-one 809 Wed, Oct 20, 6:37PM EST old-timer big g...I'm in MA. Got a couple of sentamental favorites myself..64 Mosrite(Ventures model}and a 63 Fender Bass VI, bought new. 810 Wed, Oct 20, 6:40PM EST old-timer Johnny A...Welcome to the "club" 'old-time' bass playing!!! 811 Wed, Oct 20, 6:45PM EST old-timer How about a Michael Anthony Model bass.....one string and 8 frets. I'm thinking - big seller!!! Any input here? 812 Wed, Oct 20, 6:52PM EST big g I had a mosrite too, lusted for a bass VI. Had a coranado for about a month. Couldn't figure out how to keep it from feeding back. Even had an orig dano longhorn. Now there was a bass that cut through the mix. 813 Wed, Oct 20, 6:56PM EST big g Off to pool league. Later 814 Wed, Oct 20, 6:58PM EST old-timer You in a group now? I'm jamming with the drummer from our first group in 64, lot older now but can still rock.Why is it so hard to find a guitar player without his head up his ass? Is it the thin strings? 815 Wed, Oct 20, 7:06PM EST Do you really think MA uses that many frets? 816 Wed, Oct 20, 7:07PM EST I think 5 would do it! All he needs is an E and an A. 817 Wed, Oct 20, 8:10PM EST Mr. Bass dead end c.> You can start here it may take awhile to find what you are looking for. button Thanks, I agree, Skillings did do a great job on Vivid! We used to do Cult of Personality, or as my then 4 year old son would call it "Cocoa Personality", my fingers were worn out after that tune. 818 Wed, Oct 20, 8:10PM EST Mr. Bass second part of that was for < Thumpin 819 Wed, Oct 20, 9:59PM EST crimins Well, I'm in Atlanta for one night, so I thought I'd check out the MARS in Marietta. What a madhouse! G******R players thrashing, bass players thrashing, everybody thrashing. I don't see how you can get a good idea about how a bass or amp sounds with all the chaos in these so-called musician's superstores. So I left there and went to the Guitar Center in Marietta - much more user friendly. I tried a Lakland fretless 4 that was as smooth as silk. Also tried one of the Conklin Groovetools 7s. What a beast! But it was fun to play and after acclimating myself to the very wide neck, I was able to work my way around on it. Still looking for something a little more high-end, so I'll be checking out BAss Central in Orlando in the near future. Has anyone checked their website? www.basscentral.com. Pacman > I'll be back up here in November and will check out the Guitar Center over on I-85, and Atlanta Discount, too. I think I'll stay away from MARS, though. See y'all later. 820 Thu, Oct 21, 0:14AM EST anonymous 821 Thu, Oct 21, 2:22AM EST big g old timer>I'm getting together with my old band this saturday for a jam. Although we have moved away were still friends. Any band that sticks together 8 years, must be friends!! We had a house gig at Alameda Naval Air station 1969 - 1976. Friday we rocked, saturday was a little more subdued. I also play in a couple of trios. One blues, the other plays more variety. I book both of them so there is never any schedule conflicts. Sifting through them 6 stringers sure can be a pain. When ever I come across a "rock star" I ask em, what are you doin here?? You should be in LA. LOL Then I lose their phone #. Later 822 Thu, Oct 21, 3:55AM EST Fruitnut Please! Can anyone out there recommend their favourite distortion-box? I need one for a gig this weekend! AND - I have trouble with the tuners on my old Jazz, is this a common problem with old Fenders. 823 Thu, Oct 21, 6:49AM EST Fruitnut> I like the Boss Metal Zone. 824 Thu, Oct 21, 8:36AM EST Hazzard Fruitnut: iuse a DOD ...I think its deathmeatal pedal. It has settings for level, then lo,mid, and hi distortion, so you can tailor the tone...user friendly...andlets yiu EQ Bass sounds 825 Thu, Oct 21, 8:37AM EST Hazzard of course....its got DOD cheese....lo dist is labelled asloas "GUTS"...gime a break 826 Thu, Oct 21, 9:29AM EST fear I've got an american metal DOD it has a bass knob and it works !Works best with gain and attack way down, good growl. But the Digitech BP-8 is way more useful. 827 Thu, Oct 21, 11:50AM EST Thumpin >Mr. Bass: "Cult of Personality" has that insane funky flat-7 riff...I'll never forget the day I figured that tune out! Skillings and William Calhoun were such a team! I hope maybe the original Living Colour will reunite? Nothing against Doug Wimbish - he's no slouch either!!!! 828 Thu, Oct 21, 1:25PM EST fear My lead g#&%*r player is a closet bassest! . YEP, their it was, an old GIBSON RIPPER..In his closet! Some #@%^% tried to Marbelize paint it. Even if it is a Gibson it dose'nt deserve a fate like this.It has its nitch in history, HE said I could rescue it. and rescue I will! They had oak bodies did'nt they? 829 Thu, Oct 21, 1:37PM EST big g fear>I think they were made of maple or swamp ash. If it were oak it would weigh about 15 lbs. Did you get the pic I sent? 830 Thu, Oct 21, 1:37PM EST anonymous teach me guitar! 831 Thu, Oct 21, 1:46PM EST fear HI G ! yea man I got it. Jeff looked a bit worried hehe! ANOM>>thats g@#%&$r ! 832 Thu, Oct 21, 1:53PM EST fear Big G >I dono? it was heavy! Maby due to the massive build up of paint! Yuck!! You think Homer Formbes stripper will work? 833 Thu, Oct 21, 2:16PM EST old-timer Hi guys..fear..big g..Fruitnut-if you have the money check out DOD BassTec-it's a multi-effect box and has a great fuzz along with anything and everything else you could need. 834 Thu, Oct 21, 2:23PM EST old-timer Big..I was in a house band at a place called the Comic Strip out side of Boston from 65-69..got to play (open) for a lot of the big groups back then,Rascals,Animals,Yardbirds(with Beck and Page)Association,Tommy James,Sam the Sham,etc.etc.Great learning exp!! 835 Thu, Oct 21, 2:24PM EST anonymous 836 Thu, Oct 21, 2:26PM EST old-timer Still got the desire to play...sounds like you know what it is? Fear how bout you? Whats in your past with a bass guitar?Let it out of the closet!! 837 Thu, Oct 21, 2:27PM EST old-timer anonymous...what's up? rrr 838 Thu, Oct 21, 2:28PM EST anonymous test 839 Thu, Oct 21, 2:28PM EST old-timer Later 840 Thu, Oct 21, 2:29PM EST old-timer anonymous...that's "test 1,2...test 1,2" 841 Thu, Oct 21, 2:33PM EST anonymous test 842 Thu, Oct 21, 2:40PM EST Fear OLD timer I'm sure this group of bassest can benifit fron your exps!I hope you will stick around here.. my bp-8 WORKS WELL, How would you stack the DOD to it, OF COURSE some of the effects WE will never use on both. I grew up in the GFRR era, still one of my favorite bands. WHAT kind of stripper should I use on this god awful mess on this Ripper, everthings going to be taken out first! 843 Thu, Oct 21, 2:53PM EST anonymous test 844 Thu, Oct 21, 3:01PM EST Fear I just did the garage thing when i was a kid, nothing big, ha, or even small for that matter, Got a "band' togather on ship, navy, And we played at our local club a few times, Two X's later I,m Just startin to lock in. MY wife is VERY supportive, bought me a SVT 4 Pro with 8-10's!! I'm gonna keep her.. We known each outher when we were kids The P & W gigs gotten good marks and words gotten around. gig band mostly for fun. small local stuff. 845 Thu, Oct 21, 3:20PM EST Fear Aw crap! I gotta go put new side mounts on this 80 ft tower. I told them they were to short befor i put them up the first time!!!They never listen,,,Be back later 846 Thu, Oct 21, 3:43PM EST old-timer Fear..sounds like you have it goin good...Wife(first)!-chops are comin along,feeling confident and comfortable and of course happy to be playin bass!! Cool. 847 Thu, Oct 21, 4:03PM EST big g fear>Out here in enviroment consious CA. they have outlawed all the good paint strippers. I would recommend you check with a cabinet maker or wood working shop. They will steer you in the right direction. 848 Thu, Oct 21, 5:44PM EST JohnnieA fear>> Just a suggestion..... I was taught that the original paint made the best base, so you may be better off just sanding the old finish down with 220 followed by 400 then 600 etc. This is, of course, if you are going to re-color the body. If you're thinking of a natural grain finish then a paint stripper spray, available at any auto paint store, will loosen up the old finish enough to scrap off. Carefull though, you don't want to gauge the wood with a scrapper. Will cause you tons more hours of sanding. Use a one sided razor blade to remove on the flat surfaces and steel wool for the curves. Good luck.... 849 Thu, Oct 21, 6:34PM EST fear Thanks JohnnieA I wanted to peek under that yuck and see what she was. I have removed paint befor, I was concerned of that "make it look like granite" stuff. I did'nt know if their might be something Just for that or WOAAA DO NOT USE THIS AT ALL,MAJOR BOO BOO!>>>> later E-one. 850 Thu, Oct 21, 11:45PM EST dude69 Does anyone have suggestions for fretless strings.I just purchased a fretless Kubicki,my first fretless!I was gonna go with DR sunbeam flatwounds but someone else suggested Thomastik-Infelds'.I'm looking for the most Acoustic tone I can get.Just lookin for some suggestions.The pickups are 18-volt active. 851 Fri, Oct 22, 2:31AM EST Mr. Bass Many years ago a friend of mine said he would like to tackle the job of refinishing my Hagstrom 8, I went to get supplies, he said he had some and he would start without me, when I got back he was proceding to sand my bass down with a disc sander, 24 grit!!! Good thing he started on the back, I caught him before he got it down to a 1/4 of an inch! YIKERS! By the way, he plays guitar, hehehe 852 Fri, Oct 22, 7:40AM EST Jim Jamb Fear>>> What kind of towers do you climb cell ph. ,billboard ?Our survey dept. has been doing a lot of cell sites here in the S.E.Those guys will put a cell antena on anything they can.I was just curious.Thanks P.S. Finally get to do a jazz trio gig (drms.gtr.bass)tonight at a cigar bar,been so long I'll need to bring my fake books 853 Fri, Oct 22, 8:50AM EST Benny 854 Fri, Oct 22, 9:39AM EST Zero Cool 855 Fri, Oct 22, 9:41AM EST Zero Cool Como voc s est 856 Fri, Oct 22, 10:15AM EST big g Dude 69>I dont think you can go wrong with the Thoms. Cost more,but worth it. 857 Fri, Oct 22, 10:19AM EST fear Jim Jamb> I'm all most retired from it, long story, I work radio RF until the end of the year, maint contracts will be EXP. and I'll turn in my belt. uh ..per OASA, harness. I'll miss the wind humming through the guy wires...NOT! Congrats on the POWER trio! Geeees, 24 grit! ...(shiver) Look like Hommer,s is going to work ok. She was a black one org. Did Gene Simmons do a sig. series or something with Gibson durring that time? 858 Fri, Oct 22, 10:28AM EST fear I,ll be back in a while. 859 Fri, Oct 22, 11:20AM EST JohnnieA TGIF......... 860 Fri, Oct 22, 1:01PM EST Jim Jamb anyone on line 861 Fri, Oct 22, 1:03PM EST fear Johnnie A >>My lead Player, Dave, Should be Dropping a line to ya please post SSS page button when you can 862 Fri, Oct 22, 1:04PM EST fear HI JJ whats up ..NOT ME hehe 863 Fri, Oct 22, 1:05PM EST JohnnieA fear>> here it is..... button 864 Fri, Oct 22, 1:06PM EST fear WOW that was quick! 865 Fri, Oct 22, 1:07PM EST JohnnieA Yeah, I just happen to be lurking.... 866 Fri, Oct 22, 1:07PM EST old-timer Hey Jim...whats up? 867 Fri, Oct 22, 1:09PM EST old-timer Everyone's on at once...to bad it's not real time!!! 868 Fri, Oct 22, 1:10PM EST JohnnieA Not real time, but we do get an archive.... How's it goin old-timer? 869 Fri, Oct 22, 1:10PM EST Jim Jamb well.... Gotta go back to the field! To stake out a cell phone tower site.Ain't that ironic fear?!?....>>> we don't climb the towers we just show the client where on earth they are.The hight is determined geometricly (solving for two right triangles turned to the top of the tower) 870 Fri, Oct 22, 1:11PM EST old-timer That sssbass looks like a trip... 871 Fri, Oct 22, 1:12PM EST JohnnieA Thank you sir... I like it. 872 Fri, Oct 22, 1:12PM EST old-timer Where ya from John? 873 Fri, Oct 22, 1:13PM EST fear JJ Watch out for the ticks!! they are bad here! 874 Fri, Oct 22, 1:13PM EST old-timer What other bass/basses you play? 875 Fri, Oct 22, 1:14PM EST JohnnieA Originally, Cleveland... Last 25 yrs Phoenix Az. Got 'Really' tied of the snow. 876 Fri, Oct 22, 1:14PM EST old-timer Fear...how's the wife? 877 Fri, Oct 22, 1:15PM EST old-timer John..heading to AZ. next year to do some mountain biking in Sedona.... 878 Fri, Oct 22, 1:16PM EST fear SHES OK they will bio After WE get back from MN 879 Fri, Oct 22, 1:16PM EST JohnnieA Real nice country up there. Wife and I were there last year for our 22nd. 880 Fri, Oct 22, 1:17PM EST old-timer Think Positive fear! 881 Fri, Oct 22, 1:19PM EST old-timer John.. I'd also like to take in Grand Canyon and maybe Moab ....Second childhood you could say!! 882 Fri, Oct 22, 1:21PM EST JohnnieA Sounds like a great trip. If you get to PHX, stop by and give the SSS and Ergo basses a try. The more evaluations I get the better...... 883 Fri, Oct 22, 1:21PM EST old-timer Gotta go...talk again later.. 884 Fri, Oct 22, 1:22PM EST JohnnieA later........ 885 Fri, Oct 22, 1:22PM EST fear WE ARE , when she starts worrin I'll play her favorite tune I cane up with. and if that don't work we'll go to the bed room!! 886 Fri, Oct 22, 1:23PM EST fear BY O T I type kinda slow. 887 Fri, Oct 22, 1:35PM EST fear Johnnie on a neck through are the sides held on with "biscuts" or tong and groove? 888 Fri, Oct 22, 1:40PM EST JohnnieA fear>> not sure, never did a neck-thru. There are some really good sites for building with Q&A sections. Sorry, I lost my bookmarks after updating a Netscape and lost the URLs, otherwise I'd turn you on.. 889 Fri, Oct 22, 1:41PM EST JohnnieA bailing out for a while --- catch you later....... 890 Fri, Oct 22, 1:41PM EST fear THanks We got new stuff to; Lost all 891 Fri, Oct 22, 1:50PM EST fear IT's lunch time. later e-one 892 Fri, Oct 22, 3:38PM EST anonymous ho ho ho 893 Fri, Oct 22, 4:10PM EST fear SLEEPY DUDE? Carvin said they use no biscuts or tong and groove on their neck-throughs, bodie sides and neck are flush fit and glued with clamps. 894 Fri, Oct 22, 4:28PM EST big g gang>If you need lyrics to the monster mash for upcoming Halloween parties go here. Valuable sites for learning new tunes. button button 895 Fri, Oct 22, 4:43PM EST Hotmama Click here for hot pics button 896 Fri, Oct 22, 4:52PM EST W.T.F.O. 897 Fri, Oct 22, 8:42PM EST anonymous i'm planning to put on my 73 fender jazz a rosewood neck, because i think it has a warm and softer feel than maple necks best for a jazz tone... Can someone give me some serious necks repl. address, best if in Europe cause i'm from Italy or...."laughs!!!"...just a solitary rosewood fender jazz neck? No matter if 70's or 80's. Please eventually write some words at e265@telemail.it Thanks and bye to all the bass people around the world Enrico from Italy 2:38 am 898 Fri, Oct 22, 9:06PM EST King BassBalls big g>>Thanks for the buttons. I believe they will come in handy. You never know what the guys I play with will drag up. 899 Sat, Oct 23, 4:01AM EST big g KBB>>>Monster mash has a bridge!!! Has anyone seen the bridge??? Got my hands on my strat tonight, gosh I'm glad I play bass. The guys are trying talk me into playing G*&tar for a whole set. Not unless the geetar player starts practicin BASS. Got to have some bottom. Looks like lowlifers gonna make our jam tomorrow, looking forward to it. KBB>>>>We even do "Running Bear" LOL 900 Sat, Oct 23, 1:00PM EST anonymous I'm just trying to find the bridge... 901 Sat, Oct 23, 4:42PM EST Where is that confounded bridge.. 902 Sun, Oct 24, 0:43AM EST anonymous hello? 903 Sun, Oct 24, 11:51AM EST Warren Murchie Editor/Publisher Real Music Magazines There is a new magazine out there for bass players. This new venture's first issue will contain articles with Michael Manring, Chris Squire, Tony Levin, Orin Isaacs, Adam Nitti and tons of others, both electric and acoustic. The best part??? Except for the cost of mailing (about $2) per issue it's actually free!!! In fact the first issue will be free to anyone who asks for it, and we'll pay the postage. So whaddaya think?!?!?! Write is with your snail mail address and we'll send you the first copy, no obligation, no tricks. Oh yeah sure, we want you to come on board as a subscriber if you like what you see, but even if you do, the only cost is the postage. Not too bad eh??? Anyway, e-mail us at real@golden.net and the mag is yours. The first issue will be available the end of the first week of November. Remember real@golden.net for Real Music Magazines first issue of Canadian BassPlayer. Don't worry, I imagine you think we'll be shipping you a mag full of Eskimos playing P Basses, but nope, I just had to call it something, and I'm Canadian, so get off my back!! Remember a Free Bass Magazine. And now for something completely different... . 904 Sun, Oct 24, 12:46AM EST Jim Jamb Waren ARE You a salesman or what?9e.g. do you, Mr. Murchie Play the bass?Sorry if I sound crass But, Can you play an instr.If so your rag may be worth checking out 905 Sun, Oct 24, 12:54AM EST Jim Jamb Anyhow Good morning All! The friday night jazz gig was a blas. Iv'e forgoten how much I really dig Live jazz performances.The best part was the gig was two blocks from JJ Cagneys My rock/blues house gig.You should have seen the look on those kids who stopped in and heard me playing jazz LOL 906 Sun, Oct 24, 12:55AM EST Jim Jamb Well gotta go see ya! 907 Tue, Oct 26, 6:04PM EST 908 Tue, Oct 26, 6:23PM EST test 909 Tue, Oct 26, 6:24PM EST Once again, "Thanks Bassman" 910 Tue, Oct 26, 6:53PM EST anonymous test 911 Tue, Oct 26, 6:56PM EST bassman Now just to fix this scroll back problem... BTW guys and gals stay tuned for a new addition to this chat site, I am working on a truely real-time chat is addition to this archive type chat. 912 Tue, Oct 26, 7:19PM EST Mr. Bass Hi bassman, really grateful to you for setting up this chat, all great people here. Can't wait to see what you have cookin! 913 Tue, Oct 26, 9:17PM EST big g bassman comes to the rescue. Ditto above!!! 914 Tue, Oct 26, 11:01PM EST lowlifer You got in Big G. 8>) Had a hell of a time at Fran's Bday jam. 915 Wed, Oct 27, 9:31AM EST anonymous test 916 Wed, Oct 27, 10:52AM EST anonymous hello 917 Wed, Oct 27, 10:53AM EST lewis anyone home 918 Wed, Oct 27, 10:54AM EST lewis hello? 919 Wed, Oct 27, 10:59AM EST hello leis 920 Wed, Oct 27, 11:00AM EST hello lewis 921 Wed, Oct 27, 11:00AM EST fear Sittin in the work place , thinkin its a drag. Lissin to the bossman, it just aint my bag. He thinks hes king , you know yhats my que! GOnna meet the boys on BASS WEB TOO !!!! Morning all, Exelent Job bassman!! ("We love you man") WHO Wants the next verse?? 922 Wed, Oct 27, 12:52AM EST JohnnieA fear>> I didn't hear anything from Dave.... 923 Wed, Oct 27, 1:31PM EST Fear He came over and picked up what you sent to me. Hes ok with the time frame. ADD a verse John! 924 Wed, Oct 27, 1:34PM EST Fear I gotta go ! duty calls. 925 Wed, Oct 27, 1:48PM EST bluesbass Anyone into Sadowsky basses? 926 Wed, Oct 27, 2:06PM EST Yes, somebody let me out! 927 Wed, Oct 27, 2:57PM EST old-timer bassman.....thanks and we're all with you...a real-time chat would be excellent..looking forward to talking straight-up with our commrads-in-bass.... 928 Wed, Oct 27, 2:59PM EST old-timer bluesbass...what are you looking for in particular...sound ..feel.. nuances? ie. Sadowsky basses.. 929 Wed, Oct 27, 3:01PM EST old-timer How's things Fear...big b...john a.... 930 Wed, Oct 27, 3:05PM EST old-timer Give me your most influencal(sp.) bass player for walking blues lines...old-pre disco and new-after disco....guy's? Let's have some thoughts out there... 931 Wed, Oct 27, 3:33PM EST JohnnieA old-timer>> fraid I'm not much for names... but I've always liked Morrison's Moon Dance and Stormy Monday lines. disco! I went underground during that part of the 70's........ 932 Wed, Oct 27, 4:18PM EST King BassBalls Berry Oakley was one hell of a blues bassist. 933 Wed, Oct 27, 5:19PM EST Funk Knutz Pre disco would have to be a toss up. Ray Brown/Ron Carter. P.S.- >Old Timer/Johnnie A.- I play several old basses in addition to my Conklin. Hayman 40/40, Phantom -B hollowbody longhorn, Kay w-funky spank-o-matic metal covered pickups, Mosrite 8-string (Only one I've ever seen-it too is a hollow body. These babies are usually bi-amped through two Traynor Bassmaster amps into Mesa Boogie Ported 15 and 2x10 w/tweeter. I love my collection, and they all get played. Almost forgot to mention the hot rodded Hofner which is actually a solid body w/rail pickups. Each bass serves a separate and distint purpose. 934 Wed, Oct 27, 5:21PM EST Funk Knutz (SIC)Should be distinct-though several of the sounds are quite distant w/enough reverb. 935 Wed, Oct 27, 5:26PM EST that IS sic 936 Wed, Oct 27, 6:16PM EST fear YEA! like whale noises, very distant and distinct!They sound awesome live! NO one wants to add on to the Brownsville station parody? I've always liked marsion boogy too! ARE their any good music stores in Albuqerque New Mexico? If any thing I'll get a hat or tee shirt. That Ripper is going to be ok! the neck is still stright! But the finish on it is "sticky" like uncured or unshaken varnish.This will HAVE to go! I'm gonna toung oil it after its stripped and sanded baby butt smooth, IT sounded supriseingly good before I took it apart. I"M out! 937 Wed, Oct 27, 6:35PM EST Homer Simpson There's a new Mexico? 938 Wed, Oct 27, 6:38PM EST Homer Simpson I have seen Palatino's, Cremona, and Englehart URBs pretty cheap on places like ebay. Anybody got any praise or condemnation about these URBs 939 Wed, Oct 27, 6:39PM EST Homer Simpson Guess I'll check back later. 940 Wed, Oct 27, 6:41PM EST Homer Simpson 941 Wed, Oct 27, 6:41PM EST Homer Simpson woohoo 942 Wed, Oct 27, 6:46PM EST Rbacker Thanks Bassman, Looking foward to the upgrade. 943 Wed, Oct 27, 6:49PM EST Rbacker Had to pass up a $300 fretless Fender last week, waiting for the wife to get out of school and working again. It was the Mexican version and seemed pretty nice. Guy at work said he could fix any problems that might have been hidden, He says most of the work is in the setup anyway as the cutting is done primarily by CNC machines. Hope all is well with everybody. 944 Wed, Oct 27, 7:00PM EST crimins Old timer > let's gp waaaay back to influences on walking bass lines - Chas Chandler with The Animals. Once you get past "House of the Rising Sun" & "We Gotta Get OUt of This Place" he played some pretty cool (at the time - early to mid-sixties) walking bass on such tunes as "Blue Feelin'", "Talkin' 'Bout You" etc. Find their first album - "The Animals" and check it out. Of course, Sir Paul did a fair amount of walking himself back then - "All My Lovin'". 945 Wed, Oct 27, 8:10PM EST Mr. Bass Jim Fielder of BS&T had some nice lines. 946 Wed, Oct 27, 8:44PM EST ojeb The urb's homer mentioned aren't very good basses(they spray paint the necks on the Engleharts to look like ebony),check around for a decent carved bass. I've had real good luck with Kay basses you can find them for a good price you just need to look around to find one.A fter you buy an urb invest in a good set up and a decent set of strings. Good luck! Bassman ditto.........thanks for your work. 947 Wed, Oct 27, 11:03PM EST Funk Knutz >Homer- I agree w/ojeb, but I would like to add a couple of name brands to keep an eye out for as well. American Standard (yeah, yeah....like the toilet seat), an King. These are often found on EBAY as well. I actually prefer the American Standard, followed closely by a 40's Kay, (by the 60's they sucked and eventually became Engelhardt), And the King usually has a sound akin to a Kay from the 50's. 948 Wed, Oct 27, 11:14PM EST Funk Knutz As usual, late to the party again. Oh well. Bassman you are THE MAN. Who Da Man? He Da Man. Bassman Jam? Yes he can. 949 Wed, Oct 27, 11:42PM EST anonymousandthensome Was just listening to Simon Phillips (drummer), man, if you can play bass to keep up with him you are doing good! I noticed Jan Hammer took the bass chair instead of a bassist on Jeff Becks There and Back, what was up with that? 950 Thu, Oct 28, 0:02AM EST anonymousandthensome I goofed.. Mo Foster does play on 4 of the eight cuts, and he does do a hell of a fast walk on Space Boogie,(always thought that was Hammer) check it out! 951 Thu, Oct 28, 10:03AM EST fear Not tring to be funny , On slaping, I've read/watched, still quite can't get it to go "thump thump klinkity klinkity klank pinkity pinkity klank, Say it fast,its as neer as I can describe it. The (itys) seem to be the problem. Any sugs? Trying to go slow through the moves dosn't help. It seams the speed generates the volisity to create the tones Any neet little tricks out there to share? Thanks 952 Thu, Oct 28, 10:09AM EST fear Thats "Velocity to cerate" not volisity to creat 953 Thu, Oct 28, 12:02AM EST big g Fretless players!! How many of you sing and play? As was my experience, it was great to see the article in BP last month when Les Claypool state he played fretted on this album because he sings, and his intonation played hell with his vocals. fear>I dont slap much, but one of the things I was told, is too work on getting the thump an pop at equal volume levels. I found I had to lighten way up. Stu>>Could you weigh in on this?? 954 Thu, Oct 28, 12:28AM EST Sam T Whats you guys advice on looking for a good bass teacher for a new player 955 Thu, Oct 28, 12:50AM EST Fear Sam T >If someone would do it for free! I'de go with him/her. they would be WAY into playing,thats what you would look for, not some one looking at your wallet. Audition THEM first! See how "rounded" of a player they really are, can they explane what they are doing. I would do it for free... well, and maby a sandwich too. 956 Thu, Oct 28, 12:57AM EST Fear Speeking of sandwich,it's lunch time! Thanks BIG G, I'M NOT A SLAPER EATHER.But would be good to know how correctly.Later E-one, I'm off to N.M 957 Thu, Oct 28, 1:53PM EST old-timer Hey guys..What a pleasure to talk with you people and get intellegent and well researched(experience,will do that!)answers on your bass playing influences!! 958 Thu, Oct 28, 1:59PM EST old-timer crimins...you hit it right on the head...Chas was one of the most underrated invasion bassists, along with Paul Samwell-Smith(Yardbirds) and McCartney, of course. 959 Thu, Oct 28, 2:03PM EST old-timer Johnny a....I only used disco as a reference point in that it represented the "Dark Ages" for bass players....(synth bass and tape loops!!!) 960 Thu, Oct 28, 2:10PM EST old-timer King bb and Mr. bass....great choices! Funk Knutz...interesting choices...your influences seem to run with the stand-up basses,and it is great to have a bass collection isn't it? 961 Thu, Oct 28, 4:15PM EST Grump Mr. Bass, I will be up in your neck of the woods this weekend and hopefully will have Sat. afternoon off. I'm going to try and go to Daddy's Junky Music in West Hartford. Was wondering if you ever dealt with them. Got my Fretless back and my luck the d string was dead. The other three strings sound great. 962 Thu, Oct 28, 7:32PM EST Mr. Bass Grump> I have dealt with the Daddys in Orange CT, but not with the one in Hartford, a little too far north for me. I have traded in some really aged gear and they gave me exactly what I thought it was worth. We were both happy. They figure a trade and a little cash towards something you really want is a homerun for them. They dont deal much with high end equipment in Orange, mainly used and your less expensive lines. I think thier inventory is similiar in Hartford, you may find a deal on some older gear. Good Luck and have fun! 963 Thu, Oct 28, 8:03PM EST blind lemon hello 964 Fri, Oct 29, 0:20AM EST parm Hello everyone 965 Fri, Oct 29, 0:21AM EST parm I'm kinda new to the bass I've only been playing it for about 2 years now 966 Fri, Oct 29, 0:21AM EST parm anyone there 967 Fri, Oct 29, 0:22AM EST Thumpin >Old timer, I see you're from Mass., I grew up there (Boston). Where are you from in the Bay State? 968 Fri, Oct 29, 2:50AM EST g spew whats up people 969 Fri, Oct 29, 2:52AM EST g spew anyone have anything on a ADA MB-1 970 Fri, Oct 29, 3:38AM EST anonymous g spew> I have had mine for several years now, they have mixed tubes with solid state, if you just want to plug in and play this may not be the unit for you unless you like the 29 pre set sounds it comes with(I didn't). If you have the time and are into tailoring your sound by setting all the different parameters like, contour, lo gain, hi gain, chorus, parametric EQ, compression, then I recommend it. 971 Fri, Oct 29, 3:38AM EST anonymous Tha was me Mr.Bass 972 Fri, Oct 29, 3:39AM EST Mr. Bass It's late I am going to bed 973 Fri, Oct 29, 10:39AM EST JohnnieA TGIF!!! 974 Fri, Oct 29, 10:50AM EST big g Gmorning Johnnie. Just what I thought, no singing fretless players?? 975 Fri, Oct 29, 11:26AM EST JohnnieA Hey big g.. how's by you this fine morning?..... 976 Fri, Oct 29, 11:50AM EST big g I gotta box up the 360 bottom for the trucking co. Went to a local body shop and got a huge piece of cardboard to make it. Gonna UPS the top. Now I'm debating takin the money and getting, either a super redhead or a eden metro. Figure I'd sell the Swr workingman 300 and have enough to make the swap. What ya think? 977 Fri, Oct 29, 12:25AM EST JohnnieA For the buck per watt, it sounds like the Carvin is the way to go! 978 Fri, Oct 29, 12:52AM EST JohnnieA Just loaded AOL instant messenger... here's the real time chat we may be lookin for.... 979 Fri, Oct 29, 1:35PM EST anonymous The other day someone told me that Billy Sheehan died of a drug OD. Does anyone know if this is true or if it's just a rumor? E-mail me at jours@conairgroup.com. Thanks!! 980 Fri, Oct 29, 2:15PM EST old-timer thumpin...about 50 miles west of Boston on Rt. 9...how's your memory of the area? 981 Fri, Oct 29, 2:22PM EST old-timer parm...hang around here a while...you'll pick up a lot...and it's free-that means you get your money's worth! Here's your first piece of free advice...pick up your bass everyday,even if it's only a couple of minutes! 982 Fri, Oct 29, 2:24PM EST old-timer Mr. bass...I take it your close,if not in New England? 983 Fri, Oct 29, 2:31PM EST old-timer Hey guy's ..what are your thought's on some of today's bassist's...Lesard from Dave Matthews,Zender from Jamiroquai, Kanal from No Doubt...? Who's out there you like? PPPLEASEE dont say Flea! 984 Fri, Oct 29, 3:59PM EST big g Bobby Sheehan RIP :^( Johnnie A> nothing personal, but I wont deal with AOL. They do provide a very nice high tech coaster though. 985 Fri, Oct 29, 5:24PM EST crimins Big G> sorry I'm late, but I sing and play fretless sometimes. But my eyballs are on that fretboard pretty much 100% of the time when I do. 986 Sat, Oct 30, 0:02AM EST Funk Knutz >Old Timer- I used those guys as my "Walking " influences for pre disco. As you can tell by my collection, I need to get several different sounds on any given day. Other pre-disco influences include the likes of Noel Redding, James Jamerson, and Rocco Prestia. Disco (time frame reference only) would be Bootsy Collins, Stanley Clarke, and Rocco Prestia. Post Disco would be Jaco Pastorius, Vic Wooten, and again Rocco Prestia. Rocco has really been around, and he just never seems to drop a beat. If my poor collection didn't see as much use as it does I'd probably sell it off piecemeal. I once sold my upright because of financial reasons (150 year old Tyrolean) because I needed the money desperately. Even though the price I got was more than fair, I regret that sale. Have been searching for a replacement, but prices are too high relative to the quality available for now. 987 Sat, Oct 30, 0:04AM EST Funk Knutz It is nice to have a collection though isn't it? Wish some of the younger crowd could know the shear joy of playing a Hayman, Mosrite, or Shergold. 988 Sat, Oct 30, 0:28AM EST big g Whos giging Saturday night?? Where?? What? We be playing at the Buckhorn Lodge. It will be a Zoo. Fortunately there is a rail between the stage and the fairly small dance floor. I'm gonna be roamin the crowd. First gig wireless. The more I use it, the more I like it. The freedom at last weekends jam was the nuts. Just had to change the first battery. Figured I got at least 16 hours on it before the light came on. 989 Sat, Oct 30, 3:37AM EST anonymous test 990 Sat, Oct 30, 3:45AM EST anonymous test #2 991 Sat, Oct 30, 3:46AM EST anonymous test 992 Sat, Oct 30, 3:49AM EST anonymous test 993 Sat, Oct 30, 3:50AM EST anonymous Fixed it!!! 994 Sat, Oct 30, 3:51AM EST Bassman OK, now the scroll back is fixed 995 Sat, Oct 30, 3:52AM EST Bassman Last Test for now! 996 Sat, Oct 30, 5:46AM EST lowlifer Thanks Bassman. 8>) It's great not to have to wait for the page to load now. What all of you think of the AKG W2000 uhf wireless? If I'm going to buy one I want to get one that I'll keep forever. 997 Sat, Oct 30, 6:01AM EST lowlifer Just got home from a gig. I moved my truck over by the front door to load my amp etc. when a off duty bartender told me to move my truck so he could leave. I told him to go out the other exit. He then told me that he worked there and if I didn't move right then we'd never work there again. I just shined him on and got my stuff to put in the truck. Then he said he was going to run into my truck. I told him to go for it. The owner told him to leave us alone and booked us for some more gigs. And he thanked me for not kicking the jerks ass. Why is it the short little drunks want to pick fights with people a foot taller than them? That jerk was trying to write a check with his aligator mouth that his hummingbird ass couldn't cash!! God a hate drunk fools. 998 Sat, Oct 30, 10:34AM EST big g Bassman> you da man. Its working like it used to. lowlifer>>you showed great restraint. I've got my own "dealing with drunks at a gig story" For several years my band played the Jeepers Jamboree. This gig is in the remote Desolation Wilderness and can only be gotten to by 4X4 or helicopter. We met at Loon Lake and flew all our equipment in. Imagine 1400 drunk jeep jockies with nearly no supervision. It can get a little crazy at times. Our band set up on a stage about 4' tall backed up to a 30 foot tall rock formation. We ran off generators that put out about 75% of the 110 volts needed. On one occasion, just after we started our first set, one obviosly intoxicated jeeper came up and requested a slow song. He had spied one of the very few single ladies and wanted to dance with her. We played his song, but someone else beat him to the dance. He comes right back and wants another slow song. I told him it would be a few numbers later. He becomes beligerant, and starts messing with my foot pedals. I was containing my anger as much as possible until he pushes my mic stand in to the neck of my bass. At this point I want to take this guy OUT (I came real close to smacking him with the butt end of the mic stand but didnt). I called for security, but no one shows up. I figure at the break, I'll take care of it, but I didn't have to wait that long. 5 minutes later the guy slips on a log and falls face first onto the cement slab used as a dance floor. Bloodied his nose. I turned to band and said "theres a right from the bassplayer". 15 minutes after that he walks out in to the shadows to relieve himself and slipped on a boulder and hit so hard I could hear the thud up on the stage. Told the boys "and a left". Needless to say he got what you would call "Instant Karma". And the band played on!! 999 Sat, Oct 30, 1:18PM EST old-timer Good stories guys ! Bassman....rock-on dude,thanks for your time and effort on this site! 1000 Sat, Oct 30, 1:26PM EST old-timer Funk Knutz...I hear that and have to say it is too bad these young guys don't have the chance to have a collection of "toys". But, in all fairness, it takes paying your "dues" to get the collection ! I paid mine...I'm sure you payed your's..... 1001 Sat, Oct 30, 4:56PM EST King BassBalls I have only sold one of the basses I have bought in the last 30yrs. It was an epiphone from the 60's. If I had to, I suppose I could part with them all except my Jazz, Precision, AB20, and the fretless I put together with Zolla parts (nice neck and body). I went with the Duncan Basslines Lightning rods. I'm very pleased with the way it turned out. 1002 Sat, Oct 30, 5:02PM EST King BassBalls big g>>I don't sing much anyway (mostly backup). I don't gig with the fretless that much either. I used to take it when we played Pink Floyd's "Hey You" and a couple others. We've kinda evolved away from any fretless songs right now. 1003 Sat, Oct 30, 7:45PM EST Funk Knutz >King BB- Look me up when you want to sell. Duncans are a fine choice for replacements though. I've souped up a few basses w/Duncan Pickups, and Pre amps. That stuff is The Nazz. You wouldn't by chance have a Shergold 8-string your dying to part with would you? 1004 Sat, Oct 30, 7:46PM EST Funk Knutz >King BB- Look me up when you want to sell. Duncans are a fine choice for replacements though. I've souped up a few basses w/Duncan Pickups, and Pre amps. That stuff is The Nazz. You wouldn't by chance have a Shergold 8-string your dying to part with would you? 1005 Sat, Oct 30, 9:10PM EST Mr. Bass old timer> I am in Milford, CT....One of my first gigs was for a notorious motor cycle club in a big city in a very nasty part of town. A huge dude comes up and tells he is "Going to try my bass out", all I envision is this gigantic belt buckle scratching the heck out of my brand new Rickenbacker 4001 bass, I tell him I'd rather he didn't, he tells me "I'll be wearing the bass as a hat if he doesnt get to try it out", he was drunk. He won that battle. The leader of the pack got word of this guy bothering the band and proceded to kick the mess out of this guy. I think it would have been easier if he just took off the belt. 1006 Sun, Oct 31, 0:47AM EST Azbug Hey guys! It's great to be back. My little ol' computer couldn't handle whatever it was that this page was doing for the last month, or so. It would shut down my browser when I tried to come aboard...Bummer! Thanks to the mighty Bassman for his help and way cool page! Thanks again for giving me the heads up big g. 1007 Sun, Oct 31, 0:54AM EST Azbug Just added another to the collection...I played, fell in love with and grudgingly broke out the wallet for one of the new Washburn AB35's. It's a fretless 5, tobacco sunburst. It's the first 35" scale I've owned in awhile. That extra inch seems like a foot! The neck is so sweet I just had to have it. If you ever get the chance, try one out. The price tag doesn't wipe you out either. They are listed at around $800-900. 1008 Sun, Oct 31, 6:32AM EST Bassman Ok Guys, it is finally done. BWRC is all fixed with the correct initial scroll and scroll back fixed. I have also added a RealTime Bass chat to the site. Go to button Thanks for all your help, in identifing the problem(s). Rock on!!! 1009 Sun, Oct 31, 6:33AM EST Bassman final test 1010 Sun, Oct 31, 6:44AM EST bassman Now that is wierd, when I click chat, I don't see my message, until I use scroll back... (Well, guys one last little thing to fix, should be corrected soon) 1011 Sun, Oct 31, 7:18AM EST anonymous test 1012 Sun, Oct 31, 7:19AM EST anonymous 1013 Sun, Oct 31, 7:19AM EST Mr. Bass Welcome back Az! 1014 Sun, Oct 31, 7:21AM EST anonymous 1015 Sun, Oct 31, 7:38AM EST anonymous 1016 Sun, Oct 31, 7:40AM EST Bassman There!!! Fully functional!!! 1017 Sun, Oct 31, 8:32AM EST italian bassist hi! 1018 Sun, Oct 31, 8:36AM EST italian bassist there aren't anybody? 1019 Sun, Oct 31, 9:19AM EST anonymous No!..there arent anybody here, call back later 1020 Sun, Oct 31, 9:21AM EST Disco Boy Disco era had the best bass lines, Aint Nothing Stoppin Us Now: how many rockers could even pull that line off!, Bernard Edwards had sensational bass lines, Dont knock it until you try playing it! 1021 Sun, Oct 31, 9:24AM EST Disco Boy If you think about it Disco featured the bass, the bass was up front and it wasnt pedaling the A or E for a half hour while the guitarist 1022 Sun, Oct 31, 9:37AM EST "Rocker Boy" Azbug DB: Yes, Bernard Edwards is an excellent player. Ain't No Stopping Us Now is a cool line. Takes about three minutes to get figured out from the chart. Most "Rocker Boys" aren't interested in the repetitive, mundane, usually boring bass lines in most disco tunes. Disco also introduced, or brought around too keyboard bass and loops...sad day 1023 Sun, Oct 31, 9:40AM EST "Rocker Boy" Azbug last sentence should have read...:Too MANY keyboard bass lines and loops...still a sad, sad day. 1024 Sun, Oct 31, 10:54AM EST B.Gibb Wasn't "Disco Duck" one of the greatest basslines ever! 8^( 1025 Sun, Oct 31, 12:36AM EST Azbug Hey! Mr.B....How's life on the Right Coast? Getting the cold stuff yet? Watching the weather it looks as though you all are having an Indian Summer(?)... 1026 Sun, Oct 31, 12:47AM EST Disco Boy..Get your head out of your arse 1027 Sun, Oct 31, 1:35PM EST old-timer O.K....Who started this disco shit anyways? It was'nt hard enough to live through the first time ? You can count the good disco bass players on one hand....disco-boy...you have to agree at least with that? 1028 Sun, Oct 31, 3:12PM EST I think disco boy is a troll 1029 Sun, Oct 31, 4:52PM EST old-timer Disco boy...are you getting a feeling about something here....? I'm thinking you were not around for disco the first time! Those of us who were still have a bad taste as you can see!!! 1030 Sun, Oct 31, 4:57PM EST old-timer Were you around for disco....disco boy? There was a battle cry if you will, and I quote,"Disco Sucks", did you catch that? 1031 Sun, Oct 31, 4:59PM EST old-timer Let's get the subject back up to intellegent levels....anyone? 1032 Sun, Oct 31, 5:29PM EST King BassBalls Let me add my "disco sucks" to this thread. However I don't despise it as much as I despise rap. (c)rap grates on my nerves. 1033 Sun, Oct 31, 5:47PM EST King BassBalls Azbug>>I have a Washburn AB20 and I love mine. It just sits there begging to be picked up. I have played it almost every day since I bought it several years ago. Leave it out on a stand (unless you have little ones) and I bet you will pick it up most every day, even if only for a few minutes. Its usually the first thing I go for when I walk into my house. 1034 Sun, Oct 31, 8:28PM EST Mr. Bass Az> You are right, Its beautiful here right now. Watch, now that I said that, we will get a snow storm tomorrow! hehehe. Now, I want a Washburn!! 