1 Mon, Oct 7, 12:34AM EST Bassman test 2 Mon, Oct 7, 12:35AM EST Bassman great 3 Mon, Oct 7, 12:49AM EST Bassman test 4 Mon, Oct 7, 4:40PM EST AzBug Wow, That is some archive! I don't EVEN remember writing half the stuff I read on there from myself. Thanks for getting us going again, Bassman! You're a cool dude... 5 Mon, Oct 7, 4:57PM EST To the Bast! 6 Mon, Oct 7, 6:14PM EST we're back ;) 7 Mon, Oct 7, 6:16PM EST Thumpin Hey all, does anyone out there use the new Hartke 2200 cab yet? I am very interested in it, because it has a 12" that points UP toward the player. One of the reasons I bought my Hartke Kickback was for this reason. Now they're coming out with this and I wanted to see if anyone has bought one yet before I decide to. Thanks. 8 Mon, Oct 7, 9:10PM EST Thumpin Hey all again! Not many folks on this chat right now! Can anyone tell me who the bass player was on the Paul Simon hits "Loves Me Like a Rock" and "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"? What great playing. I heard it was either Tony Levin or Chuck Rainey. 9 Mon, Oct 7, 10:44PM EST AndrewT Hey Thumpin, the bass player on "Loves me Like a Rock" is David Hood. And Mr. Levin plays on "50 Ways". 10 Mon, Oct 7, 10:47PM EST AndrewT Can anyone out there recommend a good, small bass amp? Something good for small room gigs, about 60-Watts. I've been using a Roland Super Cube-60 for years, and love the tone I've got out of my fretless through it, but the amp is starting to go - starts to cut out when I have to push the volume enough to get over the drummer. Any good models that do justice to a fretless? 11 Tue, Oct 8, 1:29AM EST AzBug AndrewT: I've recommended Gens-Benz on his site before. Try them out before you buy! They have a great XLR LoZ DI Out that will help you play over the drummer when needed. Good luck! 12 Tue, Oct 8, 6:17PM EST JimJamb2277 Bassman...W.O,W.That was a wild Month of entries! Well Guys looks like i'm going to have to have that( Bass Brace *TM )Thing that was on my 79fender P,Manufactured Localy.The Bass Brace when attached to said fender Corrects it's Center of gravity/places the wieght of the axe on your collar bone/And was a gift from a real cool lady.later all 3 Tue, Oct 8, 8:44PM EST Thumpin AndrewT: Thanks for the info. Hood is one of those behind-the-scenes bassists who doesn't really have a spot in the limelight, yet the songs he played sure have. Same with Tony Levin. "Sledgehammer" may have been played to death on MTV, but you can't resist that cool, slinky, popping bass line, courtesy of Mr. Levin! Gotta give credit to the superb drummer on that track too, Manu Katche. 4 Tue, Oct 8, 9:14PM EST Luther Tony Levin also plays that great bass line on "Slip Slidin' Away". On the "behind the scenes" bass player thread, a buddy of mine was singing the praises of Lee Sklar the other day. I had almost forgotten how many great songs he's played on. I last saw him live with James Taylor in 1989 and he was great. He's a big fan of Carol Kaye...not to bring up the "archived chats" from the past (Jamerson vs. Kaye bass credits). If there's anyone here who listens to dub, the new Jah Wobble/Bill Laswell collaboration is first rate. It's called Radioaxiom and is just what you'd expect from either player. The production is also noteworthy. 5 Wed, Oct 9, 7:41AM EST crimins On the thread of great recordings with Lee Sklar on bass, check out Billy Cobham's "Spectrum" CD. 6 Wed, Oct 9, 12:59AM EST AzBug If you're into Katche' and Levin; Peter Gabriel's latest came out last week. He uses both guys again. Interesting stuff. As usual, it's lesson in music production. 7 Wed, Oct 9, 7:05PM EST Luther crimins...Spectrum is a great recording. In one of the projects I work with, we cover the title cut. Great stuff. AzBug..check out Martin Sexton's record "Wunderbar". Levin steals the show and plays some awesome melodic bass lines that remind me a bit of Graham Maybe's work with Joe Jackson. 8 Wed, Oct 9, 8:31PM EST JimJamb All,...I knew this site was great on my First visit over a yr. ago.My first bass was a Gibson EBO,W/Peavy TNT 100 combo,1978.As opposed to a Yamah 250 motor cross bike,I was 17.All Of the last post remind me of a few of the bassist that over the yrs have inspired me,and prove out what one of my mentors/trombonist (Teddy Adams)said not long after I joined his jazz quintet in 1983."If the gig only pays for three I'll use Voice,Horn,& Bass".Also..."If you'er not gigi'n Always Listen.To Everything you can"!Luther ..Sklar and his fellow side men cut an album under the name Slice.Thumpin...Levin ,An avid Photograhper,while on stage rigged a camera next to his foot pedals to document the settings so when listing to the play back he could recreate that sound.I'm arock fan who,By the grace of god was picked up early on by the local jazz musicians.Check out Greg Williams.com Later .Thanks ,James- Savannah Ga. 9 Wed, Oct 9, 8:35PM EST MoosBros Sklar.... I saw a TV special on him and his wife a while back,,, some show that was about collectables,,,seems he and the MRS dont miss a chance to rumage at junk and antique sales and flea markets....I can't remember WHAT they collect,, but,, they've got a BUNCH of it... 10 Wed, Oct 9, 11:25PM EST Mr.Bass Cobhams' A Funky Thide of Sings has great bass playing on it also...I think Sklar is on that album too. Talking about Cobham reminded me of an acoustic guitarist named Billy McLaughlin. Has anyone heard of him? He is on Naradas label, really nice playing. 11 Thu, Oct 10, 7:30PM EST gator My name is aaron and i was wondering how can i get faster on my bass 12 Thu, Oct 10, 8:46PM EST anonymous test 13 Thu, Oct 10, 11:28PM EST big g Mr.Bass jim jamb>> I got to see Billy a few times first,with Mahvishnu sp.? Then touring for his albums. Brecker Bros on horns. When you witnessed Billy Cobham, its hard to recall WHO was playing bass. One mofo drummer. 14 Fri, Oct 11, 1:22PM EST anonymous gator> Buy a McLaren bass! 15 Fri, Oct 11, 1:23PM EST anonymous1000 gator...aaron...practice...practice...practice...! 16 Fri, Oct 11, 5:28PM EST JimJamb All...I'm Financialy able to start my own small jazz /rock ensemble.I need a hit and run PA.But being a working side man I'm trying to build a Rack bass system(seperatepower 200 watts,pre-amp,15" cabinet)What do ya'll recomend?As for the band maybe,a larger power amp, say 800 watts, would allow me to switch-a-roony When my band was not gig'n?!? Later James 17 Fri, Oct 11, 5:30PM EST JimJamb PS Under 1800.00 for all 18 Mon, Oct 14, 11:06AM EST old timer Just thinking out loud...I had the pleasure of meeting Luther over the week-end . It really makes a difference when you can put a face to the nickname . Having something in common ( bass playing , of course ) made it possible to get along with him as if we had known each other for years . We have kidded around in here with the thought of all of us getting together in one place , that I think , would be something really special . How about we all meet at Fear's house ? Fear... What do you think ? 19 Mon, Oct 14, 10:17PM EST Fears speachless .......wow!...... what a honor that would be :) But how bout' a distenation we all could vacation to. . in other words .. .yall aint sticking me with the dishes LOL! Serioiusly tho , It would be one of the coolest things I think could happen . ...right up there with winning the loto or a visit to the space station. 20 Tue, Oct 15, 7:48AM EST MoosBros it would be kind of cool,,, especially if everyone showed up on the SAME DAY !!! LOL... we couldn't jam though,,, ?? no drrummers, or gui*&r players? we could drink beer and tell fish tales... 21 Tue, Oct 15, 7:50AM EST MoosBros speaking of the lotto,,, SC just got into the PowerBall Lottery,,, it's up to 51 MILLION..... boy what I could do with that kind of jack..... 22 Tue, Oct 15, 1:47PM EST old timer 'fear' and 'space station 'in the same sentence....? Moos , if you win , I might have a Bass you would be interested in... 23 Tue, Oct 15, 2:41PM EST anonymous test 24 Tue, Oct 15, 2:42PM EST anonymous test 25 Tue, Oct 15, 2:42PM EST anonymous test 26 Tue, Oct 15, 3:15PM EST Bass Bitch Hi guys. Oh my how I missed you. Hey you are talking about Billy Cobham....I did a gig in a little shitty jazz bar with him about 6 weeks ago. He married a good friends wife- quite a ladies man by all accounts. But a good guy and not at all arrogant. Z rich is quite liked by the stars- Tina Turner has a house 2 blocks away. ........ Back to bass- the best stack ever is 1 15" SWR Cab, with a goliath 3 (4 times 10") and a 750 head. If you wanna kick ass buy all these things. Those nice people at swr-------- VERY NICE. :-) 27 Tue, Oct 15, 3:17PM EST Bass Bitch SWR never let`s you down. SWR is the best. SWR is much too heavy for this bitch to carry but nevermind. - that why roadies exist. So, am I on record saying all those things????? GOOD. 28 Tue, Oct 15, 3:28PM EST Hey i love the bass no matter what type it is!!! 29 Tue, Oct 15, 4:34PM EST OnTheRoad SWR gear is WAY too midrangey and no where near dependable. Its for the pnut 911 fans. not any serious pro stuff. Not roadworthy not worth the huge prices they charge. 30 Tue, Oct 15, 4:36PM EST crimins Man, I'm still happy with my Peavey cabs. 31 Tue, Oct 15, 4:37PM EST MoosBros yeah,, I'm always o the lookout for new neet stuff.... I've been thinning/replacing lately......might sell the Ken Smith 5 neck-thru...or trade it towards a Yamaha TRB5P....to match my TRB6P got rid of my SWR Bass350 from the rack set-up,, and also let my '52 Telecaster go... I got a Clark tweed bassman guitar amp.... and I suppose IF I keep the rest of the bass rack,, I'll find an SWR Interstellar Overdrive to go with the Stereo800 in there.....I'm still hankerin for a Mesa Maverick 4x10 combo too,,, geez,, you'd think I was a guitar player or something..... but,, I've been pretty happy with my Ampeg B15 and 808 cabinet combination lately,,, it's been more than loud enough,, and is nice and warm(I love tubes) 32 Tue, Oct 15, 4:39PM EST MoosBros BassBitch,,, that's what the wheels and tilt-back handles are for,,, built in roadies.... I harldy ever let anyone touch my "things"..... hehe 33 Tue, Oct 15, 8:11PM EST Luther If any of you thought OT might have been bullshitting about all those basses he mentioned, forget the notion. He has more than Mars Music stocks...and all high end stuff. I became instantly attached to a nice little Alembic Series I with omega cut out. Unfortunately it's not for sale. To top it all off, for all you muscle car fanatics, there's nice 69' "Judge" in the garage with a 440/6-pack fully restored. Oh, and he makes a great soft crust Italian bread too. Well worth the 4 hour drive over the mountains. Don't worry OT, your address is safe from would-be wrong doers. 34 Tue, Oct 15, 9:28PM EST Fear I still want my CUDA ! OT Keep an eye out for a fixer upper. Could be just skin would be fine.. not for a resto... but a rod .. ...if you find one Ill drive up to get it.. 35 Wed, Oct 16, 8:38AM EST MoosBros I've never been able to afford muscle cars,,,,but,, one day I WILL have a nice URB !!! 36 Wed, Oct 16, 1:53PM EST old timer URB ?....Moos , is'nt that made by FORD ? Luther , Thanks for the write-up...the checks (bread) in the mail ! Fear...my son just might part with his 70 Challenger R/T in the near future...seems he's losing interest... 37 Wed, Oct 16, 3:34PM EST MoosBros old timer, not made by FORD,, but,, I've got the Ford 15 passenger van to haul it in..... !!! I'd even settle for a decent Englehart at this point... 38 Wed, Oct 16, 7:15PM EST anonymous Englehart makes saxaphones and trombones dont they ? 39 Wed, Oct 16, 8:25PM EST Yep, and Basses, too! 40 Wed, Oct 16, 8:25PM EST $1800 at Hammond Ashley... 41 Wed, Oct 16, 9:41PM EST MoosBros the model I'm interested in is I think a C9 or CL9.... ebony fingerboard, and tailpiece,, and a clear flamed maple finish... 42 Thu, Oct 17, 6:43AM EST Bass Bitch ON THE ROAD- dude, you need to check your shit out what you say. I only play bass for a living, and play with some great cats- I can afford the best, and that is why I chose SWR- the little cabs are cool for little people- have you actually heard the pro series? I think you have no clue what you are talking about. And who the f*ck is pnut 911? 43 Thu, Oct 17, 8:24AM EST PABass Luther I tought a "Judge" Was a GTO Judge, GM product, not a Mopar product, how about a "Super Bee", Superbird, Daytona, GTX, Road Runner? 44 Thu, Oct 17, 11:37AM EST AzBug I realize these Basses are incredibly overpriced, but, dang, they sure are pretty! This redwood top is ALMOST as nice as my Roscoe :-0! button 45 Thu, Oct 17, 11:38AM EST AzBug That's a Fodera, BTW. It's selling for somewhere around $5500... jeez! 46 Fri, Oct 18, 4:09PM EST old timer PABass...you're right , the model above the Super Bee is the R/T , both Coronet's . Oh , and Luther say's next time he ' crosses the mountains ' he's gonna drag your ass to beautiful Wistah to check out the ' herd ' and get some more bread to go along with your Vermont brew...something like that . 47 Mon, Oct 21, 7:20AM EST anonymous1000 Another time warp ? 48 Mon, Oct 21, 8:13AM EST big g I got an e-mail from rickenbacher, he's doing fine. His new digs are occupying most of his spare time right now. He sends his best to everyone. Speaking of mopar, he got a new dodge diesel, not a girlymans truck. LOL 49 Mon, Oct 21, 11:23AM EST Bass Bitch well now if you are all talking about trucks- that is one subject that I have no IDEA at all. Any-one try the new boss multiefx for bass? Would interest me to see what you guys think. See ya`ll 50 Mon, Oct 21, 7:52PM EST MoosBros BassBitch... I haven't used any effects for years,,, not since I threw my rack of bullsh*t in the river... I finally figured out that straight in was right for me. I do have a compressor,, but,, I never use it..... 51 Mon, Oct 21, 9:00PM EST lowlifer You know what mopar stands for? Mostly Old Parts And Rust. Big G is RB's email still the same as before? 52 Tue, Oct 22, 6:10AM EST cab problem? Hi people. I have a question, would it be o.k to connect a 750watt goliath 3 speaker to a 350watt combo amp? -as a slave speaker? OR would the whole thing blow up? I cannot afford a head for the big goliath yet. What should I do? (The 750 watt speaker has 8 ohms) 53 Tue, Oct 22, 6:13AM EST Bass Bitch MOOS BROS- yeah ef are a subject which you could discuss/argue for for years. But since playing with a cross-over band as a sub- I realised that abit of synth on bass- just as a mix to the clean signal- would be cool. But I am sick of carrying all those pedals around. A nice multipedal would go down a treat right now. :-) 54 Tue, Oct 22, 8:49AM EST MoosBros I thought you were using the SWR MoBass head the last time you were posting regularly,,, you're not the same BassBitch? 55 Tue, Oct 22, 8:49AM EST MoosBros btw,,, did anyone ever hear from LEVITE? 56 Tue, Oct 22, 4:04PM EST What is better than the ZOOM bass pedal for the money? ($99) 57 Tue, Oct 22, 4:44PM EST MoosBros Joe,,, I've used the Zoom acoustic guitar pedal,, and know of another guy who has the Zoom electric guitar pedal.... I tend to think most of their stuff is useless junk,, very noisy,,,not particularly musical sounding... I would suggest a SansAmp Bass Driver D/I if you don't already have one.Work on getting a great tone from your bass and amp,, THEN.... maybe try the Harmony Central Bass Message Boards,,, most of those guys seem to live and die by their effects...atleast,, , it seems they all use a bunch of em.....I'm more of a plug straight in/tone is in your fingers kind of guy.... 58 Tue, Oct 22, 4:47PM EST MoosBros you can use the Goliath just fine as an extension cabinet.. just be careful that you don't severely overdrive your amplifier(if it's a transistor amp)... that kind of distortion will smoke your speakers if you're not careful.... 59 Tue, Oct 22, 6:15PM EST old timer Levite....still MIA . Too bad , I've got a Pedulla MVP 5 with his name on it...Oh well ! 60 Tue, Oct 22, 9:21PM EST MoosBros a Pedulla 5 was the first nice ifve string I ever saw in person... 61 Tue, Oct 22, 11:21PM EST Luther OT...I thought it wasn't for sale?!!! Like Ozzy said....I'll be coming "over the mountain" when the status changes...same goes for the Series I!!!I'll see PABass next week. I've got lots of McNeil's Oatmeal Stout stocked up from my last trip your way, for his big 4-0. Vermont isn't good for much except maple syrup, cheap ski passes, leaf peeping tourists in October and McNeil's Brewery in Brattleboro. Every brew from McNeil's is like a sore dick...you just can't beat it!!! 62 Wed, Oct 23, 5:15AM EST Bass Bitch MOOS BROS- yeah it`s me. The MO`bass was stolen after a gig. But I won`t buy another- they are packed full of this and that- but the best tone is in the `normal`swr stuff I reckon. (It did look good though on stage in that flight box) 63 Wed, Oct 23, 5:18AM EST Bass Bitch LUTHER- is a sore dick a good thing? LOL 64 Wed, Oct 23, 10:03AM EST big g lowlifer>yes, same email addy. Joe>>although the general consensus is that if you want to use effects, individual effect boxes are better sounding than the all in one Zoom. For $99 you can't beat the zoom for bang for the buck, although I've found it not useful for stage it is fun to practice with and the tuner is accurate with my 5 string. I do use the slapback setting with our PA. Be sure to get an AC adapter as they eat up batteries. 65 Wed, Oct 23, 10:11AM EST button 66 Wed, Oct 23, 10:13AM EST BassLand Damn I keep forgetting to identify who I am on this board (Used to it being done automatically). That is a video clip of my band done at a Borders Book Store in Glendale 67 Wed, Oct 23, 11:42AM EST old timer Luther , you're thinking of the ThunderBass 5 , not for sale , the MVP 5 was the blueish-green one . They all look alike after a while.... and the Alembic...forget about it Guido ! 68 Wed, Oct 23, 11:43AM EST old timer BassLand...nice sound... 69 Wed, Oct 23, 1:33PM EST AzBug Bassland: SAH-Weet! Are you using a flange or chorus effect? Or, is it my MediaPlayer? The Tobias is sounding good! What Border's were you guys at? I used to play in a combo that played the 'Borders Circuit' out here, in Phoenix. I believe Borders just started popping up out there? I saw one for the first time when I was home a few months back. 70 Thu, Oct 24, 12:59AM EST PABass I had some problems with SWR heads, seems the 12AX7 tube (sp) can come loose and is mounted upside down, problems lies in that you cannot tell it is loose untile it craps out, I ended up with an Eden Wt800 that has been trouble free for 2+ years now, (fingers crossed) Bass Bitch, no....a sore dick is not a good thing!!! Just an expression of a good deal, lol. Mopars....I'll take a Viper any day of the week although I beleive a C-5 vette is the best bang for the buck.. Luther I had that Penta buzz awhile back you could've got cheap, when your down we'll take the Martin tour, those guitar sound hole cutouts make great coasters !! AZbug...Seems that Borders supports local music, bands in this area usually do some sort of scaled down acoustic set of musi in exchange for getting their disc in the stores, they hav a local band section at the store in Allentown, Pa. Cheers all!! 71 Thu, Oct 24, 6:25PM EST Bernie B in the PT Personally love Mopar, as I once had an old 'Cuda that turned over 5 times on the odometer w/only one engine rebuild. Lord knows how many Dodge Darts and Plymouth Valiants are still running around out there. I'm sure all of us have either owned one of those buckets 'o' bolts, or at least knew someone who has. Just got a new PT Cruiser--Great gig mobile for the price, and ten times hipper than a mini-van. I must admit that I too find SWR a tad mid-rangey, and plenty of people have bitched about the heads. Personally I think if they'd use a better grade AX-7 tube to begin with they wouldn't have that problem, and the tone would have more low end balls. Tubes I know, having been hooked on them in the past. Right now I am looking at combos again trying to decide between Roland, Polytone, or Acoustic Image (all solid state amps). Playing Upright and electric can really make you very picky about your sound, as the Upright demands a much flatter sound spectrum, but the electric needs a good pre amp to compensate for this. Have left the C&W circuit temporarily to get my bowed URB chops back. Our producer turned into a jerk, which was a drag because I really liked the manager and the vocalist. I'd still be making some jack off of this deal, but the creative spirit was fading, and I really don't need the money badly enough to sell my soul yet.The upright is sounding killer again, and I hope to be looking for another band after a few months to myself. Peace, Love, and Good Bass to all. 72 Thu, Oct 24, 7:28PM EST AATS Hi fellas and gal(s)! My bassist uses only a chorus on his bass, he came to a gig without it one night and the bass corner didn't sound as full, he hasn't left it home since. I think it's the T C electronic one. 73 Fri, Oct 25, 0:46AM EST Bernie B in the PT Electric is modified by Sans Amp Bass DI to give it some crunch, and URB goes through a Paracoustic DI {thanks for the tip Azbug} to help filter a little more wood into the sound. Other than that I let my fingers or bow colour the sound, though there was a time when I'dve given my left nut for a good wah wah peddle for upright. With a feedback heavy hog like URB, a solid bow technique plugged through a wah-wah I would've gone whack on some old Cream or Hendrix tunes. 74 Fri, Oct 25, 8:40AM EST MoosBros Bernie,,, just the idea of that is demented.....~~!! I always wanted to learn to play the cello... I love that tone... 75 Fri, Oct 25, 11:05AM EST crimins Hello all > I haven't posted here for quite some time, but I wanted to share my experience of seeing the Chick Corea Elektric Band last night here in Orlando. What a show! I was a little disappointed that Patitucci wasn't on the bill, but Jimmy Earl more than filled the bass chair with Chick. Jimmy used several basses, but his main one for the evening was a Ken Smith 6. All the other regulars were there - Gambale, Weckl, Marienthal. Weckl had me mesmerized. I really think Gambale stole the show, however. He's looking like the years are creeping up on him, but man, can he wail on the g****r. If they are coming through near any of you, they are a must-see. 76 Fri, Oct 25, 11:07AM EST crimins Hello all > I haven't posted here for quite some time, but I wanted to share my experience of seeing the Chick Corea Elektric Band last night here in Orlando. What a show! I was a little disappointed that Patitucci wasn't on the bill, but Jimmy Earl more than filled the bass chair with Chick. Jimmy used several basses, but his main one for the evening was a Ken Smith 6. All the other regulars were there - Gambale, Weckl, Marienthal. Weckl had me mesmerized. I really think Gambale stole the show, however. He's looking like the years are creeping up on him, but man, can he wail on the g****r. If they are coming through near any of you, they are a must-see. 77 Fri, Oct 25, 11:10AM EST crimins Sorry about the double post. 78 Fri, Oct 25, 12:15AM EST BassLand OldTimer & Azbug>>> Thanks for the comments guys. I tried to get on this site last night to find that it was down (happens a lot lately). AzBug, The Toby is going direct to the EA amp with no effects and because it was a low bitrate video, it could well be aliasing on the WMP. The Borders is in Glendale Ca. and there have been Borders in a lot of places in L.A. for a long time (the next week we played at the Borders in Pasadena). I almost never put any effects on my bass live and begrudgingly allow it on recordings (post production) if the producer wants it. I am one of those old timers that think a bass should sound like a bass... As you can tell from the video clip I also put myself way up in the mix. I think a live performance should be equal ballance to a recording in that the bass is usually right up front and personal. I jsut got my video editing bay up and running and this was a test to see if I could get something on the web tostream with fair resolution. I will be doing a lot of that in the near future. That band is recording it's second album and we are doing it a little differentr this time and with some surprisingly good results. On the other album (CD) we did it mostly recording all together. This time we are doing (at least) the first 4 tracks Bass & Drums first with keys playing but not recorded. The idea here is to get a great drum track and come back and spend time with the other instruments. If you guys don't mind, I will use this forum as a sounding board for some things I have done. I am interested in getting some outside opinions. Thanks again 79 Fri, Oct 25, 2:01PM EST AzBug BernieB: Hey! Glad to see you back. Sorry the gig didn't work out. Good to hear you are gonna get the URB chops back. How's the Lakland sounding/playing?....... Bassland: I figured it was the WMP. Still sounded great! Good luck with the multimedia stuff. I'm with you on the effects side. Only thing I ever use is compression. In fact, I try not to play without it. I guess compression would be signal processing more than effecting. Some may group it all together? I just replaced my original behringer composer with the composer pro. These pup's are one of the best investments I've ever made. Cheap, rugged (the first one took a beating in my rack), saves my cabinets, and polishes my tone. Can't beat it! Of course this is all IMHO, and YMMV. Funny you mention the new recording tactic; That is the way I'm used to doing it; Bass, Drums, G&&*ar/Keyboard, and a vocal scratch, but I was in one of the bigger production studios here, in Phoenix yesterday and the producer is doing the drums last! Everything else is going down to a click. I guess the drummer doing the gig is not a top notch studio cat so they are gonna make him play to everything else instead of the vice versa. Interesting concept. But, hey, it's not my cashola funding it, so more power to 'em! 80 Fri, Oct 25, 5:24PM EST ChickOnBass hey.. I am a thirteen year old bassist that has been playing for quite a while. Recently my family and i have decided to purchase an upright bass for me.. we have been looking online but i dont really know what to get or where to find it. If you know of anywhere or any webpages that might help me please email me at stingkt14u@yahoo.com or post ur own knowledge on here... thanks 81 Fri, Oct 25, 7:34PM EST MoosBros ChickOnBass.... BoB Grollier's URB web site is THE place to find out the info you seek.... 82 Fri, Oct 25, 7:37PM EST MoosBros ChickOnBass,, here's the source... Bob is a super guy,, and extremely knowledgable about everything URB..... button 83 Sat, Oct 26, 0:09AM EST BG103 ...... 84 Sat, Oct 26, 0:11AM EST BG103 TEST 85 Sun, Oct 27, 8:54AM EST Fear of wild life Oh brother ...Here i go again with another horror story..only it aint no story...A skunk breached the underpinning and found a crawl space behind a fiberglass tub shower unit....of course it sprayed...many times .... we stayed in a hotel all last week with a 5 min. get stuff togather warning . My question is How do I get rid of the smell on the amps and cabnets . Every thing we own is out side airing out...and it susposed to rain... This has been a horiffic ordeal that I wish on no one. 86 Sun, Oct 27, 10:49AM EST BassLand Hey Guys, I got a real surprise last night. We were in the car and for the first time I heard radio promos for Standing In THe Shadows Of Motown (the movie). The promotion machine ihas started and this film ought to be BIG. I am so happy for the Funk Brothers for after 40 years they are finally getting their dues! The radio station was 92.3 the Beat 87 Sun, Oct 27, 3:25PM EST big g fear>wife said get Orange Clean. Tomato juice is supposed to work well also. On the same note, my next door neighbor has had skunks raiding his chicken coop and stealing the eggs. He has been trapping them. He errantly picked one up from one of the traps last week that he thought was dead. Wrong! He got sprayed directly. He now shoots them first. He had to throw those clothes away. 88 Sun, Oct 27, 10:58PM EST lowlifer Fear this is for things that can be washed to get rid of shunk spraying, like a dog. 1 quart 3.0% hydrogen peroxidw from the drugstore... 1/4 cup baking soda (sodium bicaronate)... 1 teaspoon of liquid soap. This is for a house cat sized animal. Work it well into the fur and follow with a warm water rinse. It might work on other things that can be washed. 89 Sun, Oct 27, 10:58PM EST lowlifer skunk. 90 Mon, Oct 28, 6:09AM EST Andi Hi, I'm andi from Innsbruck, bassplayer for cover-and soulbands. I had several problems with my sound within the last concerts, and I try to work on that. Actually I don't play with effects, but I'm thinking of getting some for working on a better and a more precise tone. in some locations (more the small one) I have too much distortion, what can't be a problem of equipment. what to do to get a heavy, full tone? in that sense, I love Aston Barrett from Bob Marley, his live and studio tone is superb! Anyone have experience with the warwick quadruplet preamp? would a compressor help me? thanks for your help, maybe to my email Andreas.Liedl@gmx.net thanks and best regards, andi 91 Mon, Oct 28, 7:25AM EST Bass Bitch mmmmm nice to see another girl posting on here. It is like a a breath of fresh air. LOL 92 Mon, Oct 28, 9:49AM EST big g FOTFL 93 Mon, Oct 28, 1:04PM EST anonymous Hi, I'm Steve - I work in NY and live in NJ and would like to learn to play a bass guitar for pleasure/therapy and to convince my otherwise musical family that I can play something other than the stereo. I enjoy blues, rock and jazz and I would like to buy a bass that I can grow into over time. I was in a shop yesterday and started fooling around with a Warwick (thumb tone) and really liked the sound and the feel. Anybody out there who can give me some advice on Warwick or recommend any other brand. Steve 94 Mon, Oct 28, 4:58PM EST MoosBros Steve.... you might wanna check out the new Lakland Skyline series basses,,,, they would certainly be one you could happily keep for a long time.. exellent tone, value and quality 95 Mon, Oct 28, 5:00PM EST old timer Steve , first of all , Welcome . I dont want to sound like a dickhead , for lack of a better word , but , a Warwick Thumb bass is kind of pricey to start out on . What if by some chance you decide you dont want to play bass ? Thats a big investment to take a chance on . I'm not trying to talk you out of it , it IS a top notch bass , but maybe growing into it as you improve your playing and technique would be wiser . A really good bass DOES make you sound better but it also makes your mistakes STAND out as well . By all means start out with the best bass you can afford but , try out as many different ones as you can before making your choice...just some free advice . 96 Mon, Oct 28, 10:04PM EST Fear Buy a carvin! Buy a carvin ! Just kiddin' I'll agree with OT... But if the Warwick is in your range ...then by all means ..I'll have to atest to the Lakland I got one and its a good'in . so is my carvin ..and my 2 Ibanez's... and my 76 gibson. Give your fingers a taste of them all thats the best way ...and dont forget to play a Fender Jazz while your at it .. 97 Mon, Oct 28, 11:33PM EST fear Skunk is in the insulation and still spraying !!! Fish and game say it could be rabid its acting strange... tossed Moth balls tossed in 10 cans of foggers...Cranked Ampeg to 11 ... hit a power cord and held it till i couldnt feel anything being numb from feed back sustained vibration,,,, no skunk to be seen... baited food and set up all night twice ...wating for a head shot ....nothing .... all ( and I mean ALL)) of our stuff is in a fumeagating tent set up By the dammage control co that spec's in this sorta stuff ... like they do when dead people are found in a house for over 2 weeks...This is the pitts.... I'm selling out.... I've had enough S&*( to last a life time ... I'm Buying a house in town with a concrete floor `````````F#$^ underpinning and all that Jazz I'll NEVER BUY A Modular or mobile EVER AGAIN If it has wood floor joist.... FORGET IT,!!!,,, Sorry to rant Brothers but the whole family is very depressed right now And I'm ready to shoot something !!! 98 Tue, Oct 29, 7:34AM EST crimins Some of you may have seen the threads on TBL about MARS music going under, and it's true. I visited the Orlando store last night and signs were all over the place about them going OOB (that's out of business). EVERYTHING in the store is now 10% off the lowest sticker price, but I heard a sales guy say that as the weeks go on, that discount percentage will go up until they clear the place out. Steve> if there's a MARS near you your might want to check out the deals there for a startup bass. 99 Tue, Oct 29, 9:47AM EST That's for all info on effects pedals. I decided to get the Zoom 506. It was only $75.00. I got the power chord too. It works great... Thanks again all 100 Tue, Oct 29, 12:27AM EST old timer Fear...we all know shit rolls downhill but why is it you seem to be at the bottom of the hill everytime ? GawDam...remind me never to go to a Casino with you ! The Mojo continues.... 101 Tue, Oct 29, 5:40PM EST dr.nick hi everybody 102 Tue, Oct 29, 5:41PM EST dr.nick is any one here 103 Tue, Oct 29, 7:33PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Steve- I've gotta vote for the Lakland---Mine has been everything that a professional bass is supposed to be at half the price. It has served me well from C&W to Jazz --Lakland's big advantage besideds everything being set up correctly and feeling correct and sturdy is the number of good useable tones you can dial in. Until your fingers learn to dial it in, it's not bad to have a bass on hand that can do a lot of the work for you. Warwicks are exceptionally nice, but the price is a bit stiff for a beginner, and they have a unique sound. Though it is a good sound, it is not as versatile as a Lakland or Fender. That's probably why Fender is still here after all of these years, and why you can hear so many people sound so different on the same two models---Precision/Jazz. Lakland's are nice because they've kept the Fender Feel and they've updated the electronics. Just my two cents worth. 104 Wed, Oct 30, 6:27AM EST Bass Bitch well now, lakland`s are just a cheap copy of musicman. If you can hold a sack of potatoes, then buy a musicman. :-) 105 Wed, Oct 30, 6:29AM EST Bass Bitch .......... if you get a jazz bass- make sure it aint from Mexico- the basses as well as the booze from there is guarenteed to give one a head-ache. 106 Wed, Oct 30, 10:32AM EST AzBug Pull in the reigns, Bass Bitch! Don't mislead the new players around here. OLP's are the cheap copies of the Musicman. The Lakland Skyline series are more affordable copies of the US Laklands and are just about THE best deal out there right now for a decent instrument. I have owned an American Lakland for 2 years now. It's the best studio Bass I own. Just like what Bernie said above; you can tweak on them and get an array of tone. Tweak for hours on a Musiciman and it sound like a Musicman. Excellent sound, at that, but nowhere near as versatile as the Lakland, American, or Korean. Also, next time your in States gimme a call. I'll take you down to Puerto Penasco and we'll see how much of a headache you get after a few shots of Cusano Rojo! :-)Yep, Yep, a few shots of good, undiluted mezcal TQ will fix you right up! 107 Wed, Oct 30, 12:41AM EST Hugh Grant bass bitch> you certainly had to be a woman. narrow-minded point of view, micro-sized brain and probably can't play a clean E. go wash some dishes, bitch! 108 Wed, Oct 30, 1:02PM EST BG103 anybody here 109 Wed, Oct 30, 1:03PM EST anonymous1000 OUCH...! 110 Wed, Oct 30, 1:06PM EST BG103 Does anyone have any comments on the Eden WT-400 traveler head! I have heard for years that Eden stuff breaks down alot! 111 Wed, Oct 30, 5:25PM EST AzBug BG103: I have heard the same thing, but I have the Metro Combo which is the self-contained 2x10 Cab with the WT400 head and I haven't had any problems with it. Then again, I haven't had it out on the road. If I did I would most definitely have it in a shcok-proof anvil case with spring-loaded wheels on it. It would be worth it. The thing sounds awesome and is super versatile. 112 Wed, Oct 30, 7:05PM EST AATS Get a Spector and you won't want another bass, so my bassist says. 113 Wed, Oct 30, 7:52PM EST Bernie B in the PT Music Man, been there and done that---Ain't Jack Shit compared to a G&L, but then again G&L's were the best of Fender and Rickenbacker---tremendously nice combo. But for budget bucks go with the Lakland. Azbug--send me some Mezcal----I'm in need of something to clear out my brain cells. Thanks for the back up. My Lakland, like yours, records exceptionally well. Again the amount of tones you can dial in is a huge advantage. For the cat that was lookin' for an Upright--please let me know what type of music you plan to play. C&W, and Jump music will call for a good old fashioned Kay. If you plan to play Jazz and get the Ron Carter/Ray Brown/Paul Chambers sound--pony up for a Juzek (which will do well in symphonic situations as well). Spectors are nice axes, but again the number of tone is somewhat limited. As to the Fender bloodline I must say that James Jamerson Rocco Prestia, and Jaco all had completely different sounds---yet they all played Fenders. Bass Bitch--Next time you cruise through England, I highly recommend you cruise through the second hand stores looking for a Hayman 40/40. Played one for years until it got ripped off. Knowing your penchant for european axes, i.e., Clover, I believe you would find this to be an exceptionally cool axe with a lot of versatile sounds. Body of a Tele, and Jazz like pickups, but split and staggered like a P-Pickup. Throw an outboard preamp on that little monster and then figure out why Leo founded Musicman, and then finally teamed up with his buddy from Rickenbacker to found G & L; where they labored over this concept and came up w/the Z pickup. These early 70's axes were an easy 10-15 years ahead of their time. 114 Wed, Oct 30, 7:53PM EST Bernie B in the PT Music Man, been there and done that---Ain't Jack Shit compared to a G&L, but then again G&L's were the best of Fender and Rickenbacker---tremendously nice combo. But for budget bucks go with the Lakland. Azbug--send me some Mezcal----I'm in need of something to clear out my brain cells. Thanks for the back up. My Lakland, like yours, records exceptionally well. Again the amount of tones you can dial in is a huge advantage. For the cat that was lookin' for an Upright--please let me know what type of music you plan to play. C&W, and Jump music will call for a good old fashioned Kay. If you plan to play Jazz and get the Ron Carter/Ray Brown/Paul Chambers sound--pony up for a Juzek (which will do well in symphonic situations as well). Spectors are nice axes, but again the number of tone is somewhat limited. As to the Fender bloodline I must say that James Jamerson Rocco Prestia, and Jaco all had completely different sounds---yet they all played Fenders. Bass Bitch--Next time you cruise through England, I highly recommend you cruise through the second hand stores looking for a Hayman 40/40. Played one for years until it got ripped off. Knowing your penchant for european axes, i.e., Clover, I believe you would find this to be an exceptionally cool axe with a lot of versatile sounds. Body of a Tele, and Jazz like pickups, but split and staggered like a P-Pickup. Throw an outboard preamp on that little monster and then figure out why Leo founded Musicman, and then finally teamed up with his buddy from Rickenbacker to found G & L; where they labored over this concept and came up w/the Z pickup. These early 70's axes were an easy 10-15 years ahead of their time. 115 Wed, Oct 30, 7:53PM EST Bernie B in the PT Music Man, been there and done that---Ain't Jack Shit compared to a G&L, but then again G&L's were the best of Fender and Rickenbacker---tremendously nice combo. But for budget bucks go with the Lakland. Azbug--send me some Mezcal----I'm in need of something to clear out my brain cells. Thanks for the back up. My Lakland, like yours, records exceptionally well. Again the amount of tones you can dial in is a huge advantage. For the cat that was lookin' for an Upright--please let me know what type of music you plan to play. C&W, and Jump music will call for a good old fashioned Kay. If you plan to play Jazz and get the Ron Carter/Ray Brown/Paul Chambers sound--pony up for a Juzek (which will do well in symphonic situations as well). Spectors are nice axes, but again the number of tone is somewhat limited. As to the Fender bloodline I must say that James Jamerson Rocco Prestia, and Jaco all had completely different sounds---yet they all played Fenders. Bass Bitch--Next time you cruise through England, I highly recommend you cruise through the second hand stores looking for a Hayman 40/40. Played one for years until it got ripped off. Knowing your penchant for european axes, i.e., Clover, I believe you would find this to be an exceptionally cool axe with a lot of versatile sounds. Body of a Tele, and Jazz like pickups, but split and staggered like a P-Pickup. Throw an outboard preamp on that little monster and then figure out why Leo founded Musicman, and then finally teamed up with his buddy from Rickenbacker to found G & L; where they labored over this concept and came up w/the Z pickup. These early 70's axes were an easy 10-15 years ahead of their time. 116 Wed, Oct 30, 7:54PM EST Bernie B in the PT Talk about your sticky transmit buttons---sorry for the triple post folks! 117 Thu, Oct 31, 9:01AM EST Bass Bitch well hugh Grant- I am over-booked and sometimes double booked with gigs/studio and writing work- so I can`t be that bad- and has for washing dishes? nah- I have a great cleaning lady who does that- actually she is also from Mexico. Bernie B- yes, next time I come back to England I will check that out. I hear the bass centre in London is quite good, but i am a yorkshire girl myself-up north everything is much cheaper. Thanx for the tip. 118 Thu, Oct 31, 11:53AM EST crimins I just bought an Aria Pro II Steve Bailey model 6-string fretless from a fellow in CA. Should be arriving next week. I've had my Carvin 5-string fretless for over 2 years now, but I wanted to get a 6 since my fretted bass is also a 6. I'll be selling the Carvin. I'll try locally first, but if that doesn't work, be on the lookout at bassgear.com if anyone's interested. 119 Thu, Oct 31, 11:37PM EST West coast bass I need some tips on bass soloing for jazz. Is anyone good enough to help me 120 Fri, Nov 1, 8:19AM EST Bass Bitch west coast- learn to recognise 2minor 7`s and dominant 5`s, and then learn riffs from old jazz records- alot of jazz shit has only such 2 5 progressions- for instance Miles Davis` `TUNE_UP` listen to how he tackles such patterns. Learn that jazz has no rules, and that many people don`t even think about scales- they just go with the flow- and play utside`- but I reckon that it is also important to play nside`LOL have fun, and if your stuck, just adjust your amp when you are not sure. :-) 121 Fri, Nov 1, 6:08PM EST PABass BG103,,, i have been gigging with a WT800 and have not any problems as of yet! 122 Fri, Nov 1, 6:15PM EST PABass Luther.........AHH the McNeils!! O.T...Luther bring you any McNeils? 123 Sat, Nov 2, 1:30PM EST old timer PABass...nope , but I got to play that " homemade " bass of his , which was pretty sweet . Maybe one of these days we can all meet at Killington or there-abouts and share some serious brew and bullshit together...Mr. Bass , you interested ? Who else is in this neighborhood ? 124 Sat, Nov 2, 8:23PM EST Luther PABass, OT, I'm going to be playing the Deacon's Den in Dover, VT for the weekend of Dec. 13-14th. It's next to Mt. Snow and with any luck, we'll have some snow by then. If you're up for it, we could throw back some McNeil's and spin some yarn. I'll be gigging with a midget tonight...one of my more "colorful" gigs. He may be short, but keeping up with his big chops is a "tall order". 125 Sun, Nov 3, 4:17PM EST old timer Luther...I've got a week-end in NYC penciled in for that date...if it falls through Mt. Snow sounds good . I'll get the ski's waxed-up , just in case . 126 Mon, Nov 4, 12:51AM EST Bass Bitch hey bernie b- you never explained why that button was sticky.......... I would be quite intersted. :-) LOL 127 Mon, Nov 4, 12:51AM EST Bass Bitch interested even 128 Tue, Nov 5, 9:46AM EST AzBug Wuh-Oh, your turn! 129 Tue, Nov 5, 5:01PM EST MoosBros I hope she has fresh batteries....LOL.... 130 Wed, Nov 6, 5:32PM EST Big Bottom (aka Mr. I - can't - wait - to - get - back - to California!!) Hey Dudes. I hereby promise that this will be the last non-music related sob story that I will ever post on this site. First my Tale of Woe. Then Some Bass Content....My wife and I separated 2 years ago, and I moved to Sacramento, CA. As anyone who lives there can confirm, Northern California is one mighty fine place to live. Well, my wife lured me back to New York with promises of reconciliation, only to reveal (actually, I had to dig to find out) that she's got a serious boyfriend that she could have told me about before I moved. Now I've filed for divorce and I'm stuck in New York for at least a year between my job and my lease. When this year is up, I'm going back to CA forever. 131 Wed, Nov 6, 5:48PM EST Big Bottom The Bass content - Now that I'm sitting alone with my cat in an empty apartment, I tried to think of something that might a) cheer me up, and b) let me make good use of my year long sentence in New York. What makes a bass player happiest? My answer - a brand spanking new bass. I headed out to buy a Rick because I always wanted one, but the one they (Sam Ash, White Plains NY) had had a dead bridge pickup. I then inquired about a 5-string, and was pointed to what I think is a truly cool find that I'd like to share with you, particularly any one who is budget minded (like me). I got a Stuart Spector Designs neck-thru-body 5 string for $599. SSD makes basses that run all price ranges. My bass, if it had been hand made in Woodstock, NY, would run about $5,000. The bass I got was made in Korea to SSD specs, and I swear that you wouldn't know the difference, other than the different electronics and lack of gold plated hardware. Mind you, I've never played a $5,000 bass, so someone who has might feel differently. But the thing is well crafted, sounds great, and feels like furniture, just like a bass ought to. Best Regards to all you low-enders. 132 Wed, Nov 6, 6:31PM EST anonymous When do you know you have no chance of learning how to play the bass been trying for a year a still can't play 133 Thu, Nov 7, 6:36AM EST Andi Lucky you, I've been playing for 10 years and still can't play! So, my question to the bass-players amongst you: got to buy a compressor and have to decide between the joe meek stereo compressor and the dbx160a. whats your recommendation?? thanks and best regards 134 Thu, Nov 7, 7:48AM EST crimins Andi > although I've never used either of the compressors you mention ( I use a dbx 260 stereo - cheaper than the 160a) I have seen more bass players mention using the dbx160a than the Joe Meek. I've seen the Joe Meek mentioned more in recording studio use. Hope this helps. 135 Thu, Nov 7, 8:02AM EST MoosBros I have a compressor in my bass rack setup,, but,, since I've gotten it,, I have found that I really don't like how it affects the feel and tone of my playing... so I pretty much don't use any processing anymore... I leave that up too the soundguy in the FOH or whatever,,, but my stage rig is pretty much just a straight shot from my fingers to the bass to amp to speakers... 136 Thu, Nov 7, 8:07AM EST MoosBros The compressor is an Ashely single channel of some sort..it resides in the rack and is used just as a peak limiter so the SWR Stereo800 doesn't wreak havock with the Ampeg SVT Classic 808 cabinet.. the same cabinet sounds just fine when I use the Ampeg B15R to drive it, and doesn't sound like it needs any compression..... it is usually my 1st choice for most gigs, unless it's a huge stage, outdoors,, or I suspect the rest of the band is going to be louder than hell.....I guess I like tubes....... 137 Thu, Nov 7, 9:51AM EST Gonzales hello to you... tips on improvisation, anyone? 138 Thu, Nov 7, 11:37AM EST What is the best bass and amp for playing gospel music, I was given a ibanez sr400rb and a ampeg b100r will this combo work or should I go out an buy my own setup. 139 Thu, Nov 7, 12:52AM EST crimins A# - hey, whatever sounds good to you. I don't think I'd be using an SVT for gospel, but something in the mid- to lower-decibel level should fit. Best bass? Once again, whatever sounds good to you. 140 Thu, Nov 7, 1:12PM EST anonymous What evil forces on earth would make a poor man say that he prefers California over New York? Mankind is a wicked race indeed. 141 Thu, Nov 7, 1:15PM EST old timer BigBottom...Sorry you're 'stuck' in NY , but dude , would you rather be stuck in Clevland ? ( Sorry there JohnnyA ! )Anyway , I agree with you on the SSD , I've got one from Woodstock and the imported version is very close to it . Really the biggest difference is the tone , if that makes sense . You got a sweet deal , enjoy it while you 'serve your sentence'...! 142 Fri, Nov 8, 5:06AM EST Bass Bitch with new batteries. hi guys, hey any-one ever try the yamaha John patti. model? I have the chance to buy one cheap. I will say a teary-eyed good-bye to my clover. pro`s cons? I think the cheesy video that John made is putting me off buying his endorsed bass. What do you guys think? 143 Fri, Nov 8, 7:33AM EST MoosBros BassBitch,,, I have the TRB6P.... it is a very nice souding, playing bass. It has a WIDE neck, so be sure you can deal with that. THe mids are quite smooth and jazzy,, and it has a huge, deep low end tone.. the bridge saddle piezo pickups git it a very "woody" sound. They aren't for everyone,, but ,, I doubt I'll ever sell mine. I found it used,, in a pawn shop, but it still wasn't all that cheap. Around $1000 USD....but worth it... 144 Fri, Nov 8, 9:56AM EST JohnnieA old-timer>> No offence taken. I was doing a life sentence in the land of the Cleves, but escaped during the summer of 72. I do sneak back from time to time to see relatives and old high school inmates who still there. I must admit though, it was a swingin town with a lot of good music and tons of venues to play. The weather drove me out. Later 145 Fri, Nov 8, 1:08PM EST anonymous To Anonymous > Spend some time in Northern California and find out. It's a whole different state of mind than Southern CA, where everything bad you've heard about California is pretty much true. 146 Fri, Nov 8, 1:08PM EST Big Bottom That's me above. 147 Fri, Nov 8, 1:50PM EST big g I'll 2nd that. 148 Fri, Nov 8, 3:05PM EST crimins Well guys & gals, I got my Aria Pro II Steve Bailey model 6-string fretless yesterday. Very nice. Plays like buttah, so they say. The guy I bought it from took very good care of it. It's 8 years old, but looks mint. I'll be saying goodbye to my 5-string Carvin fretless soon. 149 Fri, Nov 8, 5:56PM EST Bass Bitch MOOS BROS- well thanx for the tip. Basses are like friends- you make them-lose them. Swap m for others. mmmmmmmm that was quite philosophical for me. LOL.By the way, any-one ever heard of the band CREATOR? 150 Fri, Nov 8, 6:06PM EST MoosBros BasBitch.... I would apply your philosophy to girlfriends.. but a good bass is like a good dog,,, friends for life... 151 Fri, Nov 8, 6:06PM EST MoosBros Although,, I will concur,,, variety is the spice of life.... 152 Fri, Nov 8, 6:08PM EST MoosBros BassBitch,, WHICH TRB-P model are you looking at? an older neck-thru or the newer series? 153 Sat, Nov 9, 9:07AM EST Bass Bitch MOOS BROS- a bolt-on neck, second hand new model unfortunately a natural wood finish. I would have opted for a pale blue, or something about over the top- but I know that this isn`t important. A friend has also a 50 piece thru neck, but real expensive even though also second hand. About girlfriends, well you know, some-one told me that the best thing about being a pro is that you have pick of the bunch (girlswise) after every gig. You know, since changing my stage-name to bitch, you would have thought that other girls would take offense. But I find that even at smaller gigs, girls swarm around like flies. It is cool, but sometimes that bitch wants her peace. All my contracts now state that the changing room must have a bed or a couch for just that purpose. When I was studying, I never believed the stories my tutors would tell about after-gig escapades. It seems that when you are in the limelight, everybody wants a piece of you. Any of you guys already jealous and frothing at the mouth? LOL 154 Sat, Nov 9, 9:08AM EST Bass Bitch MOos Bros, and yes variety is the spice of live. If you eat at mcdonalds everyday and eat a big mac, you may find that maybe once you may fancy chicken nuggets. LOL 155 Sat, Nov 9, 9:09AM EST Bass Bitch life even 156 Sat, Nov 9, 1:03PM EST anonymous1000 What the hell did you just try to say..... 157 Sat, Nov 9, 5:24PM EST Bass Bitch .anon, I tried to say that having the same woman gets boring afer a while- even if she is great. Having scenes with another bitch may be better or worse, but as MOOS BROS said variety is the spice of life. 158 Sun, Nov 10, 8:43AM EST Archer Hey Yall, Got the Boss GT-6B FX unit, so far ok, got to isolate some distortion and probably send it back for a fix. Pre apm is handy. Not a programers version of nirvana but I'll probably keep it. 159 Sun, Nov 10, 11:27AM EST Mr.Bass Big Bottom> You got a wrong deal there from your spouse, sorry about that. I have to agree with you about the Spectors I am on my second one, the Europe Series made in Czech. This bass is supposed to be a cut below the US series but I couldn't tell a significant difference apart from the 1500. higher price tag. and fancier inlays. If you ever get up into CT give me a holler. RSant19779@aol.com 160 Sun, Nov 10, 11:10PM EST button 161 Mon, Nov 11, 3:00PM EST Destination Hey all bass fans listen to a new style of bass at our site and let us know what you think 162 Mon, Nov 11, 4:28PM EST anonymous And that site would be..... 163 Wed, Nov 13, 8:35AM EST crimins Man, it sure is quiet in here lately. Let's start something! "I think Jeff Berlin is _________________." Just kidding guys. I like Jeff and his approach to our craft/art. 164 Wed, Nov 13, 10:10AM EST big g I'm sure most of you frequent other bass chats and I found this gem at the Fender Discussion Page. The question was, "what is your favorite thread? Sparkymeb replied. " Jaco and Jamerson, Ox, and the Duck Rare closet relics, found with some luck 'A', 'B' and 'C', and reverse machine heads These are a few of my favorite threads P versus J, for the two thousandth time What CBS did, was it really a crime? Saw this on eBay (should we call the Feds?) These are a few of my favorite threads Ohmage and chromage, including pup covers Japanese, Mexican, lose all the others 12th fretted inlays in necks one embeds These are a few of my favorite threads When the pup fails When the amp blows When I feel like toast I simply remember my favorite threads And then I just add a post Action and string gauge and truss rods that tighten Carved up wood bodies that really do frighten Sunburst and clearcoats, antiguas and reds These are a few of my favorite threads Active and passive, and pots that don't function Tubes and transistors, and ground-wire junctions Pictures in books or in magazine spreads These are a few of my favorite threads 4, 5, 6, 7, at least it's not twenty 10's, 12's, and 15's in enclosures a-plenty They don't agree, so they must be inbreds These are a few of my favorite threads When the string breaks When the paint runs When I'm feeling grossed I simply remember my favorite threads And I make one more post (With apologies to Rodgers & Hammerstein)" This one is a KEEPER FOTFL 165 Wed, Nov 13, 11:13AM EST AzBug g; *ROTFL*!!! 166 Wed, Nov 13, 1:36PM EST Bass Bitch OMG that dude needs help huh? 167 Thu, Nov 14, 9:30PM EST AzBug Finally posted a few pics'. Some old, some new... button 168 Fri, Nov 15, 4:15PM EST AzBug Finally got the stupid pic file working! 169 Fri, Nov 15, 7:10PM EST Mr.Bass Az> Those are some beautiful basses!! I bet they sound as good or even better than they look...I am jealous LOL!..... big g> That was funny, they really let it fly over there at The Fender page. 170 Sat, Nov 16, 3:37PM EST Peruman I have 2 questions about fretless: 1- Because it's much harder to PERECTLY tune a note on the fretless, are those simultaneous octaves avoided? I rarely hear a fretless player play that! If I'm wrong, I would appreciate some help on the issue. 2- Harmonics slide: It seems that I can't get a harmonic slide on the 12th fret. Everywhere else it's ok. Why is that? Thanks.... 171 Sat, Nov 16, 5:10PM EST Myungian hey peeps 172 Sat, Nov 16, 5:11PM EST Myungian Can anyone tell me a good website that contains information about how the bass exactly works? the electrical/technical stuff i mean. That would be much appreciated. 173 Sun, Nov 17, 2:56PM EST anonymous HUH........? 174 Mon, Nov 18, 8:57AM EST Bass Bitch man, this site is going down-hill fast. And for once it is not my fault. LOL 175 Mon, Nov 18, 10:21AM EST Peruman Nothing yet? 176 Mon, Nov 18, 11:12AM EST anonymous Hi anyone there? 177 Mon, Nov 18, 11:12AM EST BaseLine9 I guess not :( 178 Mon, Nov 18, 1:36PM EST AzBug Peruman: I don't understand your first question. Octaves? Tuning? Would you be talking about unisons at the 5th fret and the next string open? I tune my fretless, usually starting with the A string to an A/440hz source; Then, Harmonics the rest of the way. As for ascending and descending harmonic slides from the 12th fret; You might want to check the set of your guitar. You may have a dead spot, or your action may be set a bit high? Hope some of this helps and good luck! 179 Mon, Nov 18, 1:36PM EST FENDERGENDERBENDER Could anyone explain to me the difference between the Precision and the Jazz? Besides the pickup configuration and the narrower neck? 180 Mon, Nov 18, 2:18PM EST Peruman Azbug> I'm sorry, My english does not seem to improve with time. Neither my fretless playing. What I meant was: If I am playing a C in the third fret on the A string, and try to make that a litlle fatter with the C in the fifth fret on the G string, I ALWAYS have to fine-tune that second note, instead of hitting it right on the head. I know that the common advice is: Practice more and more. I am doing this and I find it REALLY hard. It sounds laughable, but I would like to see some of those very good fret players to play a groove in octaves and make that sound PERFECTLY ( that is the keyword ) in tune. 181 Mon, Nov 18, 3:21PM EST crimins Peruman > you are correct. The only way to get octaves right is to do it over and over until you finally get your left hand muscles trained to do it. I've gotten pretty good at it, but I still have to look at the fretboard. 182 Mon, Nov 18, 4:05PM EST AzBug Peruman: crimins is correct. You have to practice until you get the muscle memory going in your favor. Believe me, I know it's tough, but it's the only valid way to get it down. What I feel is the best recommendation I can give is in the approach to practicing; don't beat yourself to death with it and don't make expectations of yourself you can't keep. Pick up your Bass, adjust your left hand until your fingers are in the correct position and pluck away. If it isn't working and you're getting frustrated, put the Bass down and come back to it later. This has worked the best for me. I hope it may help you? Another key point; Patience! 183 Mon, Nov 18, 4:12PM EST AzBug Peruman: Something else that might help; I got this from Gary Willis when I was fortunate enough to grab a couple hours of his time when he was in town; Practice fretless intonation with a known, valid tone source. Ensure whatever you're using to produce tone is at A 440hz. I have one of those Boss Dr. Rhythm boxes that produces musical tone AND cool rhythm loops so I can practice intonation and time together. Again, good luck! 184 Mon, Nov 18, 6:00PM EST Peruman Thank you, guys. This Gary Willis thing sounds very interesting, I will try to write some simple bass lines in CAKEWALK and play along. 185 Mon, Nov 18, 6:06PM EST Peruman Crimins> I am a huge fan of mr. Berlin. Wouldn't you know where can I find a transcription of his solo on "BACH"? And, as we were talking about technique, I don't think I know a bass player that sound so fast and CLEAN on the E string. 186 Mon, Nov 18, 6:06PM EST Peruman If you do, let me know, please! 187 Tue, Nov 19, 7:17AM EST Bass Bitch Gary Willis? I organised a concert for him in Z rich, I brought a beer over to him, and just thought that I was a groupy. He don`t drink beers that are given to him. Maybe he he scared of a terrorist attack. From the `heineken clan? Or maybe he just don`t drink beer?..LOL 188 Tue, Nov 19, 9:54AM EST crimins Peruman > sorry, but I don't know where you can find that transcription from Jeff B. Maybe someone else in here does? 189 Tue, Nov 19, 10:22AM EST AzBug Bass Bitch: That's funny! When I sat down for a 'Master Class' with him, I found him to be friendly, yet pretty quiet. Maybe a little introverted, but I'll tell you what, that guy can play! He performed a clinic before private sessions and pretty much blew everybody away!... Peruman: If I'm not mistaken, Berlin has a school and answers emails at his address at the school. You could go right to the source! Give it a try? 190 Tue, Nov 19, 10:57AM EST crimins Here is Jeff's school, The Player's School of Music in Clearwater, FL > button 191 Tue, Nov 19, 5:50PM EST old timer Luther...picked up a Warwick Corvette Standard 5 today , too good of a deal not to . Just cant seem to thin out the herd...Just when I was out they pull me back in ! 192 Tue, Nov 19, 9:34PM EST Luther OT...The G-3 reference is always appreciated. So, you got a 'vette, huh? How do you lke the bolt-on neck? BTW...Is the "spoiler series" still for sale? You know x-mas is around the corner and my wife asked what I wanted. She went as far as to ask, "Is there anything you wanted to get from the guy in Worcester? We could always taker another trip..." After my jaw was picked up off the floor I remembered a few nice pieces that caught my eye. Any new thoughts on the Series-i Omega cut out? 193 Tue, Nov 19, 10:48PM EST Archer Peruman, the only thing I would add would be spaced repetition. The brain tends to burn a path for something better if you do it several times a day instead of one long session ect. That lets you "forget" it and then re remember it. That is a little esoteric but true. Also try removing your hand from the neck, then back for the "chord", then release the neck repeat. You may also want to read "Hiding non linear intervals in symetrical idioms". 194 Tue, Nov 19, 10:50PM EST Archer AZ, done any gigs with a guitarist named Danna out there? 195 Wed, Nov 20, 4:27AM EST Billy Sheenan Hi guys! someone want o chat with a spanish bassist? 196 Wed, Nov 20, 4:28AM EST Billy Sheenan hey! 197 Wed, Nov 20, 7:16AM EST Bass Bitch AZBUG, yeah he can play, and has an unusual approach to playing. I find his videos alittle unstructered though. Mayb he was just pissed off that night because everbody wanted to talk with him. Alain Caron is cool though, I was talking to him for over an hour......... he`s not a big-head neither, which is nice. It is interesting to speak personally with world-class players, if only to find out what kind of people they are. The guys from `SWEET` were pretty much down to earth, I played a closer for them a few weeks ago, the first gig on their world tour. Check them out if they are playing near you, the singer/bass-player has a great bass. The band are tight as Britney Spear`s arse-hole. 198 Wed, Nov 20, 10:27AM EST AzBug Bass Bitch: I hear ya'! Willis is a great player. I don't think he was pissed. He's just very soft spoken and quiet. I think he is a great technical player, but, in my opinion, Alain Caron is the next 1 or 2 levels up from him. Caron is a natural. I've never had teh chance to meet him. As far as I can tell he rarely comes to my area of the world. I would definitely jump at the chance to talk with him! I have a couple of his solo CD's. He's a master! 199 Wed, Nov 20, 10:30AM EST AzBug Archer: Sorry, I've never met, or heard of Danna. What genre does he/she play? I don't get out too much around here. If it's a gig it's usually with a piano player I like to play with and in some small Jazz club around town. Most of my playing these days is in the studio. 200 Wed, Nov 20, 1:11PM EST Bass Bitch Caron is a great guy, not just a great musician. On the road alot though. That can get ya down. 201 Wed, Nov 20, 3:20PM EST crimins Az & BB > Man, am I jealous. Alain Caron and Gary Willis never come into Florida as far as I know. I would travel several hundred miles to see either one of them. They are two of my favorites! Maybe I'll check their web sites to see if they are coming this way. 202 Wed, Nov 20, 3:57PM EST AzBug crimins: I think Willis has been to Bass Central a couple times... not sure. Caron is french canadian, and according to his web page sked he doesn't come south of the canadian border very often. He's over in europe quite a bit. He's super popular in france. 203 Wed, Nov 20, 6:04PM EST Bass Bitch I met Willis and Caron- but am nearly ashamed to say the artist with the most energy I ever saw was Henry Rollins. 