1035 Sun, Oct 31, 9:09PM EST Mr. Bass Tried the new Live Bass chat, its pretty cool, ran into the originator himself :bassman, he did a great job, try it out! 1036 Sun, Oct 31, 10:35PM EST Azbug KBB: I know what you mean. This thing has an awesome feel to it. The neck and fingerboard play better than alot of the top dollar Basses I've played. Mr.B: Get one! They are sahweet! The price is right as well. 1037 Sun, Oct 31, 10:56PM EST awilkinson@prodigy.net i need some amp advice-- i'm playing a fender jazz bass out of a fender bassman, but the lows are a little too muddy and the highs don't cut as much as i'd like. i like the vintage tube sound and i'm thinking of going to an ampeg. we play funk and jazzed heavily influenced by 70's funk, boogaloo, jazz and fusion. any recommendatoins for heads and/or cabinets? hit me awilkinson@prodigy.net 1038 Mon, Nov 1, 0:06AM EST High C I've got a great tube ( well, OK, it's a hybrid ) head. It's the Mesa-boogie M2000 and it rocks! You have to see and hear one of these things if you get the chance. It's a little pricey : I think new it's around $1600 , but maybe you could find one used. 1039 Mon, Nov 1, 0:10AM EST High C That M2000 isn't actually a tube head ; it does have a tube pre-amp and a solid state pre-amp. There's another tube in between the pre-amp stage and the power amp stage. The power section is mosfet. 600 watts ( that's what I'm talking about )I think it sounds incredible! You can get anything out of it. It does have a lot of knobs on it, though . 1040 Mon, Nov 1, 7:40AM EST Bassman Hey guys don't forget to check out the NEW RealTime Bass chat at button or button 1041 Mon, Nov 1, 11:16AM EST test 1042 Mon, Nov 1, 11:51AM EST JohnnieA Read Carol Kays' post at TBL about the handful of studio musicians who had actually laid down the original tracks for popular hits in the 50's, 60's and early 70's, and thought that would be an interesting thread for this chat as well. When I took bass lessons in late '64 and '65, my teacher told me about a session he had with this new singer in the Cleveland area. They had brought in some brass and string players from the Cleveland symphony along with a drummer and gu@#$r player and cut a tune called "Time Wont Let Me". This was late '65 and in early '66 the tune was released in the Cleveland area under the band name "The Outsiders". OF course this tune went on to be a clssic and is still played on the oldies stations. In '67, the band I was in needed a lead guitar and auditioned this guy who turned out to be the player who did the lead on that single. Al Austin was his name and consequently we did "Time Wont Let Me" perfectly. Unfortunately, Al was involved in a car accident on his way to a gig and died from injuries. Still flash on Al every time I hear that tune on the oldies stations. Sonny Geracie(sp?) was the singer, and the band, "The Outsiders", was formed after the single became a hit. Anyone else have a story of studio musicians doing the original takes for a hit tune, yet getting limited notoriety? Later......... 1043 Mon, Nov 1, 12:41AM EST NewAtTheGame... Hello Anyone! Do you know where I can find bassguitar-tabs with belonging MIDI-files ? 1044 Mon, Nov 1, 3:55PM EST ibanezEDC700 hey guys 1045 Mon, Nov 1, 5:00PM EST renato algu m do brasil ??? 1046 Mon, Nov 1, 6:18PM EST debbie do dallas? 1047 Mon, Nov 1, 6:19PM EST dippity do da? 1048 Mon, Nov 1, 6:20PM EST old-timer Hey Johnny A. How ya doin? Got a good one for you...back in 64 we were in a recording studio in Revere, MA. outside Boston waiting for our time. Meanwhile we were watching the band inside...you may have heard of them "King Curtis", there was this skinny colored guy playing a righty guitar upsidedown lefty...want to guess who he was? Three years later it blew me away when an album came out called "Are You Experienced" Wish I knew then what I know now!!!! 1049 Mon, Nov 1, 6:29PM EST old-timer Also speaking about learning bass back in the early 60's-does the name Bob Bogle ring a bell? I have to say that guy unwittingly tought me the most important lesson in playing bass...disipline and attention to detail in a bass line. I think you know him- but for anyone else he was the bass player for the Ventures. Learn the notes before you learn the runs... 1050 Mon, Nov 1, 7:06PM EST anonymous o.t.>"skinny colored guy"? What color was he? You wouldn't happen to be a southern boy would you? 1051 Mon, Nov 1, 7:10PM EST Bass Dude 1052 Mon, Nov 1, 7:11PM EST Bass Dude what type of basses you guys play? 1053 Mon, Nov 1, 7:12PM EST Bass Dude I gotta left handed Yamaha RBX260 (yay) 1054 Mon, Nov 1, 7:12PM EST zappa heya 1055 Mon, Nov 1, 7:13PM EST zappa just got a rob allen mb-2...anyone heard of it? 1056 Mon, Nov 1, 7:13PM EST Bass Dude talking to myself is fun 1057 Mon, Nov 1, 7:13PM EST Bass Dude nope 1058 Mon, Nov 1, 7:13PM EST zappa just got a rob allen mb-2...anyone heard of it? 1059 Mon, Nov 1, 7:14PM EST Bass Dude how many strings? 1060 Mon, Nov 1, 7:14PM EST zappa oops 1061 Mon, Nov 1, 7:14PM EST zappa 4 string fretless 1062 Mon, Nov 1, 7:14PM EST Bass Dude heh I do that alot too 1063 Mon, Nov 1, 7:15PM EST Bass Dude cool. I might be getting a fretless pretty soon. 1064 Mon, Nov 1, 7:15PM EST Bubba hello 1065 Mon, Nov 1, 7:15PM EST Bass Dude 1066 Mon, Nov 1, 7:15PM EST zappa i have a pedulla buzz too...sold my fretted basses. 1067 Mon, Nov 1, 7:15PM EST grump evening 1068 Mon, Nov 1, 7:16PM EST zappa hi bubba 1069 Mon, Nov 1, 7:16PM EST Bubba hullo 1070 Mon, Nov 1, 7:16PM EST zappa is bass frontiers worth getting? 1071 Mon, Nov 1, 7:16PM EST zappa subscribing? 1072 Mon, Nov 1, 7:16PM EST Bass Dude hey Grump 1073 Mon, Nov 1, 7:16PM EST Bass Dude I like Bass Player Magazine better 1074 Mon, Nov 1, 7:17PM EST zappa i get that already 1075 Mon, Nov 1, 7:17PM EST zappa i hear some complain about BP, but, i like it 1076 Mon, Nov 1, 7:17PM EST Bass Dude I've never read Bass Frontiers though 1077 Mon, Nov 1, 7:17PM EST Bass Dude try buying one at a magazine store first before you subscribe 1078 Mon, Nov 1, 7:18PM EST zappa good idea 1079 Mon, Nov 1, 7:18PM EST Bass Dude hmm I guess Bubba left. 1080 Mon, Nov 1, 7:19PM EST Grump How's everyone tongiht? 1081 Mon, Nov 1, 7:19PM EST Bass Dude I'm pretty good. How about you? 1082 Mon, Nov 1, 7:21PM EST Grump Just bought another bass this weekend. Bought a 82 G&L L1000 at Daddy's junky music in Ct. 1083 Mon, Nov 1, 7:21PM EST Bass Dude sounds nice 1084 Mon, Nov 1, 7:22PM EST Grump Got it for a good price,really liked the neck. 1085 Mon, Nov 1, 7:23PM EST Bass Dude I should look around pawn shops for used basses 1086 Mon, Nov 1, 7:24PM EST Grump It's the first red bass i've ever owned. Except for a EBO, but this is a lot "redder". 1087 Mon, Nov 1, 7:26PM EST Bass Dude i've always liked charcoal for the color of basses 1088 Mon, Nov 1, 7:26PM EST Bass Dude dark green is nice too 1089 Mon, Nov 1, 7:28PM EST Bass Dude oi I can't believe I'm talking to people about the color I like on basses... 1090 Mon, Nov 1, 7:30PM EST Bass Dude 1091 Mon, Nov 1, 7:30PM EST Bass Dude guess I'm going to be talking to myself again... 1092 Mon, Nov 1, 7:31PM EST Bass Dude I know! i'll make up another name and have a conversation! 1093 Mon, Nov 1, 7:31PM EST Les Claypool howdy 1094 Mon, Nov 1, 7:31PM EST Bass Dude MR. CLAYPOOL! I'M YOUR BIGGEST FAN! 1095 Mon, Nov 1, 7:31PM EST Les Claypool Really? Cool. 1096 Mon, Nov 1, 7:32PM EST Bass Dude ...hmm...trying to be my idle is hard...oh well 1097 Mon, Nov 1, 7:32PM EST Bass Dude sooomeeeonee talk toooo meeee! 1098 Mon, Nov 1, 7:32PM EST Grump Never had any luck finding basses in pawn shops. 1099 Mon, Nov 1, 7:33PM EST Bass Dude me neither. but Florida is a whacky state 1100 Mon, Nov 1, 7:34PM EST Really Good Bass Player Hello fellow bassists 1101 Mon, Nov 1, 7:34PM EST Bass Dude hi. Being 2 people at once is sort of fun... 1102 Mon, Nov 1, 7:35PM EST Grump only been to fla. once and that was to go to Disneyworld. 1103 Mon, Nov 1, 7:36PM EST Bass Dude hmm maybe someone that ISN'T me will come to the website...only 1 other person to talk to 1104 Mon, Nov 1, 7:36PM EST Grump Well you enjoy yourself and stay out of trouble. 1105 Mon, Nov 1, 7:36PM EST Bass Dude not much happens in Florida other than hurricanes 1106 Mon, Nov 1, 7:36PM EST Bass Dude I will. Nice talking to you. 1107 Mon, Nov 1, 7:40PM EST Bass Dude maybe this thread will get back onto bass guitars soon... 1108 Mon, Nov 1, 7:41PM EST Bass Dude Does anyone here play the bass left-handed here other than me? 1109 Mon, Nov 1, 7:46PM EST Bassman sure did do a great job setting up this site. 1110 Mon, Nov 1, 7:47PM EST Bass Dude yeah no kidding. I love it! 1111 Mon, Nov 1, 7:50PM EST Bass Dude ahh nooo I scrolled up about 500 messages and there was another Bass Dude! for now on, I am going to be... Dan The Bassist! 1112 Mon, Nov 1, 7:50PM EST Dan The Bassist so back to the leftie question. any left handed bassists out there? 1113 Mon, Nov 1, 7:56PM EST Dan The Bassist another question... what's the best type of strings for slapping? 1114 Mon, Nov 1, 7:59PM EST big g DTB >I hear alot of slappers like DRs. 1115 Mon, Nov 1, 8:38PM EST crimins Dan > I use D'Addario Prisms - stainless steel. 1116 Mon, Nov 1, 8:56PM EST Rbacker tried the live chat and am having a hard time figuring this out. Kinda used to this one as its the only one I have experience with. Hope all is well for everybody 1117 Mon, Nov 1, 10:10PM EST King BassBalls anonymous>>>I'm a white southern boy. Ever heard about the pot calling the kettle black. I don't think old timer meant any disrepect, but you did. 1118 Mon, Nov 1, 10:15PM EST Mr. Bass Hi KBB. ..>Grump I have a G&L 1000 in my collection too, I like the feel of the bass, I bought mine used also, but not from Daddy's 1119 Mon, Nov 1, 10:23PM EST King BassBalls Hello Mr. Bass>>How do you like your G&L. I've never played one. Seems like they would be very Fender like. Is that true? 1120 Mon, Nov 1, 10:35PM EST Mr. Bass KBB> Yes, It reminds me a lot of my Jazz bass, Leo knew what he was doing! 1121 Tue, Nov 2, 2:29AM EST MR. Angel hi!! 1122 Tue, Nov 2, 2:30AM EST MR. Angel They are some? 1123 Tue, Nov 2, 5:56AM EST droppedin Hi folks, anybody there? 1124 Tue, Nov 2, 7:05AM EST Disco Boy Are you trying to tell me that the 1 4 5's found in Rock aren't redundant? Dylan isnt mundane? That song by Pink Floyd that has the cash register ringing in it, that bass line doesnt get monotonous?(Money) I think you are prejudice of the people playing Disco and not the music itself. Yea a lot of Disco is crap but not all like you all suggest, I try and take the good out of any music and not blatantly say it sucks, you are musicians how could you be so closed minded? 1125 Tue, Nov 2, 7:44AM EST Dan The Bassist Hello people 1126 Tue, Nov 2, 7:56AM EST Anyone home? 1127 Tue, Nov 2, 8:03AM EST JohnnohJ hello 1128 Tue, Nov 2, 8:03AM EST Dan The Bassist 1129 Tue, Nov 2, 8:44AM EST King BassBalls Disco Boy>>Are you trying to tell me "Shake Your Booty" compares with "Blowing in the Wind"? Dylan is THE poet of our time. There is a lot better music out there than disco, so why should I waste my time sifting through disco crap in search of a good song when I just can put on "Dark Side of the Moon" and be done with it. 1130 Tue, Nov 2, 8:57AM EST King BassBalls Disco Boy>>Listen to "The Lemon Song" to see what can be done with the "redundant" 1-4-5. 1131 Tue, Nov 2, 9:42AM EST Disco Boy sucks 1132 Tue, Nov 2, 10:04AM EST JohnnieA old-timer>>> Great story... Here' another... Our gig in '67 started @ 10:00, so we would visit this venue just down the street to listen to this local group that started @ 8:00. It was a kid place called the Hullabaloo Club. The name of the band was the 'James Gang'. 1133 Tue, Nov 2, 10:30AM EST big g Now theres a real brave soul. Calling someone names and cant post his own. Please, take this name calling to kindergarden.com Johnnie A. we opened in the 60s for Grace Slick and the Great Society. Backed the Coasters. In 73 we opened for Heart. I won't go into my impression of Nancy, suffice to say I have NEVER owned one of their albums. 1134 Tue, Nov 2, 10:46AM EST JohnnieA big g>>> Yeah, I hear ya on the Heart impression. Had a simular incident with a guy who came to see us in the 60's as well. It was Tommy Roe, this guy was so full of himself it was disgusting. Never cared for his "bubble gum" style anyway. 1135 Tue, Nov 2, 10:52AM EST JohnnieA On the other hand, had some great experiences... partied with Tommy James and the Shondells in the early 70's. Great bunch... And played with and went to high school with the Raspberries. Played with them when they were a band called the Choir. 1136 Tue, Nov 2, 10:59AM EST big g Elvin Bishop was very gracious when I met him the first time. He stuck up a local promoter for more "blow" before he would go on stage about 15 years ago. I hear he's finally cleaned up his act. We had a surf band in the 60s and were trying out for the County Fair battle of the Bands. The luck of the draw had us following a band named the "Stick Shifts" (Sylvester Stone leader). They came out with horn section doing dance steps, just smoked the audition. I went to the judges and told them my amp blew up. No way was I going to follow that. 1137 Tue, Nov 2, 4:12PM EST Dan The Bassist anybody home? 1138 Tue, Nov 2, 4:22PM EST Dan The Bassist guess not 1139 Tue, Nov 2, 5:51PM EST Disco Boy KBB> I could do without the name calling, I think KC sucks too, I am talking about Narada Michael Walden, Cheryl Lynn, Pleasure, Rick James, even Brickhouse was fun to play as a bassist (redundant,but fun), its not your cup of tea thats fine, you chose to close your ears thats fine too. I learn from many sources. If you are above a certain genre, you must really be the stuff. Post a sound byte. 1140 Tue, Nov 2, 5:56PM EST anonymous 1141 Tue, Nov 2, 5:56PM EST anonymous how are you all 1142 Tue, Nov 2, 5:57PM EST auzzie bass man any one home 1143 Tue, Nov 2, 5:57PM EST auzzie bass man bye then 1144 Tue, Nov 2, 5:58PM EST auzzie bass man email col03@ballaratsc.vic.edu.au smone write me 1145 Tue, Nov 2, 7:20PM EST Dan the Bassist anyone home? 1146 Tue, Nov 2, 7:21PM EST D.B.>ouch!That smarts! 1147 Tue, Nov 2, 7:30PM EST King BassBalls Disco Boy>>Did I call you a name? I don't have means to post a sound byte. Disco was all about dance, the music was just a necessity. Disco, rap, and DJs have made it harder for real musicans to get work. I haven't closed my ears, I just haven't heard a disco song that compares with Yes or Cream or Zeppelin or Uriah Heep or etc....You're the one who came on here telling how redundant and mundane rock is. Open your own ears. Let's hear your sound byte. 1148 Tue, Nov 2, 7:43PM EST D.B. KBB> I was only defending that music style because someone said it was the "Dark Ages" of bass playing, I try and see the positive light of something rather than the negative, Bernard Edwards was not in the dark ages, try and come up with a line half as catchy and syncopated as any of his, my comparison to Rock was to say that not all rock had the most superior bass lines all of the time. 1149 Tue, Nov 2, 7:50PM EST old-timer Hi guys...well it worked ! Disco boy..did'nt I tell you some people were scared by "that" music !It really left some serious bad taste in a lot of us! But,bottom line is-we are all bottom liners...No? 1150 Tue, Nov 2, 7:51PM EST King BassBalls DB>>>Peace 1151 Tue, Nov 2, 7:55PM EST old-timer KBB. As Wayne(as in world) would say "Rock-on King" You and DB got a conversation going,although testy, atleast it is intellegent compared to a couple of gu&^%ar players!!! 1152 Tue, Nov 2, 7:59PM EST old-timer Did you try out the live chat yet? Very cool !! Hope to catch up with all of you on it sooner or later. For now...Long Live Fat Strings ! 1153 Tue, Nov 2, 8:24PM EST King BassBalls old timer>>Sorry, didn't mean to ignore you. I got disconnected. Take care. 1154 Tue, Nov 2, 8:29PM EST Azbug I believe I was the one who said I felt Disco was boring and mundane. It was...is my opinion. I never stated that I felt I was above it. It's like anything else I don't particular warm up to. I have a natural tendency to avoid it. As I said; this is my opinion and I don't "Expect" it to be the opinion of anyone else. KBB: Sorry for the accusation of something I said falling on you. I will close by saying I also feel arguing over and not respecting the opinions of others is boring, and mundane. Peace Bro's! 1155 Tue, Nov 2, 9:35PM EST newbie I've been wanting to try bass for a while and have a chance to pick up a Fender Prophecy II '95. Is this a good bass to start? and can you recommend some inexpensive/small amps to start? 1156 Tue, Nov 2, 9:59PM EST Grump King Bassballs.....I really like the G&L the neck plays like butter. I got it for $270, I firgured I couldn't go wrong. 1157 Tue, Nov 2, 10:08PM EST Grump>>>Great deal! I don't see how you could have gone wrong either. Hope you enjoy it. 1158 Tue, Nov 2, 10:10PM EST King BassBalls That was me. 1159 Tue, Nov 2, 10:15PM EST King BassBalls Anytime you can get a quality axe for a great deal, its like money in the bank. Can't lose. Can always get your money back and then some. 1160 Tue, Nov 2, 10:31PM EST King BassBalls Azbug>>No problem. Betcha played the AB35 today. 1161 Tue, Nov 2, 10:34PM EST MadStock Breaker, breaker. Looking for a real good effects box for bass. You know, good for studio and live. So many guitar boxes. So few high end bass boxes... 1162 Tue, Nov 2, 11:38PM EST Mr. Bass Grump> That's an excellent price! The G&L really kicks doesn't it! MadStock> I have several effect boxes, my fav for just getting crazy on is the Octave by Boss, if you play in the higher register it will copy an octave lower, some cool sounds. But I have noticed with a lot of them you do get a fair amount of noise, I guess thats the trade off. I think the T.C. electronics has a real nice chorus sound. And Zoom has a few out now, one with drum patches , anonymousandthensome might be jealous of the patterns, hehehe. KB and DB> enjoyed the banter, some valid points, as long as we all can keep learning and expanding our musical vocabluary its cool. 1163 Tue, Nov 2, 11:39PM EST Mr. Bass and if I can learn to spell ,that would be good too. LOL 1164 Tue, Nov 2, 11:42PM EST Rbacker Is that MB I see?? 1165 Tue, Nov 2, 11:44PM EST Rbacker Hello all, I'll keep my disco impressions to myself, but would like your thoughts on microphones, specifically for miking amps but would like something that is versitile. Any thoughts are appreciated. TIA 1166 Tue, Nov 2, 11:47PM EST Rbacker Jammed tonight and am absulutely having a blast. Took and turned a song into regae just to see if I could do it. Guys looked at me, smiled and went along for a while, I thank God I am able to play. Also thank Him for a great group of friends like yawl. 1167 Tue, Nov 2, 11:48PM EST Mr.Bass Hey Rb! I like the Shure SM 57 for micing my amp. 1168 Tue, Nov 2, 11:50PM EST Rbacker Hello MB, how is life on the East side? 1169 Tue, Nov 2, 11:50PM EST Mr.Bass Rb> Thats always a blast to change things up, just to see if it can be done, you never know until you try. 1170 Tue, Nov 2, 11:50PM EST Mr.Bass Very Windy! 1171 Tue, Nov 2, 11:51PM EST Rbacker What do they run price wise? Working on a tight budget. Than again I can find a way to get the money. Lowlifer always needs work done on his truck :-) 1172 Tue, Nov 2, 11:51PM EST Mr.Bass You would think this was Kansas! 1173 Tue, Nov 2, 11:52PM EST Mr.Bass I saw them advertised for 99. maybe even less at some places 1174 Tue, Nov 2, 11:52PM EST Rbacker Learning to figure what sounds good and how much to play. Glad to finally have someone to play with. Fingers are toughening up fast. 1175 Tue, Nov 2, 11:53PM EST Mr.Bass I seem to be on a mailing list for Musicians Friend, Ams and several others, I bet Bass Player mag is selling my name to a direct mail list 1176 Tue, Nov 2, 11:53PM EST Rbacker Right on, might have to stiff the Snap-On guy for a week or two. Not windy here, gorgeous weather now that the fires are out. 1177 Tue, Nov 2, 11:55PM EST Rbacker Me too, but I am leary of mail order stuff, see what shows up at work after UPS has had a crack. If I ordered a Carvin, I would probably make a vacation out of going to get the thing. 1178 Tue, Nov 2, 11:55PM EST Mr.Bass I dont think I have any fingerprints left on my right hand anymore LOL! 1179 Tue, Nov 2, 11:56PM EST Mr.Bass Yea, I think big g had a bad experience with the mail, but I have been pretty lucky in that regard. Knock on Wood. 1180 Tue, Nov 2, 11:57PM EST Rbacker I read you:-) Playing is just such a rush, Have to make another tape witha better mix. 1181 Tue, Nov 2, 11:58PM EST Rbacker I keep getting certain parts for forklifts sent to Texas for some reason, hate to have an instrument show up there!!! Sure 57 ,writing this down...... 1182 Tue, Nov 2, 11:58PM EST Mr. Bass I have so many tapes, but a lot of them are poor quality because I am always rushing to get things set up with no sound check, I am lucky I have time to even tune up! 1183 Wed, Nov 3, 0:00AM EST Rbacker Guy I play with has a nice little digital rcording setup but we are short on mics. I should prbably have one anyway for fun. Been awhile since I spent on the hobby. 1184 Wed, Nov 3, 0:00AM EST Mr. Bass Texas would be a long walk for me if they screwed up my order for something :) 1185 Wed, Nov 3, 0:01AM EST Mr. Bass Yea. I hear ya, sometimes the moneys tight, gotta watch where it goes 1186 Wed, Nov 3, 0:02AM EST Rbacker I'm with ya. You ever tune down by ear if something sounds deeper than the E, Played "another Brick in The Wall" and the low note sounded deeper which threw everyone off. 1187 Wed, Nov 3, 0:02AM EST Mr. Bass The digital equipment is very clean 1188 Wed, Nov 3, 0:04AM EST Mr. Bass I have done that by mistake, tuned to Db, the guys weren't to happy about it 1189 Wed, Nov 3, 0:04AM EST Rbacker yeah but hard to go to tape as is easy to overdrive. Have to listen to the first tape on earphones to sound right. How is life treating you anyway? Been seeing lots of references to Rocco lately. 1190 Wed, Nov 3, 0:07AM EST Mr. Bass When I went to see the Steve Morse band, I was amazed at how they are constantly tuning thier instruments, after every interlude, break, even during the song even. 1191 Wed, Nov 3, 0:07AM EST Rbacker I havent had any luck figuring out this live chat deal, write stuff but it doesnt' go anywhere. Hit my computer with my big hammer but didn't do much good. 1192 Wed, Nov 3, 0:08AM EST Mr. Bass Been good Rb, thanks for asking. How is everything out there? I saw the references to Rocco too, and I didnt even initiate them. 1193 Wed, Nov 3, 0:08AM EST Rbacker I saw those guys at a Rush show. Didn't appreciate it than as I was not playing yet. 1194 Wed, Nov 3, 0:09AM EST Mr. Bass You have to wait for it to set up before you type anything, at first I couldnt type anything either 1195 Wed, Nov 3, 0:11AM EST Mr. Bass I always enjoyed Rush, Geddys singing took some getting used to but always liked his bass playing 1196 Wed, Nov 3, 0:11AM EST Rbacker Been busy, $3 mil. project going on this winter, making much block this year. Prisons and churches, we do it all. Seen some of the buildings and a little pride seeps in. working 9-10 hour days and 8 on Sundays. Wife is straight A's in school so I really proud of her. Busting her butt. 1197 Wed, Nov 3, 0:13AM EST Mr. Bass Rb.. I have the other live chat minimized I see where it shows you did sign in and then sign off. You prob have to just scroll down to the window 1198 Wed, Nov 3, 0:13AM EST Rbacker I agree with Geddy thought. Friend of mine refers to them as the "Chipmunks". What he plays and sings though, mind boggling. I can play "comfortbaly numb" and sing but that is it. 1199 Wed, Nov 3, 0:15AM EST Mr. Bass Going back to school isnt easy. You should be proud of her,thats great! 1200 Wed, Nov 3, 0:16AM EST Mr. Bass I cant imagine singing a completely different rhythm than you are playing, and getting them both right on the money 1201 Wed, Nov 3, 0:17AM EST Rbacker She's a brainy broad for sure :-) I write along the bottom and nothing comes up anyehere else, do I need to enter the text somehow or not? 1202 Wed, Nov 3, 0:18AM EST Rbacker I read his practice routine and it's intense for sure. 1203 Wed, Nov 3, 0:18AM EST Mr. Bass Were you into the bass before you got the Rick as a gift? 1204 Wed, Nov 3, 0:19AM EST Rbacker inrefernce to the live chat. 1205 Wed, Nov 3, 0:20AM EST Mr. Bass On the very bottom it should say Warning applet window and above that a blinking cursor. 1206 Wed, Nov 3, 0:20AM EST Rbacker Yes, I have always liked the low note stuff, played bass T-bone in school just casue the tenor gets to high. 1207 Wed, Nov 3, 0:21AM EST Rbacker right, I write in that than and wait for things to happen then. Have to try again. 1208 Wed, Nov 3, 0:22AM EST Mr. Bass This may sound like a stupid question, but after you write where the blinking cursor is do you hit enter? 1209 Wed, Nov 3, 0:25AM EST Mr. Bass Rb..try it again 1210 Wed, Nov 3, 0:25AM EST Rbacker says "not on a channel" I can work on a loader with a 7 yard bucket but this computer drives me nuts. 1211 Wed, Nov 3, 0:25AM EST Rbacker says "not on a channel" I can work on a loader with a 7 yard bucket but this computer drives me nuts. 1212 Wed, Nov 3, 0:25AM EST Mr. Bass LOL! 1213 Wed, Nov 3, 0:26AM EST Mr. Bass bassman is the guy to ask, he is the comp wiz around here 1214 Wed, Nov 3, 0:27AM EST Mr. Bass Thats wierd, theres a message that you joined the chat then it says you left it 1215 Wed, Nov 3, 0:28AM EST Rbacker Looking for a torch and a hammer.... 1216 Wed, Nov 3, 0:28AM EST Rbacker How do get a channel? 1217 Wed, Nov 3, 0:29AM EST Mr. Bass You got me, I just click where it says live chat and then wait for it to load, then presto I'm there 1218 Wed, Nov 3, 0:30AM EST Rbacker I'm cursed!! 1219 Wed, Nov 3, 0:54AM EST Rbacker Thanks MB, night to all the bassplayers of the round table! To the BAST 1220 Wed, Nov 3, 1:19AM EST Quess Who And here's a blast from the BAST !!!!!!!!!! 1221 Wed, Nov 3, 7:39AM EST anonymous Hello 1222 Wed, Nov 3, 7:40AM EST anonymous Does anyone know where I can find info on Abraham Laboriel and/or John Patitucci? 1223 Wed, Nov 3, 8:05AM EST Dan The Bassist try doing a websearch for it on www.Mamma.com 1224 Wed, Nov 3, 8:05AM EST Dan The Bassist I think it searches all of the other search engines. 1225 Wed, Nov 3, 8:49AM EST Rbacker>>>www.proaudiosuperstore.com/shopsite/ 1226 Wed, Nov 3, 8:51AM EST Rbacker>>>button 1227 Wed, Nov 3, 8:57AM EST King BassBalls Rbacker>>>The above button is the best deal I've seen on SM57. AT $77.00 they are about $20.00 cheaper here than most places I've seen them. I bought two of them not long ago. 1228 Wed, Nov 3, 9:58AM EST Billy "BassMan" hello?! 1229 Wed, Nov 3, 12:12AM EST pfunk Hey is anybody out there 1230 Wed, Nov 3, 12:14AM EST pfunk I wanna know what kinda stuff your playin and if it's everything you hoped for. Does Any on ehave a conklin or a Warwick? 1231 Wed, Nov 3, 2:06PM EST old-timer pfunk,how you doin? I have a Warwick Thumb neck-through 4-string, Ithink it is an excellent bass,I have about 25 basses and it was my favorite until I picked up a Series II Alembic.It was that good ! 1232 Wed, Nov 3, 2:10PM EST old-timer I think Cort bought Conklin or the other way around,I'm not sure,but,either way I've been seeing lower priced Conklins in music stores recently.Give them both a good try-out,as well as others,then make your choice. 1233 Wed, Nov 3, 2:37PM EST King BassBalls Hello old timer>>>I have a couple of neck-thru basses (Daion Power Mark II and an Aria Pro II TSB550). They seem to lack the punch of a bolt-on, but better sustain. I've never tried an Alembic. Is that your experience with neck-thru basses. 1234 Wed, Nov 3, 3:11PM EST anyone home? 1235 Wed, Nov 3, 6:06PM EST old-timer Hi King...how's things? I hope Disco boy has overcome his disability and gone on with his life....as far as neck-thru's I find it to be very personnal with what you look for in a certain bass. More so than a gui#&*r.I know you understand having multiple basses yourself. 1236 Wed, Nov 3, 6:22PM EST old-timer I have a Pedulla MVP5 and Thunderbass 5,Ken Smith 5,Paul Reed Smith 4,Warwick Thumb 4,2 Alembics-SeriesII and a Spoiler 4,Rick CS model 4,SSD 5 and a Spector 4,Gibson EB-3, all neck-thru's and all different in their playability, tone, feel, sound and of course the touch you use to play each one.Some you can tell are neck-thru's, other's don't feel any different than a bolt-on. 1237 Wed, Nov 3, 6:24PM EST old-timer King -What's your favorite bass and why ,I'm curious. 1238 Wed, Nov 3, 6:56PM EST Azbug old-timer: Hey there! How are ya'? Conklin and Curbow are both shipping parts over to Korea for assembly, thus the cheaper models. The Curbows are liscensed for Cort and the Conklins are the GrooveTool line. 1239 Wed, Nov 3, 7:02PM EST does anybody on the web have any bass tabs for Grateful Dead or Dylan or similar bands 1240 Wed, Nov 3, 7:07PM EST does anybody on the web have any bass tabs for Grateful Dead or Dylan or similar bands 1241 Wed, Nov 3, 7:55PM EST Disco Boy old timer> No I didn't go away. And what may I ask, type of music do you play with your 25 basses? Country? We all have different opinions on here and in this wonderful world in which we live, you don't have to agree with them, but I'll be damned if you will stop me from voicing them!. If you want to be myopic in your views so be it. If you want to knock me go ahead, you are just showing your ignorance and prejudice to your fellow bass players, but I guess thats no real stretch. 1242 Wed, Nov 3, 7:56PM EST im not to familiar with computers. i tried to check to see if someone sent a reply to my question and it said that an invalid response was sent back. i will try later 1243 Wed, Nov 3, 8:15PM EST hello? 1244 Wed, Nov 3, 8:15PM EST Dan The Bassist 1245 Wed, Nov 3, 8:16PM EST Dan The Bassist I feel pitiful that I have to have conversations with myself on 2 different names... 1246 Wed, Nov 3, 8:16PM EST Dan The Bassist hmm...anyone like Yamaha RBX260's? 1247 Wed, Nov 3, 8:25PM EST crimins Rbacker > for my 2 cents worth, you can't go wrong woth the SM-57. Speaking of recording, the new group I've been practicing with the past 6 months (haven't played a gig yet) we are startig to record this week. Both the g**&^%r players have some pretty decent home recording stuff - a couple ADATs and a Fostex 8-track, plus a 24 channel Mackie board, so we're setting up in one of their dens with the board in the dining room and having at it. We're going to see what we can do with this. The venue is along the lines of Acoustic Alchemy, Sturns & Farah (SP?), etc. All instrumentals - two acoustic g(*^%%rs, drums and me on bass. I'm using the fretless a lot. So who knows, maybe we'll have some sound bites to post on the web in the near future. Also, glad to see this site working like it used to work. Thanks, Bassman. 1248 Wed, Nov 3, 8:41PM EST Dan The Bassist hello. anybody here? 1249 Wed, Nov 3, 8:50PM EST crimins Dan > you were asking about the RBX260. I have an RBX755A. I really like the Yamaha sound. 1250 Wed, Nov 3, 8:52PM EST King BassBalls I have a small studio (well, I own most of the equipment, someone else owns the building). Fostex 8-track, Biamp 16 channel board, Phillips CDR. I usually record thru my Demeter preamp, sometimes my Nightbass. The SM57 is a great all round, all purpose mic. It is THE snare drum mic, a great instrument mic, and a good vocal mic as well. 1251 Wed, Nov 3, 8:54PM EST crimins My main rig is also a Yamaha PB-1 preamp and a Yamaha P3200 stereo power amp. I can run both sides with the preamp in biamp mode. The preamp is no longer made, but sometimes you can find them used here and there. Pacman, who sometimes posts here, uses one, too. They have a great sound, even though all solid state. 1252 Wed, Nov 3, 8:56PM EST crimins Gotta go. Be back tomorrow night. 1253 Wed, Nov 3, 9:05PM EST Mr. Bass Does anyone have an Alembic FX-1 preamp? I have heard great comments about it, but never tried one. 1254 Wed, Nov 3, 9:10PM EST King BassBalls old timer>>>My favorite? Gotta go with my trusty Fender Jazz. Cigarette burn at the E-string tuner and all. Why? This bass has become like a part of me. It has that sound, my sound. I know every nuance of this instrument. I had always gigged with P-basses until I found my Jazz. 1255 Wed, Nov 3, 9:12PM EST Azbug KBB: Can't go wrong with Demeter. Nice stuff. I'm not a real fan of the 57 as a vocal mic. Definitely not female voice anyway. It doesn't have the freq response the 58 does. Mr.B: I don't have the FX-1, but I do have the SF2. I use it in my rack in tandem with the various pre's I'll use. It's a great tool. The FX-1 has been around forever and I hear nothing but good things about it. 1256 Wed, Nov 3, 9:13PM EST Rbacker Disco boy, message recieved, monotony overdose iminent. 1257 Wed, Nov 3, 9:15PM EST Rbacker Hello all, how is life? For those who asked, I run an Ibenez Musician and an Rbacker 4001 (I think) Got good deals on both basses so am a happy camper. 1258 Wed, Nov 3, 9:19PM EST King BassBalls Azbug>>>I agree. The 58 is a better vocal mic. I own three 58s and two 57s. If I could have only one mic, I'd have to go with the 57. More applications. 1259 Wed, Nov 3, 9:21PM EST Rbacker Thanks for all the input on the mic issue, Guitar Cent. has them for $89 and with a coupon can get a mic chord for free. 1260 Wed, Nov 3, 9:22PM EST Rbacker hey KBB, how's life? 1261 Wed, Nov 3, 9:25PM EST King BassBalls RB>>>Things going pretty good. Had my first test today since returning to college. I will be very suprised if I made less than perfect on it. 1262 Wed, Nov 3, 9:26PM EST King BassBalls I'm the old guy, sitting around with a bunch 18-20 yr olds. 1263 Wed, Nov 3, 9:45PM EST King BassBalls Disco Boy>>>I find old timer to be very informed, and I value his input, and believe it or not, I value your input as well. Different strokes for different folks. Peace. 1264 Wed, Nov 3, 11:21PM EST Holy Bag! Our pc got cooked! Nice to be here again. New pcu and all! Got my first tux gig tomorow! Wish me luck. Talk to y'all soon! P L & J!! 1265 Wed, Nov 3, 11:21PM EST Skiball oops dat wuz me ...Ski 1266 Thu, Nov 4, 6:27AM EST anonymous sdfgsdfg 1267 Thu, Nov 4, 6:28AM EST anonymous What da fuck is it?? 1268 Thu, Nov 4, 6:54AM EST groovalistic can any one tell me about victor wooten!!!!! what's his best albom? 1269 Thu, Nov 4, 10:27AM EST JohnnieA One last word on the disco topic. IMO, my resentment of the disco era was the re-invention of the club "DJ". It was damn near impossible to find any live music during that time, since club owners could simply spin records and not have to pay for live entertament. It was a dismal time for those of us trying to find work as musicians. Not to mention the dress code.. yeak...... Just my $.02 Later......................... 1270 Thu, Nov 4, 10:27AM EST JohnnieA One last word on the disco topic. IMO, my resentment of the disco era was the re-invention of the club "DJ". It was damn near impossible to find any live music during that time, since club owners could simply spin records and not have to pay for live entertament. It was a dismal time for those of us trying to find work as musicians. Not to mention the dress code.. yeak...... Just my $.02 Later......................... 1271 Thu, Nov 4, 10:35AM EST Disco Boy...you took a cheap shot 1272 Thu, Nov 4, 12:24AM EST big g Bumper sticker seen in the 70s, "Lets go disco tonight and put 5 musicians out of work". EB3, not neckthru, setneck. Glued on. I gotta go with OT here, I prefer neckthrus for the sustain, piano like tone. YMMV Dan tbm>>I've got a Yamaha bb200 that does the P bass thing better than most of the Fenders I've tried. Even though its the bottom of their bass line it is constructed very well. 1273 Thu, Nov 4, 2:13PM EST King BassBalls I gotta go with the punch of bolt-ons. Another advantage of bolt-ons is the ability to exchange a warped neck for a good one, or a fretless neck for a fretted one etc... 1274 Thu, Nov 4, 2:56PM EST old-timer King BB and Johnny A. I'm almost sorry I brought up disco now ! Still stinging after all these years...But... personnally it made me practice harder and I even learned some synth bass lines that were worth learning,ie. Stevie Wonder,some BG's.Experience none the less! 1275 Thu, Nov 4, 3:03PM EST old-timer King..I agree with your thoughts on bolt-ons as well as neck-thru's. We really are lucky there are so many choices with bass guitars today as compared to the "old days" of 3 or 4 mfgs. of passive basses. Thanks to Alembic in 69 for opening the active door and it took off from there.What choices we have now!! 1276 Thu, Nov 4, 3:08PM EST old-timer Well...Let me ask a question and see what I can get for information...I'd like to record bass on 2 tracks-1 track direct and 1 track from a microphone(at the same time). where to position the mic far enough away to get a slight phase effect?Is there a set rule or just trial and error? Anyone? 1277 Thu, Nov 4, 3:29PM EST JohnnieA old-timer>>> Interesting senareo... if what you're looking for is a slight delay, maybe the use of sonic calligraphy, where you can adjust the incoming signal to delay anywhere from zero to about 50ms while the original signal remains untouched producing an effect that sounds like two players. 1278 Thu, Nov 4, 4:10PM EST spud can anyone tell me why my rig sounds like a big lump of s---. i'm running a 1971 ric 4001 thru a trace elliot w/ 7 band eq pre-amp. this goes thru asabine rackmount tuner then to the monitor board thru a 200 crown power amp and back to me. my monitor is a 12" jbl w/ no horn. i recently switched from a horn loaded 15" jbl when i found it to be twice as punchy using a 12.(due to the lack of power) HELP!!! this rig should sound fine. currently using roto-sounds w/ no pick 1279 Thu, Nov 4, 4:21PM EST spud rbacker....you run a 4001. what's your view of this 70 lb. monster? how's your tone with it ? maybe my pick-ups are shot. this thing's seen it all from chris squire in the 70's to me'shad o ...... what ever her name is. 1280 Thu, Nov 4, 4:32PM EST big g spud>methinks the prob is somewhere between "tuner to monitor board, thru crown and back to you. Have you tried a direct box??. I have got rotos that didn't last a week. Once burned twice shy. 1281 Thu, Nov 4, 6:11PM EST Rbacker Spud, My bass was modified with a different bridge pickup, aftermarket bridge. Got the thing from my brother. I like the tone (sounds sweet through G's rig) and it sounds okay through my Crate/ Peavy setup. Does get a little heavy after a couple of hours though. 1282 Thu, Nov 4, 6:12PM EST Rbacker I'm running GHS Boomers and holding up good so far. Unknowns on the Ibenez though. 1283 Thu, Nov 4, 6:16PM EST Rbacker I keep hearing funky things about bolt on necks though, like "tremolo for bass" and "when it pops, that's far enough". Seems like a neck through would be much more stable. 1284 Thu, Nov 4, 6:27PM EST Rbacker wasn't a bolt on neck how Derek Smalls got that sound on "Cups and Cakes"? 1285 Thu, Nov 4, 7:09PM EST Disco Boy ok, no more on you know what. Didnt mean to get in anyones face, I get enough grief from g*%*#r players than to have to hear it from fellow bassists. You guys have a tight ship here and thats the bomb. See ya on the flip side! 1286 Thu, Nov 4, 8:51PM EST crimins Groovalistic - Wooten> get 'em all if you can, although his first one is an amazing showcase of just him and his bass, no overdubs, with the only other player being J.D. Blair on drums. Fantastic! 1287 Thu, Nov 4, 9:22PM EST crimins I should have mentioned that his first CD is "A Show of Hands". 1288 Thu, Nov 4, 9:23PM EST crimins I should have mentioned that his first CD is "A Show of Hands". 1289 Thu, Nov 4, 9:40PM EST Azbug Disco Boy: Welcome aboard! I hear ya on the G*&^T^& player syndrome. I really, really, REALLY don't like too many of them. Crimins: Amen on the Wooten thang, brudda. I haven't heard all of the new one, but I know "What Did He Say" is killer. I think J.D. is his drummer of choice. He plays on all his discs. 1290 Thu, Nov 4, 9:46PM EST Funky Boss Did any of you steal my Jazz bass? 1291 Thu, Nov 4, 10:41PM EST Rbacker Funky Boss, sorry, not into the theft thing, I lose too many tools to theft to go steal other peoples stuff, folks raised me to respect others and their property. 1292 Thu, Nov 4, 10:43PM EST Rbacker Disco boy, welcome to the chat. Guys I play with are fun. I've only had one negative experience with Gplayers, guy can only play metalica and that is all he plays, not my thing. Guys I play with now give a lot of suppport and let me "experiment" without being judgmental. Now the drummer and his artsy cymbal interludes....... 1293 Thu, Nov 4, 10:46PM EST Rbacker drummer will take off with these little breaks of his and not come back on the beat or in time. plays well with just a steady beat though. 1294 Thu, Nov 4, 10:47PM EST Rbacker First note in "another brick in the wall" is a low D or am I losing my sense of pitch? just curious, done ranting for now, good night all and best gigs for the weekend to all. 1295 Thu, Nov 4, 11:04PM EST Mr. Bass Rb> I can't find my CD, but if memory serves me correctly, I think it starts with a Dmin chord, so you would be right. D.B.> I dont think anyone really took offense, we have thick skins around here by now hehehe. Funky> Sorry about your bass, there's no worse feeling than being ripped off. 1296 Thu, Nov 4, 11:56PM EST Thumpin Rbacker> Yes, it is a low D - I think they just took Roger's Fender and tuned it down (back in the days before the 5-string!) - I believe Run Like Hell uses the low D too. 1297 Thu, Nov 4, 11:57PM EST niki I want to find out where I can by tickets for Riki Martin's musical concert at San Jose in Nov; 6th? any body knows?? 1298 Fri, Nov 5, 1:39AM EST lowlifer Drop D tuning there RB. 1299 Fri, Nov 5, 1:40AM EST lowlifer Or maybe a hipshot on the E string. 1300 Fri, Nov 5, 2:46AM EST david Good evening. I'm looking to put a new pick up on my '65 precision. Is there a place on the web where I can read about comparisons of pick up sounds. I want a fuller sound that cuts better than the original pickups. A sound more like on my EB-3L, though not necessarally the same. Any thoughts or ideas? You could email me at davidbrstn@aol.com. Thanks folks. David 1301 Fri, Nov 5, 10:10AM EST JohnnieA TGIF.... mornin ya'all... 1302 Fri, Nov 5, 10:21AM EST is there a brot in here? 1303 Fri, Nov 5, 1:46PM EST Azbug Hey JA! How ya' been? We need to get together. You going to the Bela show at Red River? The three times I've seen them have all been at the Scottsdale Amp. Kinda enjoyed that venue. I've actually played at Red River and seen a few shows. Kinda disappointing. Don't know if I could handle passin' up a chance to see Vic tho'! TGIF! I'm off to a retreat for the weekend. Me, the band, and 200 screaming teenagers...hmmmm. Have a great weekend to all! 1304 Fri, Nov 5, 1:55PM EST bAssfre@k Hello 1305 Fri, Nov 5, 2:36PM EST JohnnieA AZ>> WOW.. had no idea Vic was returning here. When? Would like to email him. Maybe we can get a private audience with the King. hehe Sounds like your weekend will be action packed!! See ya! 1306 Fri, Nov 5, 2:45PM EST JohnnieA AZ>> Just looked up the "Tones" schedule. The 14th of Nov. Sounds good. I emailed Vic, we'll see what happens. 