204 Thu, Nov 21, 8:16PM EST Mr.Bass Gary Willis played at Bass Day a few years ago in NYC. His playing was to over the top for my taste, or maybe I should say it was just over my head, but when he played it was flawless. I wasn't that familiar with him at the time. There were so many bassists there I think he decided to do something totally different and he started out with just strange sounds coming from the bass. 205 Fri, Nov 22, 4:44AM EST OBJECT id="WMPlay" width="322" height="294" classid="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95" codebase="button standby="Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components..." type="application/x-oleobject" VIEWASTEXT PARAM name="FileName" value="button PARAM name="ShowControls" value="1" PARAM name="ShowDisplay" value="0" PARAM name="ShowStatusBar" value="1" PARAM name="AutoSize" value="0" PARAM name="DisplaySize" value="2" EMBED type="application/x-mplayer2" PLUGINSPAGE="button filename="button name="WMPlay" showcontrols="1" showdisplay="0" showstatusbar="1" autosize="0" displaysize="2" width="322" height="294" /OBJECT 206 Fri, Nov 22, 4:47AM EST Sorry about the above, I was trying to post a video of my band and it did not work. The video is here button 207 Fri, Nov 22, 11:02AM EST crimins Your button still does not work. And who might you be? 208 Fri, Nov 22, 11:30AM EST AzBug I believe that is the Mighty Bassland? My guess, anyway. 209 Fri, Nov 22, 2:06PM EST crimins Having seen The Dave Weckl band a few months ago, I have updated my cD collection to add some from his band. I'll tell you what - Tom Kennedy on bass just knocks me out. He and Weckl fit like hand and glove. Tom's playing is funky, tasty, in the groove, and "over the top" in just the right places. If you can check out some of the Weckl Band's CDs, do it. 210 Sat, Nov 23, 0:22AM EST Mr.Bass crimins..I agree, I have 3 CD's by Weckl and they are great. 211 Sat, Nov 23, 6:30PM EST Luther I've met Weckyl...he's not a nice guy...very pushy and hoity-toity... A buddy of mine was a highly sought after high end foreign car mechanic back in the mid-80's. Weckyl brought his Porshe 911 Carrera in for some work and was a total douche bag. My pal called me to come over and meet him just for shits and giggles. I was put off and couldn't care less how many chops the guys had. I hung with Yes a couple of weeks ago...Alan White, great guy, fun to talk to...Steve Howe, nice guy too, won't shake hand because of arthritis, Rick Wakeman, smarmy, witty and ball busting, John Anderson...great guy to talk to..very spiritual and definitely under the influence of cannibus...Chris Squire...stand-offish asshole with way too much booze in his system. Moral of the story: It ain't what you've done, it's who you are!!! OT, PABass, Mr.Bass....You know what I'm talking about. 212 Sat, Nov 23, 9:28PM EST crimins OK. Who's the old guy in the beer commercials showing now who steps out of the kitchen and fills in for the missing bass player? Is that Squire? 213 Sun, Nov 24, 3:08PM EST old timer No...he's too handsome... 214 Sun, Nov 24, 3:11PM EST old timer But seriously folk...how many times have any of us in here prayed for a situation like that to happen ?.... " Can anyone here play bass ?".... 215 Sun, Nov 24, 9:40PM EST bass1 Whats up fellow bass friends, has skiiball, ojeb, #9 posted here in a while. Hope everyone has a great holiday season. 216 Sun, Nov 24, 10:57PM EST Luchesi de KoRoNa Question for all you six string bassists: Who do you think is better on the six-stringer, John Myung from Dream Theater, or Lesly Claypool from Primus? 217 Sun, Nov 24, 11:41PM EST I don't know that I'd call either of them a bass player in the more standard sense of the word.@ least Myung can play in tune though---even if he's not my cup of tea 218 Mon, Nov 25, 9:54AM EST Peruman To be honest, I don't see the point in using a six string if the four stringers still beat the hell out of you. I used to play a four string tuned BEAD for a while, but I decided that I should first play the "regular bass" decently. And I've been playing for 16 years, it's not that I play that bad. I recently started out on the fretless and I'm having a hard time with that. Well, seems I've wandered a litlle bit, Between Myung and Claypool I stick with Myung. HOWEVER, as I said, listen to "Perfect Stangers" by Deep Purple and Dream Teather, you will hear how Myung is a poor carbon copy of Glover. 219 Mon, Nov 25, 10:02AM EST anonymous 220 Mon, Nov 25, 11:01AM EST crimins I would prefer a comparison of Patitucci and Alphonso Johnson on 6-string rather that Myung and Claypool. 221 Mon, Nov 25, 11:09AM EST AzBug Anthony Jackson? Steve Bailey (well, kinda)? Jimmy Haslip? 222 Mon, Nov 25, 11:39AM EST Peruman Steve Bailey scared me to death on that Bass extremes video. I bought it because I like Wooten very much, and was unaware of Steve. Well, in my opinion, Steve is light-years ahead of Victor. Anthony Jackson is a player that I am STILL unaware of. Of course I have heard of him, but haven't listened to any of the albums that he played on. Can anyone recommend me a good one ( Closer to rock, if there is one )? I didn't like what I checked out from Haslip. A friend showed me some tapes from yellowjackets and I really did not dig it. Maybe it was the wrong ones? Patitucci is a player that I love very much. He's very versatile and a very good acoustic player, too. But what I enjoy most on him is to see his funny face when he is playing. He really gets into the music. 223 Mon, Nov 25, 11:39AM EST Peruman Steve Bailey scared me to death on that Bass extremes video. I bought it because I like Wooten very much, and was unaware of Steve. Well, in my opinion, Steve is light-years ahead of Victor. Anthony Jackson is a player that I am STILL unaware of. Of course I have heard of him, but haven't listened to any of the albums that he played on. Can anyone recommend me a good one ( Closer to rock, if there is one )? I didn't like what I checked out from Haslip. A friend showed me some tapes from yellowjackets and I really did not dig it. Maybe it was the wrong ones? Patitucci is a player that I love very much. He's very versatile and a very good acoustic player, too. But what I enjoy most on him is to see his funny face when he is playing. He really gets into the music. 224 Mon, Nov 25, 11:39AM EST Peruman Sorry for the double post. 225 Mon, Nov 25, 12:04AM EST AzBug Anthony Jackson played with a lot of the Berklee grads. About the best example I can think of for you to listen is Al Dimeola's Casino album. Circa; mid-70's. Marco Mendoza is another good fretless 6 player. 226 Mon, Nov 25, 12:51AM EST Bass Bitch mmmmmm all this talk of Patitucci is REALLY making me wanna buy his 6 string bass. The shit woood colour puts me off though. Wood and dark colours just look shitty on stage. That is why my graphite-neck clover is standing in the corner. Does any-one know if they do bright blues or reds with mother-of-pearl lettering? I know that the sound is the most important, but my shows the visual stuff is important too. My drummer did his solo, and I came running on stage and whipped his cymbals with a cat nine tails whip. It was cool, but unfortunately he couldn`t play any further `cause he was laughing so hard. An old perv in a raincoat came to me after the concert and offered me 100 Swiss francs to whip his arse. The moral of the story is: be creative in preparing your shows, but the best things come spontaniously. AND: be aware that it could back-fire. (and no I didn`t whip an old dudes arse-hole before you ask) 227 Mon, Nov 25, 12:52AM EST Bass Bitch Azbug, I just saw you post- the drummer who I was just talking about is also a Berklee grad. I bet not even a Berklee diploa can prepare you for a gig with me. LOL 228 Mon, Nov 25, 1:45PM EST crimins Az > yeah, them too. Peruman > check out Haslip's two solo CDs - Arc & Red Heat. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. He really breaks out of the "group" mode he's in while playing with the Yellowjackets. 229 Mon, Nov 25, 3:10PM EST MoosBros BassBitch,, the Yamaha TRB6P(Patitucci Model) was offered originally in three colors I think.... I have the see-thru Teal Blue,,, it was also offerd in a translucent RED, and an Amber(rare as hens teeth) finish as well... I haven't played one of the newer ones .... they aren't even neck-thru anymore....more like a souped up TRB bolt-on..... as I had mentioned in an earlier post,, the older TRBp models are highly under-rated basses.... they play well,, AND sound great... 230 Mon, Nov 25, 3:15PM EST MoosBros this is a nice Yammie bolt-on.... button 231 Mon, Nov 25, 3:17PM EST MoosBros this is the new bolt-on TRB model.... not even in the smae league as the original model...button 232 Mon, Nov 25, 5:17PM EST AzBug Bass Bitch: Is there such thing as being prepared for a gig with you? :-) All Yamaha basses are just too big and clumsy for me. The Pattitucci and TRB's are about the best feel in my experience, yet still big, and clunky. The body is almost as big as you would expect a neck-thru' to be. Wake up amd smell the coffee; Get a Lakland and let it teach you how to play the bass. Lakin will make one for you in colors even YOU would be embarrassed to strap on for stage. *LOL* 233 Tue, Nov 26, 1:00AM EST RuSep any opinions on Englehardt basses, ES1 and ES9, I'm in the market for a bass and need some input 234 Tue, Nov 26, 2:05PM EST Bass Bitch AZBUB- did you say "strap-on"? ........ now there is a thought. ROTFLMFAO 235 Tue, Nov 26, 4:07PM EST Soo E Soss Hi there everyone its been over a year, I use to chat here all the time. Anyone chat with Big G lately? 236 Tue, Nov 26, 4:10PM EST Soo E Soss See ya ! 237 Tue, Nov 26, 7:03PM EST been around Have been playing for years, really don't know where to head with the bass, band broke up year ago, just been floundering but can play decently, any thoughts? 238 Tue, Nov 26, 7:47PM EST anonymous For you or the bass? 239 Tue, Nov 26, 11:22PM EST JimJamb2277 Hello been . This is a great post site if you have some patience,most any question you post will gleen a response .For me,when not working with several bands at once (The lull,ebb,...rest ect..)Listen to any music,if yer right handed,flip the axe over and attempt to play left handed!STRANGE Ain't it ! Later James Savannah ga. P.S. i'm giging with an old friend (Greg Williams.com )next gig in S.C.Dec.14th 240 Wed, Nov 27, 7:21AM EST Andi if you are into italian music, check out Jovanotti with the monster player SATURNINO, he plays like he sounds, like from outer space. woooooow!! ciao mama, guarda come mi diverto! The thing with the musicians is: everyone tries to be a little bit of a Hendrix, instead of trying to be a unique player. Duck Dunn forever! 241 Wed, Nov 27, 7:56AM EST crimins Let's see ... Italian, outer space, Hendrix, Duck Dunn. Andi, you're all over the map. I've got to admit, Hendrix and Duck Dunn are at opposite ends of the spectrum. 242 Wed, Nov 27, 8:51AM EST big g Soo E Soss...great to see you back here! I think its been a couple years. Still got the band? 243 Wed, Nov 27, 9:44AM EST JohnnieA Ya'll have a wonderful Thanksgiving tomorrow! 244 Wed, Nov 27, 9:56AM EST JimJamb2277, where in SC? What kinds of music do you play? Most of my gigs are around Aiken, Beaufort, Edisto Beach, Augusta Ga. 245 Wed, Nov 27, 2:49PM EST Bass Bitch The player from jovanotti is cool, I just wish the singer would stop trying to speak Swiss-German on gigs. Either you can or you can`t -there isn`t much in-between, And this dude can`t. 246 Wed, Nov 27, 11:14PM EST Mr.Bass been around> See if maybe you can go to an open mic night in your area and meet some new players, check musicians wanted in the local music paper. SOS> I think you were here long before me, dont recognize your SN, but welcome back. To all the regs, have a great Thanksgiving, and be safe out there. 247 Thu, Nov 28, 4:24AM EST Andi gruezi, bass bitch, bisch du epperts schun amal in der schw z gsi? :-)I'm not Swiss, but I like the language, sounds like chewing Sp tzle all the time. Yeah, crimins, duck dunn is really cool, don't you think. She caught the Katy is one of the best bass lines I know. and a monster tone! greetings, Andi 248 Thu, Nov 28, 10:44AM EST MoosBros Yes indeed,,, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone........ 249 Thu, Nov 28, 11:00AM EST big g Let me guess what everyone's lunch menu will be for the next week??...Ummmmm Turkey Samich? Happy Thanksgiving to all the defenders of the deep..... 250 Thu, Nov 28, 11:08AM EST Bass Bitch greuzi Andi - ja i wohne ja da weisch. isch ganz e gueti sach 251 Fri, Nov 29, 0:17AM EST anonymous spk....I'm J.F.Mills,Live in Savannah,Ga.Been giging since 1980.I play Jazz, rock,& R&B....You my Know Teddy Adams, or Bill Barnwell(Frogmore S.C.)The gig on Dec 14th is at Ollies In Beaufort S.C.(Original Rock)What type of Gigs do you do ? spk...? Happy Thanksgiving To all! 252 Fri, Nov 29, 3:14AM EST casanova What is this thing between (male) bassists and (female) vocalist? Ray Brown was married to Ella Fitzgerald, Joni Mitchell to Larry Klein. Monica Zetterlund (svedish) was married to three different bassists (not at the same time but...) etc. 253 Fri, Nov 29, 7:51AM EST MoosBros well,, speaking as a bassist,, all I can say is that I do it DEEP, and with RHYTHM..... I guess that's something most women can appreciate.......hehe 254 Fri, Nov 29, 9:51AM EST big g cas>I think its because we bassists take a supportive role. 255 Fri, Nov 29, 11:58AM EST Bass Bitch .............yeah, and it is hard to find a good bass-player. iF YOU ARE MARRIED TO ONE, THEN ALL IS WELL. 256 Fri, Nov 29, 3:29PM EST JimJamb... Sorry, I don't know those guys. I have played at Ollies, and Luthers too. We do originals and covers, mostly rock and R&B. Our guitarist plays down in Beaufort quite often as a solo gig, he recently played at Hemingways. You may have heard of him, Keith Gregory, he was with James Brown's band for a few years. We mostly play around Augusta. 257 Sat, Nov 30, 0:20AM EST Get Real I really don't see the point in a six string bass, you may as well play guitar, and I would bet that a lot of six string bass players were guitar players at one time or another. 258 Sat, Nov 30, 3:48AM EST Bass Bitch yeah get real- or maybe they just want more range and tonal colour. YOU GET REAL- anyways there are enough guys trying unsucessfully to play guitar out there. 259 Sat, Nov 30, 11:12AM EST Jim Jamb Big G....That is correct ,but a rather one dimensional response.This is my first and I pray my only marriage.My wife , for the most part a self-taught/good ear/bell tone (clear pitched)Rock/R&B,Show tunes ...Experianced FEMALE vocalist.We met in Macon Ga. At Paul Hornsby's ( Muscadine )Recording Studio in 1989.I was Auditioning[ my,First-ever REAL rock band audit.], for his local band ,Coupe De Ville.While running Steely Dan's "Reelin in the years", Scared shitless,I opned my eyes And there was Ricki Lee,(Now My wife of 7 yrs) in the control room.Her smile let me know I had the gig!Waxing a bit much eh guys?Anyway ,As a fairly well read, jazz schooled electric bassist I have,along with my wife and a percussionist and horn player, brought down the house.Therefore from experience the BASS/Vocalist relationship is natural. You Have Melody/lyric;Chord Root;AndPulse/Meter That is a song! Multi-dimensional. 260 Sat, Nov 30, 6:37PM EST bass learner how do you play 10ths 261 Sun, Dec 1, 1:05AM EST There are some who call me... Tim. Uh... okay, am I the only guy here who really isn't all that impressed with Steve Bailey's bass work? I mean, everyone speaks of him like "The Great Steve Bailey", but when I heard him I was like, "... that was it?" 262 Sun, Dec 1, 10:43AM EST Bass Bitch mmmmmm, there are some people who just complain about others, with-out ever trying to do shit themselves. Are you one of those people Tim? 263 Sun, Dec 1, 12:33AM EST anonymous bass learner , are you talking about outdoor 10ths , wait till summertime ! And Tim , its all to do with opinions , everyone's got one . Pretty simple huh ? 264 Sun, Dec 1, 12:33AM EST anonymous1000 Oh , that was me above ! 265 Sun, Dec 1, 12:33AM EST crimins Well, GET REAL, I used to play g***R back about 35 years ago, and have owned one off and on over the years, but don't own one now. If your post infers that any 6-string bass-player has a secret desire to be a g****r player, then I agree with BB - GET REAL. Consider the tuning - 6-string bass = BEADGC, g****r = EADGBE. Not the same is it? 266 Sun, Dec 1, 1:19PM EST There are some who call me... Tim To Bass Bitch: No, I'm not one of those. I picked up my bass guitar and played that solo without looking. To Anonymous1000: I agree: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And I'm not insulting Steve Bailey, I think he's a good bass player, but from all the great things I've heard about him I guess I was just expecting more. 267 Sun, Dec 1, 1:48PM EST big g I got to see Wooten and Bailey doing an Ampeg clinic. Next to Vic, Steve seemed lacking, but still a very good bassist who shows his devotion to Jaco. I don't have any Albums with Bailey, but then, I don't have any Wooten albums either. I know one of our own bass chat regulars gave Vic a custom bass (thinking he might get an endorsement)and will never do that again. Also before I had the chance to see Steve, I had heard the opposite, that he was a wanker. I thought he was a lot better than that. 268 Sun, Dec 1, 2:16PM EST There are some who call me... Tim Vic's a good bass player, but he too is overrated in my opinion. And out of curiosity, does anyone here play a K5 Ibanez? 269 Sun, Dec 1, 3:43PM EST AzBug Tim: It's cool. I used to be like you, then I realized that we, as musicians, need to respect the fact that anybody who has devoted the time, energy, and talent to get as good as these guys are. I feel you need to have respect for that, regardless if you like their tunes, style, note selection, etc. I have one of Bailey's solo CD's that was only released in Japan. It's unlike any of the other playing you hear from him. The Wooten/Bailey duet stuff is mostly open jamming. When he's playing his own compositions he's pretty much on it. Great player with some of the best fretless intonation I've heard. Victor is a GREAT Bass player, bottom line. Again, you don't have to like his style and all that, but the dude has spent countless hours mastering his own style. 270 Sun, Dec 1, 6:40PM EST Get Real crimins;;; you made my argument for me, you by your own admission USED to be a guitar player...that was my point, a lot of SIX string bass players I know personally USED to play guitar, NOT all of course but more than not. Bass Bitch you have an appropiate moniker for your comments keep up the bitchiness. 271 Sun, Dec 1, 7:30PM EST MoosBros Is there a problem with being a multi-instrumentalist? What IS your point? I have been a working bassist for some 30 years, but I can STILL wank a guitar better than most guitarists I've heard....and now I play drums.... harp, banjo, mandolin....as far as playing guitar OR bass goes,, they are TWO completely different instruments,,, and multi-string basses are like big drum kits,, they give you more colors to choose from,, and make certain things a little eaiser to present... just tools for the job buddy,,, you oughtta try it sometimes,, you know,, WORKING as a musician in a variety of contexts... 272 Sun, Dec 1, 9:06PM EST Get Real Moos....you can still WANK a guitar better than most guitarists that means you were a guitarist first..this is getting easier by the minute. Point taken. 273 Sun, Dec 1, 9:34PM EST anonymous what point? the point is,, Bass and Guitar are two totally different stringed instruments,, and each require a different mindset to be correctly played,,,I can play a 6 string bass as solidly as I can a 4 stringer, or an URB,,, but for certain things,, the 6 will be either easier to play,, or just flat out give me more choices,in the proper context of course,,, but all in all,, it's about a solid groove and tateful , musical choices... I've auditioned hundreds of guitarists, bassists, drummers,,,and the same one rule applies to ALL,,, ANY instrument,, 99% of the guys out there have an instrument and NO CLUE on WHAT TO PLAY,,,or when to play,, and MOST importantly,, when NOT to play... it takes years to understand that the best approach to music that works best in ANY group is to know exactly what to NOT PLAY... I've got no time or patience for wet behind the ears wankers,,,, Even Victor Wooten provides the pocket, first and foremost,, otherwise,, none of us would have ever heard of him in the first place..... asking the question you ask is not a lot different than the chicken or the egg bullshit,,, who cares?? 274 Sun, Dec 1, 11:46PM EST There are some who call me... Tim Still people don't understand what I'm getting at... I'll say it ONE MORE TIME: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I hold these guys, Steve Bailey and Wooten, in the highest respect. It's just that I was lead to believe they were more than they were when I actually heard them. 275 Sun, Dec 1, 11:50PM EST There are some who call me... Tim As for the K5 Ibanez thing... I'm getting a bass guitar made for me. It's made like the K5 Ibanez, only it's a six stringer and it's fretless. I don't know how it's gonna sound... but it's something to experiment with. If it turns out good, is anyone interested in buying one? If so, I'll see if I can give you the address of this guy who's making it. 276 Mon, Dec 2, 4:44AM EST Bass Bitch an a bass like an ibanez? mmmmmmm ibanez guitars are cool for rock and heavy shit-but basses? It is like the Godin guitars-real cool, but they are still trying to figure the bass side of things out. I would suggest that you go back to special ed classes Tim. 277 Mon, Dec 2, 7:30AM EST There are some who call me... Tim Bass Bitch: Now I see where you got your name, SHEESH!!! As for the Ibanez bass thing: there is a big difference between a K5 Ibanez and any other Ibanez bass guitar. In fact, there's a big difference between a K5 and ANY bass guitar. The K5 can be tuned extra low... like you said, Bass Bitch, heavy. It's practically a different instrument. So whatever it is you have against Ibanez bass guitars, don't even take it into consideration with the K5, because NO OTHER BRAND is doing anything like it. And the guy making my bass guitar doesn't work for Ibanez: he works independantly. It's a local thing. 278 Mon, Dec 2, 8:27AM EST Peruman Tim> May I ask who do you think "the greatest bass player" is? 279 Mon, Dec 2, 10:09AM EST crimins Well, I'll say this, Tim and Get Real have stirred things up in here. It was real quiet here for quite some time. 280 Mon, Dec 2, 2:45PM EST Bass Bitch TIM: let me put it another way. Any bass player worth his/her salt wouldn`t even look at an Ibanez bass. If saw saw one laying on the pavement, I would walk past with-out picking it up. And you say "extra low" - well if you fuck around with frequency, then don`t expect much tonal quality- get extra thick strings and some bartolini pick-ups. I reckon what is to be done with basses has already been done. I guess we could talk about the MIDI thing now. LOL 281 Mon, Dec 2, 2:53PM EST crimins BB > well, are you saying Gary willis is not worth his salt? He plays Ibanez. 282 Mon, Dec 2, 5:02PM EST MoosBros I've been playing a Ken Smith Custom 5 for a prety good while,, and even it's not considered a "boutique" high end bass anymore these days.... go figure? 283 Mon, Dec 2, 5:27PM EST anonymous1000 Oh Oh...here comes that brand loyalty thing again....Fear , tell us about Carvin one more time...fear the mojo ! 284 Mon, Dec 2, 6:11PM EST Mr.Bass I guess I am caught right in the middle here, I use a five @ times, but recently have been going back to the 4. I think you should use what ever instrument it takes to get your idea out or evoke an emotion or just have a great time playing, it's all music right? 4, 5, 6, or 22 string, they are only vehicles for what we want to express as musician's..Ok I will get off my soap box now. crimins was right it did stir up some s#$t. 285 Mon, Dec 2, 6:31PM EST Luther Heck, if I saw an Ibanez laying the street I'd trade it in...might even get some bass strings for it, LOL. Crimins, the Gary Willis model Ibanez is quite nice and priced to sell. Of course his personal bass is nothing like the production models. Mr.Bass, I'm playing at the Deacon's Den in Mt. Snow, VT Dec. 13-14 if you're planning on doing some skiing that weekend. It's just a hop, skip and a jump from your neck of the woods. I hear they have some decent conditions already. Fear, I picked up a Carvin 6-string a while back. You were right about them!!! OT has no loyalties to any brand...he owns one or two of every kind made, LOL. 286 Mon, Dec 2, 6:56PM EST big g 1 string Woogie Fritzmier 2 string the bloke with the presidents of the usa 3 string Tony Levin 4 string James Jamerson 5 string me and mr. bass 6 string Tim Bogart 7 string Bill the budha Dickens 8 string 8 Tom Hamilton 9 string etc etc etc whatever floats your boat. Tim I will make a point of checking out the K5, sounds like it floats yours. Now where is that Ibanez site?? 287 Mon, Dec 2, 7:04PM EST AzBug Mr.Bass: As usual, you are always the one that comes in when we are all ranting and raving, and you make that one, level-headed comment that SHOULD get everybody back on track. As far as I'm concerned, you can stay upon the soapbox all you'd like! :-) .... Luther; According to Willis, his Bass is 'Off The Shelf'. He stated that at the clinic, and again during my lesson with him. The only thing he does is tweak the neck to get rid of dead spots. That's what the man says. I guess it's up to us whether to believe him, or not. He actually found and fixed a dead spot on my Roscoe during my lesson with him. Thought that was pretty cool. 288 Mon, Dec 2, 7:05PM EST AzBug You too, g! 289 Mon, Dec 2, 7:12PM EST I chased down the info on the K5. I found it interesting that at their website instead of referencing the model # you have to follow the Fieldy link. ROTFL button 290 Mon, Dec 2, 7:40PM EST There are some who call me... Tim Peruman: My opinion of the best bass player? When you get as good as a lot of the bass players out there, it doesn't come down to who's the best, it comes down to who you prefer. <<<<< Bass Bitch: The solution your picking for an extra low sound is like the good ol' "two cans and a strand of yarn" excuse for a telephone. If you don't like Ibanez bass guitars, DON'T PLAY THEM for christs sake. SOME people find use for them. Hell, I own a four-string Fender, a six string Yamaha, and a K5 Ibanez. As far as I can tell, every brand is good for something. So when Yamaha comes out with a K5, then I'll ditch the Ibanez, but for now I'm sticking with it. ANYWAYS!! That's beside the point. The point was this fretless six-string K5-like bass guitar I'm having made for me. Anyone interested? And Bass Bitch, this isn't beind made by a name brand, so I don't wanna hear your Bass Bitching. 291 Mon, Dec 2, 7:59PM EST There are some who call me... Tim Oh, and Peruman: I know who the best bass player is. It's Bob Saget. You know... the guy from Full House? The guy who hosted America's Funniest Home Videos? The guy is one Shpadoinkal bass player. 292 Mon, Dec 2, 8:35PM EST changes canonymous Are there any Modulus Quantum fans out there? 293 Mon, Dec 2, 10:14PM EST Peruman Tim> That's why he has a lot of "bassless" jobs,huh? but I agree with you, I don't think there is one guy out there who is the best player. I have a lot of favourites, however. We were talking about Vic Wooten and Steve Bailey. Well, In my opinion, Wooten's "Show of hands" is THE MOST BORING bass cd EVER! But he is still one of my favourites. 294 Mon, Dec 2, 11:04PM EST There are some who call me... Tim Peruman: For slap work, I kind of enjoy Flea from Red Hot Chille Peppers. For finger work, I really liked John Entwistle from The Who: he really had Thunderfingers. It's a shame Entwistle died a few months ago. But who's the best? I'll never know. No one ever really will. 295 Tue, Dec 3, 5:57AM EST Bass Bitch the ibanez willis own will never be on sale to mere mortals- his is special. I stand by my opinion right ir wrong. And Tim, flea is a cool player, not many would dispute that- but he ofetn fucks- up on live shows, and plays a whole load of wrong notes. Gifted but not concentrated? 296 Tue, Dec 3, 7:18AM EST MoosBros "gifted, but not concentrated"...... now that describes a LOT of musicians I know,,,, LOL 297 Tue, Dec 3, 7:50AM EST There are some who call me... Tim Bass Bitch: I didn't say he was one of the best, I just said I've taken a liking to his slap-work.------The thing about bass guitars is that there's so many ways you can play them, you can't really compare a lot of bass players because they're doing something COMPLETELY different. This was why Lesly Claypool didn't make it into Metallica after Cliff Burton died: he was too different. It's comparing apples and oranges. 298 Tue, Dec 3, 8:07AM EST Bass Bitch actually I have to see that I don`t fall into that catagory- I think about sex alot when I am on stage- especially if I am standing too close to my massive stack and the bass makes my pussy piercings vibrate. Who wants to see the pictures of a backstage party? *EG* The bitch has wild parties................ and a good collection of underwear thrown onstage. :-) Now that lightened the mood in here didn`t it? LOL 299 Tue, Dec 3, 8:08AM EST Bass Bitch check out manaprime.ch I am writing shit for their upcomming cd 300 Tue, Dec 3, 11:03AM EST aaannnnoooonnnn OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I hate pussy piercings! All they do is get in the way. It's like biting into your fish and getting a bone. 301 Tue, Dec 3, 12:24AM EST anonymous DISGUSTING BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 302 Tue, Dec 3, 2:45PM EST old timer This conversation went south in a hurry...Tim , you forgot to mention 2 pioneers on Bass , Derek Smalls and of course , the father of all things Bass , Al Gore ! BB , thats what you call lightening the mood ? 303 Tue, Dec 3, 2:58PM EST crimins OT > like you said: the mood went south. 304 Tue, Dec 3, 3:31PM EST crimins OK. I'm outta this conversation. 305 Tue, Dec 3, 4:22PM EST MoosBros I think about sex all the time too,,, whether I'm playin or not.... here lately,, the gigs have been a little thin....Columbia isn't exactly the blues mecca of the south... 306 Tue, Dec 3, 5:09PM EST AzBug Ummm, yes, so, carrying on; I agree that we each need to do what it is that we feel like doing with our Basses. Slap them, pluck them, bow them, 3-4-5-6-7....N strings, whatever. Doing anything else is not less than plagiarism! :-) 307 Tue, Dec 3, 5:25PM EST There are some who call me... Tim ... wow... 308 Tue, Dec 3, 6:59PM EST There are some who call me... Tim We can NEVER forget the true god of the bass guitar: George Clooney. George Clooney, we salute you! 309 Tue, Dec 3, 9:24PM EST Peruman Maybe you have some kind of kinky inspiration when you see George Clooney... And my favourite bass inspiration who is not a bass player is..... AL BUNDY! 310 Tue, Dec 3, 9:37PM EST anonymous If you are near any Mars Music stores you might be able tpo pick up a new Roland Bass synth cheap>> 311 Tue, Dec 3, 10:03PM EST Jim Jamb H E L L O old timer!Where ya been?Hey guys ,Sorry 'Bout the last long winded post,Check out GregWilliams.com 312 Wed, Dec 4, 7:18AM EST crimins Anon > if MARS in Orlando is any indication of the rest of them, all that's left is junk. All the good stuff went in the first two weeks of the liquidation. 313 Wed, Dec 4, 7:35AM EST Bass Bitch well maybe it is true what they say about American people being prude, and uptight. And about piercings, yeah they can get in the way, it depends where you have them- so you don`t know what you are doing if you let them disturb you fun- you must be about 15 and very inexperianced. As for disgusting? well maybe. With time you will learn that sex is something that us adults do. Keep on jerking off to playboy loser. Have a nice day every-one. 314 Wed, Dec 4, 8:22AM EST MoosBros I thought everyone buys Playboy for their articles? 315 Wed, Dec 4, 9:31AM EST mostly anon Playboy has articles? 316 Wed, Dec 4, 10:07AM EST Hey everybody, this is a BASS chat, not a base-instinct chat. 317 Wed, Dec 4, 10:28AM EST Bass Bitch LOL- yeah guys this IS a bass chat. Sorry for going off the beaten path. Da Bitch will be nice to all from now on. Even *gulp* Ibanez lovers. 318 Wed, Dec 4, 11:09AM EST AzBug BB: Yeah, I agree that we need to keep this as a Bass-oriented chat. I'm sure there are those that would love to share your experiences on a private line! That being said; Now, being nice and good to Ibanez lovers?!?!? That is simply pushing it too, TOO far! *LOL* To the dude who's friend is building him a Bass; So, he's using an Ibanez as a guideline? That means he's copying a copy??? :-) 319 Wed, Dec 4, 11:57AM EST Bass Bitch yeah dude, I hear you. But would talking about g-strings be o.k? *wink* 320 Wed, Dec 4, 12:50AM EST AzBug Well, I don't see why not? g- what kinda strings you use? :) 321 Wed, Dec 4, 1:40PM EST anonymous Two words for you bass bitch: PROBABLY FAT! 322 Wed, Dec 4, 3:48PM EST Bass Bitch I use custom-made strings from England. Fat? Well if you call 2 hours in the gym nearly everyday fat- then yeah I`m far. LOL 323 Wed, Dec 4, 3:49PM EST Bass Bitch fat even 324 Wed, Dec 4, 5:14PM EST There are some who call me... Tim AzBug: No, he's not a copying Ibanez, but his building plan is similar to the one that Ibanez used for the K5. Ultimately it'll be a fretless six string bass guitar made to play the same notes as the K5... save for the sixth string of course. 325 Wed, Dec 4, 5:16PM EST There are some who call me... Tim And Bass Bitch: Americans are up-tight? What country are YOU from? 326 Wed, Dec 4, 5:33PM EST MoosBros WHo ever it is talking fat,,, if they're from the USA, then there's a 75% chance that they TOO , are FAT....America the OBESE.... BUt,, it DOES give me a nice place to sit my bass when I play... 327 Wed, Dec 4, 6:34PM EST big g " g- what kinda strings you use? :)" drum roll.....why big of course. ;o) Anon> I've seen BB. She is definately not fat. MoosBros " BUt,, it DOES give me a nice place to sit my bass when I play... " And you never have to worry about belt buckle rash. ROTFL 328 Wed, Dec 4, 6:43PM EST old timer big g...is that sarcasm I detect...Good one ! Tim , watch out for the Bitch...she has a way of getting your ' hair to stand up ' ! 329 Wed, Dec 4, 8:26PM EST anonymous BASS WHORE> 2 hours in the gym? Lady looks like a dude! 330 Wed, Dec 4, 8:38PM EST AzBug Whoa, whoa, whoa! Lighten up, man. We're moving on here... 331 Wed, Dec 4, 8:56PM EST There are some who call me... Tim JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE!! Knock it off with the insults, huh? It's pointless. We don't even j=|_|[|> welcome to the chat its great to have you here. I've been lucky enough to meet face to face with at least 5 others who post here and corresponded with many more. All have been very nice people who show their dedication to all things BASS related. Great to have you here. 335 Wed, Dec 4, 9:59PM EST big g Moos> You mean BB had a hat on in that photo? 336 Wed, Dec 4, 11:26PM EST MoosBros yeah,, the HAT was really hard to see.... 337 Thu, Dec 5, 5:11AM EST Bass Bitch LOL oh my God. It`s funny about that hat- after nearly 2 years it is still the topic of conversation. I also have a pic were I am wearing a SEALS uniform, if any-one would like to see it. :-) And "dude just like a lady"?- well that depends too on what kind of training you do. If I would do weights- then yeah- but it is mostly aerobic training- wANNA GO RUNNING WITH ME? YOu`ll fade before I would loser. Tim: I am english, but live in Switzerland. 338 Thu, Dec 5, 7:55AM EST There are some who call me... Tim Bass Bitch: Ah. I'm half-Filipino, FROM the phillipines, and I live in America. 339 Thu, Dec 5, 7:59AM EST The are some who call me... Tim Oh, and as for the whole insult thing. I don't think it's a matter of being one big happy bass playing family, rather than it being a matter of just GROWING THE F*CK UP. 340 Thu, Dec 5, 8:53AM EST Bass Bitch I see. The Phillipines is a nice place to visit. I was gigging in New York too- also an unusual place- to visit. Don`t be upset by comments Tim, as a musician you have to learn to have a thick skin. Dissapointment and putting alot of energy into projects- only to find that they don`t turn out how you want- is all part of the job. Back-stabbing too is an all too often occurance. You`ll meet alot of extrovert people on your travels. Also people who are introvert, and only know how to express themselves through playing an instrument. And musicians are known for being `special`. 341 Thu, Dec 5, 9:09AM EST MoosBros THis is true,,, "special" is a two-edged sword... don't fit into the "day job" scene.. and full time gigging is a roller-coasterlife of misery and elation.... kind of like sex,, what goes up,, must come down.... but it's fun while it lasts.... 342 Thu, Dec 5, 12:22AM EST Bass Bitch I don`t have a day job, I live from playing bass and songwriting. IT is cool being freelance- but you have to learn to "Play the game" -since I have been doing this, I have been successful. 343 Thu, Dec 5, 5:03PM EST There are some who call me... Tim After I moved out of Quezon City, I started gigging all around in Thailand for about six months. My favorite place was the island of Ko Phi-Phi Don. Then I got out of there and started playing in Taiwan. Finally I came here to the USA. It wasn't long before I auditioned for a band and made it in. Now we're gigging just about wherever we can. 344 Fri, Dec 6, 4:39AM EST Bass Bitch some-one told me the best job, but at the same time the worst- is being a bass-player on a cruise ship. I wouldn`t say no though. 345 Fri, Dec 6, 7:17AM EST There are some who call me... Tim. Taking a job on a cruise ship wouldn't be the challenge for me... it would be getting accepted. No one would want my kind bass work on a "relaxing cruise in the Carribean". 346 Fri, Dec 6, 7:51AM EST big g I went to the big city (Sacramento) yesterday and stopped in at GC. I must say for the budget minded that the OLP 5 string seemed to be a very good instrument. For $249 it played very well considering the not so great GC setup. I thought the electronics might use some improvement, but for an old hotroder like me, it would be no big thing. Anybody else tried one? I also tried the new ultra small ampeg amp it gets loud for its size, but not my cup of tea. About $1100 for amp and cab, I think you could spend that amount of money and do much better. I actually like my Workingman 300 with Carvin 2-10 much better (my light and portable rig). Total for that setup was under $600. Anyone else tried the new ampeg? 347 Fri, Dec 6, 8:05AM EST anonymous www.ampeg.com/wwwpage.html 348 Fri, Dec 6, 8:06AM EST anonymous button 349 Fri, Dec 6, 8:07AM EST anonymous button 350 Fri, Dec 6, 8:08AM EST anonymous button 351 Fri, Dec 6, 8:08AM EST anonymous button 352 Fri, Dec 6, 8:22AM EST MoosBros I've seen the new AMpeg stuff,, but I haven't had a chance to play thru it. I'm still using the Ampeg B15R whan I want tubes,, and the SWR Electric Blue for "go light"..... 353 Fri, Dec 6, 8:25AM EST MoosBros I just recently traded away the SWR Bass 350 and a '52 Tele to get a Clark Amplification Piedmont tube guitar amp... so now,, for the bigger shows,, I'll use the Electric Blue to drive the rack set-up. It makes a cool , portable rig just with the Hartke 210XL. 354 Fri, Dec 6, 8:55AM EST big g Forgot to mention the salesman said that Ampeg is coming out with an 800 watt version of this head also. Finally someone is trying to compete with Walter Woods? 355 Fri, Dec 6, 11:10PM EST MoosBros I have an 800 watt amp(SWR) in my rack rig,, but I don't think I've used it hardly twice in the last two years..usually, the 100 watt tube amp is plenty, and with solid pro monitors on the better shows, even the 120 watt Electric Blue has plenty enough to do the gigs.. the new Ampeg stuff sure is small and light though... I'm looking to see how the new wave N/Dyn magnet speakers is gonna change things.... I know Yorkville, MAckie , and a few others now have several models in regular production... It's just the beginning... 356 Sat, Dec 7, 2:31AM EST Archer Some times I'll call you Tim:Got stuck in Bankok for a few days when the singer got sick (local remedy from pharmacy had all the effects of LSD) and ended up giging at a local club for a bit. Nice people and good players. 357 Sat, Dec 7, 11:22AM EST There are some who call me... Tim Archer: Bankok is a nice place... but it's the hottest city in world. And the pollution is enough to make your eyes sting. The people are friendly though. You're lucky you didn't get stuck in Karabi... we had to stay there for two nights before we got a ferry over to Ko Phi Phi Don, and the people there were REALLY unfriendly. Luckily our drummer stood at 6'4" and was built like a tank, because i swear to god that if he weren't there that someone would have tried to mug us. 358 Sat, Dec 7, 12:34AM EST Bass Bitch Tim, well you know that Bossa Nova stuff is cool to play- but it helps to have a sriff drink before starting the gig 359 Sat, Dec 7, 12:34AM EST Bass Bitch stiff ,even 360 Sat, Dec 7, 3:46PM EST MoosBros I had to give up most of my bad habits,,, in my old age,, I couldn't afford the 'risks" anymore..now I just play a lot, mostly... with myself... 361 Sat, Dec 7, 3:50PM EST Bass Bitch you got that on video? *EG* 362 Sat, Dec 7, 4:16PM EST MoosBros hmmm,, yeah,, I shoulda been an "amature" porno star instead of a musician...probably woulda made more $$$$ hahaha...... What I mean't was, I spend a lot of time down in the rehearsal studio practicing alone,,,,and for quite a few years, I gave up drinking and messing with dope... I had fun, "back in the day" though... now,, it's more just about the music.. it's my life,, but here in Columbia,, the market is very very soft.. 363 Sat, Dec 7, 4:17PM EST MoosBros BB,, you should post a picture of yourself on Flashyourrack dot com... it's an interesting website.... 364 Sat, Dec 7, 4:21PM EST MoosBros a real, "eye opener"... hahaha 365 Sat, Dec 7, 6:47PM EST on that site you can only flash the real McCoy. 366 Sun, Dec 8, 8:35AM EST Bass Bitch It is funny you should say that MOOS BROS- I just took my head to a garage to have a custom spray job done. I has some shit stole, and since then I have everything permanently marked and engraved. and to your post....: don`t you think I have the real McCoy- use your name and stop hiding. LOL 367 Sun, Dec 8, 11:45AM EST Bass It BB... I think you should post a pic, you don't really seem shy, just go for it and show him you have the real McCoy 368 Sun, Dec 8, 11:46AM EST Anyone know of a good bass chat site? 369 Sun, Dec 8, 12:13AM EST Bass Bitch maybe I will- I did pics of my new SWR top and box for the insurance. But now the top is in a cool flight-case, and will have a nice spray-job done, I may even do that. It will have "BITCH" sprayed on it- so yo `ll now it`s really mine. *LOL* 370 Sun, Dec 8, 12:17AM EST MoosBros which SWR top are you now using, BassBitch? you mentioned your Mo Bass got stolen? 371 Sun, Dec 8, 2:48PM EST crimins ...... > What's wrong with this one? 372 Sun, Dec 8, 5:00PM EST MoosBros no name,,, you can try Harmony Central if you want a busier message board,, but,, it's a bit hard to stomach sometimes,,, since there are so many kids hanging out there... 373 Sun, Dec 8, 7:11PM EST The Phillipines! You got to be shittin me, they have the most terrible economic woes in that neck of the woods...what did you get paid in, chickens? 374 Sun, Dec 8, 10:47PM EST There are some who call me... Tim GR: watch what you say buddy. I'm from the Phillipines. 375 Sun, Dec 8, 11:43PM EST The question still stands.... timmy 376 Mon, Dec 9, 2:53AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. I agree w/Big G on the OLP. I've posted praise of them before. $250 for a decent 5-string is cheap, and the neck on the one i played was excellent. Throw a Duncan Basslines pickup in that mullet and you'd have a bitchin' little bass amp cheap. Been off this site giggin' for awhile. Yes the music biz has it's highs and lows. You may remember that I left my last project band after the producer turned into a jerk. Well the music biz is a small world, and two weeks later one of the keyboard players who had been in and out of the last band had joined up w/a new band. Their bassist is a mean drunk, and had had too many one night. He started chewing everyone's ass for missing notes here and there, while he was busy either dropping the beat, or turning it around. I got the call immediately and have been happily gigging ever since. We're up for a big audition next month. Could be graduating back into the $200 a night scene. Please say your prayers. I haven't played that circuit since coming back out of retirement, and would really like to see this band do something. Hell even the gu!%@r player is a human being. Someone pinch me, I must be dreaming. 377 Mon, Dec 9, 2:56AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Bass Amp? I meant Bass- I've got amps on the rain since I will soon be replacing mine. I might look into that new Ampeg only because it need to sound good for Upright and Electric. 378 Mon, Dec 9, 3:01AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. I think that was supposed to be amps on the brain. Oh well, they say that memory and coordination are the first to go. Azbug--help me with some ideas here. Do the Genz Benz regular amps sound good for upright? I know that their Tubeworks Brethren were supposed to be O.K. at it, but the 7200 series is only 130 watts. I need at least 200. I'm thinking about the ML 200 series. I'm not a real big fan of Gallien Kruegers or SWR's, and Acoustic Image is great for Upright, but sucky for electric. Should I just go direct and save my back and money? 379 Mon, Dec 9, 5:22AM EST Bass Bitch MOOS BROS- I got a 750 SWR Pro top. It has a stomp box with a dist, and subwave- I don`t use them though. I wish they would have put 2 other FX on there like reverb, chorus. Oh well I got the shit for free so it don`t matter. GR- even poor countries can have good music and musicians, look at Jamaica. That is the real deal. Look at poor cities in England- some of the best rock bands are from there. 380 Mon, Dec 9, 7:39AM EST MoosBros BassBitch, I had considered the Bass750 myself,, it would actually help me to shed about 20 pounds from my rack, AND have the smae power as befroe, but I've since sold the Bass 350 it would have replaced, and am committed to utilizing the SWR Electric Blue as a preamp to drive the rack... I've never gotten a bad sound out ot the Electric Blue, no matter what bass I used.... BernieB... the Silverado is a bitchin bass amp for electric or URB,, especially if you can one of the originals with the 4x8" speaker configuration... I'be been using an AMPEG B15R lately, but the single 15" cabinet sucks pretty bad.... usually I'll take along an 8x8 cabinet and leave the bottom of the combo home.. I had originally bought it to play URB thru... it looked cool,, but to my ears, never really sounded all that great... 381 Mon, Dec 9, 10:48AM EST AzBug Hey Bernie, congrats on the new gig. I'm "Taking The Leap Of Faith" myself starting at the New Year. Walking away from a $90K corporate job and going with music, full time. PRAY FOR ME!!! *LOL* As for Genz-Benz; I have their little 1x12 Shenandoah acoustic amp. Self contained 90W. I bought it, mainly, for my mandolins, but I had hoped it would be able to work with my URB/EUB's... sadly, even tho' it sounded adequate when I was trying it out, after a good bit of time with it in different situations I found it just can't handle the low fundamentals. Let's put it this way; 'I' can't handle the way it reproduces the low fundamentals! :-) Now, their larger stuff isn't so bad. If I were to be in the market for a stage monitor to replace the Eden, I would most likely get their new 2x10 wedge. Ample power (300W, I think?) and it sounds really decent. I've only played my EUB through one as well as my electrics and it passed the test. I wholeheartedly agree with you that you will need 200, or more Watts to get a bearable tone for your upright. A nice, deep 2x10 or 1x15 cab with response somewhere down around 40Hz wouldn't hurt, either. 382 Mon, Dec 9, 10:56AM EST There are some who call me... Tim GR: The question still stands, but the phrasing DOESN'T. The point is, I sincerely hope you watch your tongue in public, because if you don't then I'm suprised you still HAVE a tongue. 383 Mon, Dec 9, 11:58AM EST JohnnieA AZ> Congrats on your decision to shed the glorious corporate merry go round . I guess if we must chose between one business or another, it should be something we totally enjoy. 90K/yr. job! Gee, I guess I work for the wrong electronics conglomerate. Sounds like the Big was petty fair to you. So, will this new venture take you out of the valley? BTW, what ever happened to that local Blues thing you talked about some time back? Best of luck to you! 384 Mon, Dec 9, 7:06PM EST anonymous Tim> F*CK YOU!!! 385 Mon, Dec 9, 7:55PM EST There are some who call me... Tim Anonymous: What the hell is your problem? Man... if I had a head like yours, I'd probably get it circumcised or something... DICK-HEAD. 386 Mon, Dec 9, 8:58PM EST Tim...I wasn't knocking anyone from the Phillipines, I was just stating a fact that economically they have a lot of problems there. That obscenity wasn't from me. 387 Mon, Dec 9, 10:07PM EST fear s back.A long strange trip its been. When I went to the PI in 78, there were some real good local musicians playing at clubs and playing through some of the most beat up equipment I ever seen, But it sounded good. One can only speculate what they would have done with good gear. 388 Tue, Dec 10, 0:12AM EST Berni B in the P.T. Azbug- You are in my prayers. I left the corporate scene two years ago as you may recall. Left a nice paying heart attack waiting to happen gig on the table. Just in time to dodge this recession too. I've been a much happier person for it, and might've ended up getting layed off from the day gig just in time to miss the opportunities I've caught here lately. If you have enough in the bank to survive six months to a year so that you don't overstress on the financial side, you may have to turn that resignation in tomorrow. Just make sure you have a plan in place (look before you leap kind of stuff) and pray for some divine guidance. I've never been happier, and you'd be amazed how much money you really don't need to survive. MOOSBROS- Thanks for your input as well. I've never been an SWR fan just because of the mid range factor, but I might give them another try. Especially if I do uncover a Silverado 4x8. I've had a couple of buddies try to push me towards the Super Red-Head Combo. 389 Tue, Dec 10, 5:30AM EST Bass Bitch BERNI B. SWR have made alot of improvements in their gear. Try some out before your buy. You`ll be surprised. It is also very reliable. I don`t think I would play anything else at the moment. 390 Tue, Dec 10, 8:32AM EST MoosBros I have been happy with the Blue especially,,, the simple controls with the 3 band pamrametric eq seem very musical... the Bass 350(same pre-amp/amp as the SuperRedHead) and GrandPrix were harder to dial in good tones,, and never seemed quite as warm sounding as the Electric BLue, which was developed originally for the Upright bass... 391 Tue, Dec 10, 8:34AM EST MoosBros I've been a sucker for tubes,, and if I had the bucks, I might try to hunt down a Peavey Classic 400 bass amp or try some of the esoteric stuff from Aguilar.... 392 Tue, Dec 10, 8:36AM EST MoosBros I know a good many dudes who have gone the compact rack route,, using the SansAmp RBI as their preamp. You have infinite choices that way,, but you gotta like the SansAmp for that to work... the BassDriver D/I has been hailed as the best thing since sliced bread... 393 Tue, Dec 10, 10:08AM EST AzBug Bernie: I am in the exact spot you were 2 years ago. Fortunately, the corp. I work for is offering a pretty sweet severance, so with 13+years of dues paid, I am getting a good chunk to survive on. I consider it all answered prayers. Oh, I could kiss a$$ and find another position within the company, but I'm done, man. With the status of corporate America the way it is, I'm just done. I also have a legit music thing in the works. Music ministry, more like. Thanks for the reaffirmation!... Moos: I am one of the herd that has gone over to using that Sansamp D.I. It took a long time to REALLY believe the thing is as good as it is. The only issue I ever have is if the soundtech doesn't send me good signal in the monitor, or if the monitoring system is weak. That's it. Otherwise, that lil' thing is a killer!... Bass Bitch: Dump the SWR stuff! It's a thing of the past. (can't wait to see the egg I've opened with that one! *lol*) 394 Tue, Dec 10, 10:12AM EST AzBug John: Yeah, I can definitely say I benefitted from the Tech Boom of the 90's. Now, we're seeing the results. Moto is pulling out of the Valley. All will be gone in the next 3 years. I am planning on staying here, if I can. Got a whole ton of irons in the fire and really can't justify rolling on at this time. How are things up there at the 'Lovely' place you work at? Thanks for the encouragement! Es Mucho Appreciado! 395 Tue, Dec 10, 11:01AM EST JohnnieA AZ> Well, I have to admit, I am thoroughly disgusted with corporate America and their modus operandi. Within the last five years, our fine executive management has seen fit to our source most of our factory operations to low cost countries i.e. China, India and Mexico. It hasn t worked out very well to say the least, and we have no say in how these brainiacs decide to run the company. All this for for shareholder satisfaction. Seems they have forgotten customer satisfaction. This past year our illustrious CEO has deemed that 40% of engineering functions be farmed out to India. My boss has asked me repeatedly as to which projects I want to ship over there. I say none, but then there s that 40% thing. "catch22" At this point, I have 25 yrs. invested, yet am to young to bail out and scarf any of the retirement bennies. I would have left in a heartbeat if any of my bass designs had clicked. BTW, I still am building the Ergonomic Bass but have abandoned the SSS Bass and Guitar designs, only because they are way too expensive to build. Et al, Please excuse the rant, and lack of bass content. Once again, best of luck to you!! Later 396 Tue, Dec 10, 2:18PM EST Bass Bitch AZBUG - hmmmm. Would you say no if you got thousands of dollars worth of equiptment for free? Be honest??. What is good enough for Marcus bighead Miller is good enough for da bitch. Nice to hear from you again Johnnie A- B Goode won`t you. 397 Tue, Dec 10, 3:37PM EST AzBug You're right. I probably wouldn't turn the stuff down. It's the endorsing I would have a problem with. I have a couple things on the table right now that I am having to decide on. It's not easy. 398 Tue, Dec 10, 3:55PM EST crimins AzBug > congrats on your decision. I wish I had the guts to do that, but having had to deal with the big "C" two years ago (the old-timers here may remember that) I'm faced with constant medical checkups, which require you having that old "inshorunce". Best of luck and blessings to you, however. Remember, when the going gets tough, the tough start pickin'. 399 Tue, Dec 10, 5:24PM EST Skiball Howdie kids! Just thought Id pop in and report Im syill alive! My best to you all. Ill come back soon when I can stay longer. Miss you guys. (and B.B. too of course) 400 Tue, Dec 10, 6:46PM EST old timer To get serious for a moment...I had the chance to try out the new Yamaha Michael Anthony model Bass last night...unbelievable electronics in it . Never seen anything like it... no matter what string you play , no matter where you play on the fretboard...the note comes out as an open E ! Gotta git me one a dem....TFPIC ! 401 Tue, Dec 10, 6:54PM EST old timer Luther , you might understand this , cause the wife dont . I picked up a fretless Corvette Standard 4 , pretty much for a song . For some reason the wife thinks it was stupid ! I told her that for just this one time I would let her ask me any question she wanted and after that to never question me about the bass collection again ! Can you imagine that ? 402 Tue, Dec 10, 7:08PM EST Mr.Bass I have finally done it... I ran out of room! I can not fit one more bass into this house, If I buy one more bass the dog sleeps outside. 403 Tue, Dec 10, 9:00PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Get an Upright. They used to call them doghouses anyways. NYUCK NYUCK. I think certain high end amps are O.K. and I might take a look see at the SWR Baby Blue, but the upright sounds pretty good run direct through the paracoustic D.I.--thanks for the tip Azbug. Marcus has recently been endorsing EBS stuff which is damned good, but exceptionally expensive. B.B.- thanks for the tips. Now a joke for the real old timers here. My group just got a gig at The Castle Arse. 404 Tue, Dec 10, 10:03PM EST jeremy hello! anyone here have any cruise ship experience? 405 Wed, Dec 11, 10:37AM EST Been There Done That Jeremy...despite what some others have said, a cruise ship gig is a great job, you get paid well, free food all day, get to take the tender in to whatever place you are docked to see the sites during the day. You have to play 4 sets most nights and it isn't that easy a gig to land, you should be able to read and be deversified in many styles. Downside is if you are married its difficult on the home front because you can be away for months at a time, need an understanding spouse. 406 Wed, Dec 11, 5:03PM EST Luther OT...nice aquisition! I'm sure that once she asked the questions, you gave her the same type of response Mr. Corleone gave Mrs. Corleone. Luckily, my wife likes to buy me bass gear for x-mas and my b-day. My spare bedroom isn't quite as full as yours, but it might be in a couple of years. Do me a favor if you would, hold onto the "Spoiler Series" for me. It might be on the "to do" list come summertime. Too bad you won't be skiing at Mt. Snow this weekend. They'll be getting plenty of fresh powder. 407 Wed, Dec 11, 5:16PM EST crimins Ski > good to see you back, man. I'm still working in Lake Mary. I've got about another month to go on this project. 408 Wed, Dec 11, 5:23PM EST lowlifer Talking about snow I hope they get some in the sierras before the 22nd. I'll be boarding then. Got comped 2 nights in Reno 12/22-12/23. 409 Thu, Dec 12, 9:18AM EST crimins Skiball > did you get a chance to check out any of the deals at MARS during their close-out? I picked up a nice rack case with wheels at 30% off their regular price. I don't know if they're still open this week, though. 410 Thu, Dec 12, 10:34AM EST big g lowlifer> the storm due this weekend should help your situation. Well gang I got to see the Trans-Siberian Orchestra last night at the Sacramento Auditorium. One heck of a show. For the old timers here, they reminded me of Rick Wakemans Journey to the Center of the Earth Tour. Narrator telling a story with music to embellish. Definately not your standard performance. Excellent light show. Stage washed in smoke. Including the 7 local Sacramento Strings there were 23 people part of the stage performance. The short description would be a Beethoven band with a rock rhythm section throwing in Led Zepplin, ELP, and Golden Earring. The venue was great, all 2000 seats filled. Now the biggest gripe I have about most shows. Although the overall sound was good, the hired string section was barely audible and the damn bass drum was mixed too blanking loud. The bassist was playing a Geddy Jazz and a Jackson and was mostly buried by the bass drum mix. I had no problems hearing the keyboards, guitars and drums, duh. All in all, I would recommend you checking them out, especially if you like classical music. 411 Thu, Dec 12, 5:52PM EST Mr.Bass big g> That sounds like the kind of concert I would love to hear, to bad about the mix but if they ever come to this neck of the woods I will def. check them out, thanks for the review!... Hi Luther!>...man I would dig getting music gear for xmass, but I get everything but that because my wife thinks I can't use any more gear. 412 Fri, Dec 13, 7:31AM EST Luther Mr.Bass...A pal of mine owns a music store locally. I leave a list with him so all my wife has to ask is, "Do you know what he's been looking for?" It's a nice arrangement. My b-day is Jan. 1st so my wife has a second list waiting for here, LOL. Pretty soon I'll probably be in the same boat as you and OT, but I'll enjoy this trip while it lasts. 413 Fri, Dec 13, 10:29AM EST Mr.Bass Luther..I really like that list idea...hey, my wife leaves me a christmas wish list. Whats good for the gander is good for.....LOL 414 Fri, Dec 13, 12:10AM EST crimins Well, you can't have the propa-goose without the propaganda. 415 Fri, Dec 13, 1:07PM EST big g whose only superstition is by Beck Bogart and Appice friday da 13th woooooo..... 416 Fri, Dec 13, 4:01PM EST big g Many times on the net I've heard from other bassists that their favorite bass tone was recorded by Willie Weeks on the "Donnie Hathaway Live" album. Imagine my delight when going through our vinyl when I discovered my wife had a pristine copy. All I can say is WOW. Now all I have to do is wait for her to leave for work so I can play it again, only LOUDER. 417 Fri, Dec 13, 4:55PM EST crimins Big G > you are fortunate to be married to a lady who has even HEARD of Donnie Hathaway. My wife, while very understanding and tolerant of my musical tastes, has no clue who 75% of the people I listen to are. 418 Fri, Dec 13, 7:35PM EST big g crimins> tis a blessing that she worked for Bell Records in the late 60s early 70s. She knew The Byrds, Doors, Michael McDonald, and many other artists through promotion dept. Even Harvey Gurst who was one of the original Acoustic Amp partners. She also hung around the Whiskey A Go go. MY LA WOMAN I'm sure if I weren't a musician, I'd be gone. Just kidding. >>Side 2 just ended at appropriate volume. :o) Willie be KICKIN BUTT. Fortunately my daughter has picked up my wifes eclectic tastes in music. SHE gave me the tip about getting Trans_Siberian Orch. tickets. She also does music revues on the local teen TV show. lowlifer>>>forcast, rain and snow next 7 days 419 Fri, Dec 13, 9:28PM EST Mr.Bass big g> I still have that photo you posted of BB&A. Finally got to see Jeff Beck live, what a great sound, that man rocks! 420 Sat, Dec 14, 12:55AM EST big g THE travesty, abomination!! button 421 Sun, Dec 15, 0:49AM EST Mr.Bass big g> That hurt just to look at that pic, why in the world would someone do that? 422 Sun, Dec 15, 1:07AM EST First Bass Has anyone here dealt with or heard any feedback about the A&R company called TAXI? Are they really legit? 423 Sun, Dec 15, 1:39AM EST AzBug g: Ouch! What REALY makes it a killer is it has a maple fretboard. Looks as though whomever the monster was he was gonna mount plates all over it, or something? Sacrilege!!!! Off with his head, I say!!!... First Bass: They've been around for quite awhile and I've never heard of them doing anything for anybody.... Any of you guys ever heard Liquid Tension Experiment? Essentially, Dream Theater with Levin on Bass. Pretty wide open stuff. Levin plays a lot on the Chapman Stick. Plenty of energy! 424 Sun, Dec 15, 9:08AM EST big g It is a 74 jazz. Apparently the owner had put designs all over it. It had a Buy it now price of $950. I figure each one of them holes cost him about $20 on todays vintage market. LOL 425 Sun, Dec 15, 10:01AM EST big g BTW Heres the link to the auction if someone is interested button After some thought, I figure someone could plug all those holes and then do a custom refinish with a year specific color. 426 Sun, Dec 15, 4:07PM EST old timer My Custom Shop Jaco is in better shape than that piece of shit . I wouldn't buy that for 50 bucks , and Lord knows I'd buy any Bass!!! Ask Luther . 427 Sun, Dec 15, 4:15PM EST old timer Mr. Bass , maybe we should get together along with Luther and PABass and open our own Bass shop . After going into most music stores around here , we have got to have the best and biggest selection of top shelf Basses around . We can pretty much cover New England , N.Y . and PA. At least we'll open up some much needed space in the house . After all , we wouldn't want the dog to have to sleep outside ! 428 Sun, Dec 15, 7:34PM EST Mr.Bass old timer> From what Luther says it looks like you have me beat in the bass ownership department, but I bet from all the basses people have mentioned on here we would have the most diversified catalogue around LOL, and thanks for thinking of my dog! 429 Sun, Dec 15, 9:59PM EST Luther AzBug...I have 2 cd's from Liquid Tension Experiment. It's a lot like the other music from the boys in Dream Theater, but it's a little more listenable for my taste. It could be because I admire Tony Levin so much. OT definitely has too many basses. He needs to send them my way. I'll take great care of them, LOL. That '74 Jazz bass would go for around $2000 if it was MINT, according to the "blue book". I have a re-fin '74 Jazz that's in excellent condition with the new paint job. It's "blue book" value is around $1700. I can definitely see someone paying the asking price, fixing it up and turning it around for a modest profit after sitting on it for a few years to increase the value. Those basses are getting harder and harder to come by. I'm seeing a lot of late 70's Jazz basses with 3 screw holes on the neck plate and the bullet trus rod adjustment at the head stock, but not too many pre-1975 basses. 430 Mon, Dec 16, 0:31AM EST First Bass Azbug> Thanks for the info on Taxi 431 Mon, Dec 16, 6:18AM EST anonymous button 432 Mon, Dec 16, 8:24AM EST big g anonymous>what does an ecological site have to do with bass? Luther>>my thought exactly on that aireated bass. The back side did look pretty good. 433 Mon, Dec 16, 9:00AM EST anonymous1000 G , must be one of those tree-huggers being pissed off about basses being made out of wood , I'm guessing . 434 Mon, Dec 16, 12:31AM EST crimins Big G > maybe anon was thinking about "Save the Bass" as in fish. Or maybe they saw "Bass Web Relay" and thought we were fishing with dynamite or something. 435 Mon, Dec 16, 9:45PM EST fear fish Bass induced sub harmonoic waves in water stuns fish ? Tackle of choise..AMPEG!! 