1307 Fri, Nov 5, 3:10PM EST Azbug JA: Sounds good! Lemme know what he says. Have a good and I'll talk at ya' later... 1308 Fri, Nov 5, 4:44PM EST spud anybody home ?? 1309 Fri, Nov 5, 4:51PM EST spud big g, you're my hero!!! (after mr. mccartney of course) i went out and bought a sans-amp bass driver d.i.. what a killer device. i normally run straight out of the trace which has built in d.i..no more. thanks for the advice 1310 Fri, Nov 5, 5:38PM EST Thumpin >Spud, glad you bought a SansAmp, I've got one too...one of the most worthwhile products to have for your overall sound (stage and out fron in the PA), 1311 Fri, Nov 5, 5:42PM EST Skiball Rbacker>> Another good one w/ drop D tuning and is the intro to Hey You. A g$@*&r buddy of mine once argue that it was Gilmour playing the line cuz it was to melodic to be Waters. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... 1312 Fri, Nov 5, 7:25PM EST anonymous What's a brot? 1313 Fri, Nov 5, 7:29PM EST anonymousandthensome I noticed you guys don't mention Oteil Burbridge much, In A Perfect World is a good CD. He has some great chops! Anyone into him? 1314 Fri, Nov 5, 10:16PM EST Skiball I heard he played Little Martha on a six with the Allman Bros. Id love to hear that. Aquarium Rescue Unit is incredible though. 1315 Fri, Nov 5, 11:12PM EST JP Coleman JP's back. Who, I hear you cry ;) Well, anyway, just looking for a quick bit of compliment or condemnation for the Laney Linebacker 65 combo... Also, the Peavey Professional bass. I've been offered a very cheap deal on this set, including flight cases, but I've never heard of either before, and I can't find anything about them on the web... Any help, as ever, is appreciated. If Fender Europe had even half a clue, I wouldn't be having this conversation right now... But supplies of the new colour Precision specials are "limited", ie nonexistant, so I'm looking around again... Sigh. Well, it was all being too simple when I knew what i wanted ;) 1316 Sat, Nov 6, 9:46AM EST big g spud>your welcome. Glad I could help. JP>Peavey is known as the workingmans company. I've owned a couple of their products and have always gotten my moneys worth. Laney, I believe is a brit amp maker, been around a while. Never had a chance to play through one, but I have not seen any one bad mouth them on the net. It really comes down to "your" ears, and playing comfort. Lots of people like G & Ls, I think the neck feels like a bassball bat. Not flaming g&l, JMHO. Go play those two, you will know if its right. 1317 Sat, Nov 6, 10:04AM EST Grump JP I have a Laney PRO BASS 150 it's about 15 years old it has great tone,but it is under powered. As far as G&L I just got a 82 L1000 and the neck is wide like a P Bass, but it's not very deep sort of like the neck on my 66 p-bass. 1318 Sat, Nov 6, 11:02AM EST Grump>>the bassball bat I was refering to was a L2500 5 string, that I tried right after I got my LB 75 carvin. World of difference in the necks. Not that it is a bad thing, just my small hands couldn't adapt. Now if I had lowlifers hands, it would be different. 1319 Sat, Nov 6, 12:30AM EST Captain Does anyone have or know where I can find any midis with bass solos on them?I'd like to use them for practicing and learning new approaches.Thanks. 1320 Sat, Nov 6, 5:46PM EST anonymous Hello 1321 Sat, Nov 6, 6:22PM EST Mr. Bass big g> You have to try the G&L 2000 4 string, has a nice feel to it, but I still prefer the Carvin neck. 1322 Sat, Nov 6, 6:28PM EST Mr. Bass aats> I dig Oteil, Stand Up People is one of my fav songs by ARU. Got to see him LIVE @ Bass Day 99, haven't picked up hislatest CD, I hear its available online, someone postedit awhile back. 1323 Sat, Nov 6, 6:29PM EST Mr. Bass meant to say Bass Day 98 1324 Sat, Nov 6, 9:40PM EST lowlifer My hands aren't that big!! In fact my RB five jazz from fender is the biggest neck I would feel comfortable on. 1325 Sun, Nov 7, 1:25PM EST anonymous Where has everyone been? 1326 Sun, Nov 7, 5:59PM EST Thanks guys. I guess I'll go and have a listen-hear(like a look-see only more ridiculous sounding...) 1327 Sun, Nov 7, 8:00PM EST anonymous Are you all giging? 1328 Sun, Nov 7, 9:33PM EST Funk Knutz >Dear J.P.- Thought for sure you had settled in w/a Trace Elliot by now, along w/an axe you were already happy with as well. I will tell you for sure that Laney Amps used to be absolutely smokin'. They were right up their w/Marshall, Orange, and HiWatt, as well as other well known amps from "Across the Pond." They come from an excellent bloodline, though these days they tend to sound just a tad on the boxey side. It's certainly nothing that can't be EQ'D out of the sound. Realize that the tone controls on whatever bass you decide on don't always have to be cranked up to the full dime. They were meant to be mixed. Same for the tone controls on the amp. There are many numbers on each one besides 10. Don't be offended by that statement. I've got two Traynor Bassmaster tube heads. Same make, same model, same year yet the mix on each one is different- even when I'm using the same bass. As far as basses go Peavey's are O.K. They remind me of Hagstrom's from the seventies. Well built, good sound, but cheap hardware. No big deal though. Like I said in my first advice to you- If you and the neck make a magic connection-damn the hardware-that stuff is an easy upgrade should the need ever arise. It's the connection between your hand and the neck-DOES IT HAVE THAT CERTAIN MAGIC SOMETHING THAT THE OTHERS JUST DON"T HAVE?" Same goes for the amp. If you've got the right bass, does that amp hinder or enhance that feel? Best advice I can give. 1329 Mon, Nov 8, 1:35AM EST QueenMorgaus help!! 1330 Mon, Nov 8, 1:35AM EST QueenMorgaus I used to play elec string bass, but I can't remember what the strings are anymore 1331 Mon, Nov 8, 9:44AM EST The strings are the things you pluck 1332 Mon, Nov 8, 10:21AM EST big g EADG 1333 Mon, Nov 8, 10:27AM EST old-timer big g ...how ya doin? 1334 Mon, Nov 8, 10:28AM EST old-timer have you tried the real time chat yet? 1335 Mon, Nov 8, 10:28AM EST old-timer Anyone else tried it? 1336 Mon, Nov 8, 10:31AM EST old-timer How about whoever reads this message today meet in the live chat about 7:00 EST. tonight? Maybe it's the time frame most of us are in...might be worth a try ! See ya then...? 1337 Mon, Nov 8, 10:36AM EST fear Well,, I'm back. Survived the "famly vacation". Everyone is now sick with the flu!! NOT MUCH MUSIC WISE IN N.M Got back and went to my local music store to pick up a case and on the wall was a Carvin 6 string fretless. I dont play 6,s but this one felt really Good I got to play it for a total of 10 min. until it's mew owner came in to buy it. It went for $875.oo. IT played like SILK! Wide neck didn't feel Wide . Later E-one 1338 Mon, Nov 8, 11:35AM EST big g Hi OT, fear. Yes have tried RTchat, its great. Will try to match up tonight although that is 4PM out here on the left coast. Thats a pretty high resale price for a Carvin. You can buy a plain jane 6 for around the same price new. 1339 Mon, Nov 8, 4:17PM EST Bassman hi all. Opinion on Cavin and Wal 5 strings??? 1340 Mon, Nov 8, 4:36PM EST big g Very happy with my Carvin LB75 YMMV I like the narrow spacing, some prefer the P bass spacing, which you can also get. at least 6wk wait for it but its worth it. FYI its 1 pc hard maple neck, soft maple wings, active/passive,ebony fingerboard,buttkicken moyafoya. 1341 Mon, Nov 8, 4:39PM EST big g do I get extra points for using "it" 3 times in 5 words??? 1342 Mon, Nov 8, 5:02PM EST You could have gotten points, but you left out your comma after the first "it". 8^) 1343 Mon, Nov 8, 5:06PM EST big g 1344 Mon, Nov 8, 5:08PM EST big g recounted, 4 times, in, 7 words. 1345 Mon, Nov 8, 5:27PM EST fear UPS just ran!!! Wife called, LB 70 IS HERE! YEPPEEE!!! Christmass in November!! 1346 Mon, Nov 8, 6:14PM EST Grump I have tried to get into the live chat twice and both times it tells me I don't have a channel. What am I doing wrong? HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPP! 1347 Mon, Nov 8, 7:19PM EST old-timer Anybody around? 1348 Mon, Nov 8, 7:31PM EST 'Nez What is the best 5 string for under $500? 1349 Mon, Nov 8, 7:31PM EST 'Nez What is the best 5 string for under $500? 1350 Mon, Nov 8, 8:42PM EST crimins Bassman - I've got the Carvin B-5 fretless, but I built it from their kit. Or should I say I finished and assembled it. Great sound, easy to play. Not a bad deal for $449 + $50 for gold hardware. I just installed the string-through ferrules and now it has even more punch and a little more sustain. I'm very pleased with it. Don't know if you want to handle a kit, but if you're game you can save a few bucks plus get the satisfaction of finishing and assembling it yourself. 1351 Mon, Nov 8, 11:22PM EST Mr Bass hi all 1352 Mon, Nov 8, 11:23PM EST Mr Bass Ibanez soundgear is a kickass 5 string for $690 1353 Mon, Nov 8, 11:24PM EST Rbacker Hello MB 1354 Mon, Nov 8, 11:28PM EST Rbacker I still haave the offer of building my own from scratch with my coworker. He says we can go fretless first and if I don't dig it, we'll just throw on some frets. Guy does excellent work. Hoping to do this in the spring when positive cash flow is back :-) 1355 Mon, Nov 8, 11:32PM EST Funk Knutz >Mr. Bass- I agree. If you scroll back about 10,000 messages you'll see where I reccomended it as a good alternative to Yamaha for someone that needed a great 5-string on the cheap. As I said back then, if I weren't born w/link sausages for fingers, and a kielbasa for a thumb, I would have kept mine. 1356 Mon, Nov 8, 11:42PM EST Funk Knutz Well here's wishing all of you the best. By the way-whoever posted the original Python Spelling of NEE please let us know the correct spelling of what it is that they are now called. After all, what's a NEE w/out an ECKY ECKY ECKY.......Whatever......... 1357 Mon, Nov 8, 11:50PM EST What do I need to record my bass on my PC? I want to be able to post soundbites. Maybe get some music out on the web. 1358 Tue, Nov 9, 9:05AM EST big g Grump>not sure, but I think you must post your e-mail addy so it can find your server?? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. 1359 Tue, Nov 9, 11:28AM EST howdy ... anyone who can tell me where i can find the notes for Joe Frazier with Jeff Berlin on the net ?? the solo on the Bill Bruford "gradually ..." version ... 1360 Tue, Nov 9, 5:47PM EST old-timer Looks like a slow day here... 1361 Tue, Nov 9, 5:52PM EST old-timer Seems the current topic is centered around 5-strings lately...anyone had the chance to play either a Pedulla Rapture 5 or the Roscoe Beck 5-string Fender? Both bolt-ons...both pretty much in the same price range-$1200. new. 1362 Tue, Nov 9, 6:01PM EST old-timer I know someone was looking for an under $500 or $600. 5 string...I'm not knocking that price range but, I find basses in this range have a B-string that feels like a noodle, just my opinion...not trying to offend anyone,but, maybe saving a little longer would get a bass just a little better for the long run. 1363 Tue, Nov 9, 6:05PM EST old-timer Also...a big plus nowadays is the used equiptment market with places like Daddy's and so forth. If you do your homework and know what you're looking for, you can come up with some eye opening deals! 1364 Tue, Nov 9, 6:22PM EST King BassBalls Hey old timer>>>I agree. I only gave $350 for my Heartfield DR5. It listed for $1695 when it was new in '91. It has 3/4 spacing and a thin neck, and a good tight B-string. If you buy something you really don't want or can't use, eventually you will buy something better, and in the end will have spent more money. 1365 Tue, Nov 9, 6:23PM EST e265 >where i can found some onest vintage bass shop around Europe? hi from spaghetti land Italy 0:23 am 1366 Tue, Nov 9, 9:28PM EST big g Words of wisdom from my dad who didn't play music, "Buy a cheap tool, what ya got? Buy a good tool, you got one that will last a lifetime." 1367 Tue, Nov 9, 9:32PM EST big g 360 arrived in Minneapolis OK. PHEW. Shipping something that big can be scary. Glad its going to played. 1368 Wed, Nov 10, 0:53AM EST Mr. Bass big g> Great words of wisdom. I never understood when someone was going to buy thier first instrument and they would say "Oh, I am going to get something cheap because I might not like it, and why spend the money. Of course everyone has thier own comfort zone of what they can spend, but I say(reiterating o.t.) save a little longer if that is the case and get something decent that sounds good, is easy to play and is going to make you really want to pick up the instrument. 1369 Wed, Nov 10, 3:28AM EST Bass String Puller Goodmorning! I can always starve a little and spend my money on THAT particular instrument. I might loose a little weight as well! After all - are you dyin' to see a fat bassist with a cheap bass? 1370 Wed, Nov 10, 9:55AM EST big g fear>whats your impression of the LB70? Fill us in on the options you ordered? TIA 1371 Wed, Nov 10, 11:56AM EST basic What are notes that go together when following a 2,3,6 progression 1372 Wed, Nov 10, 3:20PM EST fear HI! Bottom E-bros,That " vacation" put me behind the 8 ball at work, A lot of new "faces" on scroll back! TO be honest, regretably I haven't been able to play the LB 70 much..sob..maby 10 min total so far ,to much going on. but it feels wonderful, The neck and finger board is like silk, just like the 6 i played. the options were. 5 pcs lam neck through, active/ passive elects, j 99 at the neck, hb 2 at the bridge, wallnut sides, black satin burst quilt finish w/ matching head stock, toung oil finish neck, black crome hardw, embosed truss rod cover. Shipped with no problems, set up was just fine,minor tune up was all. I will run it through the mill this week end. The finish looks like moon lite on water, or a boilling thunder storm cloud,very nice!! If I had known, I would have gotten the Harliquin paint they now offer. But I am very happy with what I got! Disco, rap, country, heavy metal,ect...To me it's not the style, it's the message in the music that counts, If it's death metal or gangster rap, it's a turn off for me, but the flip side would be "roll the bones" rush, It has a rap part that I like because it tells it like it is. Their are few song I like music wise and compleatly hate the lirics because of content. And as far as redund.. hit the echo, play it once, let it run, take a break!! LOL. IF I'm gonna play for a crowed that paid to see, I'm gonna put all my effort into it, no matter what the"style" But thats me! MRS Fears test came back NEGITIVE YAHOOOO!!! 1373 Wed, Nov 10, 3:45PM EST fear Oh yea, that was with rounded body sides too. 1374 Wed, Nov 10, 4:00PM EST King BassBalls Glad to hear good news about Mrs. Fears! Sounds like a nice axe. I've never owned a Carvin, and I have never heard anyone badmouth one. A guy I was in a band with years ago had one (a g@#$@r) with a curly maple body. It looked, played, and sounded great. 1375 Wed, Nov 10, 4:01PM EST JohnnieA fear>>> Great news about the wife. Praise the Lord! 1376 Wed, Nov 10, 4:10PM EST fear I was thinking of stringing the Ibanez BEAD any thoughts ? string selection? AND that ripper isnt a ripper!? It has the sliding pu! Was the truss rod cover changed? Or is it and odd ball? 1377 Wed, Nov 10, 4:14PM EST fear HEA guys! Johnnie let me get all my eggs in one basket, and I'll get that to ya! AND thank you! 1378 Wed, Nov 10, 4:51PM EST JohnnieA fear>> The Gibby with the sliding pickup was the Grabber. Poor design at best.... but, they did have the right idea though.. 1379 Wed, Nov 10, 5:36PM EST Skiball Gey all! Got my second tux gig tomorow. But with mixed emotion. I do have fun and the moneys great. Its even flattering to get the call and have the band be so comlimentive on how fast I learn the songs and follow charts on unfamiliar stuff. But for some reason I feel like a sell out. Old freinds call And ask what Im doing musicaly, and I kind of cringe when I tell them. I cant say it paying off artisticly-Brown Eyed Girl again.... Come on man! Im trying to be a pro though.And I think I am, but I dont want to be caught up in lounge lizard thing. but I guess its all up to me ....right? 1380 Wed, Nov 10, 5:38PM EST Skiball uh....that should have been "Hey"" all in the heading. time for a nap 1381 Wed, Nov 10, 6:05PM EST fear Skiball just as an exameple the NBC orq. johnny carson show , How many times was the theme song played through the history of the show? ULTIMENT LOUNGE GIG!!OR WHAT! AND A LOT OF THEM DID A LOT OF OUTHER STUFF TOO! STICK TO YOUR GUNS DUDE YOUR ON THE RIGHT TRACK 1382 Wed, Nov 10, 6:14PM EST fear gotta go HAVE A GOOD V DAY E-one 1383 Wed, Nov 10, 7:07PM EST Funk Knutz >Skiball- Stick to it. Ain't nothin' to it but to do it. I've found throughout my career that the people that knock my tux gigs are the same guys out there writing half-assed originals, and- "Waiting to be discovered," whatever the hell that means. I'm not knocking anybody, because I write a lot of original music too. I've found that being well fed and able to pay for my instruments(Via the tux gigs, makes the studio time more productive. That creative outlet in turn makes the tux gigs more enjoyable. It also means you can afford to eat in between the gigs for the original music. WOW a WIN WIN circle instead of a viscious one. What a concept. >Whomever- If your still looking for a BROT please identify yourself, and perhaps I may be able to help you. 1384 Wed, Nov 10, 8:21PM EST Grump Skiball-A gig is a gig as long as you enjoy and can learn from it. You'll learn more gigging than sitting in the basement playing with youself. And you'll make money to buy more gear. 1385 Wed, Nov 10, 10:10PM EST anonymousandthensome I have been where Ski is now. I think you have to do what your gut tells you, as far as learning while you are playing those types of gigs I think is a stretch, because most likely by the eighty fifth time you play Brown Eyed Girl you will have turned it inside out by then. This topic has been here before. I do agree with one point like Grump, that at least you are making cash for more musical equipment or for bills or whatever and you are using your bass to do it. But I also understand when you are on the bandstand if you just start daydreaming because the music is so bland(anyone who has done a ton of these can relate to this I am sure)then you have to reevaluate your situation. I personally stopped doing them because they took the heart out of me, they made me dislike one of the things I used to enjoy most in my life, making music. Everyone here has a different take on this as I remember. Some people rather play music to make money than any other job non related to music. The trade off was to great for me. I now enjoy getting together with friends and playing music that I love, it restored the feeling I once had for music. 1386 Wed, Nov 10, 10:56PM EST King BassBalls The time of the year is fast approaching for some really good paying "tux or "kook gigs. We take a few of these throughout the year. Usually double or triple what we get in clubs. I also sometimes fill in with other bands on these type gigs, and they are usually pretty fun. You know you're going to play "Mustang Sally" etc... but what else? I have played songs I have never heard -on the spot. Always fun, sometimes interesting. But if you aint having fun.... well, thats what its all about. 1387 Thu, Nov 11, 0:19AM EST anonymous anybody out there 1388 Thu, Nov 11, 2:04PM EST Rowdy Basstard BAssplayer from Holland 1389 Thu, Nov 11, 2:05PM EST Rowdy Basstard Anybody???????? 1390 Thu, Nov 11, 2:47PM EST I'm looking for a warm tone out of a medium string can anyone suggest anything? (self built 4 string bass) 1391 Thu, Nov 11, 5:19PM EST Skiball Thanx for the input brothers! I love this room. Downbeat in 4 hours, gotta run But not befor a low-end salute to the brothers who served! Have a great V-Day. Many thanks! 1392 Thu, Nov 11, 9:55PM EST anonymous 1001001001010010010010010101010100100100100101010100100100111010011001100100100100101010100100100101010101001001001001001001010101001001 1393 Fri, Nov 12, 1:03AM EST claypool interviewer I write for a Florida paper and I am interviewiog Les Claypool from Primus tomorrow at 10am...what should I ask him, folks?! 1394 Fri, Nov 12, 3:56AM EST anonymous I look for a bassist, who lives in States, but where? His name is David Autret. He comes from France and wanted to learn playing bass with Mark XXX? Anybody knows him? 1395 Fri, Nov 12, 6:45AM EST To The Point Ask him if he is completly amazed at how many times he gets interviewed and talked about based on the fact that his intonation sucks, and he plays out of tune! Ask him to play Lopsy Lu and then rate him. Lets us know how it went. 1396 Fri, Nov 12, 6:46AM EST To The Point Marxxx. is he related to Mark yyy? 1397 Fri, Nov 12, 8:23AM EST lars Hello 1398 Fri, Nov 12, 9:30AM EST fear Back to stringing the 4 string BEAD, would a body through be better than bridge loaded B? The body resinates well, almost tickels my mid section. I'm thinking DR med lite. This is on an Ibanez TR series. I think some of the P&W would sound better lower. Just an idea, if anyone has expermented what did you come up with? 1399 Fri, Nov 12, 12:14AM EST big g fear>have heard that stringing thru the body on the B string helps,ie better tension, more sustain. 1400 Fri, Nov 12, 12:41AM EST fear UH,,..thru.. DR-B good choise? 1401 Fri, Nov 12, 3:27PM EST Captain Does anyone have or know where I can find any midis with bass solos on them?I'd like to use them for practicing and learning new approaches.Thanks. 1402 Fri, Nov 12, 3:55PM EST Mingus hallo 1403 Fri, Nov 12, 3:56PM EST Mingus nobody here as usual 1404 Fri, Nov 12, 3:56PM EST Mingus ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ 1405 Fri, Nov 12, 4:02PM EST fear GETTIN OFF EARLY TODAY,YEA!! HAVE A LOW DOWN WEEKEND E-ONE, remember, you cant have a friday if you have a week full of mondays!! 1406 Fri, Nov 12, 6:15PM EST King Hawk Sorry to intrude but could someone tell me what the musical Term " Bass Rift " Means ? Its for my nieces homework !Any help would be Appreciated !! I cant find any reference on the web for it other than it may be a break in playing music on an instument ! 1407 Fri, Nov 12, 6:43PM EST M.B. I think the term is "Bass Riff" although the way some guys play it may sound like a rift. I always thought of a Bass Riff as something other than the standard bass line written for the song, something "extra" that you add, an improvisation. Classic examples: Jack Bruce, Tim Bogert= Kings of the Riffs. hehe 1408 Fri, Nov 12, 6:49PM EST Mr.Bass Mr.Bass> What ever happened to levite, Stu, #9? Where are you guys? 1409 Fri, Nov 12, 6:52PM EST Mr.Bass I signed in, then posted to myself, and I am not even drinking!! 1410 Fri, Nov 12, 6:52PM EST King Hawk Thanks for that !info I will have words with her about her spelling !! 1411 Fri, Nov 12, 8:11PM EST big g KH something like the intro to "another one bites the dust" thats a bass riff. Hi MB 1412 Fri, Nov 12, 8:51PM EST Mr. Bass big g> I think that was Queen's most profitable song, and the bassist wrote it! I always thought that a 'riff' was something that annoyed drummers. 1413 Fri, Nov 12, 9:54PM EST crimins Mr. Bass > yeah, been missing Levite (or B-O-B). 1414 Sat, Nov 13, 2:40AM EST Funk Knutz >Fear- Through body for the low B will give you more sustain as well. A lot also depends on the scale of the bass. 34" neck is often just a shade on the short side. String tends to be floppy w/out any real definition. A 35" neck tends to be just long enough to to be just about right. What I'm getting at is that if your neck string length is shorter than 35" from nut to bridge- you should definitely be thinking thru-body rather than strctly bridge over. 1415 Sat, Nov 13, 2:42AM EST Funk Knutz P.S.- forget my spelling and grammar. Just got home from a nice up scale blues gig, (Yes such things really do exist} and need to get rested for the Jazz/Prog. Rock gig tomorrow. 1416 Sat, Nov 13, 3:44AM EST Grump Had a gig tonight and took the G&L out for her maiden voyage and she did quie nicely. The gig was at a new club and the crowd liked us so we should get booked back. We have a gig tonight (sat) at one of our regular clubs, nice place to play but small playing area. 1417 Sat, Nov 13, 4:36AM EST King Hawk Thanks to "Mr Bass" & "big g", I think I understand now what a Bass Riff is, and I can pass it on to my niece! 1418 Sat, Nov 13, 4:38AM EST King Hawk Thanks to "Mr Bass" & "big g", I think I understand now what a Bass Riff is, and I can pass it on to my niece! 1419 Sat, Nov 13, 6:50AM EST winkle thanks for the news, man its great 1420 Sat, Nov 13, 9:35AM EST Pacman I havn't checked in in a while, but I had to tell you guys sumpin'. Bought a Hamer Jazz copy 5 string on Ebay (for a song) and used it on a gig last night. I was really impressed. I still went back to my Sterling for the end of the night when we were getting funky, but what a nice passive jbass sound! Love, Peace and BASS 1421 Sat, Nov 13, 9:47AM EST bunch-o-basses on the bayou hey lowdudz...i aint gone...juz been rilly bizzy lately....in fact we leave today for a week on daroad.....big G....been missin you bro....ill call you as soon as i get in ....ive got some family newz for you to digest....i think bassin muss run in da family....nowatimeen?.....ill check back later withyall ...till then keep the keyboard player in the upper registar and the gu**ar butcher turned off and keep the low vibes movin the 18...... 1422 Sat, Nov 13, 10:04AM EST big g levitical one>good to see ya still hanging around. Sounds like you are stayin busy. You guys see that 66 NOS Fender on ebay. My guess is it goes off for around $10K. I have to get a towel every time I view it. Shore is nice. Somebody here have a few bucks they can loan me?? 1423 Sat, Nov 13, 10:32AM EST big g Check it out button 1424 Sat, Nov 13, 11:51AM EST big g, alias rumblethump Bassbuds>I had to F disc my PC and lost my address book, damn windows explorer. Would you guys that have my email addy send me a short note so I can add you back. TIA 1425 Sat, Nov 13, 3:16PM EST old-timer big g...you're righton that 66 jazz...my pants are wet! That would be a shame if someone bought it to play....it's crazy but it's worth more tucked away somewhere!!! 1426 Sat, Nov 13, 3:21PM EST old-timer Is it just me or....when you're feeling bad about your playing, does anyone turn on M-TV and see the bands out there these days and feel much better about you're playing ? 1427 Sat, Nov 13, 3:23PM EST old-timer But , at the same time...when you think you're the cat's ass on the bass, does anyone put Jaco on and come back to Earth real quick ? Or is it just me...? 1428 Sat, Nov 13, 3:25PM EST old-timer So much to learn..so little time... 1429 Sat, Nov 13, 8:51PM EST Mr. Bass You are not alone o.t., Jaco humbles me at times too. 1430 Sat, Nov 13, 11:15PM EST button you are interested in learning the modes, here is a good link. 1431 Sat, Nov 13, 11:16PM EST anonymous button 1432 Sat, Nov 13, 11:18PM EST M.B. I have no idea why the button works only the second time I post it 1433 Sat, Nov 13, 11:18PM EST M.B. It almost reminds me of that haunting TOP post.. hehehe 1434 Sat, Nov 13, 11:39PM EST MB it's the ...if at the end of the first button is why it don't work. 1435 Sat, Nov 13, 11:45PM EST M. B Thanks :.. 1436 Sat, Nov 13, 11:46PM EST M. B No gig tonight 1437 Sun, Nov 14, 0:01AM EST lowlifer No gig tonight, next one is friday the 27th. Next weekend going to Reno for 3 days though. 1438 Sun, Nov 14, 9:32AM EST big g lowlifer>while in Reno, check out Bizzare Guitars. Pretty cool place. 1439 Sun, Nov 14, 9:36AM EST big g I wouldn't be surprized if Fender bought it. Bet they dont have any 66s around their shop anymore. 1440 Sun, Nov 14, 10:07AM EST Skiball Morn'in all! Heading over to Orlando Browns Backers club for da game. yippy....yahooo ......horray....go browns.......(and take the cavs with ya)... Y'all have a good one. 1441 Sun, Nov 14, 10:14AM EST Azbug The comment made by old-timer about not playing the Jazz was interesting. I mean, I understand why he said it, but there's a voice in my head (uh-oh!) that is saying why not play it? Instruments are meant to be played. There are some that if they're not played they are ruined. I guess you could justify not playing it by wanting to keep it as a "Museum" piece as an example of the era. That makes sense to me. I don't know. I absolutely love the feel of the Jazz neck and I think....I KNOW that if I had that Bass I would have an incredibly difficult time not plugging it in and playing it. Interesting topic. 1442 Sun, Nov 14, 10:17AM EST Azbug Hey Ski! Good luck with the Browns. I work with a women that is the "President" of the Phoenix chapter of the Browns Backers. What an organization! All over a football team. The travel parties they have each year sure do sound like a blast. 1443 Sun, Nov 14, 11:27AM EST anonymousandthensome I understand when a guy has recorded with a certain bass for years (like Stanley with his brown bass)and then he doesn't take it out on the road anymore because he doesnt want anything to happen to it. But like Azbug, I agree, just not playing a bass because its considered a classic or vintage bass doesn't make sense to me. 1444 Sun, Nov 14, 11:46AM EST big g I agree with both sides, but a mint bass like this is a collector. The bids reflect this. For all we know it could sound like a POS. Playing it would devalue it. I'm sure if I could buy it (fantasy), I would try it out (being extra careful not to leave any sign). Its just that I have never seen a 66 in NOS condition (except back in 66) and to me that makes it a collector. FYI I play all my current basses. In the absence of Cyberfang (and his great organizational skills), how about meeting Monday night 9 pm eastern, 6pm pacific, at the Real Time Chat??? To the BAST.... 1445 Sun, Nov 14, 1:21PM EST old-timer Glad I got you guys thinking out loud...well thought out reasons for and against.It's not really the bass we're talking about as much as the letters NOS. A 66 Jazz can be found and bought in an hour, almost anywhere in the country.An NOS 66 Jazz is a rare find and not available on a regular basis. 1446 Sun, Nov 14, 1:25PM EST old-timer How would you feel if you payed several thousand for it and put skuffs on it from playing it....NOS no more! Just a plain old 66 Jazz in ex. cond. 1447 Sun, Nov 14, 1:31PM EST old-timer Dont take me as an elitist over this...just my thoughts. I believe in playing anything and everything bass, but this 66 is something all together different. Let's preserve something for our great-grandchildren bass players to gawk at in a museum and say " imagine my great-grandfather played one just like that!" 1448 Sun, Nov 14, 1:59PM EST Azbug old-timer: I definitely don't see you as an elitist, and after mulling it about in the ol' knoggin' for a little bit I think I would probably side with the preservation idea. The fact that it's never been plugged in definitely puts it on a level higher than others in the pristine category. If anything, I feel more the elitist when I say that the exposed area on the back of the neck that the description states bothers me. I have spent that kinda cash for an instrument before and I turn into a whole different creature when that is happening. I would think that when you are doughing out that kinda cash you had better be an elitist, or maybe shrewd is a better word. It's much too easy to get burned these days. I still have to say that if it were mine I would have to keep it out of my line of site. The urge to play it would grow on me! :)~ 1449 Sun, Nov 14, 2:02PM EST Azbug Question: If it didn't have the exposed area on the neck what do you think the highest bid would be? Last time I checked it was at $5400 with two bidding days left. 1450 Sun, Nov 14, 2:07PM EST Azbug Man! I'm STILL blabbering.... I think a good place for that Bass would be on display in a well-built, environmentally controlled display case in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame. Hey! Let's all pitch-in, buy it and donate it!...yeah, right. Okay, I'm done. 1451 Sun, Nov 14, 5:49PM EST Bass! How low can you go??? 1452 Sun, Nov 14, 5:53PM EST Hey ho!!!!! Is there someone ?? Am i talkin' to myself??? 1453 Sun, Nov 14, 7:10PM EST anonymous What does NOS mean? 1454 Sun, Nov 14, 7:38PM EST New Old Stock 1455 Sun, Nov 14, 9:01PM EST anon+ Azbug..I still think your original position was correct 1456 Sun, Nov 14, 10:23PM EST Skiball Um.....'Scuze the irrelelivence to this place but THE BROWNS BEAT THE STEELERS @ PITTSBURGH!!!! Disregard the sarcasm of the earlier post! IM STOKED!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats our superbowl!What a great day this is for Cleveland!! WE Rock!! 1457 Sun, Nov 14, 10:38PM EST Skiball OK- Im better now. As far as the J-Bass or any other relic/n.o.s. bass goes- dont forget what its for in the first place. I mean, you can ruin a Stratavarious violin by not playing it! Right? As beutiful as these things are lets remember that they are actualy tools for making sweet sweet tones. I'd rather have my grandson say "Listen to grampy's old bass" than have him say "Look at it incased in glass just like he left it!" If it plays PLAY IT! and andmire what your soul has to say more than what a craftsman can bolt together! Where Is the tone anyway? Sorry if this sond like hippie-ethics but if its a duck lets call it a duck. (IMHO) 1458 Mon, Nov 15, 10:11AM EST fear That 66 put tears in my eyes, looked just like mine from years ago, except mine had dots. If I had it,it most certanly would be played, but treated with GRATE CARE. any body got some spair change? LOL.IF this 66 hasn't "EVER" been played that kinda throws "IT WILL RUIN" out the window, IT looks VERY playable to me! 1459 Mon, Nov 15, 10:51AM EST 1460 Mon, Nov 15, 10:55AM EST old-timer Imagine...all this discusion over a bass that,in it's day, cost probably $300. Was nothing out of the ordinary and was available in just about any music store or pawn shop in the country ! So what is time worth ? 1461 Mon, Nov 15, 11:01AM EST old-timer Has anyone wandered around places like Sam Ash or Manny's in N.Y.C. lately and looked at the old basses they have for sale ? Talk about beat-up and abused....saw a 63 P-bass ,beat to shit,$9000. !No haggling about the price either....One man,s trash is another man's treasure....must be a point here somewhere ! 1462 Mon, Nov 15, 11:06AM EST old-timer I think we all agree on one thing as bass players...we will do whatever is needed for the good of the instument...loud,soft,background,foreground,bassy,trebly,whatever! Get that commitment from a gui*&^r player ! 1463 Mon, Nov 15, 11:08AM EST Scatty Hello i play bass but in punk and alternative bands i have been asked to join a jazz band . I was wondering if anyone knows some great jazz players i can look into 1464 Mon, Nov 15, 11:19AM EST fear Amen O.T! That 66 just made me stroll down yesteryear ave. thats the bass that tought me to play, or looked like it anyway. THE CARVIN IS GRATE. I've only begain to graze the surface of its many voices. but the neck and fret board are like butter! The strings are ok, I'll ware them out first befor I change. 1465 Mon, Nov 15, 11:29AM EST fear scatty.. Bunny Brunell and if you use scroll back 400 or so you will see a host of outhers. luck dude thats going to be quite a change in style 1466 Mon, Nov 15, 11:29AM EST Does anyone have a Peavey Cirrus 5 string out there? 1467 Mon, Nov 15, 11:29AM EST big g fear>when I got my carvin it was active only. After switching out the original preamp module for the newer active passive unit I found I play it mostly passive and use the active when I need some extra UMPH. Strings are made by LaBella. Cant beat their prices. 1468 Mon, Nov 15, 11:30AM EST big g Jay> I tried one, but my small hands noticed the extra stretch on the 35" scale. Nice bass. 1469 Mon, Nov 15, 11:49AM EST fear big g in blending n & b pu's in both modes I;ve found a lot of tones from hollow log to "feel it in your soul" full I'm going to play around with that little trim pot inside. 1470 Mon, Nov 15, 1:21PM EST fear I got a stupid question, when I play some times I use accents "mini cords" exp. playing on the D and G strings togather, at 15th and 17th frets the notes are F and C when played togather what is the note? F or C ? Would the rule be the lowest note is the root? A musical exp would be Dreams I'll never see By Moly Hatchet,the intro in which the notes are D & G Then D & F# on the 21st & 20th fret. 1471 Mon, Nov 15, 3:04PM EST King BassBalls Those aren't exactly chords. I was taught to call those double stops. The F and C example would fit a F (major or minor) chord, it could also fit a C (major or minor) chord with the F note being the fourth of the chord. Dreams uses the third (F#) and the fourth (G) of a D major chord. It would depend on the key and the inversion of the chord to determine the root. 1472 Mon, Nov 15, 3:12PM EST King BassBalls Also when playing two notes together, you don't neccessarily have to play the root of the chord at all. 1473 Mon, Nov 15, 3:29PM EST big g fear>>I had to reset the trim pot. The volume jump between p and a was way outta whack. I have em pretty even now. 1474 Mon, Nov 15, 3:34PM EST King BassBalls 1475 Mon, Nov 15, 4:33PM EST fear OOPS that dreams exp was supposed to be on the 11 and 12th fret.TX KBB SO thats a double stop, wow, and all this time I've been doing it. I wish I could plug in to a comp. that would print out notation as played, just to see it. I picked up a chord wheel by Ron Green a few years ago it shows all the maj & min chord progressions of any key. Just dial whatever note in the window and your their.any one else got one? 1476 Mon, Nov 15, 4:36PM EST Basser Big G... I have an older Carvin with active elec. Do you feel it is worth changig to the new type? Is it easy to do or do I need to have a pro do it? 1477 Mon, Nov 15, 4:37PM EST Basser Big G... I have an older Carvin with active elec. Do you feel it is worth changig to the new type? Is it easy to do or do I need to have a pro do it? 1478 Mon, Nov 15, 5:07PM EST fear Basser can you solder? if so you can do it, but if it spooks you, farm it out. 1479 Mon, Nov 15, 5:48PM EST fear Well,enough ramblings for this bass crazed fret board hugger I'm out 1480 Mon, Nov 15, 6:12PM EST Skiball Had a great free concert here saturday! Atlanta Rythem Section, gary Wright and R.E.O. A.L.S. had a different bassist. Their former was a beast! 300lbs? and grooved like hell! Sorry he was'nt there.Wright's bassist played a sweetheart of a Lakland thru SWR (My dream rig). R.E.O.'s bassist played n.o.s. Fenders (50's P & 57 P). I hear he has a lot of vintage stuff but does'nt take them on the road. All sounded great but Wright's bassist won the covetted "Skiall Tone Award" 1481 Mon, Nov 15, 6:14PM EST Skiball forgot the b..............DOH!! 1482 Mon, Nov 15, 6:45PM EST Mr. Bass Double stops are very popular in Jazz, Alphonso Johnson does a great job with them, so does Jeff Berlin, Geddy Lee even started using them! 1483 Mon, Nov 15, 8:29PM EST big g meet at real time chat 30 minutes away. 1484 Mon, Nov 15, 8:30PM EST King BassBalls Try some double stops using 10ths. Say a song ends on an E minor chord, if you fret the E on the 12th fret with your bird finger, the flatted 10th will be right below on the 12th fret G on the g-string (try fretting this note with your pinky). Play them simultaneously. For a major chord move the pinky up to the 13th fret. Try to play the 10th softer than the root note. The 10th is just a 3rd up an octave. They sound really cool especially on endings and intros. 1485 Mon, Nov 15, 8:37PM EST big g basser, my soldering skills aren't the best so I farmed it out $20 at Carvin store in Santa Ana for install. Yes I would highly recommend the change. Before, I thought the mid control was useless (voiced wrong). The new unit mid control is definately superior with both cut and boost. Also running passive doesn't use up the battery,or can be switched from active if the battery dies. As stated before, I liked my bass with active controls but prefer it passive now, more organic sounding. 1486 Mon, Nov 15, 8:54PM EST King BassBalls big gberfange>>how many minutes till the meeting. To the Bast. 1487 Mon, Nov 15, 8:58PM EST King BassBalls Sorry, but I don't think this webtv (my wife sold our computer) will let me participate. Any day now I'm expecting a new Gateway pentium III. I'll try then. 1488 Mon, Nov 15, 9:11PM EST big g To the bast.......Well I was hanging out at the real time, went away for a couple minutes and RB came an left. Rbacker got your ears on big buddy??? 1489 Mon, Nov 15, 9:13PM EST big g KBB>I think you will like the Pentium, a real wammer jammer 1490 Mon, Nov 15, 9:14PM EST Rbacker I'm on Big G 1491 Mon, Nov 15, 9:16PM EST big g Hows things goin with ya. Do any playin with the group this weekend? 1492 Mon, Nov 15, 9:16PM EST Rbacker About the coveted bass, seems like I read somewhere that the older basses have a different tonality due to the instrument "settling in" due to the string vibrations and the wood doing its cure thing. any thoughts? 1493 Mon, Nov 15, 9:18PM EST Rbacker Playing quite a bit with the crew. songs get a little long and sometimes a little boring, this is causing me to take off and start checking out different things. G&^%$r players are so deep into what they are doing, the drummer and I just kinda go our little way as well while keeping in the context of the song. So, all is well :-) 1494 Mon, Nov 15, 9:20PM EST G, I['m switching over to the RT chat if that's okay with you 1495 Mon, Nov 15, 9:21PM EST big g I'm sure the wood is cured, dont think the string vibration is a factor on this one. I really dont think my old bass sounds any better or worse. It either sounds good out of the gate or I wont own it. But ask the stradavarious guys and they will argue those points for sure. 1496 Mon, Nov 15, 9:22PM EST big g I'm on my way 1497 Mon, Nov 15, 10:17PM EST Funk Knutz Actually, on an acoustic bass, the wood settling in is very important, though many new ones do sound good out of the gate. It is these that usually grow up to be old mellow blow your b***s off URB's. It can often be seen on the cheap ones as well. New Kay's used to sound like major doodie when brand new. 40 years later they're honking axes. With a solid body electric it makes little difference. One of the many reasons that wooden bridges were dropped relatively quickly from solid body electric guitars and basses. (Not to mention cost, resonance, etc.....) 1498 Tue, Nov 16, 9:46AM EST big g less than an hour left on the NOS Jazz. Bid at $5400 for last two days. Current high bidder has no previous transactions at EBAY. Hope hes not a Flake. 1499 Tue, Nov 16, 2:18PM EST old-timer big g ....one things for sure with that 66 Jazz, if nothing else , it got all of us to give our 2 cents worth ! May that Jazz bring happiness where ever it ends up ! 