8- 10's in a water proof cab, molded into the bottom of a boat...and play for your catch ...dont forget the net !.... I'm warped ...... 436 Mon, Dec 16, 10:02PM EST anonymous an ecological site has to do with everything!!!!!!!! 437 Mon, Dec 16, 10:29PM EST fear KILL SKUNKS !!! 438 Tue, Dec 17, 7:14AM EST crimins Anon > well, I guess everyone on this site contributes to noise pollution. Does that eco-site cover that? 439 Tue, Dec 17, 10:03AM EST lowlifer Big G you get snowed in yet? Mighty wet down here. 440 Tue, Dec 17, 2:45PM EST big g lowlifer>>The snow has finally creeped down the hill to my place. Lots of snow up on the pass. This is how my AM went. Daughters car is not a 4X4. I suggested she take our van which is. I wasn't sure if the road had been plowed (it wasn't) so I went out ahead of her with the flatbed. Got to the Highway around 7:15 am. Highway not plowed. I decided to lead her down below the snow level. At a real bad corner Highway patrol had his lights on and flare on the road. A car was off the right side in the ditch. I got around OK but my daughter hit her brakes and ended up in the ditch too (6 vehicles in all). When I didn't see her behind me I turned around. The kid was ok just, bummed. Vehicle wound up with out a scratch, thanks to nice soft red clay bank. All in all, very lucky, could have been worse. $50 tow bill will be reimbursed by insurance. I did call the Highway patrol and Cal Trans to loudly complain about the road not being plowed at 7:00 am with the kids having to drive 25 miles to school. The kid got an important lesson on driving in the snow. We are supposed to get a break in the weather tomorrow and then its going to be back on thursday until at least next Monday. 441 Tue, Dec 17, 3:17PM EST crimins Big G > 65 degrees and partly sunny here in Florida. Nice. 442 Tue, Dec 17, 3:18PM EST crimins Sorry, I just had to throw that in. 443 Wed, Dec 18, 2:47AM EST Archer My GK800RB didn't have the clarity I once thought it had (could be me) so I put a $150 tube pre amp (blue tube)in front of the GK and it sounds twice as good. It will remain in the rack. Cheers all from So Cal. 444 Wed, Dec 18, 9:22AM EST AzBug Luther: I'm with you on that one; LTE is much less structured sounding than Dream Theater. I have only one of their CD's, but it sure does kick some serious bootie!....g; That time of year, huh? Relieved to hear your girl, ...and the vehicle are okay. NOTE: John; got my Moto pink slip yesterday. I'm done on Jan.3rd... Now, it's time to begin enjoying life! Or at least the elbow grease I'll be using in the future will be used for a much better cause! I guess I'm supposed to be nervous? 445 Wed, Dec 18, 10:51AM EST crimins Az > walk by faith, not by sight. 446 Wed, Dec 18, 11:10AM EST JohnnieA Az>> It s ironic to congratulate someone for loosing a long time job, but in some cases, it seems to fit when there are new adventures straight ahead of you also attached. Especially when it s something you thoroughly enjoy. Dont worry, you ll probably be much to busy to be nervous. Enjoy yourself, and if you ever need to hire any experienced (old) bass players, give me a ring! hehe Later, and have a very Merry Christmas and a huge prosperous New Year in your new venture! 447 Wed, Dec 18, 11:30AM EST old timer Best of Luck , Az . Everything happens for a reason... 448 Wed, Dec 18, 12:31AM EST AzBug Thnaks for the prayers and well wishes, guys. I'm actually pretty fired up about it. Crimins; Believe me, I know it's ALL about faith! Thanks for the words. Thanks again, fellas'! 449 Wed, Dec 18, 5:05PM EST Mr.Bass Az> A little late but, you are an intelligent guy, you always have great insights on a wide variety of subjects here, I know will do well in any endeavor, best to you bud! 450 Wed, Dec 18, 5:11PM EST Mr.Bass I blew out 4 tens I had in a Trace cab a few years back, getting around to replacing them now. You guys have a recommendation on whose 10's to use? I was thinking of Eminence, Carvin, JBL'S or EV's leaning towards the EV's, any others you would use? TIA. 451 Wed, Dec 18, 5:18PM EST Luther AzBug...Best of luck with the new situation you're in. Like someone else said, "Everything happens for a reason." I'm sure we all have experienced that sort of thing at some level in our lives. Hey, in a couple of weeks, it'll be a brand new year. Start things off by doing something you like to do. 452 Wed, Dec 18, 5:59PM EST Mr.Bass If I can just ask one more speaker question and get this out of the way I would be much obliged. The way I understand it is if I do series /parallel wiring, with all the spks. being same impedence & wattage, the impedence of the cab should be the same as one speaker. My wattage should be 2 times the individual spkr wattage? For instance if I am using 200 watt speakers my power handling should be 400 watts?.... I can see Y I blew them up in the first place. Whose on first? LOL 453 Wed, Dec 18, 7:08PM EST old timer Mr. Bass , as much as I hate to say it and possibly suffering some kind of ' fear mojo ', I replaced a blown 10" in one of my Trace cabs with a....Carvin , there I said it ! It's doing just fine so far . 454 Wed, Dec 18, 8:40PM EST Trace Does anybody have the tab for Roger Miller "King of the Road", I can't find it anywhere? 455 Wed, Dec 18, 10:50PM EST big g Mr.Bass>I would vote EVs because I've heard nothing but the best about them. But my pocket book (bang for the buck) has voted Carvin. No regrets in the past 4 years. ;o) 456 Thu, Dec 19, 9:43AM EST AzBug Thanks for the way cool best wishes, fellas'. Im really looking forward to being one of the "Left the corporate ball & chain behind" gang. Although, I'm not a true martyr; I'm getting a pretty decent severance package plus some bonus stipends that will keep me going, if needed. Insurance coverage for 26 weeks, the whole yadda, yadda. A best friend here, in Phoenix left the corporate world after 10 years, started/made a living off a recording studio and is now running his own independant record label (the oldest in Phoenix!). What the heck? I just turned 40; the 2nd half of life starts now! Thanks again, fellas... Mr.B: I kinda fall in with the rest of the guys, EV does have the rep. My experience with Carvin is hit, or miss. Kinda like a Volkswagen; You either get a pearl, or a lemon. Not much in between. 457 Thu, Dec 19, 9:45AM EST JohnnieA Mr. Bass> I put a couple of Carvin s 12s in an old fender bassman cab. behind my 360 watt Traynor head and it has worked out fine, so far, that is... One has to wonder who supplies Carvin with their speakers? I doubt they are winding their own voice coils. Price was user friendly also. Trace> Use you ear. That tune is nothing more than a repeated progression. 458 Thu, Dec 19, 9:46AM EST AzBug I've got it all figured out; If my gig here, in the States doesn't work out I'll jump across the pond and tech for BB. :-) 459 Thu, Dec 19, 9:51AM EST JohnnieA You may have somethin' there Az!! Ye-Haw.. 460 Thu, Dec 19, 10:27AM EST AzBug JA: You bet! As for Carvin, I believe all of their manufacturing/assembly is done South of the Border. 461 Thu, Dec 19, 1:37PM EST big g I was told the speakers are made for Carvin by Emminence, to Carvin specs. Its as cold as a well diggers butt in Alaska (one of my dads favorite sayings). Lowlifer>>Storm on the coast now, snow down to 2000'. Az>>San Diego is almost south of the border LOL. We have rehearsal for Xmas eve mass tonight, to and from should be fun. 462 Thu, Dec 19, 4:27PM EST Mr.Bass Thanks for the input on the speaks fellas. Will let you know how it turns out. 463 Thu, Dec 19, 7:23PM EST AATS I was talking to a guy I know, he said "I won't buy Carvin ,don't you know Carvins are made by Mexicans now?" I asked a friend of his where Jose was born....he said MEXICO...I am still trying to figure that one out! 464 Thu, Dec 19, 7:25PM EST AATS Seriously, they make an inferior instrument because they are Mexican?Give me a break. 465 Thu, Dec 19, 7:39PM EST lowlifer Batten down the hatches Big G here comes the next wave of storms. 466 Fri, Dec 20, 7:31AM EST anonymous AATS: YES!!!!!!!!! 467 Fri, Dec 20, 8:06AM EST superbass button 468 Fri, Dec 20, 10:04AM EST big g Its a winter wonderland at my place today. Gorgeous. Right now the population in Ca is soon to be more than 50% mexican. Why, because they do all the jobs that rest of the population won't do. All the mexican workers at my last job were hard working, conceientious sp?, and eager to learn. Of the 8 electricians that were on that job, 1 was an alcholic and is in jail for 7 years, one disappeared without a call, 2 were let go for just causes (and probably stole tools), and the rest were competent workers. I see no problems with something made in mexico any more than mij,mik,mii,or made in the USA. In a capitalist society we vote with our pocket book. Now stepping down from my soapbox. It's never a win win in political arguments, I just felt a need to respond to anonymous. 469 Fri, Dec 20, 10:55AM EST AzBug AATS: I think you read into what we were saying? I grew up an hour North of the border and spent quite a bit of time in Mexico. The Mexican people are great people. In general, their work ethic is long forgotten by Americanos'. The slant on MIM stuff comes from the fact that their factories are run with much less regulation and quality control than is required by law up here. Their tools are usually crap compared to what is used up here. Anybody given crap tools is forced to do something with less quality. Race has nothing to do with it. 470 Fri, Dec 20, 3:47PM EST AATS Azbug> You are right. I may have misinterpreted what was said. I just didn't want there to be a unanimous vote that if a Mexican made it there was no way it was a valuable instrument. Good luck in your future plans. 471 Sat, Dec 21, 10:40AM EST fear I think the stigma behind ""made over seas"" by an american co. Is that it shows greed for money over the actual product quality by the american co,s and thus we are dis- approving of them when so many of our own people are out of work anyway. It seems like they dont care as long as the buck lands in their pocket. They make money on the building of the product and again on the selling ....win win. So if were all out of work because of their tactics ........whos gonna buy ? 472 Sat, Dec 21, 10:43AM EST fear Hope You'all have a Grate Holiday season this year . Fear and Family 473 Sat, Dec 21, 11:47AM EST AzBug fear: My job went overseas. I could have went with it, but even with an almost unbelievable bonus I just couldn't do it. I was kinda pissed I had to chose. All manufacturing is moving offshore. It seems the only way the companies can stay afloat? Either that, or it's the only way these American CEO's can keep their wives in $80K BMW SUV's. I could go for some time, but staying on topic; Over on the TalkBass forum one of th etopics has Elrick owners bitching up a storm about the new korean made bass looking exactly like their American mades at less than half the cost. Why do these guys do it? They make a lot more money and can keep their wives in nice cars. It's the American Dream! Where/When's it gonna change? Wasn't this Country built on work ethic and the ability to produce/manufacture? I don't see it on the streets very much anymore... Luther: I picked up the other LTE CD yesterday. These guys are ANIMALS! Much more enjoyable than the Dream Theater thing. Also, I picked up Tony Levin's live release. Great, great stuff! It was released this year, so if you don't have it.... 474 Sat, Dec 21, 12:46AM EST Luther AzBug...the only Tony Levin release I have is "Waters of Eden". It was hard to come by a few years ago. I guess you needed to order it or buy it at one of his shows. He's playing near my in January. Last time I saw him there, I met him. He's a super nice guy. This club is small and intimate and a great place to see someone like him. 475 Sat, Dec 21, 1:22PM EST Mr.Bass I also met Tony Levin @ a Bass Day one year, really down to earth nice, guy. I picked up his book Beyond The Bass Clef, a very easy read and funny and informative. It makes a good gift for a Bass Player LOL! To all my bass brothers, have a Happy Holiday and a great New Year, one of my New Years resolutions, try and get in here more often. Peace 476 Sun, Dec 22, 5:50PM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Mr. Bass> If you haven't ponied up for the speakers yet, let me throw my 2 cents in. First of all, it depends on the power your running through them. If they're getting less than 300 watts of blue juice (RMS of Course) my vote is for the EV's. They have a purer sound at these ratings. If, however, you are running 300+ watts RMS I have to vote for the Eminence speakers. Their cones are a shade stiffer for this very reason. Eminence tends to be a saturation based speaker and at these higher levels they just start hitting their stride. They will scream for you with a truer sound if you need something that needs to handle that much blue juice. Otherwise, I vote for the EV's which hit their stride right in the 200-250 watts RMS range. (Voice of too much experience.) Fortunately we have a great speaker repairman. These guys can re-cone anything. LATELY-New band just passed another audition. Moving up from the $50 a night gigs to the $100 a night gigs. Another 40 tunes or so and we're going for the $200 a night circuit. Currently using a little 43 watt amp for electric bass which we run parallel w/sans amp bass D.I. (you may recall what a fan of these I am), and the little 43 watter sounds like an overdriven tube amp which acts as my monitor. Running the Upright straight to a Topaz Mixer (Best board I have EVER seen) via a Paracoustic D.I. Box. We mix the basses off to the PA Subwoofers which are both 15" folded horns. Bass players in the audience have been asking how I get that huge sound. They look at the little no name 43 watt amp and scratch their heads. It's been quite amusing. Drummer thinks it sounds like Timmy Bogert. I just think it sounds hip having that kinda tone on a rock solid backbeat behind a C&W Band. 477 Sun, Dec 22, 11:13PM EST Mr.Bass Bernie B.> Good to see you again! Glad the gigging is working out. Thanks for the advice, I think I am going to go for the EV's because I am running @ 250 RMS, I agree they would be a good match for the power rating, have a nice holiday, BTW I love my little Sansamp too, it feels good to buy a piece of gear that really performs the way they say it will. 478 Mon, Dec 23, 10:42AM EST big g 1hr left on this DOTD. button One of you right coast guys might want this. 479 Mon, Dec 23, 2:47PM EST Mr.Bass Thanks big g, missed it. but keep posting when you see deals, ya never know! 480 Mon, Dec 23, 2:51PM EST Mr.Bass I do faux finishing, my wife wanted me to do faux marble on a spare wooden bass cabinet I made. I looked at her and said you gotta be kidding I don't want to lift it up now imagine if it looked like a damn 500 lb pillar! 481 Mon, Dec 23, 4:37PM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Yeah, but talk about super retro--You could tell everyone your playing through a Magnatone amp and see how many real old timers there are at the gig. (LOL) I think you'll like the EV's. In that watt range they sing, and that's what most Mesa's pack. 482 Mon, Dec 23, 7:29PM EST shady82 hey someone talk 483 Mon, Dec 23, 7:30PM EST shady82 SOME ONE TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 484 Mon, Dec 23, 10:48PM EST halo... yo solamente hablo espanol pero los hombres no gustan me 485 Tue, Dec 24, 9:45AM EST AATS ??> That was kinda funny... Merry Xmass and Happy New Years to all. 486 Tue, Dec 24, 3:50PM EST old timer Merry Christmas one and all... 487 Tue, Dec 24, 7:18PM EST fear X-mas Twas the night before X-mass and to Wall mart I need go, even tho we got 6 inches of snow. I started the jeep then brushed off the snow ..put it in gear and away I didn't go. When under the truck arose such a clatter I jumped out and crawled under to see what was the matter. and to my horrowfied eyes should appear A broken U joint And the yoke it did shear. WHY! ...HOW !I started to exclame. Then I realized what was to blame. The tires were frozen solid, down to the ground. AND With all that torque, something had to go round. Now the jeep is parked the way of the caddy but its NOT a sleigh. To drive that caddy in the snow, would surely put on one hell of a show. Slide this way , then that way, otherwise totaly out of control. I sucked up my pride and went inside, and explained to the family we had no ride. I picked up the phone and started to cry cause i was callin a taxi and so mad I could have fried. The taxi came and off went to wally world with all our money to spend you could here me yell as we drove out of sight Get a chey! Get a Ford ..A dodge or a toyota. CAUSE AMC JEEPS ARE CRAP-OLLA! MERRY CHRISTMAS E-0NE 488 Tue, Dec 24, 7:36PM EST RE- TYPE POME, PC GOFFED Twas the night before X-mass and to Wall mart I need go, even tho we got 6 inches of snow. I started the jeep then brushed off the snow ..put it in gear and away I did not go. When under the truck arose such a clatter I jumped out and crawled under to see what was the matter. And what to my horrowfied eyes should appear.... A broken U joint And the yoke it did shear. BUT WHY! ... BUT HOW !I started to exclame. Then I realized what was to blame. The tires were frozen solid, down to the ground. AND With all that torque, something HAD to go round. Now the jeep is parked in the way of the caddy but its of no matter, and its NOT a sleigh anyway. To drive that caddy in this snow, would surely put on one hell of a show. Slide this way , then that way, otherwise totaly out of control. I sucked up my pride and went inside, and explained to the family we had no ride. I picked up the phone and started to cry cause i was callin a taxi and so mad I could have fried. The taxi came and off we went, to wally world with all our money to spend. You could here me yell as we drove out of sight Get a chey! Get a Ford ..A dodge or a toyota. CAUSE AMC JEEPS ARE total CRAP-OLLA! MERRY CHRISTMAS E-0NE 489 Wed, Dec 25, 1:29AM EST Mr.Bass fear> Sorry to hear about your truck but that was a great poem!... My wife did a twist on the same tune a few years back about a bands misfortune, was funny also. 490 Wed, Dec 25, 8:40AM EST big g Merry Xmas and happy holidays to all from the Chapmans! I know all the good little boys and girls here got everything they wanted. 491 Wed, Dec 25, 10:10AM EST SoCalBug... Home for the Holidays Merry Christmas to all those that celebrate the season. Happy Hanukah (sp?), Kwanza, whichever you chose to observe. May this season and the year to come prosper in peace for us all... 492 Wed, Dec 25, 11:01AM EST Skiball Peace and Blessings from Steve Tanya and Joey- Orlando Fl. 493 Wed, Dec 25, 11:11AM EST lowlifer Fear a chevy or a dodge could do the same thing as they all use spicer ujoints and shafts. 494 Wed, Dec 25, 12:18AM EST Mr.Bass Merry Xmass to all my bass brothers and families. If you have any Korg recording gear or would like to pick up a few recording techniques, this site is awesome. There are a couple of studio engineers there that really know thier craft. button 495 Wed, Dec 25, 6:21PM EST bassman Mr.Bass> You pick up the coolest sites thanks. Just got into a D1200 and dig it. 496 Wed, Dec 25, 6:39PM EST BassLand Happy Holidays to all of Bass Web Relay Chat 497 Wed, Dec 25, 8:45PM EST JohnnieA Merry Christmas from Tucson! Drove the daughter home form PHX. It's a turn-around trip! 498 Wed, Dec 25, 11:27PM EST AATS YO HO HO .. 499 Thu, Dec 26, 12:29AM EST ..and a bottle of rum?!?!? 500 Thu, Dec 26, 1:40PM EST Santa's run off to the Caribbean.... 501 Thu, Dec 26, 5:11PM EST I hope not with my wife!!!! 502 Thu, Dec 26, 5:39PM EST crimins Well, one of my Christmas gifts from my wife was a new case for the new fretless I bought a couple of months ago. It's a Coffin Case - shaped like the old wooden coffins, with a tucked and pleated burgundy interior. Kinda eerie, but nice. The bass barely fit into it. She was worried there for a minute when I went to put the bass in the case. Musician's Friend has them refurbed for about $80. 503 Thu, Dec 26, 5:53PM EST Mr.Bass The only problem I have with those cases is I don't play some of my basses nearly enough, and if some were in cases like that I might really consider them dead, lol...but I think they are a cool idea. 504 Thu, Dec 26, 5:54PM EST Mr.Bass AATS> Did you play Santa this year by any chance? 505 Fri, Dec 27, 8:49AM EST Luther My wife got me a SansAmp Bass DI. Who ever suggested this to me a year ago, right on!!! It's one of those things that I'll never understand how I got along without it. 506 Fri, Dec 27, 10:31AM EST AzBug You're gonna dig it. I've had mine for a couple years now and that thing still proves itself worth way more than it's weight. The latest, I was tracking a g^&%ar track on my home studio. I was trying to get a nasty distorted tone and it just wasn't working. I thought about using the sansamp... It was a %200 improvement! I'm getting ready to put together a touring rig and the rackmount version of that preamp was the first thing that went in! 507 Fri, Dec 27, 10:36AM EST crimins Luther > I use my SansAmp DI every Sunday in our church band. I love it. 508 Fri, Dec 27, 1:55PM EST Mr.Bass Luther> Ditto....They are great for recording also, nice growl to them. I have two very small practice amps a Peavey Micro and a Hartke Kickback and it makes both of them sound like a much bigger rig. 509 Fri, Dec 27, 2:57PM EST crimins Yeah, I use a 25 year old Peavey 400 bass rig at church and the SansAmp actually helps that beast, too. 510 Fri, Dec 27, 3:40PM EST Luther I just can't get over the hugh difference this little stomp box makes. Talk about thickening up your tone...it's truly amazing. I was just playing my Roscoe Beck through a GK 2000 RB with a Bag End 1x15, and that SanAmp DI (as Emeril says) "kicked it up a knotch"...or rather several knotches. NOt that the rig I was playing through wasn't already nice to begin with, but the difference is like night and day. Enough the DI...have any of you used George L cables? I just got a few. They're pretty nice...pricy, but nice. I guess they're make to order. 511 Fri, Dec 27, 5:16PM EST fears gonna get one8) Someday.......... 512 Fri, Dec 27, 5:26PM EST fear ....................Heavy sigh 513 Fri, Dec 27, 10:42PM EST anonymous button 514 Sat, Dec 28, 10:39AM EST ..Above....Being in the right place at the right time 515 Sat, Dec 28, 10:40AM EST no more no less 516 Sat, Dec 28, 12:25AM EST Here lies Less More killed with a 44. No Less, No More. 517 Sat, Dec 28, 1:07PM EST anonymous1000 Hey above...Yahh...evreeting koool runnin mahn... 518 Sat, Dec 28, 6:22PM EST Mr.Bass I have a lot of time on my hands lately, work is sloooow. I have been doing some recording, I aquired a Korg D1600 Digital recorder, this machine can produce a CD quality equal to almost anything out there. Of course you have a slight learning curve with it. But if you put the time in, its unbelievable how good it sounds. I recorded my bass using what other than..The D.I. and another channel miked and blended the two, it sounds really clean. If anyone is thinking of getting into recording gear this machine is the ticket. 519 Sat, Dec 28, 11:32PM EST Fear If Anyone is using Kazaa to down load music , What is the secret to uploading Or placing a file into your shaired folder that can be uploaded . Is there any specal tagging that the cut needs. I cant seem to be able to get a file to my guitar friend . It is in the correct format and size. Any help out their? 520 Sun, Dec 29, 0:11AM EST fear I dragged and dropped the file into the shaired folder and it's track tags are listed as, Artist; Phil-cult. Track title; cities on flame. Track file name; cities on flame BOC.mp3 Its their now and the pc will be on all night if you want to give it a try. 521 Sun, Dec 29, 4:46PM EST old timer fear...try iMesh , I've gotten good results . Beat since Napster went out , Thanks to Mr. Metallica(sp?) drummer... 522 Sun, Dec 29, 4:47PM EST old timer Thats best not beat....duh! 523 Sun, Dec 29, 4:48PM EST old timer Luther...just think how good that Spoiler would sound through the Sansamp... 524 Sun, Dec 29, 4:49PM EST old timer PABass...wazup bro...long time no hear . How was the VT. brew ? 525 Sun, Dec 29, 10:14PM EST Mr.Bass Hey fellas, it's going to be the New Year soon, anyone plan on buying a new bass, rig, effects, recording gear in 03? I think I have enough equipment for awhile, plan on concentrating more on recording and getting my own songs recorded to digital rec. But the only instrument I need for the studio is a nylon string gu@#$$r, but thats in the summer. It never ends. 526 Sun, Dec 29, 11:27PM EST Mr.Bass fear> I haven't used Kazaa yet. What storage site would you recommend for uploading MP3 or wavs? Looking for a site to place my band wavs. A free site would be preferable. TIA 527 Sun, Dec 29, 11:31PM EST fear Found a new in the box Sans Amp on e bay I'm watching closely. 175 is the buy now on it . I aint' found but about a 10 $ difference in price anywhere, from that buy now price. The resurve price may be a little less. Even the guys at Bass central quoted a 170 price. Anyone got any leads....or pull.... on a better price? My Music store went under after 20 years because of a G^&$$(* Center moved into town. 528 Sun, Dec 29, 11:41PM EST fear Hea Mr bass I Found one and posted it It had 3 gigs of free space But it has since gone wayside. I think Kazza or Morpheus Or Imesh Are All the same Basicly Its Peer to Peer networking P2P as its called . AND YOU SHOULD be able to Make a MP3 file and place it in your shaired folder and be able to give the file name to your buds and they can down load it ""IF"" your on line at the time they look it up . My Bud cant find the file MY fault or his I dont rightly know ..........? But fi you want to try Down load Kaaa And search with the above info As it was copy pasted onto this board ...Eleminating ....MOJO !! haha 529 Sun, Dec 29, 11:45PM EST fear If this works (Which it should) Then you have UNLIMITED space from which to shair music or get music to and from I'm on Kazaa now if you want to try. I'll leave the PC up and running.. I gotta go ZZZZZZZZZzz 04;30 IS -0- to early to be going to work ..Vacation is over =8( 530 Mon, Dec 30, 10:51AM EST crimins Fear > I got my SansAmp at Sam Ash for $159. 531 Mon, Dec 30, 3:47PM EST crimins Of course, I had to do some talking to get them to knock off $20. 532 Tue, Dec 31, 4:06AM EST Mr.B button this is a steal! 533 Tue, Dec 31, 9:47AM EST AzBug fear: I am not so sure you're gonna be able to find a smokin' deal on a sansamp D.I. right now? I know the guys' at the Bass Place here, in Az. can't keep them in stock. They're about the hottest selling item out there in the Bass world. $160 is the lowest I've seen one listed. Speaking of hot items, have any of you that have one or are shopping for one noticed how the price tag on the Lakland Skyline series seems to keep creeping higher and higher? Or, is it just me?.... Mr.B: I ran into pretty well respected musician here in town at the Kyoto Bowl yesterday and he had just come from buying a 1600 at the GC next door. He paid $1400 and thought he got a deal. I doubt that puppy will go for the minimum bid on there right now. It would be interesting to see if it goes for $1400, or less... HAPPY NEW YEARS, Bro's!!! 534 Tue, Dec 31, 12:45AM EST old timer Time to wish one and all a Happy and Healthy New Year . May you never miss a note... 535 Tue, Dec 31, 11:31PM EST anonymous 536 Wed, Jan 1, 9:37AM EST anonymous 537 Wed, Jan 1, 1:03PM EST Mr.Bass Happy New Year all! Keep on posting! 538 Thu, Jan 2, 0:59AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Last year I sounded like a commercial for the Sansamp D.I.. My lovely wife bought me one for Christmas. I keep talking about getting a new amp, as I sold my little gig machine and just use the Sansamp through a little 43 watt no name for a stage monitor. (I know none of you guys have ever heard of Audio Pipe Great little amp though). I'm beginning to doubt the need for another amp anytime soon. The Sans Amp just keeps doing the trick thanks to great sub woofers on the PA. (15" folded horns.) This little device really does get me the sound of five different amps, though I seem to be fond of a setting that sounds like a cross between Jaco meets Timmy Bogert. It's balls to the wall. Now at the risk of sounding like another commercial my Lakland Skyline Series is the best little do everything get every sound bass I've ever had. I forgot to do a battery check the other night and of course the battery conked out in the middle of the second set. I just pulled up the volume knob which immediately switched the bass over to passive mode. Battery change instantly on next break thanks to flip top compartment. I love this little bass. I sold almost an entire collection of killer axes to help finance my career change, and this little Lakland does a credible job of all the others. Combined with the Sans Amp I no longer need 5 basses and 3 amps to get all the different tones I was so used to having. I am still jonesing for a Genz Benz, but I question whether or not I should spend the money if I don't have to right now. If those subwoofers ever went I'd be screwed and tatooed, but otherwise, my little $185.00 box and $99.00 amp are doing the trick. 539 Thu, Jan 2, 2:16AM EST lowlifer Bernie B are you still using those Elixur strings? How long did they last for you? 540 Thu, Jan 2, 7:01AM EST Luther Bernie B in the P.T...your "jones" for getting a Genz Benz might warrant more consideration. I had a Genz Benz 1x15 and 2x10 a while back. I wasn't really impressed, but I held onto them for a while because I got them for cost and wanted to give them more of a chance. A few months later I grew tired of them becase they didn't have quite the sound quality I was used to. Also, the cabinets weren't able to handle the lower frequencies too well. They rattled a bit and reminded me of Peavy quality gear. I eventually settled on Mesa Boogie and SWR cabinets, which sounded light years beyond the Genz Benz stuff, but they were A LOT more expensive. 541 Thu, Jan 2, 9:10AM EST AzBug Bernie: I would probably go with Luther on the Genz-Benz stuff. Jeff Genzler has his shop here, in Tempe. He is continuously bringing his latest stuff over to the Bass Place to get the guys to 'Road test' it. He gets a step better each time out. I might put his stuff the next step up from Peavey, but still falling short of the stuff he is trying to copy, i.e. SWR, Eden, etc. Each time he knocks the quality and performance up a notch his price follows. It seems by the time his stuff is really good his price is gonna be right up there, as well. His new 2x10 wedge combo is a pretty nice set up for a small gig monitor set up. Price is decent, as well. Not as good sounding as a Metro, or Redhead, but the price is just a hair above half of what you'd pay for the Eden, or SWR. 542 Thu, Jan 2, 10:17PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Lowlifer- Put the Elixirs on my backup bass. I love the sound of these on a passive instrument. Yes they are quite old, but still sound quite good. How's that rosin working out? It's the real Carlson's not the imitation stuff. I think it should be doing wonders for your daughter's bow work. Let me know. Thanks for the feed back on Genz Benz guys. I really am looking, but thanks to the two DI's, Sans Amp for Electric, and Paracoustic for URB I still have time on my side. Who here was it that said they went with straight power amps. I have been contemplating a Crown 1000 watter and pre-amping it with the Sans Amp in one channel, and the Paracoustic in the other. The Acme Low B cabs are calling me, but those cabs do need a lot of blue juice to kick the speakers up to their full potential. Thoughts anyone? Thanks Luther and Azbug- You guys have always been great at calling the shots in the past. Again- I have two instruments to worry about here, and I'm beginning to think direct is the only way for URB. 543 Thu, Jan 2, 10:23PM EST Mr.Bass This is a list of CD's put out by bassists. See if your fav is here or if someone you like has thier own CD out. button 544 Thu, Jan 2, 10:26PM EST lowlifer I tried my orginal Sans Amp Bass DI into a Mackie M1400. The signal wasn't hot enough. So I got a used Ampeg SVT2P preamp to drive the mackie. Got 2 Eden 2x10s and a Bag End deep red 1x18. This setup kicks butt on outdoor gigs. Don't need no stinking PA for the BASS. 545 Thu, Jan 2, 10:26PM EST Mr.Bass I never knew John Wetton had 3 CD's out! In The Dead Of Night by UK has a really cool rhythm(sp). 546 Thu, Jan 2, 10:27PM EST Mr.Bass Hey Low! 547 Thu, Jan 2, 10:29PM EST lowlifer Big G can attest to the sound of my rig. 548 Thu, Jan 2, 10:29PM EST lowlifer Sup MB? 549 Thu, Jan 2, 10:32PM EST Mr.Bass That was strange to actually see someone on at the same time low. I would love to hear all you guys. I can tell all of you know your craft. 