1500 Tue, Nov 16, 2:26PM EST old-timer I've got another question for who ever has an opinion...Which do you think is worth more, this brand new,never used,mint condition,museum quality 66 Jazz we've been talking about or the beat to shit,dropped on the ground,scatched,chipped and gouged to death Jazz Jaco played?Makes ya think,don't it? 1501 Tue, Nov 16, 2:32PM EST old-timer I gather from everyone's knowledge in this chat, we have been at this several years individually. What did you guys start out with- bass and amp wise?Your first love's,so to speak. This should be good... 1502 Tue, Nov 16, 2:46PM EST King BassBalls My first bass was a 60's Epiphone,(don't remember the model,but it was before they started making Gibson clones) quickly upgraded to a Rick 4001 (which was stolen). My first amp was an Acoustic 140 and a 106 cab (2/15). I still have the amp and cabinet. Both still work. 1503 Tue, Nov 16, 3:21PM EST JohnnieA Bought a $89 St. George Jap P-Bass clone in '64 and another '64 St. George two years later. Still have both, restored the original, and made the other a fretless. Can't remember the first amp, it didn't last long, then bought a '65 VOX Essex with two Bulldog 12s... 1504 Tue, Nov 16, 3:54PM EST fear Mine was american fender jazz pre cbs I think. kicked my ass more times than I care to comment on this one. And a Kustom 100 w/15in. Still have it, changed out spkr a few times. 1505 Tue, Nov 16, 4:16PM EST King BassBalls I think you could get more for Jaco's bass. 1506 Tue, Nov 16, 5:15PM EST Skiball Dig this! And keep in mind Im only 33. My first bass was a Memphis p- copy. Looked cool too! Fender made them change the headstock a year later. And my amp? An all tube 100 watt Sears Silvertone head with matching cab loaded with a 15" Jenson and two tens.Wish I stll wad the head! 1507 Tue, Nov 16, 5:19PM EST Skiball On a Down note- The free show I saw last week-The drummer from ALS got carted off in an ambulance after the show. Heart attack. They could'nt revive him.37 years old. Took a MONSTER solo that day too......... Be at peace brother thunder. 1508 Tue, Nov 16, 6:02PM EST big g KBB>I agree, Jaco's original bass, worth many times more. I thought the Jaco Custom shop repro for $3200 was a little steep. My first bass, Danelectro Longhorn, played through a pre CBS showman with one 15. Cab was stolen so I built a tiele sp? spec 2-15" loaded with 2 D140s. Great sound, used to rattle drinks right off the bar at the officers club. hehehe. Only prob, it ate 6L6s every couple of months, maybe if I had known about biasing then??? Replaced it with the Acoustic 360 thats hangin in Minneapolis now days. 1509 Tue, Nov 16, 6:56PM EST old-timer Wow...and I call myself old-timer. You guys started with the same stuff I did. A 49 dollar Howard bass from a pawn shop and a Sear's silvertone like you Skiball !Look at the average starter basses today...amps too ! 1510 Tue, Nov 16, 7:05PM EST old-timer KBB..big g ...About 10 years ago I was checking out music stores in Ft. Lauderdale when I came across one in the telephone book that made appointments for you to check out there wares. This was really strange but I called and set up a time. 2 locked doors later I was looking at Jaco's bass ! Not the one that was stolen in N.Y. but the one he had after,made exactly like his original. It was being auctioned off as part of his Estate. Not to be dramatic but it was a moment every bass player should taste ! 1511 Tue, Nov 16, 7:16PM EST old-timer fear..my first "big time " amp was one of the first Kustom's in black tuck'n'roll and 3-15 in. JBL 140's Kicked ass ! Great amp's at the time.Still have the 200 watt Kustom head ! 1512 Tue, Nov 16, 7:20PM EST old-timer How come we seem to have a hard time connecting on the live chat? Every time I check it out no one is there.Could we set up a time or two to maybe hook-up live? Iknow the time zones pose a slight problem, but... 1513 Tue, Nov 16, 9:46PM EST Mr. Bass My first (official) bass was a Sekova, Japanese copy of the Hofner Beatle Bass(before that I had a Sears Silvertone guitar and took two strings off, this came with an amp in the case, very cheesy. First amp with an actual name plate on it was a Fender Bassman, with an LPB-1 power booster added. My impersonation of Mel S.from GFR. 1514 Wed, Nov 17, 8:02AM EST 8^) Dave Wow! I thought I was the only one who owned one of those Sekovas. I actually had two; a black bass with a Les Paul body and a sunburst guitar, also with a Les Paul body. The action was so high on both you could go bungee jumping off the strings and never hit the neck. I also enjoyed the way the top was put on the body; it left a big hollow space under the top. I discovered the joy of this when I bought my first real amp. The feedback was heinous, even at a moderate volume. The hollow space has other uses. For instance, I sold this bass to my friend a few years later. He played at a party where a drunk buffoon took his bass and threw it in the pool. Guess what. It floated! Thank God those days are over. 1515 Wed, Nov 17, 9:45AM EST thunderthumb anybody around ? 1516 Wed, Nov 17, 12:51AM EST big g Before I got bit by the Bass bug, I played a Kent 6 string hollowbody with two gold pus, through a silvertone amp, taught my friend down the street some chords so I could play lead. Walk dont run city. We both played through that amp at the same time. What fidelity??? 1517 Wed, Nov 17, 1:27PM EST fear I've been wrong About the Ampeg,SVT IV, first I've been calling it biamped .WRONG its MONO BRIDGED and second they ordered the wrong spekton cable. SO I have never actualy got the full 1600 wts out of it,, until last night with one 1/4 in. inst. cabel. SOMETHING JUST wasn't right. The #^%$#& instructions don't show anything outher than spekton connection in mono bridge mode. ANY WAY after we got the cats s#$% cleaned and OUR under ware changed I quietly slipped it back to sterio mode vowing to not touch that switch until its out side 1518 Wed, Nov 17, 5:17PM EST fear OH, and we had to rehang some pitchers too. I now hold the utmost respect for Ampeg.. It WILL hurt you! 1519 Wed, Nov 17, 6:07PM EST fear I dont understand spekton wireing. The right way for SVT IV is (head +1 & +2) (CAB +1 & -1) I see the numbering on the plugs. Their are 4 wires and all hooked up.Do I use only two? The 1+ to 1+ would be as is , the 2+ to 1- the 2+ wire would be changed to the 1- spot at the outher end, and all outher wires not used? Is this rite? Not fully trusting my instinces right now due to reasons mentioned above. Can you say "SONIC BOOM" sure you can! 1520 Wed, Nov 17, 7:52PM EST crimins Old-Timer > my first was a Gibson EB-0, about 1967, played through a Fender Dual Showman, the one with 2-15s, blond Tolex. Wish I still has that amp. Before that I played the keyboard players Kent bass. But the Gibson was the first I owned. By the way, I vacationing in Blue Ridge, GA with the wife. We've got a cabin waaaaay back in the woods (among the evergreens ..... nevermind). Anyway, I had totally forgotten that Greg Curbow (yes, that Greg Curbow) has his shop in the neighboring town of Morganton, GA. So when it finally dawned on me, we went by their yesterday. Unfortunatlely he was not there, but I got to view his shop. He had a few of the mass-produced Cort-Curbow basses there, but none of his custom stuff that he is so well-known for. According to his web site, his custom stuff goes for around $3800, but he certainly does beautiful work. He has built for several well-known pros such as Dave Pomeroy. Check out his site at curbow.com. 1521 Wed, Nov 17, 7:53PM EST crimins sorry about those typos. 1522 Wed, Nov 17, 9:22PM EST levite or better known as "bunch-0-basses" may I sound off on this....my first bass was a danelectro....(still have it).... fisrt amp....sears silvertone....tubes too....then i got fancy and went to an eb-3....gibson with a rosac amp...(anybody remember those)....shheeesh... technology has come a long way.......now i play mostly a DSI or a Ken Smith Custom through a Carvin...first or the SWR 700 with a triad cab for fretless work.... my my how time do fly.... 1523 Wed, Nov 17, 9:34PM EST B-0-B big G....wheres your old long horn...?..still got it....i still have mine... and it aint fo sale.....but i did sell a couple basses this summer...a tobias classic (p.o.s)...thats my honest opinion......and a 69 jazz that still had flats on it.... 1524 Wed, Nov 17, 9:57PM EST Disco Boy First bass and amp, Rickenbacker 4001 Fireglo and and Acoustic 150b ,I loved that amp, till it caught on fire, and we were playing Fire by Hendrix, that I will never forget! That was a fifty fifty chance it would happen during that song since the only other song we knew was Hey Joe. 1525 Wed, Nov 17, 9:59PM EST Disco Boy A Tobias- p.o.s. ?? Thats an oxymoron! 1526 Wed, Nov 17, 11:40PM EST Azbug Man...I thought I was old!!!...;-) 1527 Wed, Nov 17, 11:44PM EST Azbug First Bass; Jetglo 4001 ('73) First amp; Sunn BetaBass self-contained 1x15. My nephew has inherited the set-up and they still sound great together! 1528 Wed, Nov 17, 11:46PM EST Azbug The Sunn still has the same speaker frame, but the driver has been replaced twice and the cone...probably a dozen times. I used to get a little too excited back in the good old days. 1529 Thu, Nov 18, 2:41AM EST anonymousandthensome Is there one bass out there that is, what you would call the "standard of the industry", where most bassists would agree on? 1530 Thu, Nov 18, 9:19AM EST fear anom+ >> That would be a fender jazz early mod. Did anyone get a hoot outa my Experance the outher night? the spekton thing must have every one scraching their heads? 1531 Thu, Nov 18, 9:23AM EST fear The new OLD SPEC jazz they now make might be as good ? 1532 Thu, Nov 18, 11:09AM EST anonymous 1533 Thu, Nov 18, 11:09AM EST anonymous Let there be rock 1534 Thu, Nov 18, 11:10AM EST anonymous Hallo? 1535 Thu, Nov 18, 11:10AM EST anonymous Tocotronic 1536 Thu, Nov 18, 11:43AM EST fear A bit of iorny, the dozer dude doing the grading for me up north IS a bass player too! Mostly country... Has anyone seen g@#$% chat @ ???.com, maby we should send a spy over just to see what they say about us! HE he he 1537 Thu, Nov 18, 1:03PM EST anonymous Fuck-em !! 1538 Thu, Nov 18, 2:35PM EST fear ATTENTION!..ATTENTION! MY post above was a joke..repeeting only a joke, No futher hostile comments required. Although I pig headdedly would agree, the reality is that their talents are required in our endevers to produce instrumental harmony, inwhich the passions of each diciplen should be enbraced by the outhers, respected and built upon. Unless this premmis is highly upheld by all concerend, the exercise will be a monumental leap into tonal humillity. 1539 Thu, Nov 18, 3:22PM EST old-timer Here,Here....fear-you said it ! In as much as gui%^&r players are indeed a nessesary evil we really have to rise above the raw emotions and,as always, become the voice of reason for the good of all concerned ! Thus is the burdon of the bass player ! 1540 Thu, Nov 18, 3:30PM EST old-timer Our lot in life,so to speak,the under-estimated,under-appreciated,under-used bass player.It is not in our vocabulary to say things like "turn up my gui^&*r", "put the spotlight on me!","my solo is'nt long enough","I should get all the girls!" and on and on.... 1541 Thu, Nov 18, 3:31PM EST Dan The Bassist YEAH! Amen to that! 1542 Thu, Nov 18, 3:32PM EST StingRay5 my first bass rig was an 80$ Eldegas and a 100 watt Yamaha amp given to me by my brother who had just quit bass for guitar. i wanted to play guitar too...can you beleive i actually called a music store to ask how much it would cost to turn the bass into a guitar. i've been playing bass for 13 years now, (not with the eldegas) and i would not trade it for another instrument 1543 Thu, Nov 18, 3:35PM EST old-timer Let us,as the superior musicians that we are, show patience and understanding to these poor souls that had to take up playing gui^&*r because the bass was to hard for them ! 1544 Thu, Nov 18, 3:36PM EST when i tell people i play bass, i often get this reaction "it's a little easier than guitar, isn't it ?"....... to wich i always answer, "depends what you do with them " 1545 Thu, Nov 18, 3:37PM EST old-timer StingRay...welcome to our fraternity-the Bottom Line. 1546 Thu, Nov 18, 3:38PM EST old-timer Some people just don't get it ! 1547 Thu, Nov 18, 3:38PM EST StingRay5 thanks old timer! ,i've been here a few times already but a while ago 1548 Thu, Nov 18, 3:39PM EST old-timer Dan...StingRay...have you tried the live chat? 1549 Thu, Nov 18, 3:40PM EST StingRay5 not yet 1550 Thu, Nov 18, 3:41PM EST StingRay5 i'm actually in school right now, i shouldn't even be on this chat, much less the live one. LOL 1551 Thu, Nov 18, 3:42PM EST old-timer Give it a try - I'll wait there 1552 Thu, Nov 18, 3:43PM EST old-timer Maybe later... 1553 Thu, Nov 18, 3:45PM EST StingRay5 had a lot of fun reading about everyone first rigs. i still have the eldegas but it's now "neckless", i busted the truss rod while trying to adjust it. 1554 Thu, Nov 18, 3:53PM EST Thumpin >Skiball: I had a Memphis P-bass copy as my first axe too! It did look cool! Played it through my first amp - a Peavey something or rather (I think it was a 12" speaker). After playing quite a few different basses since then, my '70 P-bass is hard to top. Full, funky and solid. 1555 Thu, Nov 18, 4:06PM EST fear O.T THUNPIN yall on? 1556 Thu, Nov 18, 4:32PM EST fear DAGNABBIT!, just missed ya. O.T RTC tomorrow AT 4:30 my time central OK? 1557 Thu, Nov 18, 5:23PM EST anonymous anybody up in vegas 1558 Thu, Nov 18, 5:28PM EST AMP DOGG hey ladies AMP DIGGY in da house WHATS UP? Vegas style! 1559 Thu, Nov 18, 5:39PM EST fear speak bro gigin? 1560 Thu, Nov 18, 5:51PM EST fear Just out of curiosity, how many of yall drive pickup trucks,and do you nickname your axe's? I drive a 99 dodge quad 4x4, for those deep woods gigs,ha ha / the Ibanez is 'thumper' the takamime jasmine accoustic is 'taco' it was bought in san antonio tx and the carvin? I dont know yet. 1561 Thu, Nov 18, 5:56PM EST How's about "Starvin Carvin" or "Marvin the Carvin" 1562 Thu, Nov 18, 6:02PM EST fear 1563 Thu, Nov 18, 6:04PM EST fear WHO ARE YOU ANYWAY? 1564 Thu, Nov 18, 6:11PM EST fear how about...nivrac....yea right, I,m Out 1565 Thu, Nov 18, 7:08PM EST Rich Rich Custom Alembic and my bass amp was two SVT'S 8 x 10's in each, no one can touch this set up. I got my attitude from my guitar player friends. 1566 Thu, Nov 18, 7:09PM EST old-timer fear...how's about a Durango and I really don't have any name's for my basses . 1567 Thu, Nov 18, 7:11PM EST old-timer Rich2...you started out with that stuff? 1568 Thu, Nov 18, 7:13PM EST old-timer Rich2...I think we all have a tude' Our's is more understated. 1569 Thu, Nov 18, 7:23PM EST old-timer I've got another question for you guys....What song gives you the most satisfaction to play and play well.The song that, when you nail it, you're walking on cloud 9! You know this is an ego check... 1570 Thu, Nov 18, 9:12PM EST big g fear>aerostar 4x4,toyota flatbed 4x4, subaru wagon 4x4(do we see any similarities? I live in the deep woods an need em to get out. Only bass I've named is "Pearl", my handcarved gibson. When you see it you will know why. I have jpegs if anyone is interested. Email me at rumblethump@yahoo.com. OT>>my answer would be "What is Hip". 1571 Thu, Nov 18, 9:20PM EST joker hello 1572 Thu, Nov 18, 9:21PM EST joker anyone here? 1573 Thu, Nov 18, 9:21PM EST joker hello 1574 Thu, Nov 18, 9:22PM EST Mr.Bass O.t.> You must have been reading my mind, today I was thinking about this same question, only I was going to add which song did/do you absolutely hate to play that may have been part of one of your bands songlist that you had no choice but to play it? Two that I really enjoyed were Living Colors Cult of Personality, (but it only felt good when the entire band nailed it)and this is going back a few(+20) years but Roundabout by YES. And the one I can't stomach is Ain't To Proud To Beg. 1575 Thu, Nov 18, 11:18PM EST bunch-0-basses big G....wanna sell pearl?.....and to disco boy...NO Gibson/Tobias and pos is not an oxymoron......the moron was me for ordering the pos to begin with.. its heavy....blocky ...unbalanced...and the craftmanship was Sh*t...the only thing good about it was the electronics....bartolinis....doesnt hold a candle to Ken Smith ...and K S cant touch the DSI.....now that that is off my chest....my favorite tune to play ....hhhhmmmm...since we dont do covers...it would have to be "turn it up"...and the tune i hate the most .....hhhmmm...PROUDMARY....if i never play it again ill be delighted...... 1576 Thu, Nov 18, 11:20PM EST bunch-0-basses hell if i never hear it again ill be even more delighted 1577 Fri, Nov 19, 0:17AM EST Thumpin OT> For my favorite bass tune that I feel like I have nailed it would have to be "Mustang Sally." I love Wilson Pickett's style anyway. I found I can sing the tune while still throwing in the necessary groove. But I love "I Feel Good" too - just wouldn't be able to sing it! 1578 Fri, Nov 19, 1:00AM EST Disco Boy Fav tune would be Chick Corea's Spain, least fav would be Reunited..B.O.B> I take it you really didn't like that Tobias, he is a great guy if you ever met him. 1579 Fri, Nov 19, 8:37AM EST Little Richard I FEEEEEEEL GOOOD! dunananana... I knew that I would now..dunanana..SO GOOD! da da SO GOOD! da daa daa DAAAAAAAAAA! 1580 Fri, Nov 19, 9:22AM EST big g B O Bs>>Sell Pearl, not a chance. That Tobias you had, it was the gibson version wasn't it??? They should change their name to "The bass guitar and amp devestation Co". They buy it, its gone in 2 years. Tobias, Steinberger, Trace Elliot (not gone yet, but give em time). Whos next??? Song I hate to play or even hear requested, Cocaine. 1581 Fri, Nov 19, 9:58AM EST Fear BEST song, (HATE the words but love the groove) snortin whisky by P.T and one I came up with called rock a by blues. The "grin and bear it would be that Neal young thing(shiver)hea hea my my. >> big g I bet it wont be ampeg! 1582 Fri, Nov 19, 10:01AM EST JUST WALKIN" 20YRS+ LEAD VOCALS,ANY REQUEST? NO COMMENT.PLAYING BASS NOW ,THE LAST 4 YRS.[what can i say]ITS THE GREATEST! ALRIGHT GUYS,LETS DO IT! FREEBIRD!! 1583 Fri, Nov 19, 10:04AM EST Fear OH NO... big would love to see pratrl 1584 Fri, Nov 19, 10:08AM EST JUST WALKIN BASS,ICS-FENDER- 1585 Fri, Nov 19, 10:16AM EST Fear THATs PEARL trying to do two things at once 1586 Fri, Nov 19, 10:18AM EST big g fear>pratrl?? 1587 Fri, Nov 19, 10:20AM EST big g fear>whats your addy. I lost my address book when I f disked. If you dont want to drop it here,send it to rumblethump@yahoo.com 1588 Fri, Nov 19, 10:47AM EST fear big g>> done and gotta leave for a while 1589 Fri, Nov 19, 11:22AM EST big g fear>didn't arrive. 1590 Fri, Nov 19, 11:49AM EST fear big g it said sent but cant del. bcc msg, will try again 1591 Fri, Nov 19, 11:55AM EST big g darn free email accts. I guess you get what you pay for. LOL Still not there. 1592 Fri, Nov 19, 12:06AM EST fear Par for the days events!! I just tried to open a MSN acct HA server cant be found! I'll go to yahoo and try stand by 1593 Fri, Nov 19, 12:49AM EST fear My e-mail is basstomuch@yahoo.com if any one is interested 1594 Fri, Nov 19, 12:51AM EST Thumpin >big g: I'm with you on avoiding playing "Cocaine" for the millionth time. Same with "Wonderful Tonight." Both tunes do have pretty cool bass parts, it's just that after so many times of playing them, they seem to lose their luster! 1595 Fri, Nov 19, 1:06PM EST fear Hi thumpin.. I wonder how the artist that made them feel after the gazillanth time? 1596 Fri, Nov 19, 2:05PM EST anonymous to find the personality,of the band you call your own.like the Smashing Pumpkins.just jammin! Why play it the same all the time? Could it be so easy? 1597 Fri, Nov 19, 2:10PM EST big g fear>>>pic should be there. 1598 Fri, Nov 19, 2:15PM EST fear AND then suddenly , their was silence. Like some overpowering spirt came down and plucked each one from their lair...one by one..untill none remained. The spirt they call.. HUNGER PAIN!! LETs EAT !! 1599 Fri, Nov 19, 2:27PM EST fear WOW! THAT AIN'T NO BASS..Thats a work of ART! VERY IMPRESSIVE G UH..guys .. HE AIN't SELL'IN 1600 Fri, Nov 19, 2:32PM EST big g Tanx fear 1601 Fri, Nov 19, 2:49PM EST compare? Songlist.-Bittersweet,FUEL-Violet high,CYCLEFLY-Crackerman,S.T.P.-Do the vampire,SUPERDRAG-Dive,NIRVANA. 1602 Fri, Nov 19, 3:02PM EST bunch-0-basses big G...disco boy....you guys really get it.....your right on....Gibson ruined everthing Mike Tobias built....and yes that one was a gibson/tobias... and it was a POS....and i mean junk....im gonna miss yall...gotta shout 3 day tour...leavi this afternoon.......seeyall monday nite...... 1603 Fri, Nov 19, 3:03PM EST bunch-0-basses i didnt type that too well did I ....oh well you get the drift....latah... 1604 Fri, Nov 19, 3:37PM EST kickass Short lip fueser,ROCKET FROM THE CRYPT-Redefine,INCUBUS-A charming spell,SPLASHDOWN-Savior,OUTHOUSE. 1605 Fri, Nov 19, 7:51PM EST anonymousandthensome I agree, Wonderful Tonight is another one that will put you to sleep 1606 Fri, Nov 19, 7:56PM EST anonymousandthensome Just curious, but when you guys play in an unfamiliar time signature like 7/4 or 5/4 do you try and count it out, or just try and feel it. For instance there are some songs like Brubecks Take Five that if you just could play the lick you are playing in 5 and there is no need to count it out. But then theres Jeff Becks Head for Backstage Pass that goes in to 11 the last 16 bars and I always have to count it out. 1607 Fri, Nov 19, 8:05PM EST Azbug anon+: for me it depends; Do I have time to work it out? If so, I will definitely do as much review as possible with the time allowed. If there is no time, well, there are times in a guy's life where he just has to go for it...I see 7's & 5's usually as bridges in the middle of a tune where you can normally feel a change coming and just do my best to lock with the kick and feel my way thru'. Take Five is one of my all-time fave feels. That tune is nuthin' but pocket! 1608 Fri, Nov 19, 10:39PM EST LOWNOTZ real bands play original tunes. That is true groove. Why would one want to try to duplicate someone elses art. An artist paints his picture on canvas, a musician paints his picture on silence. THINK about it. Be original. 1609 Fri, Nov 19, 10:48PM EST Thumpin >LowNotz: Thanks for your opinion. Some of us do play songs that we enjoy that might not all be originals; I hope that you understand everyone is different. 1610 Fri, Nov 19, 11:27PM EST NIRVANA A main influence in todays alter.rock.hard hitting drummer.great bass player.RAW 3 piece band! Who? Curt Cobain.one of our greatest song writers of all time. 1611 Fri, Nov 19, 11:37PM EST Funk Knutz First Rig- Hagstrom 8-string through a Vox cabinet w/an 18" speaker and a concrete lined bottom on the cabinet. One heavy m%%# but what a great sound. Favourite song- When my prog rock band nails Chameleon. We have an arrangement where everyone gets to solo. Gets those booties on the dance floor because our basic groove never fades away. Ego City- Last solo got me a Standing "O". Least favourite would have to be "Wild Thing." My reg. rock band guitarist only thinks he's Hendrix. >LOWNOTZ- Many Great artists learn by copying the works of The Masters First. This helps them develop their own style. Picasso was originally a Neo-Impressionist. After he used the masters to help develop his own style the rest became history. He painted many a canvas before his own style came to full fruition. Such is art-IMHO 1612 Fri, Nov 19, 11:39PM EST NIRVANA A main influence in todays alter.rock.hard hitting drummer,great bass player.RAW 3 piece band! who? Curt Cobain,one of our greatest song writers.OPINION????? 1613 Fri, Nov 19, 11:59PM EST anonymous >Cobain wrote some decent material. Every Decade has 2 or 3 power trios that leave their mark. 60's Cream, Hendrix, seventies Z.Z> Topp and Rush, Eighties Nirvana and someone else...90's any opinions since this ones almost over. 1614 Fri, Nov 19, 11:59PM EST Funk Knutz OOOPS!!! That would have been me 1615 Sat, Nov 20, 1:04AM EST Mr. PIbb eveining! 1616 Sat, Nov 20, 1:05AM EST Mr. Pibb All asleep, I guess 1617 Sat, Nov 20, 9:00AM EST lownotz hey guys your right. All i wanted to do was get some dialogue going. I too learned from learning others tunes. And now as an original music bassist, you gotta know I throw in grooves and lickes taken from other tunes. Thats just how its done I LOVE THIS PLACE 1618 Sat, Nov 20, 10:05AM EST newby hi, I've just stepped from behind the soundboard of a christian rock band to begin playing bass. I've played guitar for a long time, but bass is new to me. Right now, I'm playing a bass that a friend loaned me. It's a harmony that he bought at a pawn shop. He replaced the pickups and did some other work to it. It's not bad. But the action is a little high. He wants to sell it to me for around 200 bucks with the gig bag, which he says cost him 50. Is this a good buy? I'm thinking I'd really like to have a new instrument and I'm not sure that the Harmony is worth 200. I've been looking at Dean Edge basses. Are they any good? Help! Newby 1619 Sat, Nov 20, 10:48AM EST big g newby, you have had a chance to play the Harmony, now try the Dean and let your ears and hands tell you if its better. I haven't had a chance to play one myself, but at $270 you couldn't go wrong if YOU like it. Also buying new, you get a warranty. My current fave is the blowout sale on Korean Steinbergers. I have a 17 year old Cort version and my bet is they are made at the same factory. YMMV button check these out. 1620 Sat, Nov 20, 11:35AM EST anonymous I would suggest,a fender-P or Jazz.but,its what you want.for around $700 you cant beat fender.VIDEOS-rarely do you anything but,fender basses.not putting any other basses down. But,the most popular for more reasons than price.Find what you want,and lay it away. 1621 Sat, Nov 20, 1:02PM EST crimins Hi guys. Back from the mountains of north GA. Stopped in Atlanta on the way back at Guitar Center and tried a few high-ends. Some Pedullas & Zons. I didn't like the Zon that much but the Pedullas were real nice. I'll be heading to Bass Central in Orlando soon to see what's there. I'm finally going to get my 5-OH birthday present 8 months late. I'll be looking at Smiths, Laklands, maybe Modulus, maybe a used Sadowsky if I can find one. I figure I've been playing for 33 years, I'm 50 years old, I've got the money, so why not go out for a high-end bass. I've never owned one worth over $700-$800, so it's time. Of course, I had to promised the wife that this was it. No more. I've currently got 4, and one will have to go when I get the noew one. Probably the Yamaha RBX 5-string. Any suggestions on a new one? By the way - favorite song to nail (this is tough), I guess Birdland. Least favorite - hands down it's Sleep Walk (Santo & Johnnie) - showing my age again. 1622 Sat, Nov 20, 1:18PM EST BASS What about Richenbacher-4001,etc. Always wanted to check one out. Any Info ?? 1623 Sat, Nov 20, 1:31PM EST old-timer Funk ...I like your reasoning concerning the way to develop a style of your own. Nirvana..you have your opinion and it deserves to be respected along with everyone else's. This seperates us from the monkeys and gui#%^r players ! 1624 Sat, Nov 20, 1:34PM EST old-timer newbie....go to every music store you can,try every bass you can,take your time and buy the bass your heart tells you-because that is where you're playing is going to come from ! 1625 Sat, Nov 20, 1:46PM EST old-timer crimins...at our age and with our experience(dues paying !)find your dream bass and buy it ! I did this for myself about a year ago, I've collected about 20 very nice basses, not high-end,let's say upper-middle class (1-2 thousand range). I found a Custom made Alembic SeriesII that was everything I ever wanted in a bass ,and some,I fought with myself for the longest time over it.Do I really need it?...Do I have the money?..Anyway, I bought it and even after playing since 1963,this bass renewed my enthusiasm and made me play better!It is the LAST Bass I will buy...what does that tell you? 1626 Sat, Nov 20, 1:49PM EST old-timer Gettin some good chat material in here lately...way to go guys! 1627 Sat, Nov 20, 2:43PM EST BASS-AMPS ? Would like some advice on a good bass amp? Around,3 or 400 watts.should I have more power?for just your average gigs,and outsiders in the summer. 1628 Sat, Nov 20, 3:20PM EST go with the 3 watter 1629 Sat, Nov 20, 8:48PM EST Mr. Bass anon+> If I encounter an odd time signature I will work it out first and know the subdivisions if its 11/4, after playing it for a while I will try and feel it and not count it. This works best for me. O.t> I have similiar, a lot of mid priced basses, I am thinking of taking the plunge on a high end bass, looking at the Zons. 1630 Sat, Nov 20, 10:44PM EST anon BASS AMPS> Carvin has some smaller amps that may do the job 1631 Sun, Nov 21, 0:54AM EST Skiball Crimmins>> Let me know when your comming to O Town. I havent been in B.C. for a while. they're #1 U.S. Lakland dealer I hear. Dop a line at spiderweb@freewwweb.com 1632 Sun, Nov 21, 8:50AM EST anonymous does anyone know where i can get info on defretting a bass 1633 Sun, Nov 21, 9:46AM EST anonymous I'd appreciate any recommendations on any good books to get on technique 1634 Sun, Nov 21, 12:43AM EST PLACEBO?? Does anyone,besides me.Like Placebo?I really liked"Pure morning"&"Every you,every me".Vocalist sounds a little like Geddy Lee [musicaly,no comparison] with good vocal effects.NOT even compairing anyone with RUSH.I started playing in the 70s,RUSH,YES,STEELY DAN,etc. Another band I like is"CYCLEFLY" With same type of vocals as[lets say Placebo".I really like,Violet high-by Cyclefly. Any INFO? about more Cyclefly? 1635 Sun, Nov 21, 3:53PM EST crimins Skiball > will do. Probably won't be until after Christmas, though. 1636 Sun, Nov 21, 4:00PM EST crimins By the way, I'm going to be in Denver, CO from Dec. 1 -10. Anyone know of any decent gear stores to check out in the Denver/Boulder area? 1637 Sun, Nov 21, 4:29PM EST Skiball Crimmins>> Look forward to it. Hey all>> Dig this kook- Played a formal gala/fundraiser at a local hoidy-toidi college. The event was held in the baseball stadium! Ice sculpture on the pitchers mound,tables around the infeild, guests in tuxes and gowns wearing sneakers! oh yea-the band? Set up in the home teams dugout!! Every time I hit a low F the aluminum bleachers RUMBLEE! hee heee...... 1638 Sun, Nov 21, 8:13PM EST anonymous Ski> What was the feeling of hitting the low 'E'? 1639 Sun, Nov 21, 9:12PM EST Melanie I'm a beginner (6 mos.) and need a decent amp. I've been told Ampeg is the way to go? Why? Any tips on bass shopping? 1640 Sun, Nov 21, 10:25PM EST anonymous Ampeg ,is a very good way to go.has a good sound just raw [ with no effects]. 1641 Sun, Nov 21, 10:37PM EST ALEMBIC Ron McGee from THE VALLEY SOURCE FOR ALEMBIC I am a ALEMBIC only dealer so if anyone is interested in ALEMBICS mighty line of basses guitars or rackmount equipment im at Email alembiconly@cableone.net some feel the could never own a new alembic but they start at only $1260.00 YES these are real ALEMBICS made in SANTA ROSA CALIf BY the same people tht make all of ALEMBIC products THANX RON 1642 Sun, Nov 21, 11:32PM EST BASSMAN WHERE CAN I GET TABS FOR PUNK MUSIC 1643 Sun, Nov 21, 11:39PM EST Rbacker G player went off into blues land and I went waling with him, this would be the song that had me on cloud 9. Just kept it moving and grooving. what a gas. Glad to see the chat is well. take care my friends. 1644 Sun, Nov 21, 11:41PM EST Rbacker And that Hand carved axe G has is flat beautifull. Have to see it in person to get a good look though. Nite all and take care 1645 Mon, Nov 22, 8:33AM EST big g melanie>SWR Workingman series is good also. A little more HiFi sounding. 1646 Mon, Nov 22, 9:43AM EST fear Johnnie A going to send it today (rm) thinking of vidio tapeing build up. Wont start till after hollidays 1647 Mon, Nov 22, 9:56AM EST fear Big g & lowfer thanks much for the advice AND congrats on the carve job! 1648 Mon, Nov 22, 9:59AM EST fear GOT 3 days to get a weeks worth done, better get to it, later E-ONE 1649 Mon, Nov 22, 12:36AM EST anonymous WANTED-Mesa Boogie Strategy 500 Power Amp.If anyone knows where I can locate one please contact me at strawberryjam@earthlink.net ~Philco~ 1650 Mon, Nov 22, 3:06PM EST anonymous Info on a good setting for Mid.Frequency? Settings:150hz.to 4k. ? 1651 Mon, Nov 22, 4:29PM EST fear IS this for real?? www.usbass.com ,if button dont work 1652 Mon, Nov 22, 4:39PM EST 1653 Mon, Nov 22, 5:35PM EST fear TRY that again 1654 Mon, Nov 22, 5:58PM EST Mr.Bass fear> That site is someone having way to much time on thier hands. 1655 Mon, Nov 22, 6:00PM EST anonymous From time to time,I scan through this chat line.and there is a lot of good communication that goes on between everyone.No matter how simple the questions may be,to the hardest technical ones.I see musicians helping each other. But,as it may be.there is always a asshole or two,with smart ass remarks.whether they are deprived,and angry because they are.or one of those guys who played a 4 song show without a singer.and think their the best. Should stay off the net,Ive heard the phrase-troll. Ive always liked "barbie dolls. No need for names.Its very obvious. 1656 Mon, Nov 22, 6:15PM EST wondering What the hell are you talking about? 1657 Mon, Nov 22, 7:45PM EST DeLeif Where's Bob Daisley? 1658 Mon, Nov 22, 8:59PM EST First Bass wondering> I agree, what the hell is anonymous you talking about? 1659 Mon, Nov 22, 9:05PM EST First Bass omit that 2nd "you" 1660 Tue, Nov 23, 1:59AM EST Funk Knutz Perhaps it is merely a matter of simple transferance. That person sounds quite judgemental, and full of hidden anger. I'm sure we all know transferance. Remember the famous fart sayings from grade school. I.E.- The smeller is the feller. He who smelt it dealt it. And other such luminary ideas are perfect, though somewhat crude examples of transferance. I feel sorry for poor anonymous and his dog. He probably farts a lot and blames the poor dog constantly. Then again- he could be a dyslexic atheist and not even believe in dog. 1661 Tue, Nov 23, 2:00AM EST Funk Knutz The previous ramblings were brought to you by a long and somewhat monotonous gig. 1662 Tue, Nov 23, 9:45AM EST fear MR BASS>>Thought so, but 25000 watt rig sounds impressive don't it! ha ha, They need to add an electric plug in pick to give to your favorite g%^$@#$ player.HE he, ANOM.who wanted to know how to defret, look at tbl (The Botton Line) and I think their was an article in BASS PLAYER MAG not long ago AS far as the bad carma thing goes I view it as bugs on the windsheld,, they will wash off after a while,look past it and it wont bother you.>> Frank WHAT happened at the gig!? 1663 Tue, Nov 23, 9:56AM EST Bass chick I'm in the market for a new bass. I've only ever owned passive basses and would like some input on the pro's and con's of active basses. Thanks. : ) 1664 Tue, Nov 23, 10:46AM EST fear Bass chick HI and welcome! I have juat bought a Carvin LB 70 with active/passive elects A wonderful bass and would recomend it. The active is a per amp and will boost output also has a boost /cut for mid and hi signals, works well. In passive mode it's very J bass, good mid range growl. the trick if tou wanted to shift on the fly is to adjust so that the sound becomes fuller and not overpowering , unless that is what you need ,it will do that too!! 1665 Tue, Nov 23, 10:49AM EST fear excuse type o's 1666 Tue, Nov 23, 11:16AM EST big g Bc>Pro: active gives you the advantage of tone on the fly. If your bass mix is bass light, you can boost it without running back to your amp. If your too middy, you can back it off. You bassically have an amp at your fingertips. I own both active and passive. The funny thing my 5 string first came active only and I thought it sounded killer. I put a active-passive system in it and now I prefer it passive and only use active to do the above things. With an A/P system if your battery dies, you can switch back to passive and keep playing. CON: It can be a real drag to have a battery die on stage. 1667 Tue, Nov 23, 11:20AM EST levite mornin yall...... 1668 Tue, Nov 23, 11:25AM EST levite mornin yall...... 1669 Tue, Nov 23, 11:25AM EST levite sheesh....gotcha yall twice der.....hmmm...fas on de trigger dis mownin... 1670 Tue, Nov 23, 11:27AM EST fear HOW long will the battery last 20 hr's the book said, unplug bass when not in use or battery will die over night. a fresh battery should last an all nighter I would think. 1671 Tue, Nov 23, 11:31AM EST JohnnieA fear>>> O.K. I'm ready.... 1672 Tue, Nov 23, 11:38AM EST fear LEVITE is da crawdads in season? 1673 Tue, Nov 23, 11:43AM EST fear Morning John IT's on its way today mail will pu at noon. will I be the First user install publicly? 1674 Tue, Nov 23, 11:45AM EST JohnnieA fear>> you will be numero uno for a kit!! 1675 Tue, Nov 23, 11:45AM EST levite fear...nope....da crawfish wont start fo a nudder munth...but da shrimp is going full tilt.....and crabs....sheesh las nyte i got bout 80 crabs in less den two hours......ate till i coundnt stand up....... 1676 Tue, Nov 23, 11:53AM EST fear Levite Sounde uhmm UHMM but gotta watch the yeller stf in da veins doc said. but ill snecks on or two nowanden!that carvin is a gooden 1677 Tue, Nov 23, 11:58AM EST fear....so ya lyke da carvin....dazgud....i juz got a carvin amp....the 600 with 2 10s....but i left it home this trip and took the swr..... 1678 Tue, Nov 23, 12:01AM EST fear JOHN guess I best do a good job huh! get the giasses ready! This might call for a toast! levite you can bring the dads! 1679 Tue, Nov 23, 12:05AM EST oh yea....sure can....how bout a cajun deep fried turduckin...thaz a a chicken inside a duck ...inside a turkey....deep fried....talk about goood...specially with lots of cayanne and toni chachere's spice.....hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm 1680 Tue, Nov 23, 12:13AM EST fear WOA,IS that fo rel ars ya gest pullin my chain? Wife made Quail- cordon bleu and its outta site. Thinkin usin cavvin platform fo SSS project neck thru. 1681 Tue, Nov 23, 12:22AM EST fear DUDE YOUR GONNA GET ME HOOKED TYPING THIS WAY HA HA I've got a hard time as it is LOL! JOHN sence g#%%@ had to back out DO YOU HAVE ANY ILL FEELINGS ABOUT USING CARVIN 1682 Tue, Nov 23, 12:37AM EST JohnnieA fear>> nope, not at all.. seems Carvin would make a great platform. 1683 Tue, Nov 23, 12:55AM EST devious Allo What are topics? 1684 Tue, Nov 23, 1:03PM EST FEAR I think that HB 2 they offer will bolt right on. IDONO pu wise is still a option at this point.GOTTA order the WOOD PARTS from em , Raw body for now. all this food talk now I'm hungey.THANKS LEVITE, YOU DROP A TURDUCKIN on us and SPLIT! HEHE,I"M out. 1685 Tue, Nov 23, 1:16PM EST levite jonnie....when you get the neck thru....send me one ...ill try it....and report back to you.... whacha tinkboutdat.? 1686 Tue, Nov 23, 2:34PM EST JohnnieA levite>> not me mon... fear be doin the mod don't cha know.. 1687 Tue, Nov 23, 2:44PM EST levite o yea....ok...well send me one anyway....(you can trust me)....seriously i would like to try the neck thru version....what wood selection do you propose.? 1688 Tue, Nov 23, 2:51PM EST JohnnieA I like maple body wings, rock maple neck and ebony board. would have stock cut for two left, two right, rather than 4 in-line, for sustain. JMO, everybody has thier own wood preference. 1689 Tue, Nov 23, 2:51PM EST JohnnieA what do you like?? 1690 Tue, Nov 23, 3:20PM EST levite ...i really like walnut wings...with maybe a quilt top....and rock maple neck with wenge stringers....but 5 strings...gotta have that looowwww B 1691 Tue, Nov 23, 3:24PM EST levite or lace wood wings.....mellow sounds......What pickups do you use....? 1692 Tue, Nov 23, 3:28PM EST JohnnieA EMG...only because they're internally shielded, use 25K pots and can operate at 18v with zero noise. I've tried Barts active and like em, but the shielding issue leans me more to the EMGs. 1693 Tue, Nov 23, 3:31PM EST levite i know what you mean....i like the Ken Smith pickups too..... 1694 Tue, Nov 23, 3:32PM EST levite my barts....only get noisy if you turn the highs all the way up. 1695 Tue, Nov 23, 3:57PM EST levite my barts....only get noisy if you turn the highs all the way up. 1696 Tue, Nov 23, 4:14PM EST Fear John its on its way. Sounds like EMG's will be the way to go. Wound up eatin at mickie d's BLAUGHH! was like card board after all that good stuff. 1697 Tue, Nov 23, 4:33PM EST Fear ANYONE got a turkey day gig to shair. WE BE JAMMIN AT THE HOUSE if weather ok we be outside, kinda a block party thing.AND I get to hit the MONO BRIDGE SWITCH yessir! 1698 Tue, Nov 23, 4:41PM EST levite we have a thanksgiving concert friday night at Throne OF Grace Church..... 1699 Tue, Nov 23, 4:42PM EST old-timer Hi Guys..what's new.Sounds like some of you's are movin basses to one another.. I see the SSS mentioned...is there anything happening on that? 1700 Tue, Nov 23, 4:43PM EST old-timer Can you guys switch over to the live chat....? 1701 Tue, Nov 23, 4:43PM EST levite hows it gwon old timer...??.. 1702 Tue, Nov 23, 4:43PM EST levite how do we do that..? 1703 Tue, Nov 23, 4:48PM EST old-timer Go back to the opening page of this chat and click on live chat 1704 Tue, Nov 23, 4:49PM EST old-timer Still here levite...fear... 1705 Tue, Nov 23, 5:05PM EST Fear WAS SURFIN WILL TRY 1706 Tue, Nov 23, 5:18PM EST big g levite>here for live chat button 1707 Tue, Nov 23, 5:49PM EST anonymous JUST ENTER THE INFO WHERE ITSAYS newbi and press connect in the small window type in your msg. and hit enter on your key board. dont worry with the larger window that has red writing with your name. 1708 Tue, Nov 23, 7:14PM EST jimbo where can i find scales for the bass guitar. all i seem to find are tabs. 1709 Tue, Nov 23, 9:14PM EST Mr. Bass Fear> Good luck with that Carvin! I love mine, and I found out the hard way that the info on the battery is correct, mine is really difficult to change since its jammed in there so tight. 1710 Wed, Nov 24, 9:22AM EST fear I did a side by side comparison between the Ibanez and the carvin, same amp (gk 15 in) same settings, same songs, I was surpeized at how hard I would have to play the Ibanez to get tone. My guess to compare the carvin to a really high end bass like zon, pendula, ect. My guess is that all you would have to do is think of the note and it would play it! 1711 Wed, Nov 24, 9:27AM EST fear OH by the way Carvins nick name is "old man" because it has a face in the quilt mapel. 1712 Wed, Nov 24, 10:35AM EST big g When I got my LB75, after playing it for several hours, I played many 5s from $800 to $1500 range and couldn't find a better bass. YMMV Hope everyone has a great turkey day. Give thanks for our many blessings. This year it falls on my wifes birthday and I aint letting her touch a pot or pan. We goin out. tanx for the tip on USBASS.com, I got an order in for a gazzilion watt amp. hehehe 5 electrical plugs that must be plugged into different circuits, my dream amp. 1713 Wed, Nov 24, 11:09AM EST Thumpin Another Carvin plug: I owned an LB76... a six at an unheard of price...killer tome and growl...I regret having sold it to get my electric upright. But I want to keep my Clevinger and my '70 Precision; perhaps I'll save up for another LB76 later.... 1714 Wed, Nov 24, 11:10AM EST Thumpin >That's killer TONE 1715 Wed, Nov 24, 11:14AM EST Thumpin My daughter is watching "Arthur" and a smile just widened across my face. The background music for cartoon includes the unmistakeable funk of a Kubicki Factor. Does anyone know if Stu Hamm is working on Arthur? 1716 Wed, Nov 24, 12:06AM EST fear HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MRS G !! I just cut my mid finger "left hand" on some floor panels, on the side near the tip. Givin Thanks allready it wasn't ON the tip! Big g<< didya see the mic on US BasS ? IF it were gag gifts they would be cool, nonfunctional of course, some idot would plug it in! 1717 Wed, Nov 24, 12:17AM EST big g The PDF files are a riot. I'm shoppin for a 15K generator. LOL 1718 Wed, Nov 24, 12:26AM EST fear HA HA HA!! I'll be livin about 2mi. from a hydroelect dam. oughta do the trick. 1719 Wed, Nov 24, 12:30AM EST fear ITS bean time in "Clioton land" gonna munch fer awhile 1720 Wed, Nov 24, 12:45AM EST We need stuff like this to thin out the heard. 1721 Wed, Nov 24, 1:14PM EST levite the bayou blaster of bassland ...im gonna order a 5000 watt head...hook it up to 96 tens...and 45 18s...and set them right behind the keyboard player....and then hit a low B with the volume all the wayup and the bass boost maxed..........******that would be heaven.***** 1722 Wed, Nov 24, 1:20PM EST levite the bayou blaster of bassland ...im gonna order a 5000 watt head...hook it up to 96 tens...and 45 18s...and set them right behind the keyboard player....and then hit a low B with the volume all the wayup and the bass boost maxed..........******that would be heaven.***** 1723 Wed, Nov 24, 1:26PM EST fear YOU BE 2 Blocks away and wireless When ya do.Might be messy, yano like one o them martin fellers from da movie when mars attacks hehe 1724 Wed, Nov 24, 1:27PM EST levite the bayou blaster of bassland ...im gonna order a 5000 watt head...hook it up to 96 tens...and 45 18s...and set them right behind the keyboard player....and then hit a low B with the volume all the wayup and the bass boost maxed..........******that would be heaven.***** 1725 Wed, Nov 24, 1:29PM EST levite the bayou blaster of bassland ...dat aint all....imm gonna hook da blasted keys direct to the lightbar... everynote he hits...pops a bulb.......iiieeeee 1726 Wed, Nov 24, 1:35PM EST fear BOY dat key board player musta really F'ed it up! did you ever make it to live chat? 1727 Wed, Nov 24, 1:53PM EST it wont let me in for some silly reason...... 1728 Wed, Nov 24, 2:00PM EST anonymous FOLLOW G's button and read anom's tip I'll go their and wate. After you post hit enter on your key board.That was what threw me 1729 Wed, Nov 24, 2:13PM EST fear that was me, what do ya see after G's button? 1730 Wed, Nov 24, 3:13PM EST big g up or down > hair 1731 Wed, Nov 24, 3:53PM EST fear the song or the musical? 1732 Wed, Nov 24, 7:16PM EST song 1733 Wed, Nov 24, 7:18PM EST hello, is anybody in here. 1734 Wed, Nov 24, 7:19PM EST fear, are you here? 1735 Wed, Nov 24, 7:23PM EST later 1736 Wed, Nov 24, 8:18PM EST Bass not the fish Does anyone play a B.C. Rich, I think this bass has the best neck I have tried? Are they still being made? 1737 Wed, Nov 24, 10:21PM EST Funk Knutz Here's a wishing everyone a Great Thanksgiving. Don't forget to BAST your turkey's every hour on the hour. 1738 Wed, Nov 24, 11:36PM EST TO THE BAST 1739 Thu, Nov 25, 9:15AM EST King BassBalls Happy Thanksgiving everyone! 1740 Thu, Nov 25, 1:26PM EST Skiball Peace and Thanksgiving from Steve,Tanya, and those wascalley felines- Mickey & Jazz. Take care y'all!! 1741 Thu, Nov 25, 7:23PM EST levite...the bunch-0-basses and a happy thanksgiving to all the lowenders from David, Lauri, Karie, Kristi, Rebecca, Daione', and CallieBelle Sanders...from Bayou Choupique, Louisiana..... 1742 Thu, Nov 25, 7:25PM EST levite...the bunch-0-basses oh yea and i forgot....phydeaux.....he says ...arf arf.. 1743 Thu, Nov 25, 10:19PM EST BFannatic Happy Thanksgiving to all 1744 Thu, Nov 25, 10:33PM EST Mr. Bass Happy Thanksgiving to all my low end brothers! 1745 Fri, Nov 26, 9:12AM EST Mr.Bass Bass Not The Fish> I have a B.C. Rich, I also like the feel of the neck, always liked the body style, my one compliant is the electronics, mine has that vari-tone switch that I refer to as the nasal tone switch, if they had concentrated more on the sound of the bass it would be one of my favs. 1746 Fri, Nov 26, 10:47AM EST big g Mr Bass>time to swap in new PUS. hehehe 1747 Fri, Nov 26, 11:16AM EST Mr. Bass big g> That's on my Christmas list ;) 1748 Fri, Nov 26, 11:38AM EST Rbacker Simes family hoping everyone T-day was good. Kids gone, wife shopping, gotta go record some songs to learn. Finally got it through to the G#$%^r player that maybe we should learn some stuff that is "sellable" at a gig instead of 15 minute guitar solo's. Have a good one all. 1749 Fri, Nov 26, 11:40AM EST Rbacker Oh yeah, they want me to take a couple of solo's and am wondering if you guys have any pedals you use to change you sound to "cut through" and make yourselves heard. Thanks in advance. Shure 57 mic is on it's way. Thanks for the responses. 1750 Fri, Nov 26, 11:40AM EST Rbacker course I could just crank the amp to 11, it's one louder. 1751 Fri, Nov 26, 11:51AM EST old-timer Rbacker....Depending on what you intend to play in your solo (slap,single notes,double-stops) I find a mix of Flange and Chorus brings the nuances of the bass out quite nicely. Stay away from reverb and echo.Also always use some Compression to balance your output.Or...you could turn up to 11. 1752 Fri, Nov 26, 11:56AM EST big g Rb Check out the danelectro fab tone. Larry graham likes em. 1753 Fri, Nov 26, 12:04AM EST lowlifer Rb you have a built in chorus on the amp you got from me. You just need a footswitch to control it and the active EQ. 1754 Fri, Nov 26, 12:20AM EST bunch-0-basses or you can just plug your bass direct to the 110 outlet....you can order the cord on usbass.......then instead of playing a solo....everyone can watch you fry.....talk about put the gui**r player on the back burner...iiiieeeee 1755 Fri, Nov 26, 12:41AM EST big g blackend bassist, new cajun dish?? IIIEEEEE, not me 1756 Fri, Nov 26, 1:19PM EST .....****buurrrpp*** 1757 Fri, Nov 26, 1:32PM EST but dat ain all....den we gonna hook da keyboard to 1758 Fri, Nov 26, 1:33PM EST but dat ain all....den we gonna hook da keyboard to 220,,,,talk about a bonfire .....charedB3....i luv it..... 1759 Fri, Nov 26, 1:33PM EST do you guys have "bassplayer leash laws?" 1760 Fri, Nov 26, 1:36PM EST levite .....no ...we never get outta da groove.....why would we need a leash.......iiiiieeeeee 1761 Fri, Nov 26, 1:43PM EST levite the bunch-0-basses bad boy of the bayou... whacha call a dude that hangs around musicians......?? a drummer.....iiieeeeeee 1762 Fri, Nov 26, 4:47PM EST Thumpin >Bass not the fish: I owned a BC Rich Mockingbird awhile back...the neck was very playable. The body style is exclusive. It was nice and light...but I wasn't too happy with the electronics either..If I had kept it longer I would have replaced the pickups. 1763 Fri, Nov 26, 5:21PM EST bajero hello 1764 Fri, Nov 26, 6:06PM EST Tommy is anyone in here? 1765 Fri, Nov 26, 6:07PM EST Tommy just in case some one who cares sees this, i am in search or some techniques, execises, or advise that has helped others out. check out my band at www.thirdreason.com 1766 Fri, Nov 26, 8:54PM EST King BassBalls Bass not the fish>>>I have two BC Richs. One American made, one Japanese made. I like the backwards P-style PU in the Japanese one. Has a big growl. Sounds great recorded. I think its called "Son of a Rich". 1767 Fri, Nov 26, 8:59PM EST Skiball Rbacker>> How ya been bro!? On your post about audible bass tones- I assume yuore not slapping on a Rick, but spiking the high mids (around 1k) will make that rascal grunt! Ive always got a Geddy/Squire tone that way in my metal days.Done banged out all my hair I guess! iiieeeeiiiiiiii! 1768 Fri, Nov 26, 8:59PM EST Skiball KBB? 1769 Fri, Nov 26, 10:54PM EST bassben Any one knows how to do the triplet slap on the bass? 1770 Fri, Nov 26, 11:23PM EST Skiball bassben>> Check out Dave LaRue's collumn in later 96 BP magazine. (No offence BF). He has riffs tabbed out in his at button But its basicaly T-P-P going thumb-index-middle on the right hand. 1771 Sat, Nov 27, 1:32AM EST IamGod hello 1772 Sat, Nov 27, 1:33AM EST IamGod i am a learner anyone know all the notes 1773 Sat, Nov 27, 11:45AM EST Does anyone have opinions regarding an SWR SM900 with the Goliath III (4x10)versus the Gallien Krueger RB2000 with the Gallien Kreuger 410T cab? I'm looking for a set up suitable for mid to large size rooms and want a loud, clean sound. Thanks 1774 Sat, Nov 27, 1:00PM EST 1bassdude Bud, I would think that the SWR rig would get you that "modern" sound...if that's what you're after. But if you want loud and full range, I'd get the Henry the 8X8 cab--It has the volume and freq. range. Just one man's opinion...and we know about opinions...there like belly buttons--everyone has one (rated G version). 1775 Sat, Nov 27, 1:03PM EST 1bassdude By the way, anyone got an opinion (yea...right) on doing a re-cone job or swapping out a speaker from a GK 115T cab? Currently, it has a 200w EV that appears to have seen a little overheating action. Thanks! If a swap, what would you recommend? One person suggested that the EV is an upscale driver that should be re-coned. 1776 Sat, Nov 27, 2:28PM EST Thanks 1bassdude, I'm trying to get a little feedback re: rigs before I head to the stores so that I can have an idea of what to try. So far I've been doing my research online. What do you mean by "modern" sound? 1777 Sat, Nov 27, 2:32PM EST Would there be a big difference between using the Henry8x8 vs. 2 Goliath lll cabs? 1778 Sat, Nov 27, 5:24PM EST anonymousandthensome levite> I didnt think that joke was funny. haha... Some drummers I know are the most knowledgeable in the band. Can someone tell me, why would you need a six string bass in a country band if you don't do any solos? Whats the point? 1779 Sat, Nov 27, 5:29PM EST anonymousandthensome I think six string basses make it easier for guitarists to make the switch over and call themselves bassists. One last word, when you start going to six strings I dont think you can call it a "BASS" anymore, it actually becomes a different instrument. I hope I didn't step on too many toes this time, just callin it like I see it. 1780 Sat, Nov 27, 7:14PM EST Rbacker anon, got to "look" good! Because if you rook good, you feel good and you play mahvolous. 1781 Sat, Nov 27, 7:20PM EST Rbacker Only way to fry me is 480v. 110 just tickles and 220 makes me jumpy. Cut a little demo song for a local church last night. lots of fun. Guys I play with old bassist showed up last night, likes to play a lot of notes for sure. was kind of fun playing with two bassists though. I took the octave up high. Learn something new every day. 1782 Sat, Nov 27, 7:23PM EST Rbacker thanks for the input on the tone change. I usually play the Ibenez since it is lighter and a little deeper. Played the Rick last night though, Took Motrin this morning for the shoulder. 1783 Sat, Nov 27, 7:27PM EST Rbacker Ski, all is well, thanks for askin'. 1784 Sat, Nov 27, 7:28PM EST Rbacker Have a good Sunday all, first time in church for me in about 4 months, 5 days from work does a body good. 1785 Sat, Nov 27, 7:45PM EST Go Seachickens!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1786 Sat, Nov 27, 8:09PM EST Welcome to BASS NORTHWEST The Largest BASS ONLY Store In The World! We are proud to be a store owned and operated by and for bass players! Store Hours: M-F 12 noon to 7 p.m. & Saturday 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. PST We Ship Worldwide! How to Order Store Tour Staff Special Sale Items Used Basses Exotic Bass Sale!! New Standard Basses Used Amps & Cabs New Amps & Combos New Speaker Cabs New Effects Units Raven Labs Gear Accessories Bass NW T-Shirts Bass Fun Links Bass Company Links Need To Sell Some Bass Gear? E-Mail to Bass Northwest 1787 Sat, Nov 27, 8:10PM EST Rbacker sorry guys, tried to do the button thing and this is what I got. 1788 Sat, Nov 27, 8:29PM EST crimins Hey, Bass NW is pretty cool anyway. No harm done. 1789 Sat, Nov 27, 8:34PM EST 1790 Sat, Nov 27, 10:09PM EST 1bassdude Bud, Modern sound is a hi-fi radio sound or very refined. Not a traditional rock-n-roll growl (i tried...). I just saw on another site that someone made a good observation about the Henry 8x8 cab in that you can't get the high volumes that can be had from a cab full of 10's. I guess the thing to do is...try them both out. Best to see if the music store will let you try them out on a gig in YOUR operating environment...not the store's. Good Luck. 1791 Sat, Nov 27, 10:13PM EST 1bassdude Bass Northwest...I requested some info. and a couple of digital pics on a couple of used cabs and...nothing happened. They just blew me off. I ended up buying a cab on ebay. So much for customer service! Needless to say...I wasn't impressed. I do like Bass Central in Orlando. Those guys have always been responsive (www.basecentral.com). 1792 Sat, Nov 27, 11:28PM EST Funk Knutz >Rbacker- You can always go to one of those wonderful old fashioned devices called a volume pedal. I have used them in the past with great success. It also allows you to keep your tone locked. >Bud- I have found that using two cabinets 1x15 Mesa Boogie and 2x10 is more than enough for any small to medium gig. Mesa cabinets are built for excellent wattage to sound transmission ratios. You would be amazed how loud 75 pure watts is when it goes through the right set of speakers. I have two "Ancient" Traynor Bass Master heads. 1 for each cabinet. Hook your bass up to an A/B box, and if the G*#&^r player refuses to cool his jets you can run A&B simulataneously via a simple stomp of the box. I've been known to use this setup in conjunction with the aforementioned volume pedal.It's Low Tech Heaven, with a nice warm tubey,yet somewhat refined tone. 1793 Sat, Nov 27, 11:30PM EST Funk Knutz Hope everyone had a great T-Day. I made sure we BASSTED that turkey big time. "Quick honey- it's been an hour-TO THE BAST! 1794 Sat, Nov 27, 11:41PM EST Funk Knutz Anonymousandthensome- While many purists are not fans of the six-(I personally prefer the four string myself, I've sat with Chuck Rainey several times and watched him RIP EVERYONE a new Belly Button (G-Rated). He's usually doing it with this wonderfully old beat up Warrior Bass that was given to him by the company. They asked him to design one for himself, but he just can't let go of this particular one. So again-to each their own. If by chance some guitar player picked up a six string-I'm certain he wouldn't be able to lay down the groove that Mr. Chuck could pump out. 1795 Sat, Nov 27, 11:42PM EST Funk Knutz There I go again-just a ramblin' guy. 1796 Sun, Nov 28, 1:21AM EST lowlifer RB if you want to try out a volume pedal, I have a EB pedal you can borrow. 1797 Sun, Nov 28, 2:36AM EST anonymous Hello. Is there someone out there that can advise me as to what diferences I might feel or hear on a maple neck as opposed to a rosewood? 1798 Sun, Nov 28, 6:34AM EST 1bassdude Rosewood fretboard is generally "warmer" than the bright sound off a maple fretboard. 1799 Sun, Nov 28, 9:25AM EST big g 1bassdude>I'm finding even though just about everyone has a website, that most don't pay any attention to their e-mail. When I was shopping for a wireless, I sent many questions out to both stores and manufacturers, and got less than a 25% response rate. Was ready to buy one from local Sacramento store, and never heard a thing back. Guess what? They didn't get the sale. Had to e-mail Yamaha twice, Cort 4 times, before getting a response to questions. This was after giving them weeks to respond. Too bad more dont follow through. 1800 Sun, Nov 28, 9:26AM EST big g anon>slappers tend to go for maple for the brightness, I prefer rosewood or ebony. 1801 Sun, Nov 28, 10:13AM EST 1bassdude Big g: You're right about the poor reponse rate. I guess they are not a web savvy as they would like ya to believe...and the mfg's are really poor at responding via email. Maybe the marketeers should do a study on how many bassists use the Internet and email. It might be enlightning. 1802 Sun, Nov 28, 11:05AM EST anonymousandthensome Is slapping still the rage, or has it died down some, and do you think it has to be part of a bassists itenerary nowadays? And do you think it has been overdone? 1803 Sun, Nov 28, 11:08AM EST anonymousandthensome It's like they dont have someone taking care of the email responses, it seems it gets left to whoever has some free time or just after a coffee break. 1804 Sun, Nov 28, 12:18AM EST Skiball Some thoghts to share: Happiness is a journey, not a destination. Work like you dont need money, love like yuo've never been hurt and play whats in your soul! (sorry, I get like this sometimes) 1805 Sun, Nov 28, 12:38AM EST big g aats>thats it, not enough coffee breaks. :^) For me, slapping is fun to practice,but not much use for it in the music I'm playing. Just another weapon in my arsenal. 1806 Sun, Nov 28, 1:06PM EST old-timer How's this..in a nutshell....learn every style you can...practice every style you can... be able to play every style you can ! Not to pick on gui*(&r players again,how many can set the fretboard on fire with solo's, but can't play a solid chord pattern for a whole song ? 1807 Sun, Nov 28, 1:09PM EST old-timer Just as there are set rules to playing styles nothing say's you cant bend them, use your head to learn and your heart to play . WE are , after all , BASS players ! 1808 Sun, Nov 28, 1:11PM EST anonymous I am anon... Ok, call me Closet Artist as I have my computer in a walk-in closet. Thankyou for the responses... I ordered an ernieball stingray5. I'm actually a guitarist and prefered the rosewood neck on guitars because the wood is poreous and allows me to slide around on it better. But on a bass guitar I don't know that it matters that much. I just want a good sound. I like the looks of a maple neck better but since I'm not likely to go back to stage-work, I guess sound for recording is most important. I don't slap much although I used that sound off the computer synth with some neat results. Am I going to notice that much difference? 1809 Sun, Nov 28, 5:01PM EST closetartist Wow. That shut everyone down for the afternoon. I guess I need a life. 1810 Sun, Nov 28, 5:15PM EST big g closetartist>either can sound good. Did you order it with a maple neck? 1811 Sun, Nov 28, 5:44PM EST Back on the slap topic,I wouldn't say it's still "the rage" per say,but I do think it's just one of the tools that you need to know in being a bassist I think.(to be a well rounded bassist that is)I almost hate to say it,but I credit Flea for bringing it out to the mainstream.Don't get me wrong I dig Graham,Clarke and Lewis Johnson. But I think in the early 90's he was more out front as far as a bassist.(but hey i still think tapping is still cool!) 1812 Sun, Nov 28, 5:58PM EST big g Out back too...... 1813 Sun, Nov 28, 6:10PM EST Funk Knutz I dig both necks for slapping. Rosewood does get a nice dark sound, but when slapping maple seems to have just a shade more physical bounce. This can be important for speed. Just make sure speed and flash don't upset the groove, which will skew the pocket, losing you important phone calls, and then stuck with empty pockets. 1814 Sun, Nov 28, 6:13PM EST Funk Knutz That should be but then maple.........but when? Man I am getting senile a young age. The only fun part is wking up, looking in the mirroe, and finding a new friend every morning. 1815 Sun, Nov 28, 6:13PM EST Funk Knutz Who'se got my spell check? 1816 Sun, Nov 28, 6:32PM EST big g Maple probably has more bounce cause they have a finish on them. 1817 Sun, Nov 28, 6:38PM EST I think maple works best for on a Fender jazz or a Musicman for or old school style basses. 1818 Sun, Nov 28, 7:54PM EST SEVEN STR. WHATS UP DUDES 1819 Sun, Nov 28, 7:56PM EST SEVEN STR. ANYBODY THERE 1820 Sun, Nov 28, 8:27PM EST Mr.Bass aats> I still dig slapping, but like big g there's not a demand for it in the music I am currently playing also, its a cool tool to have when the occasion arises. I more or less practice it for fun. 1821 Sun, Nov 28, 9:58PM EST c.artist The Bass will have a rosewood neck. I think I will worry about making this guitar carry the song over the edge and get on with life. 1822 Sun, Nov 28, 10:31PM EST GROWL Any fretless junkies out there? 1823 Sun, Nov 28, 10:45PM EST Funk Knutz Slapping is great fun. Especially when you can spell it too (see my earlier postings). There is a great demand for it in many kinds of music. I realize it doesn't sound real versatile for standard rock or blues, but it's possibilities in prog. rock...fusion...heavy metal bop (yes Virginia there is a heavy metal bop movement), and light rock are practically limitless. When my mind was heading out to left field earlier this year I realized that Country music recycles everything. As the slap style seems to be on the verge of obsolescence I am waiting to hear the slap lines come flooding out of the Nashville District shortly. All speculation aside, it wouldn't hurt to realize that slap helped revitalize the resurgence of its cousin Finger Funk, and that certainly hasn't hurt Rocco's notoriety as of late. 1824 Sun, Nov 28, 11:10PM EST Skiball OK- Not to bash our light stringed bandmates, but why is it that nearly all bassist at least dabble in slap or tap technique but only a hand full of g#*&@^ists can say they even own a slide? 1825 Mon, Nov 29, 0:30AM EST Rbacker Just checking the Rush sites, I didn't know Neil's wife died of cancer as well. I pray for the man, first his daughter, than his wife. I give thanks to God for my family and their health. 1826 Mon, Nov 29, 3:44AM EST 1827 Mon, Nov 29, 9:35AM EST bunch-o-basses ...the history proffesor... funk nutz.... not to put anybody down...but twangtown (nville) started the slap technique ...yes tis true enuff ....back when the upright was the only bass....nashvill cats were slapping away at it.....listen to some real early Johnny Cash....ect......Slap really got its start in Bluegrass music....(sheesh im giving away my age here....)...on my next segment of bass history..i will explore the link between Drain, Ore. and grreeaat bassists......hhhmmmmm....mull that one over..ill be back.... 1828 Mon, Nov 29, 10:05AM EST big g hhhmmmmmm.....mulling.....Gee....now I know what it was about JC that I liked. The Tennesee Two (Carl's tele sound and slap bass). Oh and of course Johnnies bass voice. My early bass influences were all bass voices. "Get a job", Charlie Brown, songs like that. Showin my age here. 1829 Mon, Nov 29, 11:17AM EST big g That brings up another point??? Bass is an extension of my musical voice. I was singing long before I played an instrument. 1830 Mon, Nov 29, 11:31AM EST big g Any of you have a bass "voice" that you admire? Barry White...whew.? 1831 Mon, Nov 29, 11:56AM EST B-0-B how about JD Sumner...or London Paris....sheesh these were GIANT bass voices... 1832 Mon, Nov 29, 11:58AM EST B-0-B big G>..did you read the part obout my next bass history lesson......????? 1833 Mon, Nov 29, 12:00AM EST B-0-B how about JD Sumner...or London Paris....sheesh these were GIANT bass voices... 1834 Mon, Nov 29, 12:00AM EST B-0-B i hate being redudant...sorrrrryyyy 1835 Mon, Nov 29, 12:11AM EST FROM NORWAY HAVE ANY OF YOU GAY`S TRY`D CARVIN R600 1836 Mon, Nov 29, 12:11AM EST FROM NORWAY HAVE ANY OF YOU GAY`S TRY`D CARVIN R600 1837 Mon, Nov 29, 12:12AM EST B-0-B big G...email me your linage as far as you know it in drain....my sister did the family tree thing... kinda kewl...there may be a link......***** 1838 Mon, Nov 29, 12:14AM EST B-0-B i have one.....FINE amp...very loud and clean......i highly recomend it... i also have an swr....i like the carvin better.... 1839 Mon, Nov 29, 12:16AM EST bunch-0-basses .in fact every carvin product ive tried has been very good....i have monitors and mikes from carvin and now the 600 with 2 tens....coupled with my 15jbl...it gives me alll i need and more...... 1840 Mon, Nov 29, 12:34AM EST big g B O Bs> My wife has all that info in her Family Tree program. I'll see what she can dig up. Wont be back until 3:30. Seems to me I saw some lineage wit your last name. We could be potato patch cousins?? The Drain connection?? 1841 Mon, Nov 29, 1:17PM EST buch-0-basses i know my great uncle or something like that was the first mayor.... 1842 Mon, Nov 29, 1:20PM EST My cousins best friend, I think is related. Has your last name. Cousin was raised in Drain. 1843 Mon, Nov 29, 2:21PM EST b-0-b if hes from drain ...with my last name...were related..... 1844 Mon, Nov 29, 2:56PM EST b-0-b ask him if hes related to George Vest Sanders.....thats my great uncle.... 1845 Mon, Nov 29, 4:21PM EST big g b-0-b> you still have email at mailcity? I emailed my cousin in Ore. will let you as soon as he answers. 1846 Mon, Nov 29, 4:56PM EST anonymous 1847 Mon, Nov 29, 4:57PM EST anonymous hello everybody 1848 Mon, Nov 29, 4:58PM EST anonymous hello everybody 1849 Mon, Nov 29, 4:58PM EST anonymous this chat roomisboring 1850 Mon, Nov 29, 4:58PM EST anonymous what is the deal 1851 Mon, Nov 29, 4:59PM EST mary sue this room needs action 1852 Mon, Nov 29, 5:00PM EST mary sue this room needs action 1853 Mon, Nov 29, 6:58PM EST crimins Norway > while B-O-B may be happy with his R600, I have one that blew output transistors on two occasions about two months apart. It's still at the local repair shop, having had the transistors replaced and blown again while on the bench at the shop. My repair guy, a very godd friend, is about ready to send it back to Carvin. All this happened about 3 months after the warranty expired, of course. Otherwise, it was a very versatile amp with a great sound. I just can't recommend it's reliability though. I now have a Yamaha PB-1 pre-amp and a Yamaha P3200 stero power amp that I am very pleased with. Plus my repair guy, (did I mention he was a very good friend?) repairs all makes, and says the Yamahas are some of the best constructed equipment he's ever seen. He says the Carvins that he has seen seem to visit his shop about every 12-15 months. I can't go with that. I've got an old Peavey 400 bass head that is 20 years old and has never failed after hundreds and hundreds of gigs over that time. Got to have that reiability. 1854 Mon, Nov 29, 6:59PM EST crimins that should be "good" friend. sorry 1855 Mon, Nov 29, 7:01PM EST crimins that should be "reliability". Where's my spellcheck? 1856 Mon, Nov 29, 7:43PM EST M.B. Peavey is like Rodney Dangerfield, they get no respect, but just about every bass player I know has one or has had one, like Carvin they are a great value for your money. 1857 Mon, Nov 29, 7:43PM EST M.B. IMHO 1858 Mon, Nov 29, 10:30PM EST Rbacker whippersnapper here, didn't most players "back in the day" slap the upright to get projection out of the instrument? Pre amplified at the Grand ole Oprey? 1859 Mon, Nov 29, 10:52PM EST anonymousandthensome I remember slapping my bass like crazy because the guitarist kept turning up and I kept playing harder and harder, so after a while I turned around and slapped him and that's how I got started with slapping.(Then I picked up the drums)hahaha! 1860 Mon, Nov 29, 10:53PM EST anonymousandthensome Two many gin and tonics last night 1861 Mon, Nov 29, 10:53PM EST anonymousandthensome I am still dizzy 1862 Mon, Nov 29, 11:25PM EST I'll say 1863 Mon, Nov 29, 11:36PM EST anonymous What happens to bass players that dont make it? Ans: They become guitar players. 1864 Tue, Nov 30, 1:35AM EST notanonymous I must say that it seems that the bass player is always in the background on videos or specials on t.v. Why is this? Even though I am a guitar player I have come to realize the value of the bass player. That is that the bass player is perhaps the most important member of the band... perhaps more of a foundation for a good sound than the drummer. A "good" bass player will actually round out the drum beat to a punchy rhythem with carefully placed notes, paying attention to the lengths of those notes as well as knowing when to "miss" a note. The more I fool around with the bass guitar the more I realize just how complicated the sounds are. I get more fun out of focusing on the bass player than any other band member when listening to music. I'm convinced that allot of the great tunes I hear are almost solely great because of the bass player. I guess, though, watching a bass player is pretty boring compared to the physical display of the drummer or the frontman, er... frontperson. So I guess I just answered my own question. Now, bass players' humour... that's another issue. 1865 Tue, Nov 30, 7:01AM EST Nuffstrings4me want to try something real weird ? try stringing your bass BEAD instead of EADG, i garantee you'll be totally lost for the first couple of songs...........but once you get the hang of it....... Who needs a 5 string ?? 1866 Tue, Nov 30, 9:56AM EST fear DID the low B string thru body on my Ibanez. dr's work nice, I have a left over G if anyone is in need. hehe. Trust e-one surived T-day and is well I'm out 1867 Tue, Nov 30, 10:22AM EST fear P.S I found the perfect location on that 43 acers in north Ark. for the outdoor stage. Comes compleate with natural seating, step down leadges that are just the right hight for sitting on. When I saw it the hairs stood up "I have been here before" feeling hit me hard!? IT's GONNA BE GRATE! 1868 Tue, Nov 30, 11:31AM EST JohnnieA fear>> You have mail... it's on it's way!! 1869 Tue, Nov 30, 11:54AM EST fear John, try basstomuch@yahoo.com Excite mail is screwed up 1870 Tue, Nov 30, 12:29AM EST JohnnieA fear>> O.K. resent to that address.... 1871 Tue, Nov 30, 2:37PM EST werty Hi. I can't find the tab of the Manowar/kings of metal/ Sting of a bumblebee. Can You help me? 1872 Tue, Nov 30, 2:39PM EST werty IF someboday have the tab of Manowar/ Sting of a bumblebee Please send it to csapoa@freemail.hu Thakns!!! 1873 Tue, Nov 30, 2:40PM EST drain-0 big G....yep...levite@mailcity.com....thaz it.... 1874 Tue, Nov 30, 6:02PM EST fear JUST IN CASE>>That small cut to my mid finger was just right to be wrong..with the aid of a small bandaid and a drop of ambasol, tooth med, it didn't hurt at all. After the first song the bandaid fell off, I didnt need it anyway, it just kept blood from getting on the strings. 1875 Tue, Nov 30, 6:18PM EST MrDressup anybody have a Nightmare gig story ? i once played a gig for a haloween party and had to dress up as a doctor..........i soon discovered that you can't play bass very well with latex gloves on.......first, they dont slide very well on the strings .......and second, they tend to fill up with sweat after a couple of songs 1876 Tue, Nov 30, 6:23PM EST MrDressup second worst gig ........my amp Hartke 3500 amp blew up after 4 songs so i had to play the rest of the show trying to hear myself through the house mix 1877 Tue, Nov 30, 6:32PM EST MrDressup Third worst gig ...... it was the singer's birthday, so a bunch of his friends bought him a tall glass full of southern comfort for him to drink in one shot........he drank it, sang 3 ou 4 songs, fell on the ground and threw up, we ended up playing instrumental for the rest of the night till some WANNABE singer from the audience volontered to fill in. one song was enough for everyone in the band (and the audience) to see that this guy was more of a "Shower singer" than anything else. 1878 Tue, Nov 30, 6:36PM EST MrDressup i could continue the "TOP TEN WORST GIGS" countdown, but i don't think it would amuse anyone but me ......HAHAHAHA 1879 Tue, Nov 30, 6:46PM EST notanonymous How about playing a whole set with your fly open (by accident). The table full of girls that came to see you actually come to see you.(can I say that?) Or doing the big rock-kick splits thing and you jump farther than your cord will allow... suddenly things don't sound like they should. 1880 Tue, Nov 30, 7:17PM EST MrDressup HAHAHAHAH good one, and i thought i was the only one to have nightmare gigs 1881 Tue, Nov 30, 7:22PM EST notanonymous One time we were playing a bar. Apparently that night the Beach Boys were in town doing a mega concert. Later that night, while we were in the middle a lame set, who strolls in but most of the Beach Boys and crew. To my horror our drummer starts in with the lamest rendition of Barbara-Ann you have ever heard and naturally we have to join in and finish the song. Just what the beach boys wanted to hear ,I'll bet. They politely told us we were great, and left. 1882 Tue, Nov 30, 7:32PM EST MrDressup another good one was when our band lauched it'S first oficial album we had this big time publicity on a local radio station that gave away about 50 free tickets to see this supposedly great new band...... we're we ever dissapointed when we hit the first note to see that we were playin' in front of 5 friends and a couple that had gotten free tickets ...............you know you're not that good a band when you give away 50 free tickets and 2 people show up ...........OOOOOOPS 1883 Tue, Nov 30, 7:39PM EST notanonymous Ouch, that hurt. One time we asked for requests and the only one we got that night said "STOP PLAYING" 1884 Tue, Nov 30, 7:40PM EST MrDressup there was also the time when i drank WAY!!!! too many b52 shooters and fell down the strairs (with my bass) while trying to go backstage after a set ............but i'm not gonna go into that 1885 Tue, Nov 30, 7:44PM EST MrDressup or the time whe played for a room full of 60 year olds that thought pearl jam was the latest thing to come out from kraft foods. talk about being booked at the wrong place !!!!! 1886 Tue, Nov 30, 7:45PM EST notanonymous We, MRQ, were the back-up band for the King Bees back when "Tornado" was their hit single. In the news the next day the headline read KINGBEES BOP, MRQ FLOP. 1887 Tue, Nov 30, 7:46PM EST MrDressup we played them a couple of 60's surf hits and then had them dancing to evenflow and Jeremy ! quite a laugh to see the elderly dance to grunge hits ! 1888 Tue, Nov 30, 7:50PM EST MrDressup BOP n' Flop !!! sounds like a fifties dance craze ! HAHA 1889 Tue, Nov 30, 7:53PM EST MrDressup another sad thing to happend is when the battery in your active bass goes dead during a set and you end up sounding like a HOT fry pan full of bacon. 1890 Tue, Nov 30, 7:54PM EST notanonymous Talk about being booked in the wrong place, another band I was in was playing a wedding dance and after the 3rd of 4th song the brides father comes up just a- swing'n and swear'n. He tells us he hired a Watz band and that is what we are going to play for the rest of the night! We only knew 2 actual waltzes and, you guessed it, we played those all night long. Reminds me of Yosimite Sam when he says to Bugs Bunny, "I came to see ya dive an I'ma gonna see ya dive" 1891 Tue, Nov 30, 7:59PM EST notanonymous I heard of another band, who were friends of ours, travelled two hours to a small town gig, opened up the van and discovered they had failed to pack the drum set. 1892 Tue, Nov 30, 8:01PM EST MrDressup i'm just about rollin' on the floor with that waltz thing !!!!!HAHA 1893 Tue, Nov 30, 8:06PM EST MrDressup on another gig, i was flat broke and had to resort to rolling my own cigarettes with rollin' paper and a bag of tabacco ...... .well after the first set .......the bar owner comes up and says "you guys sound good, but must your bass player smoke a joint every 10 minutes !!!" 1894 Tue, Nov 30, 8:13PM EST Funk Knutz >B-O-B- Didn't mean to 'dis anybody, but I was completely caught w/my guard down on Nashville. Too busy thinking electric, and completely forgetting the URB. This is truly sad when you consider URB used to be my primary instrument. 1895 Tue, Nov 30, 8:16PM EST MrDressup hey Funk Knutz........ got a nightmare gig ? 1896 Tue, Nov 30, 8:16PM EST MrDressup read back about 20 messages......you'll get the idea 1897 Tue, Nov 30, 8:33PM EST notanonymous Ha! These are toooo funny. Really takes me back. 1898 Tue, Nov 30, 9:00PM EST notanonymous Now, this borders on not being funny but remember Sure P.A. systems with the 80 pound grey 5 foot columns? The first professional gig I ever played... we set up the columns on the stage in front of the curtains(probably 4 feet high, so 9 feet high all together). During the first break we are talking behind the curtains and the guitarist leans against the curtains. The wall behind the curtain is actually the speaker column and we hear this horrible bang. We come out from behind the curtain to see the column on the floor below the stage and a young boy holding his head. He somehow survived and nothing more (litigation) came out of it. 1899 Tue, Nov 30, 9:40PM EST Does anyone have experience with the Gallien Krueger RB2000 and 410T cab and/or SWR Amps and Cabs (Pro Series)? 1900 Tue, Nov 30, 10:51PM EST crimins Here's my nightmare gig> got a call to back up the Coasters (Charlie Brown, Poison Ivy, etc.) in a small town about 50 miles from here at a high school stadium. It's wintertime, and in north Fla. it can get pretty cool at night. We are supposed to arrive about 1 1/2 hours before the show to go through the set with their guitar player. He is the only musician in the group, the rest are singers. There is a third band on the bill and we are going to use their equipment. Well, we get there on time, but the Coasters guitar player can't find the stadium and he doesn't get there until about 30 minutes before the show starts. So here we are going through these charts he brought, with not enough light to see them well (it's already dark), people are filing into the stadium for the show, and the guitar player is complaining to me about individual notes I'm playing. Sheesh! Give3 me a break - 30 minutes to run through a whole set and he's nit-picking about notes (the were correct by the way - just not the feel he wanted). So the first band plays their set, and then it's time for the Coasters (and us). Well, the guitar player wants our drummer to play a roll on the floor tom, which by the way happened to be an electronic drum kit. So the drum roll came out sounding like a machine gun - rat-tat-tat-tat.... We made it through the set, but not after our guitar player tried to adjust the sound of the Coaster's guitar player in the middle of a song, which REALLY pissed him off. Then the other band came on for a second set, and fortunately for us the Coasters decide to play only about 15 more minutes in their second set because it was so cold the crowd had thinned out. A true gig from hell. Sorry for being so wordy. 1901 Tue, Nov 30, 11:28PM EST Thumpin My gig from hell: Playing a high school party my senior year so many years ago. Our three-piece (without vocalist) was asked to play the party. (My buddy, the party host, kept insisting we play at his bash, not heeding we had no singer) Anyway, you can tell where this is going....we plug in, set up, rip into a vocal-less version of "The Lemon Song," and the guitar player's amp shorts out. Then the drummer's snare and hi-hat break. Someone puts a stereo in the window and cranks it, then our other guitar player just gets drunk and moons the crowd....I don't think anyone could recognize it was someone from the band! You live and learn: always bring reliable equipment, not to mention a singer!!!!! 1902 Wed, Dec 1, 0:21AM EST notanonymous At the risk of losing everyone's respect here, I remember a five piece band I played in with a female singer. I used to put a fan on stage to keep things cool when the rocking got hot. Well, every once in a while, without warning the female, who stood in front of us, would let off a rotten egg which would then get caught in the fan and get dispersed evenly amongst all the band members. I remember the drummer laughing so hard he fell backwards off his throne and we are all just falling all over the place behind her, splitting a gut. But we never lost the beat. And I retired the fan. She sings at allot of funerals and wedding ceremonies now. Nice voice, just a little explosive at times... 1903 Wed, Dec 1, 7:43AM EST anonymous2 My brother had a band that played a lot of community centers, as they were getting into thier first song they noticed the left side seemed to be shorted out, what they didnt realize is that someone unplugged the speaker and was proceding to take it out the door, they started nailing things down after that. 1904 Wed, Dec 1, 9:48AM EST notanonymous What is with those community centers? I remember playing at a Snow Queen dance in a small town community center. During the last break three masked men on skidoos came bolting in through the side door and literally ripped up the dance floor and left in a cloud of oil-mixed gas. 1905 Wed, Dec 1, 11:00AM EST fear It was almost a nightmare for me anyway, house warming for a friend who built a log cabin on the side of a mountain. we were set up on the deck over looking the hill side. the ornimental railing wasnt in yet and had tempo. safty railing in place,yea right!, 2X4's, The Jam was of all things Free Falling. and I was Leaning on the rail, it started to give way slowly. About the time I noticed it so did the drummer, I was past the point of no return and he leeped up and grabed my bass strap and reeled me back in. I went in side and got my long cord and stood next to the house for the rest of the gig. WE did miss a beat 1906 Wed, Dec 1, 11:08AM EST big g Did a wedding reception and our drummer who was s^&t faced went into the ladies room and passed out on the couch. Brother of the bride wanted to kick somebodys butt, and because the dummer was passed out he decided it would be me. A little diversion and I'm heading down the stairs, amp, bass, mic stand, all in one quick trip. Got my money on another day. The guy who got us this gig, we named "bad breath Frank". Whew, when he talked directly at you, your eyes watered. 1907 Wed, Dec 1, 11:47AM EST fear I don't think I've played free falling after that, Some how it disappeared from the set list?? 1908 Wed, Dec 1, 12:26AM EST Thumpin It poured so much one summer (and we relied on a lot of outside gigs) that we were just going to settle on learning Zep's "The Rain Song" in its entirety - as a way of relieving our frustration with the soggy summer of '86. 