550 Thu, Jan 2, 10:33PM EST Mr.Bass I was deleting some junk from my hard drive and I inadvertantly deleted a sound file I needed to play sound, my comp doesnt make one peep. 551 Thu, Jan 2, 10:38PM EST lowlifer What version of windows are you running? Have you checked your trash can? XP makes it even easier to recover. 552 Thu, Jan 2, 10:40PM EST I am running 98 553 Thu, Jan 2, 10:41PM EST I don't even have the volume control, I think I deleted a necessary driver 554 Thu, Jan 2, 10:47PM EST lowlifer Maybe, if so you'll have to reload. 555 Thu, Jan 2, 10:49PM EST Yea, it's going to be a pain, no matter what, going to check out Microsoft.com they may have the drivers I need, thanks. 556 Thu, Jan 2, 10:55PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Lowlifer, I think that was you I heard playing last night. Damned rig sounds nice- even from half way across the U.S. of A. LOL 557 Fri, Jan 3, 8:10AM EST big g When we had lowlifers rig up here for one of my jams, it was the first time I could hear bass just as clear in back of my house, as I could in front of the band! That was before he added the bag end 18. :o) 558 Fri, Jan 3, 8:20AM EST Luther Mr.Bass...an interesting John Wetton story...some friends of mine were attending an upstate NY college a number of years ago and heard a guy playing guitar and singing King Crimson and UK tunes away in the distance. As they approached, not too many people were around checking it out, but they were fans of that music and decided to look closer. It turns out to be John Wetton. He was having a food drive, collecting canned goods, for a local food bank that was running very low on supplies. They say ge was very approachable and a heck of a nice guy. He even took requests! Later on they wondered if it was all a ruse and he was actually supporting starving musicians, LOL. I've always liked his sound and now that I own a SansAmp Bass Driver DI...I can get that overdriven P-Bass tone rom "One More Red Nightmare", LOL. 559 Fri, Jan 3, 1:18PM EST Mr.Bass Luther> That's a cool story. It restores your faith in the music biz when someone actually does something to help another individual, instead of self indulgence. 560 Sat, Jan 4, 0:38AM EST steve how do yo uplay 10ths on the base 561 Sat, Jan 4, 1:10AM EST Mr.Bass steve> An example of a Major tenth would be to play the A on the E string(5th fret) and a Db(6th fret) on the G string an example of what it sounds like would be Steely Dans song Peg, Chuck Rainey plays them during the intro. Also Jeff Becks Wired album 2nd song Come Dancing its the first chord in the song and the bass is playing it, hope this helps. 562 Sat, Jan 4, 9:17AM EST fear test 563 Sat, Jan 4, 1:01PM EST your test didn't work 564 Sat, Jan 4, 2:07PM EST anonymous1000 fear the mojo... 565 Sat, Jan 4, 2:53PM EST anonymous whats that red x? 566 Sat, Jan 4, 2:53PM EST anonymous it means the pic didn wok 567 Sat, Jan 4, 2:53PM EST anonymous wok? u spead chines 568 Sat, Jan 4, 2:54PM EST anonymous yea as well as you spead de inglish 569 Sat, Jan 4, 2:55PM EST anonymous i thout wok was jap 570 Sat, Jan 4, 2:55PM EST anonymous jap chine what the diffrenc 571 Sat, Jan 4, 6:45PM EST anonymous1000 They all look alike ... ni dong ma ? 572 Sat, Jan 4, 11:13PM EST me so horny..me lub you long time... 573 Sat, Jan 4, 11:26PM EST the kiddies are out again 574 Sun, Jan 5, 4:57PM EST old timer JohnnieA...almost ! 575 Sun, Jan 5, 10:33PM EST Mr.Bass It's been awfully quiet in the Bass Room lately, whatsamatta, all you guys have a hang over, let's get 2003 rollin, so who is the best bassist now? LOL...BTW...who is that I saw on the latest issue of BP, he looked Blue? 576 Sun, Jan 5, 10:35PM EST Mr.Bass BASSICS has a celebrating Jaco issue out now, I recommend getting the issue that has the CD included, some good bassists honoring Jaco on there, check it out. 577 Mon, Jan 6, 7:13AM EST Luther MrBass...I don't know about CT, but upstate NY got POUNDED with snow over the past 3-4 days. I've been clearing snow since Friday, or at least the excuse I'm giving for not being here,LOL. The guy in the luminescent paint from Mudvane takes the make-up just a bit too far for my taste. I was fine with Gene Simmons' "demon" get-up or John Taylor sporting a full make-over for Duran Duran in the 80's, but the blue stuff is ridiculous. Besides, he probably gets his gear all mucked up every gig, LOL. On a "lighter" note, I just picked up the Miles Davis autobiography he did with Quincy Troupe. It's pretty interesting and dabbled with colorful descriptions of other musical greats. 578 Mon, Jan 6, 7:46PM EST fear The blue Men ....PVC pipe musicians Maybe he thought to cap on that ? I've made enough PVC pipe noise to last a while and still nowhere near famous.. Paint My self blue .....proberly get the guys in white coats after me . .... not that they arnt already looking. 8# ... 579 Mon, Jan 6, 8:08PM EST fear Putting last year in prosepctive ....no where to go but up ... I 've got some pretty serious equipment . SVT 4 , 8-10 cab , Lakland 5, DOD bass compressor, Digitech BP-8 floor board, Crete BPX 1000 (Stereo FX ), Not real happy with BP-8 or BPX Would rather have an ART NB and Sans amp. Will the Art and Sans Work well togather ? Scrap the Art and just use the Sans only with the compressor ? I play everything from Aerosmith to ZZtop . I want a rig that will give me Cliff Burton to Stanly clark to Jaco to Pink floyd tone without a lot of cheese getting there. Simple but HIGHLY effective. What am I looking for ? 580 Mon, Jan 6, 8:10PM EST fear What would be the signal chain? with whatever is recomended ? 581 Mon, Jan 6, 9:51PM EST Mr.Bass Hey fear, I would trade in the BP-8 and BPX and pick up a Sansamp and a T.C. electronics chorus or Bass Pod and if I had to only pick one it would be the Sansamp. I go Bass Pod into Sansamp and I get some real gritty sounds happening. But that's based on what you like, if you are going to use reverb or delay that should go after the Pod. You really would have to fine tune it to your tastes. Just one mans opinion. If you want more info on any of the above just shout! 582 Mon, Jan 6, 10:55PM EST fear Mr Bass, Make that Crate BPX 1000. BTW, did you make any use of KaZaA File shairing for your music ? button 583 Tue, Jan 7, 1:09AM EST Mr.Bass Hi fear, I appreciate the link. But I was telling crimins a few posts back that I completely lost all sound on my computer, I have tried almost everything, short of bringing it to a shop, downloaded new drivers, did all the sound troubleshooting and Microsoft troubleshooting but still no luck, so I can't hear the file if I post it which is a drag. I know that I will use Kazaa eventually, thanks. 584 Tue, Jan 7, 1:38AM EST Mr.Bass Luther>I am more on the shore so we didn't get to clobbered by the storm..... I am looking for that orange flourecent jump suit my brother wore on gigs, it looks like it could possibly make a come back, LMAO! 585 Tue, Jan 7, 3:55AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. I'm looking to start sporting a Turban w/the fluorescent orange jump suit. Talk about putting a new spin to the name of one of my old groups Bernie and the Bombers... 586 Tue, Jan 7, 2:56PM EST old timer fear... if you can get your hands on an ART NightBass I guarantee you can find whatever sound you desire and then some ! Thats not to mention the FX you can add AND control all the parameters of each one . I've been using one as a pre-amp before going into the Trace 350 head and I haven't scatched the surface of it yet . I think Mr Bass had one for a while...? But , as always Mr Phelps , should you try one and not like it....you did'nt hear it here ! 587 Tue, Jan 7, 5:54PM EST Fear Mr Bass Install a new sound card . Creative labs Is a good one . I saw one somewhere....??? that even encluded a 8 or 16 chan. mixer program with it. Have you tried your system restore disk ? Save everything you have to disk or CD-R before you use it or it will wipe out everything you have. 588 Tue, Jan 7, 5:57PM EST Fear OT, they dont make'em- amymore. But some are still floating around .Any floaters out your way? 589 Tue, Jan 7, 6:39PM EST anonymous 590 Tue, Jan 7, 8:37PM EST Mr.Bass old timer> How are ya! It wasn't the Night Bass it was the ADA-MB1 I think they went out of business, the only drag about it was the soft membranes on the front panel you had to use instead of rotary dials, or I probably would be still using it. 591 Wed, Jan 8, 12:20AM EST Mr.Bass fear> That's my last resort if it comes down to it, I'll have to do it, because have you ever heard of a musician that doesn't have sound on his computer???? 592 Wed, Jan 8, 12:31AM EST Mr.Bass This is a coyright basics link for anyone interested, it's a good idea to maybe put the site in favorites, you never know when one of those bass lines might lead to a terrific song! button 593 Wed, Jan 8, 12:32AM EST Mr.Bass that of course is supposed to say ...copywright...I have to lay off the vodka 594 Wed, Jan 8, 1:10PM EST big g Mr.Bass>have you ever heard of a bassist that doesn't have subs on his computer? LOL 595 Wed, Jan 8, 3:24PM EST crimins Mr. Bass > actually you were right the first time. It's "copyright". You may be right about the vodka, however. I used to swim in that stuff. 596 Wed, Jan 8, 3:25PM EST crimins Thanks for the link, BTW. 597 Wed, Jan 8, 5:56PM EST Mr.Bass I messed it up both times actually! I decided to switch to 7 & 7 's !LOL 598 Fri, Jan 10, 1:01PM EST anonymous1000 Testing....testing....is this thing working....? 599 Fri, Jan 10, 5:34PM EST It's been working all week, just didn't have anything to say. 600 Fri, Jan 10, 6:13PM EST Mr.Bass Yea, This is unusual for no one to come in here, I wonder if the left coast guys have been having problems getting online? I have been doing a lot of recording on the Korg D1600 this thing is da bomb. I have a list of people that want to come over and just record something cause it sounds so good! Is anyone familiiar with sound libraries? 601 Sat, Jan 11, 2:13AM EST lowlifer MB it's been working out here in PRK 602 Sat, Jan 11, 7:27AM EST Luther the fellas in my R&B band have placed a big responsibility on me to sing (and play bass) on a number of dance tunes that are not only tricky to play and sing, but downright tough to sing properly. Give It to Me Baby - Rick James, Back In Love Again - LTD, Don't Turn You Haeter Down - Delbert McClinton/Tommy Castro, Kid Charlemagne - Steely Dan, Bad Mamma Jamma - Carl Carleton, I Got the Feelin' and Soul Power - JB, just to name a few of the more challenging ones. I'm putting more time in the woodshed than ever. Anyone else here go through this style of torture? 603 Sat, Jan 11, 2:18PM EST anonymous1000 Luther...I bet it was the guitar players idea...just cant trust those guys ! 604 Sat, Jan 11, 2:26PM EST AzBug Mr. Bass: Sound libraries? Is that a sampling program? I use Gigastudio for all my sound files. Works pretty good. I've been pretty lucky to get ahold of some righteous samples as well.... Luther: Geez, Dude! You get good at that singing and playing stuff you're gonna be a gigging fool! :-) A good Bass player that can sing as well? I don't know about your neck of the woods, but down here you'd be getting call after call for gigs.... BTW: I've updated a few pic's in my little Yahoo collection if you guys wanna check them out? button 605 Sat, Jan 11, 6:59PM EST Mr.Bass Az> Did you and the drummer plan on having matching instruments? His drums look like they are stained the same color in the Burl Roscoe pic. Those basses are some beauts! The sound libraries I was refering to were the type that take your little snippets and use them for various multimedia productions/ commercials etc. The newer BMW commercial has just a stand up bass and a snare drum for the sound track, most likely that was taken from a sound library. 606 Sat, Jan 11, 9:21PM EST lowlifer Big G you sing and play bass. Do you have any tips for Mr Bass? 607 Sat, Jan 11, 9:22PM EST AzBug Mr.Bass: The bass and drums do match up nicely, but, no, we didn't plan it that way. :-) That kit is one of the nicer sounding kits I've played with, tho'. I think the shells are amber stained figured maple. My Bass is redwood. As for sound libraries; most of them are protected and you are SUPPOSED to pay for them. I know for a fact not everybody does. Tons of pirating going on. I have a few sounds files are simply amazing. Here is a link to get you started. button It's a great place to start from. Have at it, and enjoy! 608 Sat, Jan 11, 9:26PM EST AzBug Hey Guys, my latest GAS attack is for a 5-string Fender Jazz. I need a good, vintage sounding Bass in my arsenal. I like the Jazz. If you come across any smoking deals, g; you're the master at it on this page. If you come across something drop me a line? Mucho appreciado! 609 Sun, Jan 12, 2:40AM EST lowlifer Azbug what is your email? Johnie A or Big G has mine if you don't want to post it here. 610 Sun, Jan 12, 3:41AM EST Mr.Bass Thanks Az,...Luther my hats off to you for attempting some of those, Kid Charlemagne has some tricky bass parts I wouldn't know where to begin with that one. I don't sing so I can't give you any tips. 611 Sun, Jan 12, 11:39AM EST AzBug lowlifer: go ahead and send it to arcopizz@hotmail.com. 612 Sun, Jan 12, 12:31AM EST old timer Az...got a Warwick Corvette 5 , 2 Pedulla's-an MVP 5 in Trans Blue and a Tob SB Rapture along with a Ken Smith Custom Burner 5 I'll be putting on the block shortly if your interested . Also , just a thought , have you tried a Roscoe Beck ? More sound options than a Jazz 5... 613 Sun, Jan 12, 12:48AM EST AzBug OT: Those all sound pretty sweet, but there have been one too many times where I needed the simple old, traditional Fender passive tone. I was able to tweak the daylights out of my fretted roscoe to get close, but not quite there. I would like to get an American Jazz V, with the strings through the body and graphite-reinforced neck. The thing is they also usually come with the active preamp. I would probably disable the pre and make it a straight passive Bass. I think I MAY have played a Beck once. I will see if I can get my hands on one to give a good run for it's money. They've got pretty beefy electronics on them, don't they? Another note: I just might be interested in your Ken Smith. Is it a bolt on? Would you mind giving me the spec rundown on it? Construction, scale, wood types, etc... 614 Sun, Jan 12, 12:56AM EST AzBug Okay, need some help here; I went to the Ken Smith site to look at a burner and none of them are listed as burner's. He's got all kinds of models but I can't tell which are the burners. Anyone enlighten me? 615 Sun, Jan 12, 9:35PM EST anonymous FSDFH 616 Sun, Jan 12, 9:36PM EST anonymous JL;K 617 Sun, Jan 12, 9:36PM EST anonymous ELLO 618 Sun, Jan 12, 9:36PM EST anonymous F*CK YOU 619 Sun, Jan 12, 11:19PM EST from greece hello everyone.i have a ARION HU-9300 guitar tuner that doesn't track really well.someone told me i can fix it somehow.anyopinions? 620 Sun, Jan 12, 11:23PM EST from greece hello everyone.i have a ARION HU-9300 guitar tuner that doesn't track really well.someone told me i can fix it somehow.anyopinions? 621 Mon, Jan 13, 1:26AM EST anonymous doez it have a backdoor? 622 Mon, Jan 13, 7:26AM EST old timer Az ,what's your e-mail addy , I've got a digital camera so i'll take some pics and send them to you . 623 Mon, Jan 13, 7:36AM EST big g The Niners were very dissappointing yesterday. Oh well, next year. At least the other Bay Area team is still in it. Jumping ship, go Raiders (after all, I was born in Oakland). Az> I'll E-mail you any thing that may be suitable. from greece>> try a new battery? As for singing and playing bass, I just have to nail the bass part cold before working in the vocals, but the songs you listed are a bit more complex than the songs I sing. Good Luck 624 Mon, Jan 13, 10:35AM EST AzBug Thanks, g. GO RAIDERS!!! OT: Send your email to arcopizz@hotmail.com. I'll reply with my "Real" email for you to send the pics. 625 Mon, Jan 13, 5:15PM EST Skiball Hey! I know that dude! Check it out! Im a star now! My stikingly handsome face is on the web for the world to see! button Im Steve by the way. This is a songwriter I worked with in West Palm Beach, Fl. about 4 years ago. DIG THE MULLET!!! 626 Mon, Jan 13, 5:48PM EST Skiball Oh yea, click on photos- thats not me on the cover pic 627 Mon, Jan 13, 10:28PM EST anonymous Whom ever said that flipping my bike and seperating my shoulder would improve my playing was wrong, bastard! 628 Tue, Jan 14, 11:30AM EST crimins Hey Ski! Gald to see you back on the chat. My work gig in Lake Mary is just about over. I've been here for one year. I'll still be coming down occasionally for a day or two. 629 Tue, Jan 14, 12:28AM EST anonymous1000 anon...it will improve your bike riding not your playing...duh ! 630 Tue, Jan 14, 11:46PM EST anonymous what do you all think of carvin basses 631 Tue, Jan 14, 11:47PM EST anonymous anyone have any input about carvin 632 Wed, Jan 15, 3:17AM EST I would only use one in a pinch. They don't seem to have much of a life of their own. But, it's more what you play than the instrument, if it felt great in my hands and I could get a good sound out of it, why not? Lets Rock! 633 Wed, Jan 15, 7:36AM EST big g I like my maple bodied carvin LB75. 634 Wed, Jan 15, 8:11AM EST crimins Anon > I owned a Carvin fretless 5, which I thought was a very decent instrument. It was actually one of their kits, which I assembled, finished, and wired. I have since sold it in order to buy an Aria fretless 6. No complaints about the Carvin bass at all, although I have problems with their R600 bass head. 635 Wed, Jan 15, 12:33AM EST anonymous1000 fear...Paging Dr. Howard , Dr. Fine , Dr. Howard.... 636 Wed, Jan 15, 3:45PM EST Luther anonymous1000..."nyuk...nyuk...nyuk..." 637 Wed, Jan 15, 3:57PM EST crimins Here's a link to the real deal > button 638 Wed, Jan 15, 7:27PM EST old timer A Three Stooges website...what'll they think of next ? A Michael Anthony bass transcription of ' Runnin With The Devil ' ? Why Soitenly....! 639 Wed, Jan 15, 7:52PM EST Bad Boy Aren't Carvins made by Mexicans? 640 Wed, Jan 15, 7:52PM EST Ever hear of The Three Scrooges? 641 Thu, Jan 16, 10:24AM EST fear What ?... Carvins ? Made by people That live in CA. If thats a Bad thing... well then I guess I need to throw my wine out >8) I like my Carvin, havent had a problem. They stand behind their products .(Heard some weard stories along with that... but very few) Many top players Play them... or at least have one in their arsenal. If Its for you or not... Only your fingers and ears can answer that one. 642 Thu, Jan 16, 10:32AM EST fear Lets see Distortion on... 1/4 note E E E E ...E E E E ...E E E E ...SLIDE... E E E E . Is that about right OT ? BTW Located Cuda ! Body prep-ed and Ready to build up 643 Thu, Jan 16, 10:36AM EST fear Wanting to sell if anyone is interisted or knows somebody that might be ... offering a Finders fee ! button 644 Thu, Jan 16, 10:45AM EST fear Also could be thinning out the basses . 76 grabber , Ibanez tr , Carvin lb 70 Quilt maple finish. Digitech bp-8, Crate bfx . will sell the whole bunch for 1600. All works 645 Thu, Jan 16, 10:50AM EST fear Also DOD phase , Distortion, And Compressor Stomp boxes throw'n in 646 Thu, Jan 16, 12:57AM EST old timer fear...got a lot of nifty Mopar hi-po parts just laying around in my ice cold garage . Take a ride on over and I'll fill your trunk up... 647 Thu, Jan 16, 1:17PM EST old timer Az...I didn't forget about you , I'm still trying to figure out how to send a picture in an e-mail...! I'll get it one way or the other ! 648 Thu, Jan 16, 6:02PM EST crimins Back to the Stooges > here's a site where you can download 250 of their sound clips. Check out Curly on the upright. The Stooge of Bass! button 649 Thu, Jan 16, 6:30PM EST Curly Joe 650 Fri, Jan 17, 1:06AM EST 651 Fri, Jan 17, 1:35AM EST 652 Fri, Jan 17, 1:36AM EST Thatsa niceee! 653 Fri, Jan 17, 1:38AM EST 654 Fri, Jan 17, 1:39AM EST Take a guess who left these pics...see if you are paying attention out there! 655 Fri, Jan 17, 4:16AM EST fear? 656 Fri, Jan 17, 10:12AM EST big g "Az...I didn't forget about you , I'm still trying to figure out how to send a picture in an e-mail...! I'll get it one way or the other !" OT save your picture as a JPEG. Then from your e-mail go to attach and find the file where you saved it. Hope this helps 657 Fri, Jan 17, 11:53AM EST AzBug OT: No problem! As g said; when you download your pic onto your PC the software that came with your cam should ask you, or give you the opportunity to save the pic as a Jpeg. Select that and tell it to download it to your desk top. That makes it easy to find when you select the 'Attach' function at the top of your email page. Send an email as you usually would; click on 'Attach', select 'Browse' then select 'Desktop' and the pic file should be listed under your desktop. Hint: When you are downloading the pic file give it a file name that you will easily recognize. That makes it a whole ton easier to find it when browsing.... Question; Has anybody ever seen a Ken Smith with a maple fretboard? I have yet to see one. 658 Fri, Jan 17, 11:55AM EST AzBug Forgot: When you have 'Browsed' to your desktop and found the pic file you want to attach just double click that file and it will automatically attach to the email. 659 Fri, Jan 17, 1:48PM EST Mr.Bass Az> Now that you mention it I never saw a K.S. with a maple fretboard, I bet a special order wouldn't be a problem. Speaking of woods, does anybody know of a site that tells you the specific composition of certain woods, like hard to soft, porosity and all that good stuff, TIA. 660 Fri, Jan 17, 2:37PM EST JohnnieA Mr.Bass>> Interesting that you mention K.S and Wood in the same post. Just so happens that the K.S. site has a fairly desent wood description page. Click on "Woods" off the main page. button 661 Fri, Jan 17, 2:44PM EST JohnnieA This site from "Woodworkers Source" may be of interest as well. button 662 Fri, Jan 17, 2:56PM EST JohnnieA This site shows timber that was rescued from the bottom of Lake Superior after some 100 years.. These logs were already hundreds of years old when they were cut. The company wants big bucks for this stuff. ll bet the tonal qualities of 500-year-old maple would sound pretty sweet .button 663 Fri, Jan 17, 4:36PM EST AzBug JA: I'd bet that "wood" sound great! :-) I saw a "This Old House" about a crop of old wood that was preserved in the swamps down south. The guy took Norm on a tour of their shop but the location was kept secret as I guess they are leaving the wood in the water until they are ready to use it. Allowing for dry time, of course. Check out the new Marcus Miller Jazz5 announced this week at NAMM; 664 Fri, Jan 17, 9:55PM EST Mr.Bass Johnnie A> Thanks for the links, that was exactly what I was looking for! 665 Sat, Jan 18, 1:31AM EST Ditto, Johnnie, AKA "Woodie" 666 Sun, Jan 19, 2:25AM EST All bass players have to have at least one woodie 667 Sun, Jan 19, 11:19AM EST Mr.Bass Found this on ebay, I was looking to see what a 5 string fretless Ernie Ball was going for, I am going to be putting mine up there soon, I still can't play that baby, but thanks for the tips you guys gave me when I asked awhile back. I thought this bass had a peculiar finish wih a maple neck which caught my eye. 668 Sun, Jan 19, 12:13AM EST button 669 Sun, Jan 19, 12:34AM EST Stingrei maybe sombody here got the mf 101 low pass filter schemes..... 670 Sun, Jan 19, 12:36AM EST Stingrei maybe sombody here got the mf 101 low pass filter schemes..... 671 Sun, Jan 19, 2:10PM EST Mr.Bass Do you guys know of a good source to find out the exact year a bass was made in, via serial #, the instrument is a Ernie Ball 5 string? 672 Mon, Jan 20, 10:41AM EST JohnnieA Mr. Bass>> You re quite welcome. It s good to actually contribute something meaningful to Ye Ole Bass Chat . AZ>> Is there a site for that swamp timber? I find that kind of stuff fascinating.. 673 Mon, Jan 20, 5:33PM EST old timer Imagine a right coast guy saying ' GO RAIDERS ! '...! 674 Mon, Jan 20, 7:54PM EST lowlifer Pirate Bowl all right!!!!!!!!!!!11 675 Tue, Jan 21, 2:52AM EST Bernie B way before the P.T. I personally have been a Raiders fan since the old AFL (remember that league--you know the referees wore red and white striped shirts), and George Blanda used to quarterback for them. He was also their punter, and everyone made a big deal out of him being 45 years old. (well I guess there hasn't been a 45 year old Q.B. since.) Remember when they practically went up against the K.C. Chiefs every year to fight for the championship. It was Blanda's arm versus the kicking leg of Jan Stenerude. ----Hey wasn't Gannon an old K.C. Chief?---Hmmmm? 676 Tue, Jan 21, 10:14AM EST big g Az, this looks interesting. button 677 Tue, Jan 21, 1:42PM EST singer any italian? 678 Tue, Jan 21, 2:04PM EST old timer italian?..yea wudaboudit...? 679 Tue, Jan 21, 3:13PM EST AATS As told to me by a drum fanatic, Buddy Rich always tuned his drums he also was known for having a quick temper. He just hired this new bassist he turned to the guy and said give me an A, the bassist turned around and put his fingers together shaking his hand back and forth a little and then said Ehhhhhh trying to be funny, Buddy said, Your Fired. 680 Fri, Jan 24, 9:12AM EST big g Boy, one Buddy Rich joke and this place goes silent. LOL Now if I could just find a drummer fanatical enough to tune his drums to notes. I can't stand the snare tone of most drummers. AATS what note should the snare and bassdrum be tuned to? 681 Fri, Jan 24, 10:10AM EST AzBug g: That's right along the lines of what I'm looking for. It was gone by the time I checked it out. GO RAIDERS! Show Chucky he shoulda never left! *LOL* JA: The only thing I could think of as far as finding out about that timber is to go to the This Old House page and see if they have anything about it in their archives. It's gotta be at least a year since they played that segment. AATS: When I was a 16 year old kid playing in the jazz performance band in High School we played at a festival/competition at Orange Coast JC. Buddy Rich and the members of his band were in town and ended up guest judging the competition. Anyway, back in those days there were workshops after the competition. I sat through 2 hours of rhythm section workshop with him. He wasn't nasty, but I distinctly remember his intensity. I'm not sure if I've ever met anybody else that took music as seriously as he did? Another thing I remember is, he created more sounds and tones with his hi-hat, stand and all, than most cats I've played with can do with their entire kit. Definitely a highlight of my music life! 682 Fri, Jan 24, 10:31AM EST JohnnieA Thanks AZ.. I'll give it a look see. 683 Fri, Jan 24, 11:29AM EST big g Azbug> I'll e you direct next time one comes around. :0) 684 Fri, Jan 24, 11:37AM EST Mr.Bass The drummer in my band idolizes Buddy and said that when he saw Buddy play live when he was a kid it changed his whole way of approaching the instrument. Imagine someone being inspired that much by your playing, that it effects thier life in that way, that would be the ultimate compliment someone can give you. 685 Fri, Jan 24, 1:31PM EST dwalmz Anyone know of this bassist. His name is Bill Sharp. Can anyone ID the bass he's playing? 686 Fri, Jan 24, 1:54PM EST AzBug It's a Tyler. A somewhat obscure, yet highly sought after bass. Most Nashville players have one. Supposedly, a great recording Bass. I caught this guy backing up... aww geez. I can't remember the guy's name right now. Sax player. Smooth jazz guy.... g: Sounds good. Thx! 687 Fri, Jan 24, 2:42PM EST AzBug .... I remember now, I caught this guy about 2-3 years ago backing Dave Coz. Great player. Veeeeery smooth. 688 Fri, Jan 24, 3:43PM EST AATS big g> Good question, I usually will tune my bass drum to a low A and then go up in 4ths from there, floor tom etc., the snare just has a higher snap to it and that I do by ear, I don't use any certain pitch, but that's me. 689 Fri, Jan 24, 7:29PM EST DWBass RE: Bill Sharpe. Yes, I saw him backing Dave Koz last night on BETonJazz. He made that bass sing too. I'm not diggin' that headstock on that Tyler bass though. 690 Fri, Jan 24, 9:34PM EST .Bernie B in the P.T. Looks like a Reverend Rumblefish made hot monkey love with a Conklin. 691 Fri, Jan 24, 10:38PM EST Mr.Bass Bernie..thats funny...I dug the bass until the headstock, which to me looks like an upside down Space Shuttle. I am sure he plays it well though.... AATS> Do you ever ask YOUR bass player for an A?..LOL! 692 Fri, Jan 24, 10:50PM EST AzBug You guys are pretty funny! *LOL* I agree. It's not the best looking bass to come along, but the little I've heard about them, they're, like I said earlier, they are supposed to be pretty nice. It's the headstock that reminded me it was a Tyler. Some Nashville guy had his up for sale on Bassgear.com a couple weeks ago. 693 Sat, Jan 25, 11:56AM EST AzBug Sheesh! I thought that bass was a six-string! Just realized it was a 5. Look at that string spacing. You gotta jump on the L-train to get from one string to the next! :-) 694 Sat, Jan 25, 5:04PM EST Ernie Ball Are you guys working any "melody lines", from Standards? Playing walking lines and root/five stuff is all very fine in the outfit I am in now-but those damn Hal Leonard Jazz books are pretty cool. H.L. Jazz Classic Standards ISBN 0-7935-7159-6 and Essential Jazz Standards-ISBN 0-7935-7169-3 are both good -written for bass clef instruments. In the latter, Jazz Standards-it is nice to play the complete melody line on a 4 string bass to say-The Girl From Impanema with the rythmic bridge- (whole note-followed by triplets, then a dotted half note. It pisses the guitarist off when I warm up, playing this Moderate Bossa Nova-note perfect-the tempo really moves with a solid groove. Another choice from the book-is memorizing the melody line in the same book-from Rogers & Hammerstein, "My Favorite Things" in 3/4 time. This had a very melodic bridge which sounds good in the upper register. Another melody line that sounds good is Julian Cannonball Adderly's WORK SONG-which I found a nice version at SamGrahamtrio.com. Miiko Watanbe, is a fine Japanese bassist in this trio and she does the B part on Work Song (demo on site)-but being demented I used an Ibanez Rock&Play-slowed down the Jazz guitar riffs to half speed-dropping it an octave-and play both parts note perfect. The Jazz guitar part has all the best riffs-and it is not that long in duration. Another melody line I like to play on bass is instrumental melody of Frank Sinatra's vocal to "Fly Me To the Moon" (Count Basie and the orchestra) which I got from the Quincy Jones Box Set. Then there is the Hoedown melody from Bella Fleck's live CD-"Live at the Quick". These aren't solo pieces per se-but memorizing the tunes and digging in with gutzy vibrato on the roaring bridge segments-raises the eyebrows of the keyboards of guitar player-big bonus is that you are playing them note perfect-whereas they may be BS'ing the prhases in their own recollection. If you can't sight read the bass cleff in the Hal Leonard Books-simply transcribe the melody line below the staff and work it up, by ear. The tunes I listed are automatically recognizeable-whereas playing Crazy Rhytm from the Cotton Club (a good tune!) from HL Jazz Classic Standards or A Night In Tunisia, from the HL Essential Jazz Standards-would go over the heads of most R&B fellow group players. I must say the accompaning CD's for both books are well done-and the charts leave ample space for soloing after the head melody. Well, I thought I would contribute a little bit of what I have been doing when I haven't been slugging amps down to gigs and playing other people's shit-I mean songs. Pardon me. Best wishes to the group and thanks for all the entries, I read them all. Mabey these melody lines are therapy for me-they certainly won't be used in any of the band numbers-but I play them perfect and they DO sound good on bass-with no other instrument. Vibrato and slides (zip or legato) help-efx get in the way. Take a look at these HL Books/CD's and on a romantic nite- glide into, The Girl From Ipanema, Mr. PC from John Coltrane or My Favorite Things by R/H. Be prepaared for raised eyebrows from fellow band members. Comment on one recent gig-by some gentle drunk-"Gee-I never saw a Skinny bass player!!" (I am 6' @180lbs) Sorry, chum-you see, I forgot my tuba at home. All the best. 695 Sat, Jan 25, 9:38PM EST lowlifer Been a long time since I've seen a post that long in here. 696 Sat, Jan 25, 10:40PM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Even w/me still posting?--Anyways I'd like to add that these are good finger gymnastics for chordal theory. Seems lots of country and pop tunes are doing more and more of the ii-V-I turnaround thing, and those tunes that Ernie mentioned are full of 'em. 697 Sat, Jan 25, 11:06PM EST Mr.Bass Ernie B> I used to learn a lot of melodies for my own enjoyment, just to hear what they would sound like on bass. Somewhere Over the Rainbow was one I enjoyed then I would do it cut time. All of Me is another, it was great to see Jaco did the same thing, it made me feel I wasn't on the wrong track after all. 698 Sun, Jan 26, 1:27AM EST archer Victor Wooten sold out when I was 20 feet from the box office last night. I left with my ego intact. 