1909 Wed, Dec 1, 4:49PM EST bunch-0-basses did a state fair a few years back....in Illinois...we were taken to the stage....(about 100 degrees)...it was a covered temp. stage....black plastic...in case it rained....there was a little lake just to our right....about 8:00 pm here comes the mosquitoes....sheeeshe...you can imagine....by the time we finished our set...we all looked like we had lost a big fight....i scratched allll night long.....and the humidity..like to ruined my bass......that was a gig from hell... 1910 Wed, Dec 1, 4:52PM EST bunch-0-basses plus...the bi**h..we were backing...was the rudest so called artist i have ever worked with....and she thot she was gold plated....(by the way...she only had one hit....nobody could stand her..not even her record company) 1911 Wed, Dec 1, 4:54PM EST fear I HATE "SKEETERS"!!! 1912 Wed, Dec 1, 8:19PM EST MrDressup i used to be in this band that played real loud alternative music .......one night whe get booked in this real lame place and the bar owner realised we are a good band but just booked at the wrong place .....so he wants us to have fun anyways..........in between every song he sends us either a beer or a Jack Daniels..........after the second set..... i decide to go and tune up mt bass before the third set (being the perfectionist that i am, i tune after every set, and sometimes during a set).......so i walk on stage, put my bass strap around my neck..........turn on the tuner..........play an open E string and then fall flat on my rear end................after such an episode ..........we cut the third set kinda short and headed for the nearest hotel only to fall fast asleep 1913 Wed, Dec 1, 8:25PM EST MrDressup even though they were not all great experiences ..........i truely miss the cays when i played in a band that giged regularly..... i still have a reminder of the time i spent playing bass in bars....................... that DAWMED ringing in my ears!!! 1914 Wed, Dec 1, 8:26PM EST MrDressup cays should read DAYS ..........sorry 1915 Wed, Dec 1, 8:28PM EST MrDressup WOW !! please forgive my spelling tonite fellow low enders guess i had one too many budS! 1916 Wed, Dec 1, 9:18PM EST crimins Here's another one - not a gig from hell, but a funny occurance. We're playing at a nearby resort on the beach for the usual business seminar guests who are there from up north on a three-day pass. We're outdoors on the deck by the pool, which is also where the guests were served dinner. They were already eating and we were in our second set. Here comes a flock of pelicans flying pretty low - right towards us. You guessed it - they let loose whith some of the most most foul, sardine-smelling s**t right over US, not the guests. Hit a few cymbals (spling, spling, spling) and got our leader right on the head. Needless to say we wre laughing so hard we had to stop the song a do a little cleanup before continuing. It would have been pretty bad if one of the guests had gotten a gob of pelican s**t right in the middle of his Seafood Newberg. Or maybe they wouldn't have even noticed. 1917 Wed, Dec 1, 11:26PM EST notanonymous That's funny... Ive eaten Pelican that tasted like Seafood Newberg s##t. Is there someone bleeping all the swears or are you guys just really polite or something? 1918 Wed, Dec 1, 11:30PM EST notanonymous By the way, I have this incredible ringing in my ears... almost sounds like screaming and white noise and a Queen Mary's whistle all at the same time. What does your's sound like? 1919 Thu, Dec 2, 9:31AM EST fear FOR the record USE EAR PLUGS its never too late to start. Mine sounds like a high pitch whine at 25 k. If were loud, ear plugs are in, thats the rule. When I go to a concert, I take the plugs. 1920 Thu, Dec 2, 9:39AM EST anonymous Ya, those concerts are killers. Went to Bon Jovi without ear plugs. That was three years ago and I'm still paying for it. Never again... 1921 Thu, Dec 2, 9:40AM EST fear Got a Question on a bass run, on the song "cities on flame with rock and roll" what are the notes when the bass and the g#(*&% do the virse run? Can e-mail at basstomuch@yahoo.com . I got money on this one that says I'm right,hehehe 1922 Thu, Dec 2, 9:41AM EST anonymous (That should be notanonymous) 1923 Thu, Dec 2, 9:46AM EST fear AC/DC was WAY to loud When I got out of their NOTHING SOUNDED GOOD. It sounded like I had someone standing behind me with waxpaper wadding it up by both ears... for 36 hrs 1924 Thu, Dec 2, 9:49AM EST notanonymous Oh no, now they are bleeping the g#(*&%! 1925 Thu, Dec 2, 9:55AM EST notanonymous Yes, I saw AC DC as well. They were LOUD but at least you could tell what was being played as opposed to Bon Jovi where the sound man likes that "total band through a fuzz box" sound. (Can I say "fuzz Box", because it is often associated with a g#(*&%) 1926 Thu, Dec 2, 9:56AM EST notanonymous ...guess I can. 1927 Thu, Dec 2, 10:33AM EST Dan The Bassist Hey people. I'm thinking about getting a new bass. I was thinking along the lines of a Squier Affinity P-Bass. Does anyone here have any experience with this bass(good or bad)? 1928 Thu, Dec 2, 12:22AM EST fear DAN>> I dont know how much you play, but if you want an all gig bass that wont kill your wallet, You owe it to your self to at least check out a Carvin, best bass for the $$ IT's not one you will want to trade later. 1929 Thu, Dec 2, 12:49AM EST old-timer Fear..i'm starting to get the feeling you and a couple others here might work for Carvin ,the way you push the product !Am I close ? 1930 Thu, Dec 2, 12:52AM EST old-timer Dan ...take whatever amount you plan on spending and go to every music store you can and try every bass in that price range. Make mental notes of the feature's that each one offers ,then make a decision on which one you liked best. 1931 Thu, Dec 2, 12:56AM EST old-timer Loud concerts...a few of you guys are old enough to remember a band called Blue Cheer ? Something like 135 decibels ....at the back of the hall!! 1932 Thu, Dec 2, 1:18PM EST fear OT>>naw. and your right, shouldnt push products.It would be regretable to not make the road trips and experance all the fine instruments that are avab. as well as THE people. I stand corrected. have YOU GOT ANY INFO ON THE QUESTION i POSTED ABOVE? 1933 Thu, Dec 2, 1:31PM EST fear By the way, We have a Durango too, Razorback RED, GO HOG'S !! 1934 Thu, Dec 2, 2:29PM EST levite fear....sheese...after the razzorbacks got their asses kicked by ELLESSYOU....you have the nerve to say go hogs....???..shouldnt that be GEAUX BAYOU BENGALS? 1935 Thu, Dec 2, 2:45PM EST fear Yea! but I didn't say which WAY now did I hehehe! How you doin tday Mr levite? do you know the song I mentioned above? 1936 Thu, Dec 2, 3:38PM EST King BassBalls OT>>>I had a Blue Cheer album. Vicent Eruptus or something like that. Very heavy, especially for the time (late 60s maybe early 70s?). Ain't no cure for the summertime blues. 1937 Thu, Dec 2, 6:42PM EST old-timer fear...sorry , dont have an answer for ya . KBB..sometimes growing older has it's advantages....at least I try to believe that ! My 2 sons still can't believe some of the albums I have ! 1938 Thu, Dec 2, 9:48PM EST crimins Notanon > I just prefer to be somewhat polite, as do some others. I don't think the language police lurk here. I prefer good (or at least semi-good) manners. G*****R seems to be used in a derogatory sense. But hey, I can be impolite, too. GUITAR, GUITAR, GUITAR. Boy that felt good! By the way - Blue Cheer, one of the worst band ever IMHO. 1939 Thu, Dec 2, 10:07PM EST Rbacker I am a sales rep for Rickenbacker in diguise, My nick name is just a clever attempt at subliminal messages. I am not ashamed to say this as there are so many Fender dealers in this room. 1940 Thu, Dec 2, 10:10PM EST Rbacker But seriously, Had three g!@%%&r players and some drummers who played extremely loud last night, I was wishing for the ear plugs. ringing pretty good today. Going to keep it mellow for a while and watch the noise. Did have a killer time though. Played some stuff that just had everbody locked in and rockin. 1941 Thu, Dec 2, 10:18PM EST notanonymous >crim OW, my freek'n ears... 1942 Thu, Dec 2, 10:26PM EST crimins GO JAGS! 1943 Thu, Dec 2, 10:35PM EST notanonymous Actually, after much thought, I think the ringing in my ears sounds more like a subway train, the tubes of an old television set, and my dishwasher set on "pot scrubber". If anyone can beat that then I would say.............. "that beats me..." What else could I say...? I'm suprised crimins got passed the censorers with that one. On the positive side, it shows he is not a g!@%%&rphobe. 1944 Thu, Dec 2, 10:35PM EST notanonymous Sh$#@$t, they did it again! 1945 Thu, Dec 2, 10:38PM EST King BassBalls crimins>>>I agree. I don't thnk Blue Cheer was a very good band either. You can say this about them though, they were as hard rock as they come. Very different from anything else I had heard at the time. 1946 Thu, Dec 2, 10:49PM EST King BassBalls (one of the Fender salesman) OT>>>I know I must have collected several hundred albums by now. Whenever our band wants to add an old song to our list, they say I know KBB must have a copy of that. And I usually do! 1947 Fri, Dec 3, 0:34AM EST notanonymous By the way, this B.E.A.D. thing: is the G falling by the way side, you know like natural selection and what Darwin says is eventually going to happen to our little toes ?( and big toe for some of us married people) Or perhaps those who snub 5-strings are just stuck with what they have been comfortable with all their musical careers and rather than to go out of their comfort zone, they would rather make fun of the 5-string player therefore legitimizing their choice of 4-string? Or could it be that the B.E.A.D. is just a really intelligent way of having one's cake and eating it? Please.... just a yes or no will do. ...no need for long drawn out answers. By the way, I am not a 5-string bass salesperson. Nor do I have a life. 1948 Fri, Dec 3, 8:41AM EST big g I think BEAD tuning is the econimical way to find out if you need to have a B string, but having the G and being able to play 2 octaves are the advantages of the 5 string. I play lots of notes on the g. One word answer?? NO 1949 Fri, Dec 3, 9:13AM EST test 1950 Fri, Dec 3, 9:20AM EST notanonymous Oh... 1951 Fri, Dec 3, 9:34AM EST fear For laied back p&w the BEAD is working for me,where bass just fills the air, nothing busy. I'm staying low for this anyway not past the 7th fret, but soon will look into a 5 or maby a 6. BEAD takes a little getting used to going the OUTHER WAY for notes. Ampeg seems to be B friendly, BIG GRIN here. 1952 Fri, Dec 3, 9:36AM EST fear Just wish most of the rooms were. 1953 Fri, Dec 3, 9:43AM EST JohnnieA (Fender is just alright with me) fear>> Did you receive a package? 1954 Fri, Dec 3, 10:15AM EST fear Johnnie A>> GONNA PU TODAY AT POST OFFICE AT LUNCH, CLOCK is moving slowwww..hehe. 1955 Fri, Dec 3, 11:00AM EST I have owned fenders and rickenbackers. The rick is a one sound bass, not saying that is good or bad. Almost every song you ever heard was recorded with a fender, especially the older stuff. 1956 Fri, Dec 3, 11:00AM EST I have fenders and rickenbackers. The rick is a one sound bass, not saying that is good or bad. Almost every song you ever heard was recorded with a fender, especially the older stuff. 1957 Fri, Dec 3, 12:21AM EST Evil Carwin Salesman 1958 Fri, Dec 3, 12:22AM EST Evil Carvin Salesman er...Carvin... 1959 Fri, Dec 3, 12:30AM EST Dan The Bassist OT & Fear> The reason I was looking at the Squier is that I am getting rid of my old bass (which has active pickups and leaky batteries screwed up the whole thing).But since the best a pawnshop would give me for it was about $150(i think he was going to sell some of the parts), I'm looking for a relatively inexpensive bass with passive pickups. I've narrowed it down between 3 basses: Squier P-Bass Yamaha RBX260 previously used Rogue LXB200 (i think that's the model) Since I like big basses, I was thinking about the P-Bass. This a good choice? 1960 Fri, Dec 3, 12:48AM EST big g Dan>>If your really set on a P bass, you might think about a MIM Fender. At least it will have a Fender logo on the headstock and will fetch more if you decide to move on to another. You can find one on the used market at about the same price as a new Squire. Of the three you are thinking about, I would be leary of the Rogue/no resale value. It really comes down to which bass plays and sounds the best to YOU. What kind of bass are you selling? 1961 Fri, Dec 3, 12:50AM EST fear Like OT mentioned and I neglicted to because of my excitement over the "new toy" YOUR best bet is to play as many as you can see which one suites you best. Ibanez is ok to, but dont rush it, best to save up a little and get a good one than to get "cheep" and get really disgusted. YOU Bought up a Very good point WATCH THOSE BATTERIES FOLKS!! IF youbont mind me asking , what style of music do play most? 1962 Fri, Dec 3, 12:56AM EST fear ANOTHER option would be to gut the old stuff and replace with a passive set up. There are so many aftermartet products now its un real!! 1963 Fri, Dec 3, 1:36PM EST crimins I'm a Florida boy in Denver, CO and it's snowing like mad. Predicting up to 6". HELP!!!! 1964 Fri, Dec 3, 3:03PM EST fear SEND ME A SNOW BALL!! THUNDER STORMS HERE..WANNA TRADE? Just recieved SSS via mail got packing peanuts all over the truck, Dont care, A VERY quality piece of work. boards are top notch. The instructions are clear and direct no gray area.I like the sticker and it comes WITH battries! Even the packing was pro! WAY TO GO JOHN! Installing Wont be a hassle, but for those who are squemish, a wood working shop can do it>AND I'm sure John wouldn't pass up a SSS mod him self! EA JOHN? 1965 Fri, Dec 3, 4:28PM EST levite fear....whatkind of music do you play? 1966 Fri, Dec 3, 4:30PM EST levite sheese...its snowing like crazy here in south louisiana....gonna geaux ice skating on the bayou tonight. 1967 Fri, Dec 3, 4:31PM EST levite im lying.....God forgive... 1968 Fri, Dec 3, 4:45PM EST fear Levite>>Praise & worship just started few months ago, Cut me teeth on southern rock,MH ,ZZTOP, SKYNARD, and outhers rush, journey, P.F metalica, SRV, pat travers,and outhers. UP beat rock mostly, and some blues too! HOWBOUT u? 1969 Fri, Dec 3, 4:50PM EST JohnnieA fear>>> Whew, Glad it made it o.k. I was starting to get worried when I hadn't heard from you. Thanks for the kudo's.. Make sure you fire it up on the bench asap. No, I'd be to afraid to do one on someone eles axe.. It would worry me to gray hair to not get it right. (make that MORE gray hair). Later and have fun!! 1970 Fri, Dec 3, 4:55PM EST fear OOPPS Guess I jumped the gun, Sorry, DO I need to be ESD to handel the boards? 1971 Fri, Dec 3, 5:07PM EST JohnnieA fear>> since there are no C-MOS parts on the control board and the memoy is non-volital I would say to handle with ESD protection as much as possible. Other wise try to handle boards by the edges. You should be O.K. Have a great weekend! I'm outta here..... 1972 Fri, Dec 3, 5:55PM EST fear NOT RELATED TO BASS but I was watching a med show on DSS the outher night repairing a vein in the brain TALK ABOUT SQUEMISH 1976 Fri, Dec 3, 5:59PM EST fear NOT RELATED TO BASS but I was watching a med show on DSS the outher night repairing a vein in the brain TALK ABOUT SQUEMISH, BURRRrrr Everthing is slow and delicite until he pulls out the 70 k rpm derimal tool! WHEEEEW goto town on that scull bone!! I didn't know it but I was Literly clutching the seat bottom a my wife pointed out. Shes an emt and likes this stuff. AFter that I dont think the SSS body mod will worry me at all. Later E-ONE. 1977 Fri, Dec 3, 6:26PM EST Mr. Bass I missed the nightmare gig, so heres my worst one. I was in a band with TWO female singers, they get into a pretty heated discussion on the way to a gig and weren't talking to one another after that, little did we know that it meant not singing too! We do an intro and go into the first verse with no lead singer, both refused to sing, this enfuriated the drummer and he flung a stick at one of them(I think just to get thier attention), she in turn picked up a mic stand and sent it through his bass drum. Now we have No singing, No drummer, just guitar and bass. It took us a whole set to get things calmed down backstage, good thing it was a road band and not a steady club, we would have been banned for life! 1978 Fri, Dec 3, 7:44PM EST notanonymous Good story! 1979 Fri, Dec 3, 8:45PM EST Mr. Bassgetsmyvote NO CHICKS IN THE BAND.........and you had TWO!!!!!!!! 1980 Fri, Dec 3, 8:55PM EST anon2 Holy Smokes! I would have shot someone! 1981 Fri, Dec 3, 8:55PM EST anon2 jus kiddin' 1982 Fri, Dec 3, 9:10PM EST First Bass M.B.> LMAO! 1983 Fri, Dec 3, 10:46PM EST James Hello,? I'm looking for a used Ibanez BTB four string 1984 Fri, Dec 3, 11:37PM EST Rbacker Johnnie A. Talked with my guitar building buddy about the business today and have a better understanding (I think)of what you are up against. Pretty tough to get started. He even has some big name people playing his stuff (both bass and Guitar) and still has a hard time. Good luck to you and hope it's going well. 1985 Fri, Dec 3, 11:39PM EST Rbacker Have a good weekend all as wife and I are off to Sparks NV to the company X-mas party without the minions. Maybe win enough to buy another bass. Best notes to all. 1986 Sat, Dec 4, 8:30AM EST big g Rbacker>I'll be up that way too. You might check out Bizarre Guitars. Pool tourney going on at the Sands. At least I can spot you in crowd. hehe. Enjoy the X-mas party. 1987 Sat, Dec 4, 1:08PM EST King BassBalls Tonight is my first kook gig of this holiday season. Boy, how time flies. This is for the HOGs (Harley Owners Group). Not really a Hells Angel type group (I think). They collect toys for the underprivilaged. Hope everyone has some good paying, fun gigs this season. 1988 Sat, Dec 4, 2:48PM EST 1989 Sat, Dec 4, 7:49PM EST Can any one help me? I just bought an old jazz and I want to date it. Is there a site I can checkout Or does someone have a book? Here's the SS# 692747 1990 Sat, Dec 4, 8:30PM EST anonymous hello 1991 Sat, Dec 4, 8:31PM EST anonymous do you want sex 1992 Sat, Dec 4, 10:47PM EST unknown Check out "Vintage Guitar" for the jazz. 1993 Sat, Dec 4, 10:54PM EST mike Anyone in the room? 1994 Sun, Dec 5, 11:23AM EST David Hello 1995 Sun, Dec 5, 11:41AM EST Maxxian Hey out there 1996 Sun, Dec 5, 12:08AM EST Skiball wassup Y'all! Some of you may recall my decision to get a Dean 5 string when Im ready because of look, construction, andmost of all the price. But Ithink the ESP LTD has swayed me. They offer neck -thru (rosewood on maple) body (mohogony!!?) same EMG HZ's but ACTIVE with 3 band eq!! And the real seller is the figured (flame maple) top and beutiful finish options! Another nice differne is 34" scale to Deans 35. I dont want to have to make two ajustments to my playing when I pick up a 5. Definitly worth a look button 1997 Sun, Dec 5, 12:49AM EST levite fear...P/W here....im music director for a large church in SW louisiana also music director/arranger/bassist for a gospel artist on malacco records... cut my teeth on R/B...and church music....ours by the way is pure funk... two drummers bass and keys and one light gu$%ar ......kinda like Rick James in church ...oh yea..... 1998 Sun, Dec 5, 1:01PM EST fear HEA Levite I just droped buy to pu some tools and surfed in to take a look are you on now? 1999 Sun, Dec 5, 1:11PM EST fear Guess not, HEERS MY E MAIL I've got some Questions about P&W members and such. basstomuch@yahoo.com If you have time, thanks 2000 Sun, Dec 5, 1:20PM EST Speakerman Can someone tell me if SWR has a web site and what their address is? I can't find a link anywhere. 2001 Sun, Dec 5, 1:29PM EST Ahh, nevermind. Saved by Lycos. 2002 Sun, Dec 5, 5:02PM EST Rbacker For those interested, Speakerman is my little bro. Gave me the Rick out of the geneorosity of his heart. Now he seeks another Rick. Good luck oh little bro. 2003 Sun, Dec 5, 5:06PM EST Rbacker Big G, hope your skill with the table was better than mine. Had to get home to relieve the folks of the minions but I have heard stories of Bizzar Guitar, I feel I must take a field trip to check it out. Party was a lot of fun though. We're almost too big for the Nugget any more though. 2004 Sun, Dec 5, 5:10PM EST Rbacker Jamming etiquet question, Guys were playing a song that completely threw me, could not find key center or a chord root or nothin'. ended up just listening and enjoying. Is it best just to lay out or do you guys keep plugging till you find it? Did sound mighty thin with no bass. 2005 Sun, Dec 5, 5:32PM EST Rbacker guess I could have called time out and asked for the chords though, Next time.... 2006 Sun, Dec 5, 6:39PM EST Thumpin >Rbacker: Yea, it's tricky to just stop things when it's a jam but they should have told you something! I suppose you could watch the g&*$#@ players hands for what chords they were playing. 2007 Sun, Dec 5, 7:18PM EST Mr. Bass Rb>I agree with Thumpin, they should have at least given you the key they were in. Next time just stroll over to the guitar player and ask what key he is in. I lay out unless I think I have a pretty good guess where the progression is going. Many moons ago, I was invited to a jam session by a really fantastic keyboardist and good friend, I brought my Ric and was ready to jam. When I got there I realized it was a straight ahead jazz jam with Dave Liebman on drums(great sax player too)! Here I was into YES and Rush and playing with a pic, trying to find the groove with these full time jazzers. I was lucky enough to be near my friend the keyboardist and he was relaying the chords to me or I would have been very lost. I survived but realized I had a lot of work to do. 2008 Sun, Dec 5, 7:59PM EST wawa whats up my fellow bassies? 2009 Sun, Dec 5, 8:00PM EST wawa keep jammin!!!!!!!!!!!! 2010 Sun, Dec 5, 10:45PM EST Mr.Bass Speakerman> SWR button 2011 Sun, Dec 5, 10:57PM EST Mr.Bass Ski> Let us know about that ESP, I am looking for another bass real soon, Thanks. 2012 Sun, Dec 5, 11:03PM EST Rbaacker still on MB? 2013 Sun, Dec 5, 11:05PM EST Rbaacker thanks for the button, I emailed the page to him. Stuff he knows he should be able to build his own cabinet. 2014 Mon, Dec 6, 1:26AM EST notanonymous I risk getting hurt here but is there a g#$%@! chat room that would be similar to this? OK, I don't mean in intelligence and diction... you guys have it all. I need to ask someone's advice on an acou#$&@. Look, do I have to give excuses yet? Come on, g#@$%ists are people, too... 2015 Mon, Dec 6, 7:42AM EST Mr.Bass notanonymous> Here is one guitar chat room, of course it isn't as good as ours but its a start. :) button 2016 Mon, Dec 6, 9:13AM EST big g notanonymous>try the news groups rec.musicmakers.guitar or alt.guitar. at dejanews. 2017 Mon, Dec 6, 9:22AM EST big g Rbacker>The Sands was berry berry good to me. On my way out of the tournament, my daughter picked a $.25 slot that paid for our trip. Cant wait till shes 21. Bizarre Guitar was killer. Skips doesn't come close. Brand new Tobias 5s for $899. Momma had to use the hook or I'd have new cab. Only complaint, I couldn't find the Funkmasters book of James Brown music. 2018 Mon, Dec 6, 9:47AM EST JohnnieA Rbacker>> I be tryin'... Thanks for the encouragement... Still working on the development of the g@#$ar version... hopefully a proto in 1st quarter 00'.. 2019 Mon, Dec 6, 3:21PM EST jonny How do I find Tabs on this site? 2020 Mon, Dec 6, 3:24PM EST jonny If anyone knows where to get either supernaught by Sabbath or Goldenboy by Primus, could you drop me a line at stairway27@yahoo.com. 2021 Mon, Dec 6, 3:37PM EST Anyone has info/experience with DOD Bass30? 2022 Mon, Dec 6, 4:55PM EST bunch-0-basses if anyone knows where i can get a free bass please let me know... 2023 Mon, Dec 6, 5:05PM EST Dan The Bassist a FREE bass? hmm...try looking in dumpsters, trash cans, etc. 2024 Mon, Dec 6, 6:45PM EST notanonymous I thought free bassing was illegal... yet he was not bleeped by the mystery bleeper. Thanks for the info for the g#%&@ chat rooms! 2025 Mon, Dec 6, 6:58PM EST anonymousandthensome Three ways to get a free bass.. #1) You have to be a household name to most bassists. 2) You have to be in a band that has at least a gold album. #3)You have to be part of the "good old boys club" @ Bass Player mag. 2026 Mon, Dec 6, 8:50PM EST george have match equip de bass 50 wats ampeg 2027 Mon, Dec 6, 9:39PM EST anonymous hello? 2028 Mon, Dec 6, 9:40PM EST Brazilbass It has been almost a year since I came here for the last time. What's new? 2029 Mon, Dec 6, 9:48PM EST Jazzbuc Does anyone know about the quality of Carlos Robelli acoustic basses? 2030 Mon, Dec 6, 9:49PM EST Jazzbuc rather CARLO Robelli bases 2031 Mon, Dec 6, 9:54PM EST hello? 2032 Mon, Dec 6, 10:45PM EST crimins Still in Denver. I spent the weekend hitting just about every music store I could looking for ideas for the new bass I will be acquiring after Christmas. After finding the usual Yamahas (nothing wrong with them, I have one), Fenders, Ibanez, Warwicks (does Guitar Center, woops there's that "G" word, have the market cornered on Warwicks?), etc, I finally found a place in Littleton (yes, that Littleton) that had some Modulus Quantums, Smiths, and on absolutely beautiful, way out my price range MTD. JACKPOT! I liked the Quantums and the Smith 4 just about played itself. So at least now I've got some ideas about what I might be interested in. I haven't tried a Lakland yet, but I'll be going to Bass Central in Orlando to check those out in a few weeks. By the way, the place in Littleton is called Crescendo Music and they also carry Lakland, but had none in stock when I went by there. They have a website, planetbass.com. And it's true, Denver's First Bass has gone into bankruptcy. I went by there, and it's shut down, an empty store. I was really looking forward to visiting. Later. 2033 Mon, Dec 6, 10:59PM EST Rbacker anonand............ got my free bass when bro got married. Now I'm waiting for that surround sound system. 2034 Tue, Dec 7, 7:27AM EST anonymous why can't we say guitarist here ? 2035 Tue, Dec 7, 8:03AM EST Dan The Bassist DON'T SAY THE "G" WORD! AHHHH! 2036 Tue, Dec 7, 9:00AM EST big g anon>you just did. LOL Might be because most of them say were just frustrated g players. KMA 2037 Tue, Dec 7, 11:36AM EST Bassist We are the foundation of all bands! We are BASSIST! WE ARE GODS!!!!! 2038 Tue, Dec 7, 12:37AM EST anonymous anyone out there? 2039 Tue, Dec 7, 1:33PM EST test 2040 Tue, Dec 7, 1:44PM EST at least, one of HIS angels 2041 Tue, Dec 7, 2:36PM EST Azbug I'm not even an Angel....Yet! 2042 Tue, Dec 7, 3:20PM EST The Debil. The angel that was,Cast down! THE Debil......sorry guys 2043 Tue, Dec 7, 5:33PM EST thunderbird 2044 Tue, Dec 7, 5:34PM EST thunderbird does anyone have patched for a zoom 3000b? 2045 Tue, Dec 7, 5:35PM EST thunderbird hello? 2046 Tue, Dec 7, 6:14PM EST kanada need help with scale and arpeggio practice 2047 Tue, Dec 7, 6:14PM EST kanada need help with scale and arpeggio practice 2048 Tue, Dec 7, 6:39PM EST anonymousandthensome Rb> I almost forgot.. that is the 4th way ..hahaha,oh wait a sec...also by inheritance(5th way), which is not as good. 2049 Tue, Dec 7, 11:10PM EST Rbacker Hello all, got to play with a drummer with no sense of time, could do a good double bass roll and stuff, but "time sense" was not there, ended up screwing me up trying to keep him on the beat, missed my changes. Kinda got the chuckles wating the other guys trying to adjust when the beat got turned though. Hope all is well with everyone. 2050 Tue, Dec 7, 11:32PM EST Rbacker that's watching 2051 Tue, Dec 7, 11:37PM EST Mr.Bass Rbacker> I know that feeling, have played with a drummer who would go into a roll and come back off beat, its a real pain. anonandthen> You have a pretty off beat sense of humor :) I couldn't resist that. 2052 Wed, Dec 8, 0:45AM EST Skiball Jazzbuc>> Tha Robelli acoustic bass is one of my favorites!~ Beautiful abalone looking rossette. But most of all it throws sound better than most Ive played. Gotta love the price too! Crimmins>> let me know when you'll be in O'town. Lots of cool places here. 2053 Wed, Dec 8, 1:48AM EST notanonymous This is just a test... g@%$#&. Ok, now I'll see what comes up on the screen. But first, it is interesting that, in the "5 string shootout" in Jan.99 Bassplayer, Musicman scored the highest but I haven't heard any of you mention Musicman. What's up with that? Not good value? Passe? Too boring? What? What? What? Also, I once played with a drummer who could keep perfect time but, get this, he didn't know the on beats from the off beats. So, what would normally be... say... **!***!***!***! where ! is the snare he would sometimes play !***!***!***!*** . Get it? This just about killed me. So one day I couldn't take it anymore and I told him what he was doing. He said he wasn't aware of that. So after that I worked out a signal so that when he did it during a song I would nod or something and he would correct the beat. Even after that he was still not able to see a difference between what was right or wrong. So he just watched me so as to keep on track! Bizzare, not? I think I could think of some other drummers from Bizzaro World. This other one I played with for many years had the philosophy that "anyone could play what the drummer was playing in those songs" so he was going to make it interesting. One of the things he used to do was play flams on his double basses, you know, "to fill out the sound". So, we had a constant drum solo going on behind us. I don't know how anyone could dance to that. Any other goofy drummer experiences out there? 2054 Wed, Dec 8, 6:37AM EST Pacman notannonymous>>>I use a MM Sterling and LOVE it, plus I use a homemade fretless jazz that has a MM style Bartolini in it. I get all sorts of raves on it. You can keep your 2K+ basses :-) Love, Peace and BASS 2055 Wed, Dec 8, 8:03AM EST guitar 2056 Wed, Dec 8, 9:49AM EST g#$#@r 2057 Wed, Dec 8, 9:59AM EST notanonymous Pacman>>>Are you saying that basses made next year and beyond are no good? Why? Ha, someone got passed the bleeper. 2058 Wed, Dec 8, 10:59AM EST Azbug The MM's are nice basses and sound great, and are popular. Evident in the fact that all the makers are coming out with their version of their electronics. The thing that gets me is how they went from a $500-700 Bass to a $1000-1500 Bass shortly after Flea became popular. I think they are still a very nice $500-700 Bass. 2059 Wed, Dec 8, 11:11AM EST Thumpin >Rbacker and notanonymous: I have been there, on stage or in a less "formal" band - with a drummer who did very much like what you guys were describing. It is extremely frustrating. But in both instances, the drummers were in the bands not just because they were drummers...one was good friends with the guitar player (I joined after the drummer did, so seniority had a part in it too); the other booked the band with agents across town...nevertheless, I learned the hard way, if the groove ain't there to your liking, chances are the rest of the band may not be bothered by it as much as the bass player...'cause we're supposed to maintain it...I never have had as much appreciation for GOOD drummers than in the last few years following these fiascos. I'm beginning to ramble...would really like to hear from my low end brothers on this subject! 2060 Wed, Dec 8, 11:28AM EST Thumpin There's column in this month's Bass Player magazine (Learning Curve) that talks about one great drummer's style. "Bonham swings EVERYTHING" writes Bryan Beller. Bonzo was also a deceptively simple player. It's these kind of drummers that I dig so much...who keep it simple...Charlie Watts, Mick Fleetwood, what's the guy's name in INXS? He's solid too.(IMHO) 2061 Wed, Dec 8, 11:44AM EST King BassBalls Bonham is my favorite. A g@#$@r (there goes that damn censor thing) playing friend of mine has many live bootleg Zep recordings he bought somewhere. On those, you can hear screw ups by each of the band members, but not Bonham. He's right there every time, on the money. He also holds down the bottom when JPJ takes off on the keyboards. Don't forget the drummers from Rush and Yes. They're great too! 2062 Wed, Dec 8, 1:50PM EST eggbass I'm in the market for a 4X10 cab. Any suggestions? 2063 Wed, Dec 8, 3:20PM EST big g simplicity=Ringo. Great drummer IMHO. Playing with bad drummers make for very long evenings for the bassist. The last blues band I was in had the worst that I've played longer than one night with. He did one thing ok and no matter how it was counted the song got pulled to his regular tempo. When I tried to help, he took the defensive stance. He was the leader, so I be gone. 2064 Wed, Dec 8, 3:21PM EST Dan The Bassist I can say guitar and not get it bleeped..hmm..must be cuz I'm on a Mac? 2065 Wed, Dec 8, 5:04PM EST BoTToM Could I get some advise for the best distortion effect,for bass.I heard that a standard,Green Muff (whatever a green muff is)? was a good distortion. Whatever youve had experence with? Thanks 2066 Wed, Dec 8, 6:09PM EST Newbie! uhhh....I'm ready to buy my first guitar...a chinese fender squire pbass seems to be my only option. But then I don't know very much...any other alternatives for a similar pice range? 2067 Wed, Dec 8, 6:09PM EST Skiball Hey All! Are we talking fav drummers? Heres mine, Steve Gadd. If you ask why you never heard the cat play. (IMHO) 2068 Wed, Dec 8, 6:10PM EST Newbie! uhhh....I'm ready to buy my first guitar...a chinese fender squire pbass seems to be my only option. But then I don't know very much...any other alternatives for a similar pice range? 2069 Wed, Dec 8, 6:10PM EST Skiball Yo Newbie >> Look into Yamaha. They got a lot 2070 Wed, Dec 8, 6:16PM EST alien hi... anybody here? 2071 Wed, Dec 8, 6:22PM EST Mr. Bass I like any drummer that can keep up with Anthony Jackson! hehehe, BTW Steve Gadd assumes that role very well. 2072 Wed, Dec 8, 6:28PM EST hello?? 2073 Wed, Dec 8, 6:44PM EST old-timer I've found with a little bit of diplomacy you (the bass player)can usually get a drummer to follow you instead of you trying to follow him. Make sense to anyone ? Bassist' run the show ,no brag-just fact, you older guys know what I'm talking about.The bass player is usually the negotiator for every thing that comes up over and above the music itself. Make sense or am I babbling on and on and on.....? 2074 Wed, Dec 8, 6:50PM EST old-timer Maybe because I did'nt sing in any of the bands I was in,that allowed me to do the conducting,so to speak,call the tunes,count the time,keep an eye on the drummer,etc.etc. 2075 Wed, Dec 8, 6:54PM EST old-timer Come on guys, give yourselves a little credit...maybe we are'nt in the spotlight but,listen to a band without a bass and what stands out ? Get it ? 2076 Wed, Dec 8, 6:59PM EST old-timer Who brought up the point about MusicMan prices going up because Flea(and I bow my head at the mear mention of HIS name)used one? You hit it right on the head ! But , at least there would'nt be any belt buckle scratches on the back ! 2077 Wed, Dec 8, 9:51PM EST crimins Fave drummers right now would be David Garibaldi (TOP), Dennis Chambers (Niacin, Alain Caron, etc.), and the guy in Tribal Tech - Covington, I think. 2078 Thu, Dec 9, 0:20AM EST notanonymous Speaking of drummers who kept it simple, how about the drummer for The Eagles. I don't know his name... maybe you mentioned him already. Him and Charlie Watts (Thumpin's) spring to mind for drummers who knew what their job really was. What ever happened to Steve Gadd (Mr. Bass & Skiball's)? ...definitely one of the best. And Poccaro(spelling?) from Toto. Talk about bang-on drumming! >oldtimer, I recall wearing a cloth tucked into my pants to save the back of my g@%$*&. I think they now have a word that describes that behaviour... ANAL. Is it just me or does anyone else want to laugh when they hear that term... anal (probably need a Mac to get that word to come up right). Maybe I just never growed up or something. 2079 Thu, Dec 9, 9:32AM EST jeppy hell 2080 Thu, Dec 9, 10:23AM EST heaven 2081 Thu, Dec 9, 10:27AM EST notanonymous And what ever happened to purgatory... 2082 Thu, Dec 9, 11:16AM EST big g My favorite drummer would be Prarie Prince of the Tubes. His ability to cut time in half and keep it groovin amazes me. I believe he was the studio drummer on Fogartys Eye of the Zombie. OT>> I too agree that we are the conductors of the band. Controling the dynamics is our job. 2083 Thu, Dec 9, 12:29AM EST Thumpin >notanonymous: Don Henley was the drummer (and often lead vocals) for the Eagles. Definitely a tasty musician with sparse, simple parts. Jeff Porcaro of Toto and Steely Dan fame died a few years ago. What an amazing player. Like I said in my earlier message a few days ago, I have come to appreciate drummers like these guys, in light of my experiences (both good and not good). Another guy who I really think has a monster groove is Bernard Purdie, who played on a lot of Steely Dan songs (Babylon Sisters, Home At Last, Deacon Blues, etc.). Also "Hawk" Wilson of BR5-49. He and that upright player SWING! 2084 Thu, Dec 9, 12:47AM EST big g kanada>try here button 2085 Thu, Dec 9, 1:38PM EST old-timer Tough day here in Worcester...memorial for the 6 firefighters....and some of us have a problem as to what bass to play ? Perspective , I think it's called ! 2086 Thu, Dec 9, 5:38PM EST Conklin7string hello out there...im new here... 2087 Thu, Dec 9, 5:39PM EST Conklin7string any suggestions on how to email steve bailey...? 2088 Thu, Dec 9, 6:23PM EST anonymous hello???????????????? 2089 Thu, Dec 9, 6:43PM EST king here 2090 Thu, Dec 9, 6:44PM EST king here 2091 Thu, Dec 9, 7:33PM EST notanonymous Thumpin> Babylon Sisters... wow, what a great display of talent... those songs are soooo perfect. No equipment in the world can match the fun of playing with a good drummer. 2092 Fri, Dec 10, 8:21AM EST Dan The Bassist here's a good question: If a guitarist got lost in the woods, ate some poisonous berries, and a tree fell upon his head... would you steal his guitar, pawn it, and buy lots of bass strings? 2093 Fri, Dec 10, 9:43AM EST big g DTB>>If a guitarist got lost in the woods,(mine gets lost on more than 3 chord songs):ate some poisonous berries (He sometimes smells like he ate something poisonous):, and a tree fell upon his head (wouldn't hurt him) ... would you steal his guitar (Naw, got plenty of real instruments, basses already), pawn it (I hate pawnbrokers, take advantage of someone elses distressed situation), and buy lots of bass strings (I just reboil mine until they're dead)? Hope my answers are as silly as that question?? 2094 Fri, Dec 10, 9:54AM EST notanonymous Answer: No. The drummer you were with was getting antsy because it seemed you guys were going around in circles. So, in a fit of stupidity he tore up the map and through it into a stream. You freeked out at him and, after a one-eyed admission that you were probably no smarter than the g#@%$& and you were sorry for leading him so far into the woods, you ran off into the night. Then you found a house in the middle of nowhere that you think might have been that of Black Sabath and you know the rest... 2095 Fri, Dec 10, 9:59AM EST notanonymous Ya, reboiling... simple and satisfying. 2096 Fri, Dec 10, 11:52AM EST observer anybody home? 2097 Fri, Dec 10, 12:57AM EST I'm at home. 2098 Fri, Dec 10, 3:02PM EST anonymous 2099 Fri, Dec 10, 3:24PM EST mighty deep conversation goin' on here. 2100 Fri, Dec 10, 4:49PM EST anonymous guitarist 2101 Fri, Dec 10, 4:50PM EST anonymous 2102 Fri, Dec 10, 4:58PM EST levite if a guitarist got lost....(that would be nothing new...they never know their surroundings anyway)....i would cheer him on. If he ate poison berries....i would give him acetone to drink (to dilute the poison)..***G**** i would build a fire with his guitar to stay warm with....since i dont think he would be bangin it for awile (at least not until the poison got out of his system....and besides..i dont buy strings....( i have a deal with a manufacturer)......iiieeee 2103 Fri, Dec 10, 4:59PM EST levite big G...i tried reboiling my strings....but it didnt make them any easier to chew...... 2104 Fri, Dec 10, 6:15PM EST notanonymous I thought you were supposed to swallow them whole... shows you what I know. 2105 Fri, Dec 10, 6:17PM EST notanonymous Is it possible some of you bassists have "g%#$@& envy"? (a Freudian concept) 2106 Fri, Dec 10, 6:33PM EST anonymousandthensome I didnt even know a gui*&^st could find the woods! 2107 Fri, Dec 10, 7:02PM EST old-timer Forget all these comments about guitarists , rather than pick on these obviously pigeon-holed,personality challenged,self-centered,pompus(sp.),self-rightous poor souls,we,as the humble bass players of the world, have to put into perspective,this subject and move on to something much more important in the grand scheme of things. 2108 Fri, Dec 10, 7:03PM EST old-timer So...what do you guys want to talk about ? 2109 Fri, Dec 10, 7:07PM EST old-timer So many subjects,so many opinions...As far as basses go, this is after all bass chat,no?, let's hear about those out of the ordinary brands out there .... 2110 Fri, Dec 10, 7:10PM EST old-timer We all know about the obvious brands(Fender,Gibson,Ibanez,etc.)How about some of those "boutique basses" Who's got one...? 2111 Fri, Dec 10, 7:34PM EST Joe the Bartender What is a boutique bass? 2112 Fri, Dec 10, 7:57PM EST First Bass When comparing basses why is it that there is strong disagreement amoung even seasoned players as to what is the best or one of the best basses? For example if you mention Rolls Royce or Ferrari most people will agree these are two excellent auto makers, but you can have a guy say he absolutely hates a Lakland, or Zon and really mean it. 2113 Fri, Dec 10, 8:11PM EST levite the bunch-0-basses bad boy of the bayou ok...here i go...i have a DSI custom...in fact the prototype....neckthru figured walnut body wings...full over 5A quilt top...bartolini custom pu. can be seen at... button ...i think thats right....it plays like buttah....only creamier..... 2114 Fri, Dec 10, 8:11PM EST Brazilbass Hi, anyone here? 2115 Fri, Dec 10, 8:21PM EST lets try that button again...this one should work.... button 2116 Fri, Dec 10, 8:23PM EST levite also have that ...bad Ken Smith custom....the one with the Azola body ...ken smith neck and electronics... like playing a jazz on steroids...kewl tone...but hevy....real hevy.... 2117 Fri, Dec 10, 8:25PM EST see...button 2118 Fri, Dec 10, 8:38PM EST Azbug Cool! We're talkin' 'bout our own toys again! I have a Bossa OB6; Ash body, quilted maple top (quilt laminate P/U covers), hard rock maple neck, ebony fingerboard, with Bossa custom 18V pre. Funkier than three-day-old snot. A Warwick Thumb, neck-thru' 6 string. Solid walnut. Ebony fingerboard. Heavier than I'd like, but I never strap it on for more than 3-4 songs at a time. Just added a Rick Turner 5-string fretless Renessaince to the collection. The thing is a bolt-on but still has sustain 'til tomorrow. I guess my most "Exotic" would be my Azola 5-string floatring top Bug EUB. When I die they will have to pry it outta my hands! 2119 Fri, Dec 10, 9:22PM EST anonymous button 2120 Fri, Dec 10, 10:09PM EST ojeb did anyone see Larry Graham and & on Larry King,pretty cool stuff. 2121 Fri, Dec 10, 10:32PM EST notanonymous Back in high school a friend of mine, a natural at bass playing, found an old Gibson "SG style" bass at a pawn shop. It had, among other foods, peanut butter caked on it. He was the type of guy that he didn't even clean the p. butter off. He just enjoyed the good sound and value. Don't know why I remember that so well but a few weeks ago I went to actually buy a bass (not exotic a name enough to mention although I will mention the price... $+#*^.%@) at a supposedly reputable shop. I'm almost certain it had peanut butter on it. So I couldn't get myself to buy it because of my anal tendencies (tendency to be anal). Another friend of mine had a beautiful Lado. But, after he got married he sold it for a song and now really regrets it. I sold a beautiful set of Gretch drums for a song after I got married. I just talked to another friend of mine two weeks ago and he sold his P bass to a pawn shop. I'm starting to get depressed by all this talk. Please stop m 2122 Fri, Dec 10, 10:33PM EST anon2 I have brand new prototype bass that is going to be displayed @ NAMM 2000 Bass Day. It has a super charged Humbucker with dual magnets active/passive replaceble PU'S to J style! Bolt on replaceable necks too! This bass can sound like anything you can imagine. There are no limits. It's midiable with a sep. module, with 366 presets and programmable. It comes in any finish or color you can dream up. Flea delivers it to your door and gives you a 5 minute bass lesson. No tipping. 2123 Fri, Dec 10, 10:35PM EST anon We need some names here.. too many anons! 2124 Fri, Dec 10, 10:36PM EST Anybody plat a Fodera, Mine blows me away! 2125 Fri, Dec 10, 10:36PM EST anonymous Pretty funny anon2 2126 Fri, Dec 10, 10:37PM EST anonymous Doesnt Vic play one of those? 2127 Fri, Dec 10, 10:37PM EST How bout PLAY a Fodera? 2128 Fri, Dec 10, 10:37PM EST I just read he acquired a five with the Ying Yang woods 2129 Fri, Dec 10, 10:38PM EST anonymous We are bassists, typos dont bother us 2130 Fri, Dec 10, 10:38PM EST anonymous He smokes on that bass 2131 Fri, Dec 10, 10:39PM EST If you ever get to Brooklyn, NY stop in the guys are great as well as ht eplayers that stop in. I was way to Intimidated to play, Pisck up my 5 and went home. 2132 Fri, Dec 10, 10:41PM EST anonymous Nah JLV, just jump in and play, everyone has something to offer 2133 Fri, Dec 10, 10:45PM EST These guys were smokin, studio cats, I wasn't going to try shit with a new bass. You know where I can find Funk music on the web, i just got back on after two years, can't you tell by my typos 2134 Fri, Dec 10, 10:51PM EST 2135 Fri, Dec 10, 10:52PM EST anonymous button 2136 Fri, Dec 10, 10:53PM EST anonymous Could you tell me where all I can find is rock, alt & blues all in tab form 2137 Fri, Dec 10, 10:53PM EST anonymous Syntax is a bit screwy Doc 2138 Fri, Dec 10, 10:56PM EST Thanks 2139 Fri, Dec 10, 10:57PM EST anonymous button 2140 Fri, Dec 10, 10:59PM EST anonymous>>this should keep you busy a while. button 2141 Fri, Dec 10, 11:04PM EST anonymous Will the real anonymous please stand up? 2142 Fri, Dec 10, 11:04PM EST 2143 Fri, Dec 10, 11:06PM EST incognito hows this? 2144 Fri, Dec 10, 11:07PM EST incognito Why aren't you guys gigging? 2145 Sat, Dec 11, 3:12AM EST anonymous hi all 2146 Sat, Dec 11, 3:12AM EST anonymous anyone around at this hour 2147 Sat, Dec 11, 3:56AM EST lowlifer I was gigging, why weren't you incognito? 2148 Sat, Dec 11, 7:40AM EST the doog Hi! Anyone know of any sites I can get some disco bass tabs from 2149 Sat, Dec 11, 11:24AM EST Skiball F@*K!!!!!!!!!! I just got a call this morning that my New years gig got caceled! $600 out of my christmas budget. I think Ive had it with these yuppie-ass kooks! Here its Dec. 10th. Little late to find a y2k gig. Anybody in central Fl. need a low-ender?!!! Year-end close-out rates! Wanna buy a tux? Crimmins/Ojeb>> I'll give you a 50% finders fee!! Will play for food!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!.....(Think I have agression isues.) 2150 Sat, Dec 11, 1:47PM EST big g I'm a bit worried about my gig too. Most folks I talk to are planin on staying home. :^( 2151 Sat, Dec 11, 1:49PM EST old-timer Doog...disco bass tabs...that's a joke right ? Azbug....sounds like serious fat string toys you got there , very cool !Levite ,got a Ken Smith Burner 5..kewl tone , I garontee ! And anon2..you sound familiar..been here before ? These anon's must be the Fender salesmen traveling incognito here. 2152 Sat, Dec 11, 1:54PM EST old-timer JLV...you from Brooklyn? Staying home New Years...I'm going to Times Square , if it's really going to end ,I'll be standing in the middle of it all with my wife and a bottle of Dom P. You only live once!And you guys are thinking about gigs? The Horror.... 2153 Sat, Dec 11, 2:09PM EST anon2 NYC!!! Are you nuts! That will be a mad house! Yea I have been here before. Trying to sell the same bass too! 2154 Sat, Dec 11, 3:20PM EST Rbacker We're staying two blocks from home (friends house) taking the minions and partying with two other families. 2155 Sat, Dec 11, 3:36PM EST Rbacker Basses, why are some of them so expensive? Same wood, same glue, I understand the money is in the setup, best bass in the world won't be right without the proper setup. My Rick has an Alembic humbucker at the bridge and a Wilkerson bridge 0n the thing. I don't understand a $3,000 dollar bass that may or may not be CNC milled (at least at the start) and than hand sanded from there. Is this the BMW, CAT deal where you pay a lot for a name? 2156 Sat, Dec 11, 3:38PM EST Rbacker Just askin' and not trying to piss off anyone with one of the botique basses. 2157 Sat, Dec 11, 5:30PM EST King BassBalls My New Years gig is going to be at a drag strip. Supposed to be a big crowd. I hope it won't be too cold! It's about 70 degrees right now. I could stand that. 2158 Sat, Dec 11, 5:35PM EST old-timer Rbacker...you make some good points and in all fairness how many times has it been said "you get what you pay for"? First, do you agree with that? Second,are you willing to pay for the reputation as well as the product? Every "name" has a trademark feel or image that your paying for. And God Bless America if we dont have the right to buy whatever we want to !!! Hey..let's piss someone off...we're bass players!! 2159 Sat, Dec 11, 5:38PM EST old-timer KBB...you'll have to dig out those old Jan and Dean ,Beach Boys and Dick Dale records for that gig.Tach it up,Tach it up.... 2160 Sat, Dec 11, 5:54PM EST Rbacker I agree with "get what you pay for" which is why I buy Snap-on tools. I've been talking a lot with my luthier buddy and get the sense that a lot of these basses (or g#$%^r's) are sold to the stores for half the price the stores sell them to us for. markup is huge. My bro just bought a new Rick on the net for $750. 4003 model. why is it you don't see them for under $1200 (at least I don't). Guess if we're willing to pay the price.... I'm getting closer to the fretless five though. Hope to have it in hand for Big G's jam in June. Shooting for Flame maple top. Not sure about the rest of the woods though. Little research going to go on. 2161 Sat, Dec 11, 5:55PM EST Rbacker Going to help build the thing, I'll get back to you when I see how much labor and materials add up to. 2162 Sat, Dec 11, 5:56PM EST Rbacker guess you also pay for the rep of the company you buy from. Lots to consider here. Johnnie A. any thoughts (like I'm completely off bass er base here?) 2163 Sat, Dec 11, 7:30PM EST Mr. Bass Here is my take on this..The raw materials for any bass using the most exotic woods the most expensive hardware, strings etc. couldnt be more than $1000. Now, what you are paying for is the knowledge and expertise of the luthier, this is another debatable issue as to who is a great craftsman and who isn't, but that aside, lets face it you are paying in part for the name and reputation of the company /craftsman and that worth can only be determined by someones perspective and wallet. I am sure there is someone out there that would swear thier 500. Yamaha is as good as any "boutique bass". Once again beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 2164 Sat, Dec 11, 8:03PM EST big g rb>I paid the guy who carved my bass about $1 hr. Most of these guys do it for the love of the craft. Money is not the object. You hit right on when said you use snapon tools. Same deal. These guys make that much better axes consistently, and backup their work 110%. You need to get out an play a few to find out the difference. Will a $2500 Lakland be 10 times better than the Ibanez musician you bought for $250?? I doubt it. Prices are determined by demand vs supply. 2165 Sat, Dec 11, 9:33PM EST Rbacker MB-G, Point taken, I buy expensive tools because they don't break and they are cheaper than taking the wife to Sears. I do understand that all basses have their own tone and features that may comand more money, Next time I'll just send a few e-mails. I do enjoy getting yawls opinions though. Now about amps............ 2166 Sat, Dec 11, 9:55PM EST Mr. Bass Rb> You have the right idea for this forum, just say what's on your mind and let the participants take it where they may, keep thumpin brother! 2167 Sat, Dec 11, 9:55PM EST Mr. Bass Always enjoy your input. 2168 Sat, Dec 11, 10:04PM EST Rbacker thanks brother, just wonderin'. Hope your weekend is going well, little group I'm in is finally learing some cover tunes. Lots easier to pick stuff out the more I play. 2169 Sat, Dec 11, 10:05PM EST Rbacker Now to find something on this here internet for the eldest minion.... maybe have hime make me a Lego bass????????? 2170 Sat, Dec 11, 10:30PM EST knowone Lead vocal & Bassist.Wow! talk about some serious practice.theres no easy way except,either go to ryhtem guitar or drums (no offence) but,vocal&bass seems a lot more complex.Ive always been amazed with Geddy Lee.he makes it seem so easy.Long ways from easy! But,since Ive been on bass,I dont even want to play guitar,at all anymore. 2171 Sat, Dec 11, 11:06PM EST Rbacker Knowone-I tried singing while playing an easy line and animal control stopped by looking for the wounded moose. Able to play and sing (sorta) but no more singing unless in church choir. I don't know how Lee does it, his lines fly. 2172 Sat, Dec 11, 11:20PM EST Rbacker How many of you (besides lowlifer) play through a preamp/poweramp setup and why. Just curious. 2173 Sat, Dec 11, 11:21PM EST Rbacker I know, curiosity killed the cat. 2174 Sat, Dec 11, 11:21PM EST Azbug Big G; I would bet that anybody that says their $500 Yamaha is as nice as any boutique bass hasn't sat down with a Ken Smith, or MTD and really played it. I will be the first and fastest to raise my hand in agreement when anybody says that these boutique Basses are overpriced. $6000 for a 4-string Fodera??? Gimme a break! $2500 for a Lakland deluxe version of a Musicman? I feel the Lakland is a nicer Bass, but not $1500 nicer. I think the one that really got me was the so-called Tobias's made by Gibson and the incredible prices they were asking for them. I was talking to a good friend this morning, he lives in Manhattan and left his Sterling in a cab on his way to a gig. That really sucks! Anyway, he has been shopping for a new Bass. He stopped into Sadowsky's shop and he says the basic, four-string, no frills Jazz copies start at $1500...I'll take the American Jazz Deluxe for $700, Alex! All this is strictly IMHO and, most definitely YMMV. 2175 Sat, Dec 11, 11:48PM EST knowone Thats what I play,a jazz,my first bass (first love).but Ive always wanted a RIC. Alembic,slim chance on ever getting one. Any tips about RICs.4001 & 4003-stereo? (good or bad) 2176 Sun, Dec 12, 0:16AM EST 2177 Sun, Dec 12, 0:40AM EST LongWinded-Funk Knutz Well for all those who would like the opinion of someone who did believe there were a few basses worth 2-3k that would be me. But those basses are damned few. (Got past the bleeper.) Back when Alembic and Oasis built real quality into there axes (mid 70's - mid 80's) it took that kind of jack to actually build something, and they knew it. You couldn't find them at just any music store either. You had to hunt those puppies down. Nowadays technology is making basses of that quality readily available, and in all fairness what was 2500 - 3000 sheckels should be deflated to about 1500 on that basis alone. I sure as heck don't see any 9 pin connectors on today's so called wonder axes. Some day I'll post a picture of the boutique buster I take on gigs, and it would blow your minds if you could hear it. But for laughs let me give you a quick description. It is a longhorn body, but it is hollow with f-holes. The original Mosrite Copy pickups died many moons ago, but the sound was ressurrected with two Schaller Special Design Studio Humbuckers w/ 8 magnets apiece. The neck has an imitation Hofner headstock, and theres an old 3-way switch for pickup selection. Since the pickups test out @ 15 apiece on the meter you can imagine how hot they get when fed through a hollow body. (Yes Virginia controlled feedback really can be a musical art form.") But I digress.........Suffice it to say that It's my fave to take to all the jam sessions in town where I know the cats walk in with there MTD's Ken Smith's, Sadowsky's etc.......How come they all want to play mine? How come half of 'em try to buy mine after the gig? No bass envy, I've got an old Alembic, a New Conklin, and all kinda other neat stuff (Mosrite 8-string) Never seen another one of those.I say low enders deserve a better deal. Best new bass for the bucks-- Seen a lot of G&L ASAT 5's going for under 700. I'm still a Conklin fan too. Groove tools are not for fools. Even Bill Dickens digs 'em, and he could get big bucks to endorse anything he wanted. You can find killer 5,6, and 7's from this very under-rated company for way under a grand. 2178 Sun, Dec 12, 1:03AM EST Skiball (Still pissed by the way) But anyway, some great points about material, knowlege craftsmanship and even technology in high end basses.But any takes on why Fender, whom I love and play charge over $1000 for a re-issue of a bass they should have never RUINED in the first place. No exotic woods here! And they're manufactured in a production shop. Its not like Mike Tobias or Mike Pedulla sweating over a bench! As if thats not bad enough, Lakland wants $2,000 for a bass built to vintage Fender specs! We all gotta make a buck but come on man!!! But none of that matters . Im going to forget about upgrading the bass arsenal and buy a f*&&%&@G Karaoke machine so I can make a few bucks in the local scene. " Hey alright! Give it up for Jethro on that there Achey Breaky Heart number" Anyone know where I can get an electric APPLAUSE sign with footswitch? 2179 Sun, Dec 12, 1:19AM EST Chaka Anybody out there play any of the new Fender signature basses? 2180 Sun, Dec 12, 2:00AM EST lowlifer Chaka I have a Roscoe Beck signature Jazz 5 string that I love. Ask BigG how it plays as he's played mine too. 2181 Sun, Dec 12, 2:47AM EST anonymous I once had a Kramer bass with an aircraft aluminum neck. Was that "boutique" in it's day? I don't remember it having a sound that was worth writing home about. I wonder what the person who walked into my house in the middle of the afternoon and stole it thinks? By the way, why no mention of the Dingwall Voodoo bass? ...38 inch scale for the B. No, I am not a salesman. And I don't own one as I choose to afford less... 2182 Sun, Dec 12, 2:48AM EST anonymous (that's notanonymous) 2183 Sun, Dec 12, 2:56AM EST Funk Knutz Personally I will continue to manufacture my $300.00 mutants. I've got an old Kay TrueTone. This was actually one of the very first Les Paul shaped basses. What's hip is that it has a hollow body cavity with some major resonance chambers. You can here this puppy scream unplugged. Better still, I'm going to keep the all too funky chrome pickups W/speed bump in the midle, and send them off to Lindy Fralin for a rewind. That's right folks, a hollow body Les Paul with just enough solid top to kill the feedback problems. Built in 1961, it's a wonder Gibson hasn't bought the old Kay name so that they could re-issue these babies.After all they specialize in buying and or ressurrecting good old names just so they can screw them up after dumping huge amounts of cash into them. 2184 Sun, Dec 12, 4:32AM EST Question By reading some of these posts it looks like you all have been playing since the wheel. So, can you tell me if you still maintain a practice schedule and if so, what does that entail? And do you believe that you can get better by just giging? 2185 Sun, Dec 12, 7:30AM EST gut-feeling good morning from p.a.. anybody awake yet? 2186 Sun, Dec 12, 9:38AM EST High School 12 I am a high school student and I just wanted to ask if it's possible to make a decent living playing the bass. I can read fairly well and I am still taking lessons from a good teacher and player but he is kind of down on playing for a living things didn't go so well for him he said. My parents are against it too, they say do it for fun, what do you think? 2187 Sun, Dec 12, 10:07AM EST anonymous hello? 2188 Sun, Dec 12, 10:08AM EST AmericanEagle anyways... 2189 Sun, Dec 12, 10:08AM EST AmericanEagle Does anyone want to chat with me? PM me, please.. 2190 Sun, Dec 12, 10:09AM EST AmericanEagle fdas 2191 Sun, Dec 12, 10:54AM EST blank I would advise,stay in school & get a trade first.at the same time,pursue your music.for me,it costs a lot of money just to play music for a hobby.just be serious & honest with yourself.If you want it bad enough,youll get there. Be able to support your music career first.If you already have plenty of money.Go for it! 2192 Sun, Dec 12, 11:11AM EST big g HS12>GO FOR IT!! Question>>I dont consider a gig practice. Its performance. I practice to perfect my performance. I would recommend a regular practice time at least 3 times a week. 2193 Sun, Dec 12, 11:29AM EST Rbacker Good morning gents, thanks for all the feedback. Now, any thoughts on taking the E down to a B and loosing the G string? Would the tension differential tweak the neck too much? I hardly ever play the G (except for the octave) and would not miss it. Is this something some of you have tried? TIA and hope everyones weekend is going well. 2194 Sun, Dec 12, 12:12AM EST big g Rbacker>actually the B string has less tension in tune than the g string in tune. So there would be less tension. This fact is from one of the luthiers who hangs around TBL. 2195 Sun, Dec 12, 12:13AM EST big g You will probably have to file you nut to accomodate the larger diameters. 2196 Sun, Dec 12, 12:40AM EST Thumpin >HS 12: It depends on a lot of factors, IMHO: If you live in a large metropolitan area, such as New York or LA, I think your possibilities for working full-time are excellent, because the diversity of music styles is available. But you really have to become reliant on the "day gig" until that happens; all along it's practice and gigging that will help pave the way too. Good luck to you. 2197 Sun, Dec 12, 12:43AM EST King BassBalls RB>>I gig with a Demeter preamp and a Hafler Pro5000 power amp. I couldn't be more pleased with my setup. Everything sounds great through the Demeter and I highly recommend it. I've been through several rigs throughout the years, and have played through and tried out many others. This is the real S#@t. Big g is right...there is LESS tension with the B-string. 2198 Sun, Dec 12, 12:57AM EST 2199 Sun, Dec 12, 2:40PM EST old-timer Just a comment after reading the last 40 or so messages...You guys,as bass players, are the "Balls".There is so much intelligent conversation it's a shame so few are here.I guess it prove's -quality not quantity is true when it comes to this chat.It's a true pleasure to have you guys to talk to...IMHO ! 2200 Sun, Dec 12, 2:44PM EST old-timer Hearing your opinions has an effect on some of my thoughts,another view, if you will. We should start a fan club for ourselves....oh,we have one already! 2201 Sun, Dec 12, 2:46PM EST old-timer O.K.-Top 5 Most Underrated Bass Players,any style??? 2202 Sun, Dec 12, 3:42PM EST Calouses otto price and paul mcartney for 2 2203 Sun, Dec 12, 3:44PM EST Calouses Flea of RHCP is one of the best in the world as far as I'm concerned 2204 Sun, Dec 12, 5:16PM EST Azbug Hmmmmm...good one OT. 5 most underrated? Christian McBride. I don't he gets enough credit 1. He's a Jazzer and we all know how discriminating that group is. 2. He's young. My favorite McCoy Tyner CD is the one Christian plays on. He has the feel of an, well, old-timer! :). Randy Jackson. The hardcore know and have heard him. He's still around, but not in the limelight. He's a killer player. Check him out on Jean Luc Ponty's "Mystical Adventures". That's about all I can think of at the moment... 2205 Sun, Dec 12, 7:25PM EST big g Alain Caron 2206 Sun, Dec 12, 7:29PM EST big g Anybody wanna check out my Namm pics from January 99 Drop me an email: rumblethump@yahoo.com Got a pic of JTs doubleneck 7 stringer. RBs the only guy I know big enough to play it,off its stand. 2207 Sun, Dec 12, 8:30PM EST old-timer Calouses..here's where opinions rear their ugly head...I was saving Flea as my #1 choice of Most Overrated! Just MY opinion. Azbug..very serious and well thought out choices. 2208 Sun, Dec 12, 9:06PM EST King BassBalls Gotta go with Danny Bonaduce, Peter Tork, Sheryl Crow, Sid Vicous and Larry Fine. Each a great and underrated virtuoso! Danny makes me moist. 2209 Mon, Dec 13, 0:59AM EST notanonymous I'd swear that Danny Bonaduce and Peter Tork were "slap syncing". Funny Ovation basses never took off. Sheryl Crow... anyone who can sing and play bass and look that good all at the same time amazes me. 2210 Mon, Dec 13, 1:00AM EST notanonymous And I'm not an Ovation saleperson. 2211 Mon, Dec 13, 1:08AM EST notanonymous That should be, "Funny,(comma) Ovation basses never took off. Although either way you read it, it works. (My apologies to all you Ovation bass players... and the salespeople). 2212 Mon, Dec 13, 2:32AM EST Thumpin >My votes for underrated bassists: John Paul Jones, Leon Wilkeson (his stuff with Skynyrd is sometimes hard to hear with those three lead g@#%^*rs), Sting (brilliant, sparse bass lines), Ben Orr of The Cars, and Kenny Gradney of Little Feat. 2213 Mon, Dec 13, 3:00AM EST stig Azbug - I second that! Anyone of you heard his "A family affair"? I can't recall having seen that album on any of those "best bass-album of the millenium"-lists! 2214 Mon, Dec 13, 7:26AM EST stig ...and Rick Danko!!! ...bless him. 2215 Mon, Dec 13, 2:06PM EST fear Lotta slaps on the back "ROUND HERE" (FAN CLUB/SUPPORT GROUP)? Under rated bassest... ALL OF US .."LABLED" or not! Underestamated TOO! Peter "Mars Cowling Whipped that "P" into submissiom! Let "in house" church bassest play my LB-70 last nite at the big christmas play. He loved it , I enjoyed listining to it cut through ..YEA! GOT a bit worred when the play started, a lot of movement on a darkened stage, bass in stand..SWEAT..SWEAT.. BUT all was ok. Hope ya'll is ok to ..LATER E-ONE 2216 Mon, Dec 13, 5:41PM EST Mr. Bass Underated..hmmm...T.M.Stevens has a cool slap thing going on that no one ever mentions, Ralph Armstrong(who also played with Ponty)had some neat lines happening, Robert "POPS" Popwell from The Crusaders, Alain Caron is becoming better known, that's it for now, I dug Mars C. too! 2217 Mon, Dec 13, 5:46PM EST PA Bass How bout Johnny B. Gaden, all that great blues, Albert Collins, early Staple Singers 2218 Mon, Dec 13, 6:08PM EST levite most underated....without a doubt...RICK JAMES....he ALONE made the bass a frontliner....oh yea....SUPER FREAK 2219 Mon, Dec 13, 6:23PM EST get real 2220 Mon, Dec 13, 6:27PM EST levite get real...??? how so...you dont agree?? 2221 Mon, Dec 13, 6:31PM EST Azbug Hmmmm...Not so sure about the Rick James thing. I think he made "Rick James" a frontliner and was never really underrated in that role. Not sure anybody other than Bassists knew he played Bass. Jardine White, Bootsy Collins, etc. those guys did alot for putting the Bass upfront in that genre. IMHO. 2222 Mon, Dec 13, 6:51PM EST Bass in the 70s Rick James-Earth,wind,&fire-Brothers Johnson-Average white band-the Comadores-Isley brothers-Funkadelic,Parliment-Wild Cherry- just a few of the 70s-underated influences 2223 Mon, Dec 13, 8:44PM EST Rbacker Roger Waters? I don't know how he rates with you guys but he plays some really nice stuff. I also like Mic Fleetwood. John paul Jones. 2224 Mon, Dec 13, 9:05PM EST Mr. Bass Az> Who is Jardine White? I have heard of Verdine White from E,W and Fire, is that who you meant? 2225 Mon, Dec 13, 9:27PM EST Tripp Hows about Keith Ferguson? 2226 Mon, Dec 13, 10:00PM EST Fclef Willie Weeks?,George Porter Jr?,Carol Kaye?,Jeryy Jemmot?. 2227 Mon, Dec 13, 10:48PM EST lo B hi there 2228 Mon, Dec 13, 11:01PM EST Rbacker Charles Meeks (bass on Chuck Mangione's "live at the Hollywood Bowl") Great stuff. 2229 Mon, Dec 13, 11:10PM EST Funk Knutz Soapbox Under-Rateed- 1}Lee Sklar- his work on James Taylor's Handyman Album was so melodic and influential for it's time it is unbelieveable. 2} There was a guy who used to play with a group called Gene Harris and The Three Sounds. His work was very influential for it's time as well. (Late 50's Jazz.} If you can find this stuff listen to it. They only made three albums together. You will here where Ron Carter and even Ray Brown were very heavily influenced, and you'll also here that funky slurred triplet figure that is so often credited to Ron Carter. 3}The guy on the Jeff Beck Wired album was hot too. He's so under-rated I can't even remember his name. 4} Any of Stevie Wonder's bassists. Who can name them, but to this day their lines still dance through my head, and on network t.v. talkshows as well.The word "Timeless" comes to mind. 5}David Walter. Helped ressurect the upright bass revolution in classical music, and influenced at least two entire generations of Orchestral Upright Bass Players. Bet you never even heard of him, and that is truly a shame. 2230 Mon, Dec 13, 11:20PM EST Mr.Bass Funk K> That was Wilbur Bascomb on Wired..he ws def underated, good one! 2231 Mon, Dec 13, 11:41PM EST Funk Knutz Thanks Mr. B.- P.S.-I think your the most under-rated web page designer. 2232 Tue, Dec 14, 0:01AM EST Azbug Mr.B: You caught me! It is Verdine...sheesh. 2233 Tue, Dec 14, 0:24AM EST Thumpin >I don't know how many of you low-enders are Earth, Wind & Fire fans out there, but if you like a clean, tasty, funky Jazz bass sound - this is the CD to have! Verdine White is right on it. He has a great solo in "New World Symphony" too. A GREAT GREAT fingerstyle player! 2234 Tue, Dec 14, 0:25AM EST Thumpin >Would help if I mentioned the name of the CD: "Gratitude" 2235 Tue, Dec 14, 0:34AM EST Skiball Only one mention of our recently departed Rick Danko? I can honestly say he influenced my playing quite a bit. Gonna miss ya brother.... 2236 Tue, Dec 14, 3:41AM EST stig ...and of course, the bassist - i don't even remember his name, and it's not Will Lee - playing on the first Dreams-album released in... i think 1969 or -70. 2237 Tue, Dec 14, 3:52AM EST Doug Kahn? 2238 Tue, Dec 14, 7:10AM EST kihoon hi all bassplayer 2239 Tue, Dec 14, 7:11AM EST kihoon slump rightnow 2240 Tue, Dec 14, 9:17AM EST King BassBalls Dave LaRue, Tim Bogert, JP Jones, Berry Oakley, Randy Jo Hobbs. My real list. 2241 Tue, Dec 14, 2:22PM EST old-timer Talk about opinions....and all good ones. A lot of influences in our backgrounds,would'nt you say? Is it me or are those Gu&%$r players stuck in some kind of speed,death metal,who's the latest "in" gu*%#r God ,to have an independent thought and not follow the "flock"?They miss so much...oh well. 2242 Tue, Dec 14, 2:35PM EST old-timer But I digress...How about Greg Lake,Glen Cornick and Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond(both from Jethro Tull),Bob Bogle(Ventures),almost hate to say this one but, remember their first 2 or 3 albums..Peter Cetera from Chicago?Last but not least,better known for his songwriting,(like McCartny) Brian Wilson. Ahh , the good old days.... 2243 Tue, Dec 14, 3:25PM EST bunch-0-basses how about my dad....."play the bass kid or dont play nuttin at all...you aint gonna be no keyboard butcher.....lay low son"....now that was influence.... 2244 Tue, Dec 14, 5:37PM EST fear Over at neighbors house his system is working ? Levite? 2245 Tue, Dec 14, 5:41PM EST 2246 Tue, Dec 14, 7:59PM EST anonymous 2247 Tue, Dec 14, 8:05PM EST Brazilbass I think it's impossible to make a list of influences,because there are thousands of great players around. However, there are some guys whose style I could emulate and make it fit better in my own. I play rock bass and I love Jaco, but to say he has influenced my playing isn't true. Those who really influenced me were John Entwistle, Geezer Butler, John Deacon, Paul McCartney and Tim Bogert. This last week I got "Standing in the shadows of motown" and I'm trying to play some Jamerson, awesome stuff. But I don't think that will ever fit in my band. 2248 Tue, Dec 14, 8:21PM EST anonymous One more thought: I think it's unfair to the guitar to be treated like it is here. It's a wonderful instrument and very necessary to almost every style of music that requires an electric bass. GUITAR PLAYERS are assholes, alright ( almost all of them ) but that's not the instrument's fault, is it? 2249 Tue, Dec 14, 8:22PM EST Brazilbass One more thought: I think it's unfair to the guitar to be treated like it is here. It's a wonderful instrument and very necessary to almost every style of music that requires an electric bass. GUITAR PLAYERS are assholes, alright ( almost all of them ) but that's not the instrument's fault, is it? 2250 Tue, Dec 14, 9:21PM EST Azbug Hi Brazil! Nice to see you back. Hope all is well in your corner of the world...I appreciate and agree with your philosophy of "appreciating" any number of Bassists, but only "Influenced" by a few. That's a nice few you have listed there, as well. As far as talking pointedly about guitars...it's the guitar"ist" that is getting the flack. Not the instrument, itself. Not so long ago there were quite a few of us that admitted to owning and playing guitars of some sort, or other. We are all musicians here and I feel the appreciation for music and the instruments of the craft/art are nothing less than highly respected. 2251 Tue, Dec 14, 9:49PM EST Brazilbass I play guitar too, but I never fell in love with it, and I think it's not as versatile as a bass ( guitarists will laugh at this ). If you hear every sound that ever came out of a bass, you'll have to agree with me there's more variety than the sounds that ever came out of a guitar. I don't know if I expressed myself clearly, but what I mean is: We sound a lot different from each other than guitar players do. 2252 Tue, Dec 14, 9:55PM EST crimins Coming in late on this thread, but here's my list of underrated bassists - Alain Caron, Chas Chandler, Jimmy Earl, Jimmy Haslip. Rbacker> I use a Yamaha PB-1 preamp and Yamaha P3200 stereo power amp. The preamp has a great sound, even though all solid state. Pacman uses on e, too, and it was his recommendation taht was an influence for me to find one, even though they are no longer made. 2253 Tue, Dec 14, 10:38PM EST anonymous New to the site, looking for advice on getting the best sound out of my amp. I play in a local blues band. I have a Nemesis 2x10 combo 200 watts rms. I want to keep the growl I get out of it but would like to be warm and sweet without distorting at higher volumes. Any advice? 2254 Tue, Dec 14, 10:49PM EST upright hey anybody got a "Realist" pickup for sale? 2255 Tue, Dec 14, 11:42PM EST Skiball Just had to share a moment- Driving home after work dodging touist (reffered to as terrorist in Orlando) and the Oscar Petterson Trio came on N.P.R. Not sure of the tune but Ray Browns bounced out one of the hippist flowing lines I ever heard. By the time I pulled up to the crib I do'in the head bob thing with a dorky grin on my face....Thanks Ray! 2256 Tue, Dec 14, 11:50PM EST Azbug Ski: That's cool! I was listening to NPR last night and heard a tune from Modern Jazz and I was doing the same thing to Percy Heath's fingers as they were walkin' the dog. Cool stuff! 2257 Tue, Dec 14, 11:58PM EST Azbug anonymous: Dial out some of the mids. upright: I've got a realist but it sure ain't for sale. Them things are the greatest thing sinced sliced bread as far as URB amplification goes. 2258 Wed, Dec 15, 0:26AM EST notanonymous Some interesting "chatting" while I was away. Ok, I will admit this but I'm not leaving... I'm a guitarist. (by the way, don't say asshole in front of the k.i.d.s.)(which is the punchline to a joke I once heard). One thing I have noticed, being a guitarist and listening to guitarists, is that most of them are not melodious. Many of them just play riffs they have made up or heard from someone else that don't even fit the song, ie is not a variation of the theme of the song. So they just take off in whatever direction they want sometimes sounding like they are using an electic toothbrush as a pick. Sounds like they are trying to wow the crowd by their speed and bends and wierd sounds but I can't really say much of it makes any sense. So it is almost like the bass player makes a nice bed and the guitarist jumps all over it. The bass player is the parent and the guitarist is the brat. Is that what you mean? Geez, after all that, I hope it is! 2259 Wed, Dec 15, 0:28AM EST Rbacker Gentlemen, I am now the proud owner of a Fender fretless four. It's a birthday present from my wife and our parents. It's Mexican made but sure sounds nice. Has the fretlines on it (sorry, next one will be without lines but I gotta have my reference right now). Played with my buddies and after some "experimentation" got the intonation going. Consider myself lucky. 2260 Wed, Dec 15, 0:30AM EST notanonymous Hey! Suddenly I can say g#%&$%*@t! 2261 Wed, Dec 15, 0:31AM EST Rbacker Guitarist I play with enjoys playing melodic stuff. Likes that Dave Gilmore kinda sound. I have a great time just laying the bottom down and listening to what they do, though I do wish we'd get out of the E,C,D rut and branch out. 2262 Wed, Dec 15, 0:32AM EST notanonymous Doh! 2263 Wed, Dec 15, 0:34AM EST notanonymous Neat birthday present. Should be fun to play on. 2264 Wed, Dec 15, 1:59AM EST Funk (gearhead)Knutz >Anonymous w/the 2x10 Nemesis (Excellent little amp by the way)- If you'll use your extension speaker output from the two tens, and ad a good 1x15 cabinet you can really crank the bottom, and keep the growl. You'll be amazed by the fact that the 1x15 can literally carry the enire low end of your tonal spectrum. Use the EQ to have the 2x10's due what they were built for, carrying the midrange of the spectrum. If you have good clean pots and a quality onboard preamp, cranking the treble from the axe in conjunction w/the tweeter in the 2x10 cab will take good care of the highs. What kind of axe will you be tweaking the pots on, and have they been cleaned recently? Does it have a decent preamp built in? 2265 Wed, Dec 15, 9:55AM EST anonymous How about Fagan (Steely Dan). He's melodious. But I realize this is a BASS chatroom... 2266 Wed, Dec 15, 10:22AM EST big g Ok gang, we gotta play wit em. What is your favorite g(*tar? Strat? Les Paul? Others? Im a dyed in the wool strat man, although I liked what Roy Buchanan did with a tele. 2267 Wed, Dec 15, 10:30AM EST King BassBalls RB>>Congrats on the fretless Fender. Is it P or Jazz or something else? Its been my experience that you can't go wrong with a Fender. Have fun with it bro, and try not to turn into one of those annoying Fender salesman. 2268 Wed, Dec 15, 10:38AM EST King BassBalls I prefer the Les Paul. I've always been a big Page fan. I read somewhere that he sold a lot of Les Pauls playing his Tele. I love the sound of a Strat also (have always been a Hendrix fan too). 2269 Wed, Dec 15, 10:45AM EST King BassBalls Wonder why it is that g#^#@rists usually have a Strat or a Les Paul through a Marshall, while bassists seem to have much more choices? Or is it we are more open to, or informed about whats out there. 2270 Wed, Dec 15, 11:06AM EST big g I was knocked out by jimi, but jeffs da man. Have you heard his latest? Brush with the blues? I gonna put on right now. Jeffs had his share of Great Bassists also. I still remember Tim Bogert staring Jeff in the face playing note for note trading 8s, 16s , till Jeff gave up. Hah, thats some bass playing. 2271 Wed, Dec 15, 11:42AM EST Stevie Ray? 2272 Wed, Dec 15, 12:09AM EST King BassBalls big g>>>I have always been a Jeff Beck fan too. Who's playing bass on the new album? Blow By Blow, Wired, and BBA are my favorite Beck albums. Sounds like a blues album, is it? Has he gotten away from "don't know how to classify it" instrumental music. You're right, Tim Bogert is one kicka$$ bassist. 2273 Wed, Dec 15, 12:40AM EST Brazilbass I like the Les Paul sound. Gibson sound, actually. The SG sounds pretty good. Again, it depends a lot on what type of music you're into. The guitar player of my band got a Carvin recently and I think it sounds great! But if we talk BASS, I think nothing beats the old Fender ( to my taste ). I have a '78 Jazz, and I ordered a new Rickenbacker to substitute it. But, amazing that it sounds, it does not replace the old Fender. I also have a bass made by a brazilian luthier. I told him I want a fretless, and I asked for advice. He told me Carvins are very good, and since my guitar player got one and I liked it, I'm considering buying one. Any comments on that? 2274 Wed, Dec 15, 12:43AM EST Brazilbass Oh, I'm left-handed. ( Don't tell Gene Simmons, he'll think I'm the devil )Therefore options limited to me. Models and brands also very limited here in Brazil. 2275 Wed, Dec 15, 1:10PM EST There are several Carvin owners here. They all have only good things to say about them. 2276 Wed, Dec 15, 2:50PM EST old-timer You mean Carvin salesmen...right fear? 2277 Wed, Dec 15, 2:54PM EST old-timer Once and for all...guitarists are an evil nessecity in our little corner of the world(stage).But we are big enough to overcome their shortcomings and forge on for the good of the group, can we agree on that and move on ? 2278 Wed, Dec 15, 3:04PM EST old-timer Just got the new Bass Player mag. for Dec. and Ed Friedland seems to put into words what we have been talking about lately..."we(bass players) make it our business to pull together divergent musical viewpoints and conflicting personalities to create a sense of stability for the other musicians. We are the foundation,the groovemasters, and often the peace makers". And later he writes"but the bassist has ultimate control over the music". I think thaqt pretty much sums it up ? 2279 Wed, Dec 15, 3:06PM EST old-timer I think THAT pretty much sums it up ...it should read ! 2280 Wed, Dec 15, 3:09PM EST fear HA HA You pulled a "fear"...Thank god the drummers are on our side! 2281 Wed, Dec 15, 3:13PM EST big g KBB> Jeffs new album is kinda in the cant classify category. But Brush with the blues is worth the price of the CD. Its a live cut also. Jeff never seems to rest on his laurels. Always forging ahead with new techniques and tones. I think hes the most copied geetar player alive. Now flame away. 2282 Wed, Dec 15, 3:16PM EST fear CARVIN ?? Whats that! Brazil bass>> It s a Ouility bass LOOK around cosignment shops ,,wont find hardly any anywhere for sell. That ought to say something. I'm keeping mine ! 2283 Wed, Dec 15, 3:18PM EST fear JOE Satriani(spell check) The song "rid" he play every thing except harmonica ,his dad played that! 2284 Wed, Dec 15, 3:19PM EST fear SHOULD BE RIDE iiiiieeeeee! 2285 Wed, Dec 15, 3:21PM EST Pa bass Brazilbass, I was just checking out a very nice acacia, fretless, righty though, there is a store by me that has a nice selection, leftys too, the store is guitar villa, they also have a pretty good web site 2286 Wed, Dec 15, 5:49PM EST Nimbus Hi guys 2287 Wed, Dec 15, 5:50PM EST Nimbus Do you know where I can find a good detail review on how to build my own bass?? 2288 Wed, Dec 15, 6:30PM EST Skiball Rbacker >> Rigt on! Welcome to the neighbohood 2289 Wed, Dec 15, 7:06PM EST tob's Hello, I'm new to this site. I am looking for advise on amp settings. I have a 200 watt 2 x 10 combo. It has parametric EQ w/ a compressor, bass, mid and treb. I like the growl I get out of it but am looking for a warm blues tone that won't distort at higher volumes. Any advice? 2290 Wed, Dec 15, 7:18PM EST anonymous >>FUNK(gear head), thanks for the advice. I have been looking for a good, yet portable 1 x 15. The thing I like about the Nemesis is that it is light weight. Let's face it, hauling equipment is a drag. By the time you are done baby sitting the drummers equipment hauling a big speaker cab isn't very appealing. I play a Musicman Sterling. Active pickups. Great bass. I have been considering a Fender Jazz will passive pickups for a more mellow sound but it's not the same as playing the Sterling. 2291 Wed, Dec 15, 10:39PM EST Mr. Bass Rb> Great gift, good luck with it! ..I would have to vote Strat, like they way they scream. big g> I agree about Jeff, he's da man on gui#%*! always takes on new challenges, he is never afraid to have players of equal caliber banging heads with him. 2292 Wed, Dec 15, 11:20PM EST Rbacker KBB, it's a Jazz with passive elec. Did find a dead spot on the neck on the G string about halfway up. My buddy says he can fix that. I've heard of dead spots but this is the first experience. Gotta go play. Take care all. 2293 Thu, Dec 16, 0:36AM EST notanonymous Rbacker> Now you have me really curious as to what that might sound like. I've heard fretless in Jazz quite a bit, like on Pat Metheny albums etc. Does anyone use fretless for other kinds of music? 2294 Thu, Dec 16, 5:54AM EST Pacman notanon>>>>I've heard fretless heavy rock (Tony Franklin with Blue Murder) and thought it sounded great! I use it for R&B and funk, it works great with some country. Fretless is always nice to keep in the bag for a different sound. On the guitar thing, does anyone else love an L5 with flatwounds? Love, Peace and BASS 2295 Thu, Dec 16, 9:02AM EST fear Nimbus>> Are you talking from a stack of boards to a bass, building neck and all? How skilled are you at wood working? 2296 Thu, Dec 16, 9:33AM EST fear I'de say STRAT, also like the TELE and gibson melody maker, SG I think. 