699 Mon, Jan 27, 8:26AM EST crimins I got a true blessing this past Saturday. The g*****r player on our worship team at church owns a small music store in town. The other day he called me and asked if I could come by his store the next day. He wouldn't tell me why, but I know him well enough to know that it would not be a wasted trip. Well, sure enough, when I got there he proceeded to pull a Fender bass case out from behind the counter, opened it, and showed me a beautiful Fender Custom Shop reissue of a '64 Jazz. He explained all the features on it, how the Custom Shop determines what parts to use in their reissues, etc. Then came the surprise - he told me to take it, it was mine, no cost, no strings attached. My jaw hit the floor. He has been known to do this before with some other guys, but I never thought of it happening to me. Anyway, the Jazz is beautiful(sunburst with tortoise sheel pickguard, rosewood finger board) and plays great. The only other Fender bass I've owned was a '68 Tele Bass, which I literally ruined in the '70s. This one will ot be treated that way. Just thought I'd pass this on to let everyone know there are still folks with good hearts out there. 700 Mon, Jan 27, 9:17AM EST big g Congrats Crimins! What a wonderful, unselfish thing for him to do. Storys like this reinforce my feelings that there is still hope for humanity. 701 Mon, Jan 27, 9:32AM EST old timer crimins...like g said , good for you . Those Custom Shop basses really ARE special . The more you play it , the more tone you'll find IN it . Best of luck , and as Wayne said , " Play On ! " . 702 Mon, Jan 27, 9:35AM EST old timer Az , been trying to find my sales reciept for the info on the Smith . I'll get it out to you shortly . 703 Mon, Jan 27, 5:32PM EST anonymous1000 What the hell happened to the Raiders ? They SUCKED ! 704 Mon, Jan 27, 9:11PM EST archer Ernie et All, I lived on aerosol tapes and sequences (mostly) when working off my jazz degree. I always learn the melody and memorize the changes, that s when I START really working on a tune. I would knock off several rounds sequenced with mildly changing simple and open stuff to keep it a little interesting and play each tune allot. Example of the benefit of sequencing is say the first 8 bars of Giant Steps, just loop them for a summer and you can scare people. Another thing is I d memorize the tune by progression (like ( I, vii7halfdim, iii7, ii7 ect ect.) that would help me a bit and definitely when the singor called their special key. 705 Mon, Jan 27, 9:14PM EST archer Crimins, That is cool! 706 Mon, Jan 27, 10:24PM EST Jerry Ford err, Abersol tapes, Derrrr, 707 Mon, Jan 27, 11:26PM EST Mr.Bass crimins> That was really a cool thing he did, have a blast with it. 708 Tue, Jan 28, 1:00PM EST AzBug crimins: That is excellent! Well, from what I've read from your postings on this site I can tell you're the type of fella that would enjoy doing the same in return for others, so you deserve it. Enjoy!... OT: Sounds good. Just send it on when you dig it up.... Archer: Victor is playing here tonight in a 1250 seat club. A buddy of mine knows the clubowner and as of yesterday only 400 tix were sold. 709 Tue, Jan 28, 5:03PM EST crimins AsBug > well, if I was there, they would have sold 401! 710 Tue, Jan 28, 7:57PM EST fear I knew there had to be a catch "no strings attached " LOL Thats Just Grate C !! I would even call him a ""Guitar Player"" on this board for that, He desurves IT! Play well My friend ! 711 Tue, Jan 28, 7:59PM EST fear More good news My better half in opening up a barber shop .. I get to quit work and go to school for barber cert . And yess their will be a bass or 2 in the shop ...hehe 712 Wed, Jan 29, 2:33AM EST Ernie Ball Yes...Lowlifer-that indeed was a long post. Just venting I guess. Wooten's Howtown fretless meldoy on Live At the Quick-just got the juices flowing, Then there is that Hendrix riff on Burning of the Midniite Lamp, Bouree by Jethro Tull (Bach)-AND The Girl From Impanema-does sound sultry if you can lay back and nail the delecate Rhythm-with the vibrato of a French Horn. Re: Jacko-I always try to include the melody line from the Wizard of Oz (If I Only Had A Brain) which he did on his live gigs. Then I will stare the keyboardist/vocalist and transpose "The Theme (& Bridge) from The Flintstones" (the bassist for Booker T, did that at a live gig in Florida and the whole audience was clapping to the FLINSTONES groove) to C-since the solo section often is in C-and watch his eyes bug out-then the gracious smile "Ok, kid ( am 40+) get back on the bandstand, and do those 4 or 8 to the bar walking lines-UPTOWN! (uptempo) in GIRL (key of G7). He will call out chocolate which means key of C-while thanking the pretty barmaids for his refill of Hennessy. FOLLOW UP to Saaat. Jan. 25/03. Kept this post short for the benefit of LowLifer. I contribute a few times a year. 713 Wed, Jan 29, 2:46AM EST Ernie Ball One last thing-what are you regulars working on? Road Trip/other people's set lists? By that I mean covers or standards. Originals? Home Study or writing and recording? Gigging with equal standing-dare i say Socialistic song selections-each player can bring an equal number of good songs to the group-whether or not he can sing the lead vocal. String quartets work this way-but each one has a veto-of if he hates the song contribution-it is dropped. Why play something you hate-or ONE person hates. There is lots of good material around. Or do you just play the songs-that the frontman organizes since he is the often calling the clubs (or his agent) to get the gigs. Every group has their own way of getting out and playing-and doing good gigs-but what catagory that I listed above, do you folks fall into? Food for thought. (On the extreme side-I heard Madona's label pulled one of her songs or re-arranged it-much to her chagrin. Clapton-classifies Madona as package artists. (Fashion-Edgy-Well Produced-but not musical per say-though millions of fans would disagree. *** Have a Great February **** 714 Wed, Jan 29, 4:50AM EST Mr.Bass Ernie B> Gigs are slow here so I have been concentrating on recording lately. Meeting some really talented musicians. When I do gig it's R&B, T.O.P., Average White Band some real fun bass lines. I am the band leader so I get to chose the songs hehe, but you have to compromise a bit, there are a few songs I would love to ditch but some of the guys still like playing them. 715 Wed, Jan 29, 3:24PM EST crimins Fear > well, when I said no strings attached, there was an E, A, D, & G on it. Yuk, Yuk. 716 Thu, Jan 30, 11:06PM EST Mr.Bass We have been in a real BIG FREEZE up here in CT, its starting to possibly thaw out, I am looking forward to tommorow being maybe 34 degrees! Do you guys have any tips on storing a bass that can see real varying temperatures, that you may not play for a year or so? 717 Thu, Jan 30, 11:09PM EST 718 Thu, Jan 30, 11:10PM EST g loomis 719 Fri, Jan 31, 1:59AM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Mr. Bass- If it has a battery---take it out. Loosen the strings so the neck doesn't have to endure the stress of lying about. Keep the tension somewhat less than flopppy so the bridge doesn't slip out of tune. Then as the old Wilbury's tune says--"Store it in a cool dry place." 720 Fri, Jan 31, 9:38AM EST big g I've never seen the need to loosen the strings much if any. I've taken out basses that have not been played for quite a while, and while they tend to be either sharp or flat equally on all strings, it has never caused any problem. Just retune and play. I do store mine in their cases on end in my closet so there is no weight on the neck. I will say I don't get the minus 20 and 30 degrees that some experience, our in house temps probably never fall below 50 degrees. YMMV 721 Fri, Jan 31, 12:43AM EST Ernie Ball Have been playing a beach club, called the Prince of Wales in Playa Del Rae with the doors open (sea moisture, fog and humidity from the builder protected wetlands nearby-and was amazed that my maple neck did not MOVE. Previously, I would have to reset the truss rod every six months. Maybe the wood is settling in and not so prone to "moving". Same week, we play at Joxers another Venice Beach locale and a private club in Marina Del Rey-right above the yacht slips. So the Ernie Ball neck may have finally stabalized. My other fear is corrosion in the various efx send and return as well as other inputs-that with the slightest corrosion will shut the whole amp system down. This is a very expensive Marshall Dynamic Bass System head-with matching 4x12" cabinet. I had hauled the 160 lb rig and no LA shop could trouble shoot the shutdown-until I met a vintage amp guy-(ROBEERT DIXON) locally who is on contract with the Stones and Chli Peppers when they are in town-and he explained how cheap today's jacks are designed-compared to the quality vintage designs. Back then it was point to point wiring-with well built jacks etc. Now everything is fragily soldered to cheaper PC boards-vs point to point wiring (which would be too expensive to manufacture today. After several failed amp shop attempts to get my rig going-this guy replaced the jacks, and had the thing running in 30 minutes. He also took my shiny blue Speakathon nutric cables (that go from the head to the cabinet) and threw them in the trash-and built a heavy duty power cable that could handle the power. This particular Marshall head-has 2 amplifiers with a sensor-so when one 400W amp runs out of head room, the second amp kicks in-to maintain enough power for a clean full sound. Thus Marshall could only get its UL Approval if it supplied Speakon Nutric cables to the cabinet-of which both sets were intermittent and Robert Dixon's custom cable has never failed once. I just get nervous on a foggy night when the mist starts rolling into the open club door of a hot dance club. >>Mr. Bass, good luck with your bass storage in CT, with those 34 degree temps. Can't wait for summer and play (not store) in a "cool dry place" vs Edmond Fitzgerald rolling fog, rolling into the doors of the Prince or Wales. Thank god for body heat and cute waitresses. Good advice from Bernie B in the P.T.; by the way. 722 Fri, Jan 31, 6:35PM EST Mr.Bass Thanks for the advice guys....It really takes a lot for me to part with any bass I have, but someone mentioned in here that he thought at least someone could be playing the bass and getting use out of it than having it just hang around, I liked that idea. So I am going to put a few up for sale when I get the time, I will post them here first to see if any one would be interested in them..of course I will give a bass relay chat discount, LOL! 723 Fri, Jan 31, 11:12PM EST big g Ernie Ball> I know the value of a good tube guy! amptender@aol.com Gary Donovan. Knows his stuff. Sounds exactly like Robert Dixon. He hotroded and old tube amp of mine, and its one of the best 6 string amps I've ever played on, before it was a POS. 724 Sat, Feb 1, 0:51AM EST AATS Mr.Bass> Do you do stand up? 725 Sat, Feb 1, 10:06AM EST crimins Some of you old-timers (including Old Timer himself) who have been on the chat for two or more years may remember back in 2000 I had a bout with the big "C" and had some surgery to get that stuff out of me. Well, it's back again in another area. It's in my right adrenal gland, which sits on top of the right kidney. After many scans and tests it has been determined that it looks like it's only in that area, so I'm scheduled for another surgery this Tuesday to go in there, check things out, and hopefully take out the adrenal gland and any surrounding tissue that may be malignant. You guys were very supportive to me during the last go-round, and my wife and I would appreciate that support again. If any of you guys are the praying type, those prayers would be much appreciated, too. I'll be in the hospital a few days, then come home to recuperate. I'll be back on the chat soon after that. I really appreciate the brother/sisterhood we have here, even though I've never met any of you face-to-face except Skiball. Thanks, Guys! 726 Sat, Feb 1, 10:08AM EST crimins BTW, that '64 Fender Jazz reissue that I mentioned was given to me in an earlier post - I'll be playing that for the first time with our P&W team at church. I'm really looking forward to that. 727 Sat, Feb 1, 10:08AM EST crimins I should have said I'll be playing it tomorrow morning at church. 728 Sat, Feb 1, 10:33AM EST lowlifer crimins, you'll be in our thoughts and prayers again. We went thru the C 3 times with my father in law, but it was the 5th heart attack that got him finally. But he went out fighting all the way. 729 Sat, Feb 1, 1:05PM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Crimins- Despite a feisty attitude, and countless bar gigs, I am indeed the praying type. We put you in the prayer chain last time, and shall do so again. Remember dude--keep your sense of humour. It's been proven (yes proven) that people who keep their sense of humour stand the best chance of kicking the tar out of the big C. Live life--laugh--and play the dog out of that '64. Pre-BS Fender YEEEEEHAW!!!!! 730 Sat, Feb 1, 1:24PM EST old timer crimins...consider yourself supported and in the thoughts of this old timer . I'll repeat what I said the last time , Good things happen to good people , that include's you bro' . Bad day for Florida in general...thoughts and prayers also for Columbia , crew and families . 731 Sat, Feb 1, 2:35PM EST AzBug crimins: Don't be discouraged. Easy to say, I know, but your faith will get you through! It was awesome the way you kicked it's arse the last time around. I am a God-fearing, prayerful man and you WILL be in our prayers here, in Az!... As are those lost and all of us affected by the terrible tragedy over the Texas skies this morning. You know, when I watch documentaries and reports on the Shuttle Fleet and they show detailed shots of them, I can't help but thinking some of them look too old and beat up to be weathering the extremes they go through when in service. I am a definite supporter and would LOVE to see more of my tax dollars going to building new birds. Maybe, to avoid what happened this morning? Sorry to those that disagree and thanks for letting me vent! :-) 732 Sat, Feb 1, 4:04PM EST bste sup peoples? 733 Sat, Feb 1, 11:22PM EST Ernie Ball Archer; Big g; Mr. Bass; --Thank you for your comments on my posts. Everyone has been posting excellent information on this site-and I am learning abit more about individual contributors. Like how many basses Old Timer has around...LOL. Have a good month, everyone. 734 Sun, Feb 2, 11:07PM EST Mr.Bass AATS> Really not sure what you mean by that, but no on both counts I don't play stand up and I am not a comedian if that's what you meant, but thanks for asking...... crimins> You will be in our prayers, I could only imagine what you must be going through, but just realize that you have a brotherhood here online that have gotten to know you, and care about what happens to you, let us know how it's going, surround yourself with people that care about you and it makes all the difference, best wishes brother. 735 Mon, Feb 3, 11:35AM EST crimins Thanks for the support, guys. It is MUCH appreciated. I'll be back online by next weekend when I'm home recuperating. BTW, the Jazz sounded fantastic yesterday at church. The guy who gave it to me is also our guitar player (I'm gonna spell it out for him this time -Guitar, that is). Anyway, as we were playing during our worship time, he and I would just look at each other and grin. He was playing a vintage sunburst Strat that matched the Jazz. Let's hear it for great sounding axes! 736 Mon, Feb 3, 9:13PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. New bass rig is here, and it's truly a wonder to behold. The Roland DB-700 is an absolute sleeper. No one seems to be pushing it, but I tried one and fell in love. Maybe these aren't for everybody, but for those of us who play electric and upright it's a serious alternative to some of the high priced boutique amps---i.e. Walter Woods/Acoustic Image. Seems the Walter Woods and the Acoustic Image are absolute killers for upright, but they tend to be a little lacking in the tone dept. when it comes to electric. Conversely, most good electrics, i.e. SWR, Eden, etc. are great for Electric, and even pretty good for Upright, except they have a lot of phony mids in there to help brighten the electric. This often leaves a boxiness somewhere in the sound of the Upright that can't be dialed out. (Despite what you've been told in numerous reviews in Bass Magazines that need to sell ad space to these guys.) The Roland on the oher hand has a great mid-scoop dial that, when used in conjunction with the frequency dial lets you bypass this. Better still, it has memory. I admit it's only two memories, but when you have a foot switch and the tones already dialed in, you don't have to stand there and f*%# with a bunch of buttons every time you need to switch between electric and upright. (This can happen as often as every other song on some of my gigs.) For electric I've got a tone dialed in that manages to make the best of the Ampeg SVT Series combined with an old Black-Faced Fender Bassman. It's Gorgeous. I admit that the upright tone is not quite Walter Woods-but it is close enough to an old flip top Ampeg to make playing the upright on stage a real joy again. Switch instruments/tap the footswitch-and awaaaay we go. URB is also helped via The Paracoustic DI which the Amazing Azbug recommended to me about a year ago. The notch filter etc. on this little box has helped me tweak the Piezo Sound into a woodier tone. First amp I've had in years that sounds good with a bow too. These babies list for $1299.00 but Sam Ash has them for $699.00. I went down to Guitar Center with the Sam Ash add in hand, and they decided that they could order one for me from Roland and match the price. Since they ate the shipping from Roland it came out cheaper than Sam ASH'S ULTRA HIGH SHIPPING RATE. If you can find one of these (because Guitar Center no longer stocks them as a regular item), I highly recommend that you try it. These babies move a lot more air than their 250 Watts RMS rating, and you can dial in a ton of tones. Wish the memory could store 5 0r six---but two's enough to get the job done for me, and the balanced DI is better than the ones I've heard on most amps, so it makes a killer monitor system too. Hope this helps anyone else facing the dilemma it took me over six months to find my way out of. 737 Mon, Feb 3, 9:59PM EST fear Hey Crimins, No Worries Mate ... Hang tuff, Were with you . Got some small surgury to get done too ... Wisdom teeth gotta go. Cant seem to come to grips of the sight a guy sitting on my chest with a pair of channel locks, ... and a hammer I'm glad they will put me out for that one.. 738 Mon, Feb 3, 10:03PM EST fear I auditioned for a band last night. There was one other Bass player that showed ...All he had was a BTS Dean with miss match strings and no amp . Out of fairness He played my rig... Guess who got the position LOL! 739 Tue, Feb 4, 8:14AM EST big g crimins>our thoughts and prayers are with you. 740 Tue, Feb 4, 6:31PM EST big g To anyone who got an e-mail from me about a virus, never mind, its a hoax. 741 Tue, Feb 4, 8:32PM EST Skiball Crimmins>>T's and P's here as well brother 742 Tue, Feb 4, 8:42PM EST Skiball Hope this post finds my uddah bruddah's well. Big G>> A hoax! I just "deleted" a cute lil bear for nothing! (L.T.M.). The shuttle disaster is like a kick in the gut. Especialy to us in centlal Fl. That bird was our baby. I watched it go up from a rooftop when it launched. Terrible. troubled times these are indeed............peace 743 Wed, Feb 5, 8:35AM EST big g To all, unless you write Java Scripts, deleting the file will not cause any problems. I've been experiencing computer lockup for the past 6 months and when the hoax e-mail came, I put 2 and 2 together???.....and figured that cute lil bear was the problem. I guess I should leave computer diognostics to the experts. LOL Again, I'm real sorry for any inconvenience I caused. button 744 Wed, Feb 5, 10:47AM EST JohnnieA crimmins>>The other Arizona contingent includes you in thoughts and prayers as well. Get well soon. 745 Wed, Feb 5, 11:41AM EST AzBug Hey guys, the virus issue g is speaking about was instigated by me. Sorry if there were any issues... Sorry g! 746 Wed, Feb 5, 1:30PM EST big g AzBug>no problem bro. 747 Wed, Feb 5, 10:12PM EST Skiball AzBug!!! I knew it!!! 748 Thu, Feb 6, 2:09AM EST BassLand Hey AzBug, I will be in your neck of the woods this weekend. Visiting relatives 749 Thu, Feb 6, 8:50AM EST anonymous button 750 Thu, Feb 6, 10:30AM EST big g Don't waste your time on the above button. Just ANOTHER ECOLOGY SPAM. 751 Thu, Feb 6, 12:31AM EST AzBug Sorry, Ski!!! Bassland: Oh Great! I just took a gig up in Prescott for the weekend! I leave tomorrow afternoon (Friday) and get back into town Sunday afternoon. How long will you be here? If you're here into Monday maybe we could get together? Either come over to the house and we can jam, or I have a friend that runs a Jazz Open Jam at a small place in Tempe on Sunday nights. Where are your relatives? I'm out in East Mesa... Maybe, JohnnieA could join us? 752 Thu, Feb 6, 1:02PM EST BassLand AzBug, How tempting to stay till Monday but I have a gig on Sunday at Church and I expect to be leaving saturday night I want to stop in at "The Bass Place" to see Lee and the guys there... But, we will see. I hope to be at a computer some time during my trip so I will check in here. Later, 753 Thu, Feb 6, 1:22PM EST AzBug BL: I hear ya'. The gig I'm doing up in Prescott is a Youth Retreat for Church. A good friend is the Music Director and his reg Bassist pulled out yesterday. He asked if I could fill in. It's always nice to help a friend out of a pinch. Email me at arcopizz@hotmail.com if you're gonna hang, or let me know what's up. 754 Thu, Feb 6, 1:40PM EST BassLand AzBug, How tempting to stay till Monday but I have a gig on Sunday at Church and I expect to be leaving saturday night I want to stop in at "The Bass Place" to see Lee and the guys there... But, we will see. I hope to be at a computer some time during my trip so I will check in here. Later, 755 Thu, Feb 6, 2:15PM EST BassLand AzBug, How tempting to stay till Monday but I have a gig on Sunday at Church and I expect to be leaving saturday night I want to stop in at "The Bass Place" to see Lee and the guys there... But, we will see. I hope to be at a computer some time during my trip so I will check in here. Later, 756 Thu, Feb 6, 7:49PM EST lowlifer AzBug you'll be near where I want to move to. Chino Valley or Paulden just north of Prescott. 757 Thu, Feb 6, 11:17PM EST Randy Bush can't play 758 Fri, Feb 7, 9:26AM EST big g A bit of Rock Bass History is about to be sold. I can't help but wonder why he wants to part with it? button 759 Fri, Feb 7, 12:42AM EST AzBug Lowlifer: You had said you were gonna buy some property up there a couple years ago. Did that not happen? Better hurry, the way Prescott is growing the price tag is gonna be steadily climbing. Sure is nice country up there... g; I'm doing the Bass parts on a production studio gig and the producer was telling me he has Sklar come in quite a bit. He also told me the cost to bring him in. I don't wanna post it all on this public site, but I'll tell ya', the guy CAN'T be hurting. Unless he hasn't been getting gigs, but I find that one kinda hard to believe. 760 Fri, Feb 7, 5:41PM EST Mr.Bass I am getting wiped out with snow here!!!! big g> Didn't you say you would like to see how the other coast looks, let's trade houses for a month! LOL! P.S....Snow shovel included!!! 761 Sat, Feb 8, 9:29AM EST big g Chuckle, I've got 2 snow shovels. $6100 for Lee's bass. Now what would $6100 buy me bass and amp wise? A couple used Sadowskys, a 4 and a 5, and a Aguilar tube amp? 762 Sat, Feb 8, 1:40PM EST old timer Azbug...that measurement turns out to be 34 1/2" . By the way , anyone else in here converse with Azbug ? He's got more name's or are they alias's ? Got me wondering if he's in the witness protection program...what about it Az ? 763 Sat, Feb 8, 9:17PM EST lowlifer I've talked to AzBug via email and here. 764 Sun, Feb 9, 0:37AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. O.K.-It's official. Played the Lakland through the Roland DB-700 at an evening gig tonight. Keyboard player, drummer, rhythm guitar, and lead guitar were all knocked out by the tone. I guess these little amps just never made a name for themselves. Everyone kept coming up and asking me--"What the-----kinda amp is that? It sounds so good." I tell you guys---try one before they disappear. Outside of my Sans Amp D.I. this has got to be the best dollar for dollar purchase I've made in a long time. 765 Sun, Feb 9, 3:19PM EST Victor Wooten Ecology sites rule!!!!! 766 Sun, Feb 9, 3:55PM EST anonymous1000 Hey Victor...go hug a tree ! 767 Sun, Feb 9, 7:23PM EST AATS I don't care who played that bass, you wouldn't catch me paying 6,100. for any bass!...Mr.Bass> I was just pulling your leg, don't get sensitive on me. 768 Mon, Feb 10, 11:14AM EST AzBug Dang! The jig is up. I've been found out... My real name is 'Vinnie' and I am a native of Bed-Stuy. Of course, none of you know that, right?... Right! :-)......... Bernie; the master of finding the right rig! Is that Roland related to the K100-300-500 series? They are/were somewhat popular keyboard amps. 769 Mon, Feb 10, 11:17AM EST crimins Hello everyone. Well, they did a 3 1/2 hours surgery on me last Tuesday to remove my right adrenal gland, which was 90% tumor. The doc said there was no other evidence of the disease spreading, so that's great news. Of course, they will continue to monitor me over the next few months. I got to come home Saturday afternoon and am recovering quite well. Thanks to all of you who had kind words and prayers. They are much appreciated. I should be back on the church P&W team Sunday after next, although I might be using a stool to lighten the load on my stomach, which is still pretty tender. 770 Mon, Feb 10, 11:21AM EST AzBug crimins: Thank God! Glad to hear it went well. Be patient and let thine temple heal! You'll be back on your feet in no time. Thanks for the good news!.... On the subject of Sklar's Bass: I'd pay $6100 for it as long as his gig schedule came along with it. I'm already %80 gray so I could grow a 2 foot long beard, put on some wire frame specs... who'd know the difference? Well, I'm sure most would wonder what happened to his playing ability! Or, why he is now 4 inches shorter and 100 pounds heavier! *LOL* 771 Mon, Feb 10, 12:33AM EST big g Great news!!! 772 Mon, Feb 10, 2:11PM EST AzBug $6100 will get you about 2/3rd's of this piece of furniture... 773 Mon, Feb 10, 7:37PM EST AATS Are they really trying to pawn that thing off as a bass? Yea...and I will believe Michael Jackson has balls. 774 Mon, Feb 10, 8:38PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Azbug- No these are not the same amp at all. These are amps that Roland, believe it or not, designed specifically for the bass.- The DB-700 is part of a line of bass amps that Roland came out with in 2000. The first was the DB-500 which weighs in at 50 lbs., 160 watts RMS, and has a 12 inch speaker. It features what they call COSM modeling technology so that you can pick one of three basic models before you start tweaking. Solid State (which does sound like an expensive high fi solid state amp, Tube- which,though not quite there, really comes exceptionally close to sounding like a tube amp,(sounds more like today's hybrids to me), and Tube Drive, which sounds like a tube amp with the valves really cranking, but is a shade too distorted for my tastes. The 12 inch speaker just couldn't quite handle a 5-string set on super thump -so a year later they came out with the one I bought-the DB-700 which has 250 watts RMS, and a 15 inch speaker. The 15 can handle a de-tuned B string so I think they hit what they were looking for. They later came out with the DB-900 which is a 320 Watt monster featuring 4x10's and 2 12 passive radiator speakers. Since my 250 Watts is louder than most 350 watt stacks I've played, I'm almost afraid to hear how loud this thing is. The real secret on all of these is what Roland calls feed-forward processing. In theory it takes the initial signal coming into the amp and finds the ultimate signal path for it before feeding it into the speaker. Seems to work. Like I said, this thing is louder than many amps I played rated at 350 watts. The real secret to the multitude of tones is that someone finally figured out that the mids need more than one knob, and more than one way to approach them. They divvied the mid dials up into one labeled LEVEL--which sets the level of mid-boost-plus one labeled FREQUENCY--which lets you pick the frequencies of mid you want to stand out on top of the mix. You can also kill the shape switch, thus letting the mix come directly from your instrument. If you go to Musiciansfriend.com there is a hands on review of both the DB-500 and the DB-700. Bass Player Mag reviewed the little DB-500 when it first came out. Harmony central has reviews of all three. If you get a chance to try one--do it. If you end up loving it as much as I do go to Samash.com and print it off since they're letting them go for the bargain basement price of $699.00. My local Guitar Center matched the price, and even with sales tax, it came in cheaper than Sam Ash's shipping. I really---Really---LOVE THIS AMP!! Crimins> Keep going bro'....there's a wonderful world out here waiting for you to rejoin it. Now if these guys figure out this whole thing is really run by me GUIDO SALVATORI a resident of Boston's North Side--the jig is really up. 775 Mon, Feb 10, 8:39PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Damn--I wrote another book. 776 Tue, Feb 11, 2:37PM EST anonymous1000 Yo Guido , I mean Mr. Salvatori , I think youz meant ta say da Nort End.... 777 Tue, Feb 11, 2:40PM EST anonymous1000 Whilest I'm adit , crimmins dats a gooda nuuz , bona fortuna my friend ! 778 Tue, Feb 11, 4:53PM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Datz right ya rat bastidz 779 Wed, Feb 12, 1:48PM EST BernieB in the P.T. WOOOOOOHOOOOOO! Got booked for a couple of $100.00 a night gigs. 'Bout time I got outta the Chitlin' Circuit and back into the Bush Leagues. Wish me well y'all. I want to be doing the old $250 a night gigs in the not too distant future. Hope I'm not dreamin'. 780 Wed, Feb 12, 8:40PM EST Mr.Bass Bernie...you are not dreaming....the only gigs I get for that amount of cash though, are private parties and weddings. You can approach them like they are a drag or you can really play around with the tunes and have a great time, I decided to persue the latter. Good Luck! 781 Thu, Feb 13, 12:03AM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Mr. Bass and AATS>I love private parties and weddings. In fact did you hear about the drummer who got chewed out at a Greek Wedding because he couldn't give a solid backbeat on 5 and 9? 782 Thu, Feb 13, 1:27PM EST anonymous1000 Dat eezz sum kind ovf ah joeke , ehh ? You rrrr sun ovf ah peege , noh ? 783 Fri, Feb 14, 9:01AM EST BernieB in the P.T. I am sun of a peege yes. Frum wun son of a peege 2 anuther, happy gigging. 784 Fri, Feb 14, 10:11AM EST M.B. Those Greek parties in NYC are wild, you have to play all kinds of strange timings and they can go on all nite. You are talking about some big bucks, but you will def sleep in the next day. 785 Fri, Feb 14, 10:51AM EST JohnnieA BernieB / M.B.>>My 2-cents on Greek weddings . Growing up in East Cleveland and being an American rock and roll bass player, who just happens to be 100% Greek, I must have attended dozens of Greek weddings for aunts, uncles, cousins, and friends. The bands always had at least one Bouzoukia player. If that didn t happen then one of the unks would bring in 8-tracks of Greek music for the dancing. Oozo would flow like water as well. I remember when my wife and I were married my mother said no Oozo at the reception. I guess she didn t want any fist fights to break out between relatives. hehe ( there were plenty of those) The unks were all mopping around, so I stood in the middle of the dance floor and opened a good size bottle of Oozo. They sniffed it out in no time, and from then on the reception was a blast and we were one of the last to leave. My mom did forgive me for the Oozo incident That was close to 26 years ago We do know how to party! 786 Fri, Feb 14, 11:54AM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. I knew a Clarinetist who knew how to blow microtones (in between pitch) that was the toast of the Greek Wedding Circuit. Speaking of toast, I've had my share of Ouzo (Metaxas was my preferred brand) and man you want to talk about wild parties. Grapeleaves anyone? 