2297 Thu, Dec 16, 11:40AM EST Thumpin >Old timer: I agree with Ed Friedland about us being in ultimate control of the music, but when you have an erratic drummer and a guitarist who goes off on his own (too many notes) it's actually not within your control. Those are the primary reasons, musically, why I got out of the gig I was in. I'm a firm believer in playing the songs with the feel that THE SONG IMPARTS, but I can't tell you fellow low-enders how many times I played "Old Time Rock and Roll" and "Sweet Home Alabama" - with the band going off wildly over my groove. I'm not saying I was playing it perfectly or note for note - I'm saying the feel is important, even if you have played the damned songs a zillion times. You try to hold it down, and the other band members are so sick of the song that they lose the edge altogether...which does nothing for stage volume...let alone teamwork and camaraderie. You still have to do your job. That's just my take on things. 2298 Thu, Dec 16, 1:23PM EST old-timer Thumpin..realisticlly we know we cant totally control everything but, I do believe we have more control than any ONE else in the group,ya think? Drummers and guitar players going off in their own worlds onstage is a given,nobody is really shocked, are they? And,it's almost expected of them, strangely it does'nt sound out of place. But,if,in the middle of a groove,the bass player starts 'wailin',the whole song falls apart!Try it the next time you come out of the bridge on "Sweet Home Alabama" You will get noticed and you will make a point ! 2299 Thu, Dec 16, 1:33PM EST old-timer Let's vent some Holiday frustation(sp?)....Vote's are now being taken for "Most OVERRATED Bass Player of the Millenium(last,of course).This is a tough one so let's go with the Top 3....O.K.-Ready,Steady,Go... 2300 Thu, Dec 16, 1:37PM EST old-timer I'm going to be selfish and start this off.....3. Jeff Ament(pearl jam)2. Michael Anthony #1. Flea !!!! Ahhh....That felt Great! Next.... 2301 Thu, Dec 16, 1:44PM EST big g If your asking me to knock another bassist??? Not gonna happen. I do agree that we are in control. As fars as drummers who take off, I have no desire to work with them. The feel of the song is That important. If a drummer feels he has to play the song so fast that my lick doesn't have the song vibe, I educate em. I encourage the 6 stringers to get out there, just as long as they fall back to their rythm chops when vocals resume. We can or SHOULD control the dynamics. 2302 Thu, Dec 16, 2:48PM EST Thumpin >big g: I think that's great that you educate them, but the problem with my situation was that my drummer didn't want to be educated. I had more than a few talks with him about our groove and he would sidestep it, complaining about the lead vocalist or guitarist "going off." After a few conversations like that I knew it was time to bail, but there were other factors too. 2303 Thu, Dec 16, 2:50PM EST Thumpin I think getting into a band with a drummer who is not only good but has that edge is a matter of luck and perserverance....I haven't been that lucky some times...but I always hold up hope. 2304 Thu, Dec 16, 3:00PM EST King BassBalls RB>>I bet you'll love the narrow neck of the jazz. Intonation will probably be the hardest hill to climb, and can get discouraging. Develope your ears and trust them. The reward will be a much more expressive instrument than frets can provide. The fretless really sings. 2305 Thu, Dec 16, 3:47PM EST big g Thumpin>>keep looking. Amen to your last statement. Advertise/network/ask musician friends, until you find a good un. Jam sessions are a excellent source. I've found 3 in my lifetime. Still work with all of them once in a while. 2306 Thu, Dec 16, 5:06PM EST Thumpin >big g: Thanks for the encouragement. I have worked with two drummers in my lifetime that laid down a strong, simple, consistent beat, and didn't worry about anything but doing that. It seems so hard to find those kind. People often say "There aren't a whole lot of good bass players out there" when I think often the same is true of good DRUMMERS. I mentioned about two weeks ago on this chat how much more I appreciate drummers these days...it's because I used to think Neal Peart was God and Mick Fleetwood and Charlie Watts were boring...now my thinking is nearly the opposite. I still like Neal but when I hear that huge pocket courtesy of drummers like Bonham, Watts and Fleetwood, I have a changed mind. 2307 Thu, Dec 16, 5:09PM EST Thumpin >Let me re-phrase: I have often heard people say "It's hard to find a good bass player around here." (I live near Spokane, Wash. - not exactly a big city - but the word "good" is vague anyway - as bass players, we KNOW when we see a good bassist!) 2308 Thu, Dec 16, 5:11PM EST Thumpin But what does "good" mean to these bands looking for a bassists, anyway? 2309 Thu, Dec 16, 5:21PM EST fear O.T. Is that over rated as in(most $$ for least notes) would have to say dude in fleetwood mac 2310 Thu, Dec 16, 5:25PM EST fear Thumpin>> Good would mean consistant,maby perdictable.I would think. 2311 Thu, Dec 16, 5:41PM EST fear NEWS FLASH!!MRS FEAR bought Mr fear an AMPEG B3 practice amp compleatly outa the blue. nothing wrong with the GK I explane, It sounds good with the key board she says. And I hate to see you lug that monster around (SVT) But it's a labor of love, I explane.SHE points out "GIG AMP,... PRACTICE AMP..GOT IT !) YES MAM! It does sound good! Later E-ONE 2312 Thu, Dec 16, 6:53PM EST anonymous who makes the lowest priced basses 2313 Thu, Dec 16, 7:36PM EST notanonymous Santa's elves... 2314 Thu, Dec 16, 7:50PM EST ....... Fisher Price,has few good ones to choose from.Variety of lower ends,at toy's R us 2315 Thu, Dec 16, 8:23PM EST test just testing 2316 Thu, Dec 16, 8:24PM EST test sdg jgfkl lkdsfjg kgsdfgs;ldkj;fsdj; gf 2317 Thu, Dec 16, 8:24PM EST test Is anybody here ?? 2318 Thu, Dec 16, 9:47PM EST Rbacker fear, right on! 2319 Thu, Dec 16, 10:15PM EST Does Mrs. fear have a sister?? 2320 Thu, Dec 16, 11:10PM EST Funk Knutz My favourite guitar is the one you hear that every guitar hero has in his collection but never shows up on an album cover with. Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray, and Jimmy Page all had Gibson 335's in their collections, (and played but not advertised on many of their tracks) because they just plain don't look cool. But Lee Ritenouer, Skunk Baxter, and B.B. King were never afraid to admit where there more refined, and refined screaming tracks came from. Hayman used to make a Version called the 20/20 which you will hear on many English Studio Tracks. Truly a versatile, well toned guitar, though somewhat plain in the looks department. 2321 Thu, Dec 16, 11:50PM EST Quazar Didn't Ted Nugent play a 335? 2322 Thu, Dec 16, 11:57PM EST Azbug This was cool...I had to kill a couple of hours before picking up my girlfriend for dinner, so I thought I'd drop in and see what was up at the Guitar Center. Was back in the Bass section (duh!) there was Rick Turner. Way cool! What a niceguy. We talked for 20 minutes, or so. The guy's got some great ideas and thoughts about Basses and instruments, in general. Sure am glad I decided to drop by! 2323 Fri, Dec 17, 3:57AM EST Stig It's hard to beat a strat on versatility. My good old G#i#a#-playing compatriot have played them all - and keep on returning to his old strat. Gibsons esp. the Les Paul demands a completely different touch. 2324 Fri, Dec 17, 4:35AM EST lowlifer All of you out there in low end land I hope none of you come down with the flu I'm getting over. Been in bed since last sunday. Kicked my butt big time. 2325 Fri, Dec 17, 4:38AM EST lowlifer fear meantioned Fleetwood Mac, now there's a drummer who doesn't "overplay". I wish some of the drummers I play with would take a lesson from Mic Fleetwood!! 2326 Fri, Dec 17, 4:38AM EST Funk Knutz Actually Ted Nuisance plays a 175. That is the big fat one favoured by George Benson as well. If your into that heavier rock sound, a good reference point for the 335 would be Alvin Lee. He was a real screamer for a rock guy, and not to be confused with Alvin and the Chipmunks. 2327 Fri, Dec 17, 4:45AM EST Funk Knutz Lowlifer I agree. >Lowlifer- I agree about Mic Fleetwood. I've played with many a David Garibaldi wannabees, and am very fortunate now to have a drummer who can lay down the feel, and stretch out the pocket. He can do Garibaldi when needed, but HEY We All Play Tower of Power tunes all night long at our gigs right? (ha_ha) Out of our thre bands together we have two TOP songs. Sorry to hear about the bug. 2328 Fri, Dec 17, 4:46AM EST Funk Knutz WHERES MY SPELL CHECK????!!!!!! 2329 Fri, Dec 17, 5:00AM EST Funk Knutz Speaking of versatile- Alvin Lee-Rock -B.B. King- Blues Stevie Ray Vaugn - Blues Rock Lee Rittenouer and Skunk Baxter -Studio Musicians more well known for their work on Steely Dan Albums) though Rittenouer does a lot of jazz now as well. All played 335's. Stevie Ray who was always pictured with that ubiquitous strat actually used the 335 a lot. Check out Chili Con Carne on one of his albums. He used to hang out at Charley's guitar shop here in Big D when Charley Wirz was alive, and Charley was a notorious 335 collector. Little known fact- Charlie had an ugly old Jazzmaster guitar near the front of his store. That is the ugly one that looks like a mutant Jaguar. It screamed. Stevie used to come in and play that axe all the time, as well as the 335's. 2330 Fri, Dec 17, 8:55AM EST fear big g << Got message THINK it happened befor pearl pics, I saved it, Should I del it. 2331 Fri, Dec 17, 9:35AM EST notanonymous Probably one of the most solid beats I have ever heard was from a female drummer, Caroline Corr, from the band called The Corrs. Absolutely awesome. You feel her energy but it is clean and simple. Actually, I saw a concert on t.v. where Mic Fleetwood joined in with The Corrs for a few songs including a remake of Dreams. 2332 Fri, Dec 17, 9:40AM EST notanonymous I own both a strat and a les paul. They seem to be the two standards by which other sounds are judged. The strat definitely seems to have more character but the les paul plays out so nice. I keep going back and forth enjoying the different feel and sounds of both. 2333 Fri, Dec 17, 11:47AM EST big g fear> Just sent you an update on what to look for!!! I got it from my ISP!!! on the 16th so anything before that date is OK. 2334 Fri, Dec 17, 11:56AM EST big g EVERYONE: WARNING!!!!!!!! My computer was infected two days ago. If any of you receive an e-mail from me or anyone, with a hyperlink that has "messagemates.com" in it. DO NOT CLICK ON IT !!!!!. DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY, and then delete it from your delete file. Please look out for this in any emails your receive from me, it picks random subject lines. button This will give you some info on it. Again, I apologize for this. This worm selects random addresses from my address book and mails itself. 2335 Fri, Dec 17, 12:02AM EST fear big g >> OK. HEY ,get a load of this> OK. HEY ,get a load of this> OK. HEY ,get a load of this!! Egmg. room visit last night, kid fell, got a "goose egg" on the nogin, my wife is hypoglosemic, we miss dinner because of this ,she gets up and stumbles slightly, at hosp, doctor sees this, DOCTOR ACCUSES US OF #1 DRINKING,#2 DRUG USE,#3 ABUSIVE PAREMTS!! IN FRONT OF OUTHER PERSONS AND STAFF!She don't even know us! My kid didn't even get a bandaid , LAW SUITE INMINANT!! WHAT YALL WONT FOR X MAS,, ITS ON THE HOSP!!I AM MADDDDDD!!!! 2338 Fri, Dec 17, 12:06AM EST fear IT worked that time 2339 Fri, Dec 17, 12:10AM EST fear E R ROOM I'mm sooooo mad 2340 Fri, Dec 17, 12:10AM EST big g Hope the wife and kid are ok now. Doctors bedside manner needs some polishing. I think an apology is in order. I definately dont take public embarressment easily. 2341 Fri, Dec 17, 12:13AM EST big g Contact the Hospital administration. 2342 Fri, Dec 17, 12:17AM EST big g Heres a good deal on a light bass. Maple neckthrough, with maple wings. I put Barts on mine. Your friendly Cort salesman button 2343 Fri, Dec 17, 1:21PM EST FEAR Evreyones fine Thanks, Got a call in to lawer, want their advice first. Polishing?? How bout a trip back to med school 101! BASS BASS BASS!! GET MY MIND OFF THIS S#$%@! GOING TO TRY SOME THING DIFFERENT on the SSS prog. May try lam. body front with holographic decal mat. ( like on race car #'s ) no inprinted design , just flat, and mix clear coat and "diamond dust" with it and spray on deep?? ought to be KILLER. 2344 Fri, Dec 17, 1:30PM EST FEAR Uncle is going to do some carving on the back, he wont tell me what though, just says I will like it ??? I hate it when he does that!! Head stock will be the same as body front 2345 Fri, Dec 17, 3:25PM EST basshunter I have a buddy of mine getting ready to unload an Ernie Ball Stingray 5 string...anyone have any experience or know anything about them...what is good about them, what is not, etc.... 2346 Fri, Dec 17, 6:34PM EST big g basshunter, let your ears and hands answer your question. Lots of players love em. Too heavy and neck too big for my tastes. They sound great. 2347 Fri, Dec 17, 8:46PM EST ..................... Would you rather play bass in a three piece band. or,have a rythem guitar,four piece? playing alternative rock. 2348 Fri, Dec 17, 10:10PM EST Skiball Fear>> I get mad just reading your post. Dont let them get to ya. Get to them! 2349 Fri, Dec 17, 10:13PM EST Skiball Has anybody used Cakewalk or similar recording programs. I need a recorder bad, but dont have big money and refuse to go cassette in the digital age. Any sggestions? 2350 Fri, Dec 17, 10:15PM EST Derwood Hello ! Pleasure to find such a site. Can anyone tell me anything about the latest version SWR Big Redhead? 2351 Fri, Dec 17, 10:20PM EST crimins I agree about the 335. If you can find them, try to pock up the first two Blues Image albums (vinyl only, not on CD) and listen to MIke Pinera rip with a 335. These records are out of print and about the only thing you can find on Blues Image nowadays is a cut of Ride Captain Ride on those Greatest Hits of the 60's deals. Pretty sorry for such a great Florida band back in the late 60's. A buddy of mine did find someone selling the first B.I. album on E-bay for about 15 bucks. I've got a copy, but no way I'll part with it. 2352 Fri, Dec 17, 10:21PM EST crimins That should be "pick" up. 2353 Fri, Dec 17, 10:21PM EST lowlifer Big G hook Skiball up with Mike he knows all about Cakewalk. 2354 Fri, Dec 17, 11:18PM EST Thumpin >.......: I would say it would have to depend on the kind of music if I were to choose between a three-piece and a four- or five-piece. A trio is definitely fun but if your playing covers there's a lot to fill in. As a bassist you can do some of that out of necessity (a la Geddy Lee). But IMHO, after it goes up to four and five, the bassist should lay back more. I learned this the hard way a few years ago. I played with several three-piece groups and then got into a larger one with the style I had developed! Boy did the drummer jump my s#$t! He kept saying "don't play so many notes" - and he was right. But I had played in a certain way for a long time. It was a learning experience to learn to play LESS but one of the most important in the 20 years I have played! 2355 Sat, Dec 18, 0:03AM EST anonymous I, too, played in a three-piece band doing cover tunes. The odd time when I (the g#$%*&ist) could not fill the sound I asked the bass player (who was excellent) if he could play these certain notes. He did and it really filled the empty spots. Sometimes I would ask if he could "chord" in a part. Again he did and it was awesome. Speaking of chording on a bass I tried out a "baritone guitar" tonight (by Danelectro). Call me stupid but I didn't even know these existed. Neat sound. Maybe I have to get one now. 2356 Sat, Dec 18, 0:04AM EST anonymous That should be "notanonymous. 2357 Sat, Dec 18, 1:20AM EST Funk Knutz Actually you do. There is no chunkier sound for rhythm than baritone guitar. Listen to the old Beatles tune Back in the USSR. That is actually one of those old Fender Six String basses/Baritone guitars playing the rhytm guitar part. Dig that super hefty chunka chunka sound. It's like an old Gretsch on Steroids. 2358 Sat, Dec 18, 10:12AM EST Skiball Crimmins>> Went by Bass Central yesterday and everything was gone. Sign in window read "Lost lease temporarily". Sounds like Beavers got a house full of high enders, Ill keep you posted 2359 Sat, Dec 18, 10:18AM EST big g I prefer trios, just because its fewer personalities to deal with. Nothing like having a B3 though to fill the empty spots. 2360 Sat, Dec 18, 11:02AM EST notanonymous F. Knutz> Ok. Then that would explain that incredible sound in "Got to Get You Into My Life" (I'm not sure that's the title but you know which one I mean) I have been wondering for so long how they got that sound. Wow! Did anyone else notice how awesome that chunka chunka sound is? 2361 Sat, Dec 18, 2:24PM EST MidiMe That 'chunka chunka', aka Tic-Tac (I used to describe it as a 'chug' tone) sound on the Beatles White Album is exactly the reason I started playing bass 20 yrs ago! Loved that sound on 'Glass Onion' and 'Dear Prudence' and so many other songs on that album! I got that same sound on my first Rick by using the bridge mute (a cushoned pad that raises and lowers under the strings that's built into the Rick's bridge assembly) a heavy pick and palm muting techniques! What a joy to be able to dupe that sound! Though Geddy is my main influence, McCartney rules as 'the' major bass player in my life! 2362 Sat, Dec 18, 3:43PM EST old-timer big g...I would'nt ask you or anyone to rip a fellow bassist when I asked for opinions on Overrated Bass Players...You seemed to get defensive when you were asked for a simple opinion! No one had a problem naming Underrated Players,why the change of heart? If we cant give pro AND con opinions we(bass players) become self-rightous and lose one of our strenght's...open-mindedness. The opinions expressed in the Underrated question were very intellegent and well thought out...why would'nt they be the same for Overrated? Please reconsider... 2363 Sat, Dec 18, 3:58PM EST old-timer notanon and F Knutz...if you get a chance to try a Fender 6 by all means give it a shot. I have one I picked up in 65 and I still cant classify it! The strings are too close to play fingerstyle(though Jack Bruce did it),you dont even want to think about slapping it,you can't get either a deep bass or tinny treble tone out of it, and chord playing is a study in finger placement like no other. I don't want to sound negative as I would'nt think of getting rid of it but, it really does fit into a limited area of use. 2364 Sat, Dec 18, 4:39PM EST big g old-timer>dad told me "if you cant say something good about someone, dont say it." I think a lot of the "overatted" players listed here are pretty good at their chosen instrument. Keep up the great questions though!! 2365 Sat, Dec 18, 6:17PM EST Management old timer> Leave the tude at the door, big g is cool 2366 Sat, Dec 18, 9:50PM EST anonymousandthensome How did one band come up with so many beautiful melodies? I am talking about The Beatles of course. Some people can't write one song, it just amazes me. 2367 Sat, Dec 18, 10:47PM EST notanonymous Lennon and McCartny... geniuses, obviously. Not to mention George who was actually quite melodious (played with a direction). 2368 Sat, Dec 18, 10:57PM EST notanonymous O. Timer> Now I am confused (again). This Baritone Bass by Danelectro... it played really guitar-like. 2369 Sat, Dec 18, 10:58PM EST notanonymous And I don't sell them either, although I might apply for the job... 2370 Sat, Dec 18, 11:53PM EST Rbacker Evening all, picked up a Shure 57 mic, stand and cable for price of the mic. Father-in-law loaned me his Shure mic preamp. Now I just have to learn how to sing. 2371 Sat, Dec 18, 11:55PM EST Rbacker Tried to play last night with another bassist who decided to pick up and start playing while I was playing, to much bass, too many notes. I ended up walking out cause I couldn't stand the disharmony. Guess I was rude but he or me had to go. 2372 Sat, Dec 18, 11:57PM EST Rbacker Hope all are having a good weekend. Heard a great song today that reviews our history from the 30's to present. Great piece of work IMHO 2373 Sun, Dec 19, 0:11AM EST big g Rbacker>its super tough to play with another bass player. Tried it a few times and so far it seem like war. I was amazed at how great Vic and Steve played at the clinic. They instinctively went to lead or backup mode very smoothly. 2374 Sun, Dec 19, 0:11AM EST big g Of course they didn't have any six stringers to deal with. hehehe 2375 Sun, Dec 19, 1:34AM EST notanonymous Why would there ever be a need for two bass players in one band? 2376 Sun, Dec 19, 4:48AM EST Funk Knutz >Old Timer/Notanonymous- The Fender VI as it was labeled was marketed as a six string bass. LEO THE MAN specifically stated at the time of it's design and several times later that he had designed it to be a baritone guitar. That is why many of them come with a whammy bar. It's just a shame it's the cheapo whammy system, and not the strat whammy. The Danelectro Baritone is specifically designed and marketed to be just that. Those who know that it can be used for tic tac will do so. Others might just dig that aforementioned Old Gretsch on Steroids sound. I personally like to hear a rhythm guitarist use it. In conjunction with electric bass it's just a real hefty low end that, when locked with the drummer, literally steers the g**%r player wherever you may need him to go. P.S.-The Dano is a classic re-issue that used to fill Nashiville studios. It was designed originally for tic-tac bass in the late 50's early 60's. The Fender VI is still made once in a blue moon at the Japanese factory. How could they possibly not line up w/ design and marketing. Remember Old Timer You bought yours in '65 and they were owned by CBS. Back then all you could C was BS. 2377 Sun, Dec 19, 10:33AM EST notanonymous F.Knutz> Excuse stupidity but what is tic tac? 2378 Sun, Dec 19, 11:04AM EST big g Its a bass that makes your breath smell better. Just kiddin. Because it is in between a guitar and a bass range it was used alot to double bass lines and was dubbed a tic tac bass sound. 2379 Sun, Dec 19, 1:51PM EST Rbacker notanon, not two bass players in the band, We had finished helping the guy move whose house we jam at and wanted to sound check the new digs. I was playing and this other guy who also plays bass grabbed one laying around, plugged in and flamed on. I don't play a lot of notes cause I don't feel it's called for and I'm still seeing "what sounds good" and with the two six stringers, well enough said. 2380 Sun, Dec 19, 1:54PM EST Rbacker G-That clinic was definately a mind blower, wish they'd do it again now that I know a little more. Dudes definately stayed out of each others way. 2381 Sun, Dec 19, 2:02PM EST crash Any of you ever put epoxy on yore fretless? 2382 Sun, Dec 19, 2:03PM EST crash how did you do it? how did it turn out? is it hard work with the sanding and all? how many coats? 2383 Sun, Dec 19, 2:03PM EST crash where is everyone? 2384 Sun, Dec 19, 2:04PM EST crash i'll check back later. 2385 Sun, Dec 19, 2:12PM EST old-timer Management....big g does'nt need you to cover his back,I'm sure he's a big boy or are you president of his fan club? Big g...no offense...you answered a lot of questions that were never asked. That's what's good about open forums like this, hearing different views and opinions,let's you know where you stand in your own views. Just my opinion...not intended to piss anyone off. 2386 Sun, Dec 19, 2:23PM EST Rbacker Easy big fella, I'm in the fan club too. 2387 Sun, Dec 19, 3:53PM EST notanonymous Rbacker> Oh. Misunderstood. Interesting about you saying you don't play many notes. I was recording synthesized bass, had the idea what would sound good, recorded it and there was no punch to the sound. So I went back and started deleting notes (like where the snare drum was etc). I couldn't believe the difference it made, proving (in this case), less is more. 2388 Sun, Dec 19, 4:13PM EST big g OT>no offense taken. Rb>>thanks for the vote of confidence (my own fan club?) I'm blushing. To the BAST. 2389 Sun, Dec 19, 6:46PM EST Ot>What kind of asshole are you anyways? 2390 Sun, Dec 19, 7:56PM EST big g gang>>>Please dont carry this any further. I was not offended by OT. I think he has every right to post his feelings and I would be saddened if someone here runs him off. Please, Please, Please, lets all agree that we can disagree. 2391 Sun, Dec 19, 7:56PM EST big g Peace brothers. 2392 Sun, Dec 19, 8:01PM EST levite the bunch-0-basses bad boy of the bayou can i get in on this subject...the most overrated bassist. ...hhmmm......well..90% of all bassists think they are the best....10% think the dude that taught them was their only superior... so i guess that leaves me all alone as #3......therefore by that logic...Im the most overratted ...cuz im not near as good as i think i am...... 2393 Sun, Dec 19, 8:03PM EST levite the bunch-0-basses bad boy of the bayou evnin big G.....my somewhere in the woodpile cousin....**G*** 2394 Sun, Dec 19, 8:03PM EST levite the bunch-0-basses bad boy of the bayou or should i say somewhere in the rainforest...cousin 2395 Sun, Dec 19, 8:08PM EST crimins Skiball > Oh NO! That's bad news about B.C. Their web site says they have a new place. Is this the place that has shut down? I was planning on going down there in a week or two. Maybe I'll email them through their web site. Thanks for the info. 2396 Sun, Dec 19, 8:21PM EST levite hang in there old timer...sheeesh if it wasnt for the pioneers of the bass we would still just be the gu*&@r butchers little brother or the bus driver/bassist.... thanks to the pioneers we now lead the band ....and the kewl part...they dont even know it........iiiiiieeeeeeeeeee 2397 Sun, Dec 19, 8:24PM EST Brazilbass Hello...? 2398 Sun, Dec 19, 9:24PM EST M.B. Here, Here, big g if they dont post thier nick I pay no attention to em anyways( not like I know who they are even with a nick) but the regs know whats going on 2399 Sun, Dec 19, 9:35PM EST anonymous MB, you da man! 2400 Sun, Dec 19, 10:53PM EST anonymous where can i find some bass guitar chords and or scales that i can understand? 2401 Sun, Dec 19, 10:54PM EST anonymous anyone? 2402 Mon, Dec 20, 0:18AM EST Rbacker speaking of stirring the pot, anyone seen #9 lately? 2403 Mon, Dec 20, 0:25AM EST mrs fear/ fear HEY RBACKER WE JUST GOT ON LINE AT HOME WIFES HERE be cool!!!hehehe 2404 Mon, Dec 20, 0:26AM EST Rbacker notanon, I play off of what the drummer is doing and likewise, we have found it difficult to play now when one or the other of us is gone. have discovered a drum machine has no feel (guess that's the machine part) and its hard to create a "pulse" to the music. 2405 Mon, Dec 20, 0:27AM EST Rbacker greetings from the windy west coast!!!! 2406 Mon, Dec 20, 0:29AM EST Rbacker Fear, Mr and Mrs, still with me or hitting the bass sites :-) 2407 Mon, Dec 20, 0:29AM EST mrs fear/ fear Yea no soul in machines, can we try e mail P r farabough@aol.com 2408 Mon, Dec 20, 0:32AM EST Rbacker sure amsimes@pacbell.net writing yours down now, now, now 2409 Mon, Dec 20, 0:34AM EST mrs fear/ fear OK! MAY take a few dom't go away 2410 Mon, Dec 20, 0:35AM EST Rbacker Just fired one off to ya to see if it goes through. 2411 Mon, Dec 20, 0:38AM EST Rbacker anybody have any idea where to find tab for Vince Ghiraldi's "Linus and Lucy" theme? 2412 Mon, Dec 20, 0:40AM EST mrs fear/ fear GOT IT, COMMING BACK AT you 2413 Mon, Dec 20, 0:40AM EST MidiMe Tax Time Refund is around the corner (my time of the year for spending on yours' truly) I'm preping myself for sonic upgrading. First on the list is a Tech21 SansAmp to get a warmer 'growl' to my sound. I've heard these units are pretty good, but are they worth adding to my signal chain? 2414 Mon, Dec 20, 0:42AM EST mrs fear/ fear IS that the walking bass run where snoopy is dancing all over the place in the christmas cartoon? 2415 Mon, Dec 20, 0:44AM EST Rbacker You betcha, got the soundtrack on CD, scared the tar out of the counter guy at the CD store when I almost went over the counter looking for the disc they were playing, bought it and brought it home, play it once a week. Great stuff. Wordy, sorry 2416 Mon, Dec 20, 0:45AM EST subway_7 anybody here.....i wanna ask some questions 2417 Mon, Dec 20, 0:45AM EST Rbacker greetings subway, fire away. 2418 Mon, Dec 20, 0:45AM EST subway_7 any basist's in here 2419 Mon, Dec 20, 0:46AM EST Rbacker I may not know the answers but the other people on here are sharp 2420 Mon, Dec 20, 0:46AM EST Rbacker 2421 Mon, Dec 20, 0:46AM EST MidiMe Tax Time Refund is around the corner (my time of the year for spending on yours' truly) I'm preping myself for sonic upgrading. First on the list is a Tech21 SansAmp to get a warmer 'growl' to my sound. I've heard these units are pretty good, but are they worth adding to my signal chain? 2422 Mon, Dec 20, 0:47AM EST subway_7 i wanna learn more kinds of ways on playing th bass....can u help? 2423 Mon, Dec 20, 0:47AM EST Rbacker Midime, check in tomorrow and scroll back to this point, I can't answer that one but someone will. 2424 Mon, Dec 20, 0:48AM EST Rbacker sub, styles or techniques? 2425 Mon, Dec 20, 0:48AM EST subway_7 can u help rbacker 2426 Mon, Dec 20, 0:49AM EST subway_7 both 2427 Mon, Dec 20, 0:50AM EST Rbacker Have you tried looking around in the "Ultimate Bass Links" on your search. 2428 Mon, Dec 20, 0:50AM EST mrs fear/ fear hehehe The weather channel has been playing it. matter of fact I've been working on it too! 2429 Mon, Dec 20, 0:50AM EST subway_7 techniques.......any thing u got rbacker? 2430 Mon, Dec 20, 0:51AM EST subway_7 ultimate bass links..no why? 2431 Mon, Dec 20, 0:52AM EST Rbacker Fear, I love that song, they play a couple of others on the tape that are foot tappers too. Anything for Sub here? 2432 Mon, Dec 20, 0:52AM EST subway_7 rbacker...im not used to this chat room.....can ue-mail me? 2433 Mon, Dec 20, 0:52AM EST Rbacker Lots of teaching sites and player profiles, gear sites. I'd make you a button but being technically challenged..... 2434 Mon, Dec 20, 0:53AM EST Rbacker sub, www.basslinks.com 2435 Mon, Dec 20, 0:53AM EST MidiMe Tax Time Refund is around the corner (my time of the year for spending on yours' truly) I'm preping myself for sonic upgrading. First on the list is a Tech21 SansAmp to get a warmer 'growl' to my sound. I've heard these units are pretty good, but are they worth adding to my signal chain? 2436 Mon, Dec 20, 0:55AM EST Rbacker button sub, try this 2437 Mon, Dec 20, 0:56AM EST subway_7 rbacker...u there? 2438 Mon, Dec 20, 0:56AM EST Rbacker I'm here 2439 Mon, Dec 20, 0:56AM EST mrs fear/ fear SUB_7 TRY standing on your head ..works for me.Just kidding,try playing close to the neck or even on it slap style with your fingers not the thumb 2440 Mon, Dec 20, 0:57AM EST Rbacker Sub, what do you play now? Slap, tap and pop? Rock, country, latin, jazz...... 2441 Mon, Dec 20, 0:58AM EST Rbacker Fear, I find standing on one foot seems to balance my tone :-) 2442 Mon, Dec 20, 0:59AM EST Rbacker Polkas, ragae, cossac, 2443 Mon, Dec 20, 1:02AM EST Rbacker classical, funk, old school, pit orchastra..... 2444 Mon, Dec 20, 1:04AM EST Mrs fear/fear did mail show up ? Rbacker can you go live chat? 2445 Mon, Dec 20, 1:04AM EST Rbacker sub, I am working on trying to figure out how to play a fretless (sort of) bass and am having a great time. I would try to get familliar with the neck though so you know where the notes are. I am still working on this little project (hear me #9) 2446 Mon, Dec 20, 1:05AM EST Rbacker Fear heading there now. yes, recived your mail and your in the addy book. 2447 Mon, Dec 20, 1:05AM EST Mrs fear/fear 2448 Mon, Dec 20, 1:30AM EST Rbacker night all and have a good week. Thanks for the chat Mrs and Mr. Fear. 2449 Mon, Dec 20, 7:20AM EST thumper anyone awake this early ? 2450 Mon, Dec 20, 9:00AM EST fearr I is, yawnnnnn.. 2451 Mon, Dec 20, 9:35AM EST big g gmornin thumper fear. Just finished a tour of Amador county Catholic churches, 3 in 2 days. Played last night for a xmas pageant. Some of those xmas carols can be tricky. Merry Christmas to all from the Chapmans, Gary, Carole, and Brooke. 2452 Mon, Dec 20, 9:42AM EST fear Morning big g do you play that song Rbacker was talking about from charley brown been working on some seasions tunes too, sad to forget the riffs only play them once a year 2453 Mon, Dec 20, 9:49AM EST big g Nope, dont have that one in my repertoire. We had a youngster about 12 sitting in playing piano, I think I made more mistakes. He did a great job. 2454 Mon, Dec 20, 3:23PM EST old-timer Please allow me to respond intelligently to the question that was asked of me by someone who 'forgot' to sign their name..that question being "OT>what kind of asshole are you anyways?" Well,my nameless bass playing brother,I hope I did'nt make anyone uncomfortable by asking what I thought was a harmless question just to get a conversation going. Obviously I was wrong or mistaken(you're choice of words)in thinking along that line, for that I apologize(sp?), but only to those here who took it the wrong way thinking I was slamming other bass players. Levite's answer was exactly what I thought most would come up with for a response-a little self-critisism with a sense of humor! One of my old music teachers tought us that negative as well as positive influences add up to make us who we are musically as well as in life, according to a few of you that does'nt apply.... big g ...I feel we are cool...I don't want to rock this boat as we know it,so in the future I will keep all my questions and opinions to myself...rock-on bros! 2455 Mon, Dec 20, 3:43PM EST ojeb hope all is well in basstowne,almost done with holiday gigs(ski if I get any calls for nw years I will let you know),next gig under a Titan Rocket at Kennedy Space Center. 2456 Mon, Dec 20, 3:50PM EST four string hey I have some questions can someone answer for me that knows all about the Peavy Bass Combo MarkIII Series 2457 Mon, Dec 20, 3:52PM EST four string I also have the Boss Effect ProcessorME-6B can anyone help me 2458 Mon, Dec 20, 4:09PM EST fear O.T. You know the old saying "one bad apple" WELL don't worry bro, you ain't it! 2459 Mon, Dec 20, 4:24PM EST anonymous Four string >> First rig? and whats up with the ME-6B? 2460 Mon, Dec 20, 4:24PM EST fear Four string >> First rig? and whats up with the ME-6B? 2461 Mon, Dec 20, 4:31PM EST King BassBalls OT>>I wish you would reconsider your last statement. I value your input, and enjoy your questions and opinions. 2462 Mon, Dec 20, 5:53PM EST anonymous O.T. did you read my post about the finish planed for the SSS project? King bass balls?? what do you think?? 2463 Mon, Dec 20, 6:27PM EST Mr. Bass O.T> Please keep the questions coming, ignore the malcontent!...Is everyones Bass Y2K ready? hehehe. 2464 Mon, Dec 20, 7:17PM EST fear That was me about the SSS 2465 Mon, Dec 20, 7:19PM EST fear Br Bass >> RUUUP ROOOO 2466 Mon, Dec 20, 8:02PM EST anonymous HELLO? 2467 Mon, Dec 20, 8:53PM EST Azbug Rb: Pick up David Benoit's greatest hits. It has his version of Linus & Lucy on it (the rest of the disc isn't bad either). Nathan East played Bass on it. It really kicks! 2468 Mon, Dec 20, 9:49PM EST Thumpin >MidiMe> The Tech 21 SansAmp is an excellent addition to your equipment. IMHO, it's worth every penny I spent - it adds some fatness and growl - and it beefs up your signal in the PA too. 2469 Mon, Dec 20, 10:02PM EST Mr.Bass Besides your bass or amp, what is the one piece of gear that you wouldn't leave home without? My ADA-MB1 has a really cool chorus setting that has become a part of my sound now, after tweaking it for a bit. I had it in the shop for a gig and I def missed the fullness it creates. 2470 Mon, Dec 20, 10:36PM EST Mr. Bass I am not into advertisements, but I ran across this site in a computer mag, its called xdrive it's 25 mb of free space that can be accessed from any computer, if anyone has an MP3 they would like to share or photo, its a way we can hear each others playing, just thought I would throw it out there. Check it out. button 2471 Mon, Dec 20, 11:05PM EST Rbacker Az, I guess Stu Hamm plays Linus and Lucy as well, both parts at once. Saw the book with this and several others but did not buy (doh!!) Thanks for the tip, writing it down. 2472 Mon, Dec 20, 11:07PM EST Rbacker O.T. Keep the questions coming. Seems like a minor misunderstanding occured and is now in the past. 2473 Mon, Dec 20, 11:08PM EST Rbacker Merry Chrismas to all from Samantha, Christopher, Alison and Mike. 2474 Mon, Dec 20, 11:11PM EST Rbacker Have any of yawl tried the strings wound with tape for fretless bass? what did you think? TIA. 2475 Mon, Dec 20, 11:39PM EST anon2 I use a Roland Chorus and a compressor that I can't do without, they are a part of my sound. Does that include fingers? A lot of my sound is from them :-) 2476 Mon, Dec 20, 11:51PM EST anonymous What is TIA? 2477 Tue, Dec 21, 0:03AM EST anonymous Thats Interesting Ants 2478 Tue, Dec 21, 0:03AM EST anonymous There Is Agnes 2479 Tue, Dec 21, 0:04AM EST anonymous Take It Away 2480 Tue, Dec 21, 0:04AM EST anonymous Till I Answer 2481 Tue, Dec 21, 0:11AM EST Funk (the degreed one) Knutz OT> Keep "em rolling-hell I'm on my third handle here because I made the mistake of answering someone's question about teaching. I felt my opinion was solicited. It soon became a free for all because of a certain paranoia people seem to have about practicing scales and modes. I realized quickly that this is a friendly place to drop names of players, and B.S. about gear-other subjects I know plenty about. My ten plus years of teaching bass however will stay in my studio. 2482 Tue, Dec 21, 1:10AM EST Thumpin >Funk Knutz: I agree about the content thing. I had to change my handle too, all 'cause I stated an opinion that irked someone out there. He or she wouldn't leave a name, but they sure took up space with other words. 2483 Tue, Dec 21, 3:54AM EST bassman Has anyone removed the frets on a bass. How did you do it ? Thank you. 2484 Tue, Dec 21, 6:31AM EST St. Skiball T'is five days to Christmas,so to all coast to coast/It may be a while till you see my next post/ Now dont get me wrong, you cats are the bomb/ but Im going up to Cleveland to visit me mom/ I cant say what presents are under her tree/ I cant even tell you- she has no pc/So on Big G,Rbacker,Mr bass and Levite/On Thumpin,on Funk Knutz Keep that bottom end tight/wishing you all the best tidings and cheers/ Ill be in the Dawg Pound, knocking back beers!!!!!!!!! 2485 Tue, Dec 21, 6:31AM EST St. Skiball T'is five days to Christmas,so to all coast to coast/It may be a while till you see my next post/ Now dont get me wrong, you cats are the bomb/ but Im going up to Cleveland to visit me mom/ I cant say what presents are under her tree/ I cant even tell you- she has no pc/So on Big G,Rbacker,Mr bass and Levite/On Thumpin,on Funk Knutz Keep that bottom end tight/wishing you all the best tidings and cheers/ Ill be in the Dawg Pound, knocking back beers!!!!!!!!! 2486 Tue, Dec 21, 6:37AM EST St. Skiball Merry Christmas from Steve and Tanya; Mrs. Skiball to be! (Im proposing in the POund) Peace love and bass! GO BROWNS!!!!!! 2487 Tue, Dec 21, 9:05AM EST Mr.Bass St. Skiball> I love that verse! Wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas, and that goes for all my bass brothers, and as always, be careful out there. 2488 Tue, Dec 21, 9:56AM EST fear As useual, I'm left out(heavy sigh) It would'a worked with cheers real good,, oh well maby next year. LOL!! I done caught the bug, crew at work stole my chex mix (for the office party today) and told me to go HOME! Have ya'll hurd the XMAS song parody of "purple haze" yet? It's a RIOT! been on the radio here. Famly is going to Quarintean me in here today, so you guys are my only link to the outside.Lowlifer Glad youe over it. and hope no one else gets it. 2489 Tue, Dec 21, 10:02AM EST fear Mr BASS I like your idea of MP3. count me in, will have to get some things though, maby ..SANTA? 2490 Tue, Dec 21, 10:12AM EST Thumpin >St. Skiball: You brought a smile to my otherwise groggy complexion this early morning. Thanks for the clever verse. Merry Christmas to you and all of my low end brothers. This chat post is one of the best resources I have found! 2491 Tue, Dec 21, 4:42PM EST levite St.Skibass....thanks for the mention...hmmm...have a great time in Cleveland.... we'll keep rockin the bayou.....take care and be careful.... 2492 Tue, Dec 21, 4:44PM EST fear Levite did you get mail? 2493 Tue, Dec 21, 6:00PM EST levite fear...ill check...ive been on the road for several days.....thanks.... 2494 Tue, Dec 21, 6:04PM EST levite yea fear...i got it..why would you be looking for a gui%$#st....hmmm...we dont use. one... just keys bass drumss.. percussion...and a choir...the gui%$r always looks for a spor to shine.... we dont need that.....anyway...keep up the good work on the original stuff...thats where its at.. and i dont know a DS in pinebluff...howeverr ..i was a music minister in Little Rock..from 82 to 84.... 2495 Tue, Dec 21, 6:58PM EST old-timer Just like to say Thanks guys...It really bothered me something so simple turned so complicated and political of all things!I value your inputs and thoughts as this chat is small but full of very nice people.FKnutz...you got the point way before I did..Thumpin...you caught hell too I take it? There is so much experience and hard earned knowledge here why is it so political? Mr. Bass , KBB, fear,RBacker,et. al. anyone got it figured out? There's a lot of tip-toeing around..."So much to learn,So little time". Can we take advantage of this 'tool of the 90's'(this bass chat)and share our combined knowledge with each other, rather than waste time? Is'nt that the biggest waste of all?Happy Holidays my friends... 2496 Tue, Dec 21, 6:58PM EST lowlifer 2497 Tue, Dec 21, 7:08PM EST old-timer Though I did'nt mention everyone's name,I include all of US in my message..lowlifer,levite,bassman,big g,Azbug,Skiball,anon,in fact, all you anon's(including those undercover Fender salesmen),Johnny A, and so on... lowlifer...very nice touch... 2498 Tue, Dec 21, 7:31PM EST lowlifer Yeah I was sent that giff in with a bunch of others and you see Santa is olf fashioned and still plays a four string. 2499 Tue, Dec 21, 8:52PM EST crimins OT > hey, if someone post's a flame here without a handle, then I consider that a coward's way out and not to be recognized. Your input here is welcome, and yeah, let's rock the boat every now and then. No progress without a little turmoil. If things were complacent all the time, life would be very dull, n'est pas? Skiball > I called Beaver Felton today at Bass Central. He is curr