787 Fri, Feb 14, 12:27AM EST JohnnieA My uncle used to make bathtub Oozo using my grandmothers old country recipe. We would then distribute gallon containers to the rest of the unks, including my dad. When they were all over to the house, they would sip this stuff all day long. You didn t dare light a match for the fumes would have blown up the living room! I could never acquire a taste for it. To this day my dad still is not happy about not having that recipe. My grandmother only gave it to one uncle and he s not talking .. Oh yeah, I forgot about the clarinet players. 788 Fri, Feb 14, 1:20PM EST big g Gang, I'm having major PayPal problems. I will let you know the outcome, if I ever get a friggin answer. 789 Sat, Feb 15, 12:00AM EST AzBug g: hope you can get it cleared up. i have never trusted paypal. NOTE: There is a Sansamp DI for sale on Bassgear.com. $130.00 Not a bad deal if it's in good shape. Look under Preamps.... JA: Doesn't 'Real, Home Country' Ouzo have opium in it? My bro-in-law is in the Navy and has some stories about his guys getting busted on Whizz-Quizzes (Pee test) for opium after every time they hit port in Greece. They never understood it; Otherwise, straight laced, good sailors getting busted. 790 Sun, Feb 16, 2:05PM EST old timer I know its off-topic for this place but , am I the only one that thinks George W. Fucking Bush is a First Class Asshole ? He is single-handedly alienating the whole world with his Cowboy Dickhead attitude . He's got me on the verge of being embaressed(sp?)for being an American . There , I feel better now . Thanks for the space to vent...It was really slow in here anyways . Now , back to NASCAR... 791 Sun, Feb 16, 6:27PM EST Luther ...and they say bakers are mellow guys with a lot of dough...LOL 792 Sun, Feb 16, 7:26PM EST big g old timer> I agree 101% He may lead us in to the last world war. >> Earnhart Jr. might have won if it went all the way. Mr. Viagra got 5th! Waltrip is a class act. 793 Mon, Feb 17, 9:56AM EST JohnnieA Az>>That would be the first time I heard that about Ouzo. All I remember is that the stuff my uncle distributed to the unks was 100+ proof, licorice tasting, clear lightening that they would sip all day long. When it was time to go home the aunts took the keys. Seems as soon as they hit the fresh air, it was all over. Later.......... 794 Mon, Feb 17, 11:44AM EST AzBug Mr. crimins: Update? How are things coming along? 795 Mon, Feb 17, 11:50AM EST crimins AzBug > coming along very well. I'll be out of work two more weeks, then back to the salt mines. I'll be back on the church P&W team this weekend. Went in this morning for some blood work to check some indicators to see if the cancer is all gone. I won't know the results of that until later next week. Thanks for asking. 796 Mon, Feb 17, 11:50AM EST AzBug JA: I'm pretty sure Ouzo was the culprit. Ouzo, Anisette, Sambuca, all licorice flavored stuff and, as Tony would say; "Tastes Grrrreat!" *LOL*...... OT/g; I'm throwin' my hat in with you guys. I believe in our political system, but I DEFINITELY don't believe in the bozos' that fill the slots. This oil cartel that the Bush family is simply the figurehead for could end up... well, I'm not going any further. 797 Mon, Feb 17, 11:52AM EST AzBug crimins: Very good. Very good. I take it it hasn't hit the lymph nodes? 798 Mon, Feb 17, 11:53AM EST AzBug OT: Re: Posting it in your local paper; did the KS sell? 799 Mon, Feb 17, 2:27PM EST old timer crimins....this old guy is still pulling for your recovery (total)! Az...still got it , you wouldn't believe some of the questions I've been getting . " What color is Natural AAA Flame Maple ?" , " Can I play chords on it like a REAL guitar ?", " What does Burner 5 mean ?" etc. etc. I just hang up on most of them....! 800 Mon, Feb 17, 4:54PM EST Mr.Bass Keeping this in the bass domain, in front of my glass slider I put my bass up to the door, and the snow comes up to the begining of the neck!!LOL..That's what boredom and being snowed in does to you! 801 Mon, Feb 17, 6:17PM EST Mr.Bass old timer...as long as you don't get a call asking if it's fuel injected, with dual carbs you are doing good, LOL! 802 Mon, Feb 17, 6:54PM EST old timer Mr. Bass...Right now an additional 24" are falling , on top of the 36" already on the ground . You GOTTA be right there too ! THAT'S after the temps being -7 degrees over the week-end ! I am really starting to climb the walls . I figure it's some kind of punishment for buying that new motorcycle last Sept. You guys in the warm weather states really feel bad...I just know it ! 803 Mon, Feb 17, 7:27PM EST AzBug Geez! 68F out back on the patio. Partly cloudy. Nice breeze cruising thru'. All windows open... :-) The doors are always open to the boys on this site! 804 Mon, Feb 17, 11:50PM EST Ernie Ball Greetings from Southern California-cloudy, a few showers, temps in the 50-60's ...brrrrrrrrr 805 Tue, Feb 18, 0:15AM EST Ernie Ball Seriously, stay warm back east-in the snow belts. 5 days ago, LA had an inch of rain per hour. 806 Tue, Feb 18, 4:56PM EST Mr.Bass Az...I may be taking a trip up to your neck of the woods with the wife celebrating our 20th anniversary next february, maybe we can hook up! It would sure beat shoveling! 807 Tue, Feb 18, 9:36PM EST no tips like "putting your bass strings in the snow overnight,,,,. ? I always use my Hammer bass on cold outdoor gigs. 808 Wed, Feb 19, 12:06AM EST big g Woohoo...Just won 2 tickets to a local blues show from our community TV station. Too easy of a question: What is the name of BB's guitar? FOTFL No Bubba, its not gibson. 809 Wed, Feb 19, 12:46AM EST Hey, good for you Lou. Seal those tics up tight! 810 Thu, Feb 20, 5:09PM EST M.B. Does Lucille have a sister? 811 Fri, Feb 21, 8:49AM EST big g M.B. Yes, shes an EB0 named Pearl. :o) 812 Fri, Feb 21, 2:00PM EST old timer And an uncle named EB3Red... 813 Sat, Feb 22, 11:38AM EST big g Guys and Gals (where is BB anyway?) I've decided to part with my 69 Sunn 2000S. $550 120 Watts all tube power. Buyer to pay shipping. 58+ lbs from 95666 zip. $50 discount to bass chat regs. If interested please e-mail me at rumblethump@yahoo.com. This is a classic amp I hate to part with, just my immediate circumstances needs cash flow. If you are looking for old school tone, you won't be dissapointed. 814 Sat, Feb 22, 12:03AM EST AzBug g!!! Sell, the car, the house, the wife, the kids, NOT the SUNN!!!! 815 Sun, Feb 23, 4:39AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Damnit G----I buy in with Azbug--Aint No Sunn Shine When She's Gone. Just kidding of course. I am truly sorry to hear that you need cash that badly. As one who parted w/a vast bass collection 18 months ago, my heart goes out to you, and I truly understand. I am currently selling one of my 3-prize posession bass bows in order to keep cash flow at a maximum. The day gig as a teacher is going well, and I'm back in a band that books good gigs, but the agent's got us on hold for another month. The old producer was a jerk, but I miss paid rehearsals-----Damned recession that the Government swears we're out of!!!! Speaking of which ....we're hearing two sayings from previous administrations. FDR---Prosperity is just around the corner (Sound Familiar?) Or the play on words for many of us older farts around here who may vaguely remember the Eisenhower years---"When the enemy attacks---Just duck tape and cover." 816 Sun, Feb 23, 7:35AM EST Luther big g...It's sad to hear someone else having to part with a piece of equipment they've had for many years. It's almost like a member of the family departing in a way. This, unfortunately, is an all too common occurance these days. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for selling my old Alembic a few years back. With the current world situation what it is, and our economy responding to it, there will probably be more people selling off things before it's all over. Like Bernie B said, there are the familiar pre-war credos being tossed around. Unlike the 40's however, our current war possiblility won't be able to pull us out of the recession as it did then since we're not a manufacture-driven economy like we were then. The only thing that's going to put an end to this recession is a new administration at the top or world peace, and I have a feeling that we'll see the former before the latter. I do seem to recall having bomb scare drills in school where we'd scurry under the desks and cover our heads, then have to recire where the closet fall-out shelters were. PS I finally talked PABass into buying a SansAmp Bass Driver DI. Like many of us, he can't understand how he got along without one for so long. 817 Sun, Feb 23, 4:07PM EST Archer Stanley Clarke special on BET was great, I don't know if they will run it again but there is a cd/vid. 818 Tue, Feb 25, 6:41PM EST Mr.Bass I really wanted to see that special, forgot all about it. Stanley was on the cover of Bass Player mag this month. Good feature, has new cd out, that guy is busy! Luther> I think the majority of the regs have that D.I. by now, def is in my gig bag! 819 Wed, Feb 26, 11:21AM EST AzBug Mr.Bass: Just got done setting up the second spare room for guests. I've got plenty of room. C'mon out! We're getting the biggest rain storm we've had in quite awhile right now. Plenty of snow up north which is good. It'll be our water supply in the Summer!... Luther: I'm with you on the govt. situation. This is gonna be one fine mess they need to get us out of.... The Sansamp nevers fails to amaze me. It's multitalented! I have been using it in the home studio for recording gu^%t#r tracks. I have one of those korean Paul Reed Smiths. I put vintage humbuckers in it and when I use a flange patch on the Boss SE70 and run it thru' the Sansamp the darn thing sounds exactly like Page's tone on the Rover. If I bypass the Sansamp it sounds like, well, Gerry playing a cheap korean made axe in his home studio! *LOL* 820 Wed, Feb 26, 12:06AM EST button Whose hands are these? 821 Wed, Feb 26, 6:17PM EST big g Good interview. 822 Thu, Feb 27, 8:58PM EST Skiball Howdy Folks! Just makining my bi-monthly check in. Crimm>> T's andP's to ya brudda. Im sure all willbe fine. Get a hold of me next time youre down this way. We could throw down some bbq and rumble the dust from my garage. 823 Fri, Feb 28, 4:51PM EST crimins Thanks, Ski. I'm doing very well. I'm released to go back to work Monday, but don't know when I'll be back in the O-Town area yet. 824 Sat, Mar 1, 0:17AM EST . . . . Wed, Feb 26, 12:06AM EST button Whose hands are these? Never mind who it is what is the scale of that bass he is playing 825 Sat, Mar 1, 2:59AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. ----I think it's an F# half diminished 826 Sat, Mar 1, 4:03PM EST i think its for midgets 827 Sat, Mar 1, 9:41PM EST bassman you guys crack me up 828 Mon, Mar 3, 9:26AM EST big g Lots of interest, but no buyers for the Sunn. I'm trying another approach. Like new SWR Workingman 300. This has been my backup amp. Used maybe 50 hrs. Output: 160 Watts @ 8 Ohms, 270 Watts @ 4 Ohms, 350 Watts @ 2.6 Ohms. Like new 4 space SKB rack included. Made in USA. Buyer to pay actual shipping costs. PayPal accepted or USPS money order. Tuner out,effects blend, Aural Enhancer, 5 band Graphic EQ. Pictures available for serious buyers. $300 if you don't want the rack. If interested E-mail me at rumblethump@yahoo.com TIA 829 Tue, Mar 4, 9:26AM EST soul hammer 830 Tue, Mar 4, 4:18PM EST old timer While we're on the subject of selling , I get a call yesterday asking " Is the Trace-Elliot dual comp a 4 or 5 string ? "...! Same thing with the DOD BassTech " Is that a computer program for playing Bass ? " What the hell happened to Bass Players ? Are there any people out there that even know the difference ? I'm getting mighty dissapointed with the future low-enders . I hope they end up playing GUITARS !....And listening to DISCO ! 831 Tue, Mar 4, 4:20PM EST old timer Just another rant from the old guy...this winter got the best of me ! 832 Tue, Mar 4, 4:44PM EST AzBug OT: I can relate to your rant, most definitely.... JohnnieA; Ya' gotta check this out... button Sheesh! Didn't realize the address was THAT long! Lemme know what you think ofthis one... 833 Tue, Mar 4, 11:17PM EST red dog An Indian walks into a cafe with a shotgun in one hand and a bucket of buffalo manure in the other. He says to the waiter, "Me want coffee". The waiter says "Sure chief, coming right up." He gets the Indian a tall mug of coffee, and the Indian drinks it down in one gulp, picks up the bucket of manure, throws it into the air, blasts it with the shotgun, then just walks out. The next morning the Indian returns. He has his shotgun in one hand and a bucket of manure in the other. He walks up to the counter and says to the waiter, "Me want coffee". The waiter says, "Whoa, Tonta, we're still cleaning up the mess from the last time you were here. What the heck was all that about, anyway? Me in training for upper management position. Come in, drink coffee, shoot the shit, and disappear for the rest of the day. 834 Thu, Mar 6, 11:38AM EST JohnnieA AZ>> Holy Cow!, yet another moveable pickup design! I suppose if you just looked at the moveable area and not the rest of the bass you might think this design rather simplistic and non-linear. I my opinion, the Wiper of the Viper utilizes different sections of the pickup coil depending on where the wiper is located, and will produce a non-linear tone throughout the movement. Not to mention no tone blending capabilities or position recall functionality on the fly . You still have to stop and perform a manual intervention for a instrument personality change. It s still interesting to me that most of the comments where on the basses overall appearance and not the innovation section (the wiper). Just goes to show that the kids who were checking this bass out are still very traditionalist in their thinking, form over functionality. Thanks for the turn-on. It's good to see some folks are still into thinking of new ideas and innovations for the bass, and not just wood, style and finish. 835 Thu, Mar 6, 12:34AM EST AzBug JA: Definitely thought of you when I saw that thread. Glad you were able to check it out. Hey, have you met Steve Barr yet? He's a pretty involved vintage guitar guy that just moved to the Valley. He had a store in Central Cal, but had to close it up and move out here on a family emergency. He might be a source for you to look into? He runs a board that you might want to check out if you haven't already? Check out button 836 Thu, Mar 6, 12:55AM EST JohnnieA AZ>> No, I haven't met Steve as yey, but have read alot of his posts on the newsgroups and looked at his NAMM pics over the years. Where is he located? Tempe would be my guess, close to the Bass Place.... Does he have plans for another store here in Az.? 837 Thu, Mar 6, 1:17PM EST AzBug JA: No, actually he's much closer to you way on over there... His elderly father suffered a stroke, so he came out here to take care of him. They're out there in Del Webb-ville. Sun City West? Something like that. Currently, he's strictly and online dealer. I think his long term plans have him going back to Cali. I don't think he will open up a storefront out here. I don't get that impression, anyway. 838 Thu, Mar 6, 3:14PM EST JohnnieA AZ>> No, I haven't met Steve as yey, but have read alot of his posts on the newsgroups and looked at his NAMM pics over the years. Where is he located? Tempe would be my guess, close to the Bass Place.... Does he have plans for another store here in Az.? 839 Thu, Mar 6, 3:46PM EST Sandra DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT VINTAGE CONRAD BASS GUITARS? I was given a Conrad Bass guiter along time ago. The guy who gave it to me said it was his grandfathers. The serial number is 0056133. It looks like a violin. I do not know the model or the year it was made. That is what i need to know. I have to see if I can find some replacement peices if anyones knows please e~mail me @ Bluewolf99@hotmail.com or just send a chat message thanks =) 840 Thu, Mar 6, 3:47PM EST Sandra DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT VINTAGE CONRAD BASS GUITARS? I was given a Conrad Bass guiter along time ago. The guy who gave it to me said it was his grandfathers. The serial number is 0056133. It looks like a violin. I do not know the model or the year it was made. That is what i need to know. I have to see if I can find some replacement peices if anyones knows please e~mail me @ Bluewolf99@hotmail.com or just send a chat message thanks =) 841 Thu, Mar 6, 3:47PM EST Sandra ahh sorry for the spam 842 Thu, Mar 6, 3:47PM EST JohnnieA ooops, sorry for the extra double post. Got a new wiz bang laptop pc and I'm still dialing this fine chunk of hardware in. Yeah, my dad lives out in Sun City which is only about a 10 min. ride from my home. Seems if he is that close we should be able to hook up. Maybe he drops into this chat now and again. Steve, are you out there?? 843 Thu, Mar 6, 3:57PM EST JohnnieA Sandra>> You might lok at this page for your Conrad. button 844 Thu, Mar 6, 3:58PM EST JohnnieA ahhhhh that's *look* not lok.. 845 Thu, Mar 6, 11:39PM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Conrad's were built by Tokai, who has been building electrics in Japan since 1947. Though not recognized for their basses, their Strat copies, especially those labelled "Springy Sound" on the headstock were good enough to get the company sued. Stevie Ray Vaughn played one. Later on, after the lawsuit, they went on to build a rather wild lookig George Jetson kind of Strat called the Talbo. It features an aluminum body that sustains beyond all belief, and the tremolo system is the same legendary "Springy Sound". These things scream. They are a quality company, and they do build a weird George Jetson type Talbo bass. I have not yet seen a 5-string version, but if they could do it w/a 35" scale it might prove very interesting. Great Guitars though. 846 Fri, Mar 7, 1:11PM EST old timer Reminds me of the ' old days ' of shopping for basses in hock shops...some of the basses were literally out of this world ! Strange names , strange shapes and even stranger sounds . Still got my Howard from 1962 . State of the Art for $45. Hock Shop Bass...ahh the good old days.... 847 Sat, Mar 8, 5:38PM EST We are an established soulful rock group looking for a bass player w/backing vocal abilities. We are releasing our first full length cd thru an indie label in April with many gigs and promotions to follow. You must have great chops and hopefully good vocal abilities to sing harmonies. Have good image and stage presence. Dedication and ambition is also a must. Visit us at www.damnglad.com and respond thru our website or thru this post. 848 Sun, Mar 9, 11:28PM EST anonymous Does it matter if I Live in China? 849 Sat, Mar 15, 9:51AM EST big g It looks like the chat took a little vacation. Good to see it back up running. Thanks for your efforts bassman!! 850 Sat, Mar 15, 11:39AM EST lowlifer Big G, you didn't get washed away. 8>) Man the wind was howling last night. 851 Sat, Mar 15, 1:37PM EST anonymous1000 anon...where do you live in China ? 852 Mon, Mar 17, 5:49PM EST Test 853 Mon, Mar 17, 5:54PM EST old timer We Back... 854 Tue, Mar 18, 1:48PM EST anonymous1000 Hello(hello,hello)...is there anybody in there...just nod if you can hear me... 855 Tue, Mar 18, 2:03PM EST big g anon1000>what a coincidense, I just watched the Who's live performance of Tommy with a drummer friend saturday. Thunder fingers was awesome. Townsend is still my favorite rhythm 6 stringer. THE father of power chords. Anyone care to check in on what they are doing musically right now? I've been jamming with a real good drummer. The more we practice the more we think we ought just be a duo. LOL My next gig is Easter at church. 856 Wed, Mar 19, 12:49AM EST anonymous1000 Sorry G...That's Pink Floyd...you're thinking of " Tommy can you hear me ? " It's really tough getting old , the memory is the second thing to go....! 857 Wed, Mar 19, 2:55PM EST Mr.Bass Thanks Bassman, I was getting Bass Chat withdrawal symptoms. big g> When you hook up with a great drummer it's an incredible groove you can get going on. As far as my band goes we have hit a dry spell as far as gigs. It's given me more opportunity to do some recording for friends and my own little projects. I never thought I would be so into it, it's another world. In the studio you really have to watch your attack and bad habits will come out in the digital domain. I was recording a guy that had like a lazy hand and he would hit the acoustic guitar body with a thwack everytime he soloed so all you hear is this thud instead of a note. That was a real pain to get him to stop doing that. 858 Wed, Mar 19, 6:42PM EST Luther big g...What's new? hmmmm, let's see...working so much I've actually had to turn down jobs. Mid-week jobs at that. I seem to always say that I'll slow it down and spend more time at home, but "just when I think I'm out...they pull me back in!" The gigs range from R&B/Dance stuff to jazz and bluegrass to Grateful Dead tribute/jam band stuff. I'm even doing a P&W gig (very rare for me). I seriously hoping to clear my slate and get one steady gig. So far I've been able to wake up for my day job, but I'm running out of steam as time marches on. OT...send me an e-mail. I lost your address recently. Hope all is well with the rest of you. At 8:00 PM EST we shoud know a thing or two about the situation in Iraq. 859 Wed, Mar 19, 8:25PM EST crimins Hello all. I've got something cooking with my old high school pal and former bandmates Barry Lee Harwood and Derek Hess, formerly of the Rossington Collins band. We may be cooking something up and are getting together this Saturday to jam around on some of Barry's new stuf to see how things work. Here is Barry's site button I get an honorable mention on the Chariot page. Look for Eddie Criminger. I'll kepp you posted on any progress with this project. 860 Wed, Mar 19, 9:37PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Congrats Crimins---That sounds like it could really be a great gig, or even more. How well I remember those bands, and the old Southern Rock Sound. Kinda ran parallel w/what they were calling progressive country at the time, which allowed bands like The Eagles, and Pure Prairie League to straddle the fence. I hope it works out for you. Congrats to you too Luther. I had to turn down a gig recently because it was a four nights a week salary gig. I couldn't have done it justice and maintained the day gig simultaneously--though it was exceptionall tempting. In the mean time the band I left six-months ago kept the singer and guitar player who I always got along well with, and canned the drummer and producer. Manager remains intact and I like hiom too. They called because they were on the cusp of putting it all together on the ball room sized circuit when their bass player walked. Guess who got first call? We'll be doing a homeless benefit in two weeks with coverage by a local radio station, and will be sandwiching that between two ballroom gigs, so that weekend's going to be a real work horse. From there we'll be doing the agent thing, and hoping to take off running just when school lets out--thus preserving my day job. Have also been getting lots of calls to start teaching URB again. Peace-Love-and good music to all. 861 Wed, Mar 19, 9:55PM EST big g Oops, yes, memory is the first to go. I stand corrected. crimins>great news! 862 Thu, Mar 20, 5:17PM EST AzBug YOWZA! You boys are some giggin' fools! :-) It's awesome to hear that you all are doing so well..... Mr.Bass: The last band I played in had an acoustic guitarist that liked to thump on his guitar with his right hand as he played. A couple years back, when I used to hang out at the coffee houses I noticed a lot of the solo players did the same thing. I figured out it was most likely a "One-Man-Band" type thing. They add percussion to their tunes, in a sense. Anyway, when the band was recording the last CD the producer used this guys thumping playing style to his advantage. With serious EQ'ing and proper placement in the mix he used it to add a percussive sound to the song. It was really kinda cool. May, or may not work for you? 863 Sat, Mar 22, 8:32AM EST Luther Bernie B...you brought up some bands I haven't listened to since I last heard them on my leather bound transistor radio. AM radio never did them justice. I recently broke out some old vinyl from that era, Little River Band, Jerry Raferty, Cristopher Cross, 10cc, Atlanta Rhythm Section, Alan Parsons, Mark Almond, Dr. Hook, and many other pop gems from those days. I must admit to also having a copy of Rupert Holmes' Escape (pina colada song) on 45, but I can't bring myself around to playing it. The needle on my old turntable would probably die after that one. I bet you can download them from Kazaa or one of those napster-like sites. The song "Cool Change" by Little River Band was always one of my guilty pleasures. 864 Sat, Mar 22, 11:02AM EST big g On breaking out the vinyl. Just listened to Sly Stones Greatest Hits, Larrys da man! 865 Sat, Mar 22, 11:26AM EST crimins Speaking of breaking out the vinyl, in reference to my previous post (just a few up), and in preparation for getting together with my old band mates, I know we'll be playing Crossroads. Wheels of Firs is on the truntable right now. Big G> you're right about Larry. That's a great album. 866 Sat, Mar 22, 11:27AM EST crimins well, that should be "turntable". 867 Sat, Mar 22, 11:27AM EST crimins and that should have been Wheels of FIRE. Too early to type this morining. 868 Sat, Mar 22, 12:21AM EST big g Luther, another group I liked from that period was the Ozark Mountain Daredevils. At their live show, they all changed instruments on almost every song, and sounding exactly like their album. Mighty impressive. 869 Sat, Mar 22, 2:23PM EST Luther Wow...the Ozark Mountain Daredevils!!!!!!!!!! I have some K-tel compilation somewhere with them on it. Haven't heard that name in a while. I believe the LP was called "Dyno-mite" or something like that. It probably had "Muhammed Ali(Black Superman)" and "Put You Hand In the Hand of the Man..." by Ocean on it too, LOL. 870 Sun, Mar 23, 11:33AM EST big g Pretty funny.... button NCI 871 Mon, Mar 24, 7:11AM EST old timer Good one G , even though I PERSONALLY think GW is the world's biggest AssHole , I'm 110 percent behind OUR troops . Sorry to go off topic again but just got done watching the news and seeing the way those Iraqi's are treating our guys , Burns My Ass ! 872 Mon, Mar 24, 11:25AM EST big g button When researching the optimum antenna length for my wireless receiver, Shure sent me this site. Incredible resource for all types of calculators. OT>I agree with you about George. I hope for a swift and decisive victory to keep our loss of troups to a minimum. 873 Mon, Mar 24, 9:55PM EST Mr.Bass Az> That sounds like a great idea taking advantage of that rhythm and using it to accentuate, but this guy was way off beat and it would be immpossible to do, but thanks! That Ozark bands name reminded of the band Black Oak Arkansas, what ever happened to those guys? I know Tommy Aldridge is still playing. 874 Mon, Mar 24, 10:12PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Black Oak Arkansas tried a recent comeback about two years ago. They recruited a local guitar player from here, Rocky Athos, to help get rolling again. I don't think the tour took, but at least they tried. Though never a fan of theirs, I give credit to anyone trying to ressurect a career. 875 Tue, Mar 25, 2:52PM EST AzBug Hey! Jim Dandy to the rescue! Cool tune. I believe this was the first band an incredible rock n roll drummer made his big break in, Tommy Aldridge? Check this out, pretty funny. I'm a huge Python fan; Other Axis of Evil Wannabees by John Cleese Bitter after being snubbed for membership in the "Axis of Evil", Libya, China and Syria today announced that they had formed the "Axis of Just as Evil", which they said would be more evil than that stupid Iran-Iraq-North Korea axis President Bush warned of in his State of the Union address. Axis of Evil members, however, immediately dismissed the new Axis as having, for starters, a really dumb name. "Right. They are just as evil . . . in their dreams!" declared North Korean leader Kim Jong-il. "Everybody knows we're the best evils . . . best at being evil . . . we're the best." Diplomats from Syria denied they were jealous over being excluded, although they conceded they did ask if they could join the Axis of Evil. "They told us it was full," said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. "An axis can't have more than three counties", explained Iraqi President Saddam Hussien. "This is not my rule, it's tradition. In World War II you had Germany, Italy, and Japan in the evil Axis. So, you can only have three, and a secret handshake. Ours is wickedly cool." International reaction to Bush's Axis of Evil declaration was swift, as within minutes, France surrendered. Elsewhere, peer-conscious nations rushed to gain triumvirate status in what has become a game of geopolitical chairs. Cuba, Sudan and Serbia announced that they had formed the "Axis of Somewhat Evil", forcing Somalia to join with Uganda and Myanmar in the "Axis of Occasionally Evil", while Bulgaria, Indonesia and Russia established the "Axis of Not So Much Evil Really as Just Generally Disagreeable". With the criteria suddenly expanded and all the desirable clubs filling up, Sierra Leone, El Salvador, and Rwanda applied to be called the "Axis of Countries That Aren't the Worst But Certainly Won't Be Asked to Host the Olympics". Canada, Mexico and Australia formed the "Axis of Nations That Are Actually Quite Nice But Secretly Have Some Nasty Thoughts About America", while Scotland, New Zealand and Spain established the "Axis of Countries That Want Sheep to Wear Lipstick". "That's not a threat, really, just something we like to do", said Scottish Executive First Minister Jack McConnell. While wondering if the other nations of the world weren't perhaps making fun of him, a cautious Bush granted approval for most axes, although he rejected the establishment of the "Axis of Counties Whose Names End in 'Guay", accusing one of its members of filing a false application. Officials from Paraguay, Uruguay, and Chadguay denied the charges. Israel, meanwhile, insisted it didn't want to join any Axis, but privately world leaders said that's only because no one asked them. 876 Wed, Mar 26, 0:26AM EST AATS Hey AzBug, you sure you have that name right? I thought they were ASSES of Evil? 877 Wed, Mar 26, 10:29AM EST AzBug AATS: *LOL* You could be right. Asses may be a better word, but I can't take the credit for writing it. It was written by John Cleese, of Monty Python fame. Wish I had 10% of the wit to write something like it! :) 878 Wed, Mar 26, 11:39AM EST big g Anyone spot an April Fools joke in this months BP? Maybe the joke is there aren't any? 879 Wed, Mar 26, 12:53AM EST AzBug Ebay question; Okay, I'm bidding on this beautiful Fender Jazz FMT5. My bid carries to about 2 hours before the auction ends. A guy with really bad feedback outbids me. Here's the question; If the seller hasn't stated that he won't accept bids from people with bad, or no feedback can he still refuse the sale to the guy and give it to me, the next highest bidder? Some dude with great feedback came in and won auction with 5 minutes left anyway, so this one's a goner, but I was just wondering if that could happen? Is he obligated to try and carry out the transaction to the dude with the bad feedback? 880 Wed, Mar 26, 6:31PM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Az--Technically yes-if he does not specify w/in the description---However--(here's one for the lawyers)- you can cancel a bid, as long as you state why. I had a real jerk bid on a piece of equipment once, and several people e-mailed me to tell me what a jerk this guy was. I e-mailed said jerk, and expressed my concerns while letting him know that I had received e-mails from people he had stiffed before. He wrote back saying it was his prerogative to stiff people because, "all you e bay geeks take this auction stuff too seriously, but you can cancel my bid if you want to." Believe me--I cancelled his bid. No problems or effects on my feedback. None-the-less, e bay remains both a buyer&seller beware type of deal. 881 Wed, Mar 26, 8:46PM EST Mr.Bass big g> Maybe it's that Making Money Making Music book..LOL...only kidding...It's got to be that Flo Pro Lisa on page 42 take a look at that... shoegazer!! 882 Thu, Mar 27, 9:52AM EST big g Az, I saw that bass, its a shame you didn't get it. A follow up on my paypal problem: Finally paypal refunded most of my money less about $80 in fees they charged the seller before they got around to the refund. I still have my CC company going after the balance. Beware, do not use PayPal for any type of prepay auction. A prepay auction is one where the seller gets your money then orders the product and forwards it to you at a later date. Its been going on over 60 days and still I haven't been completely refunded. Paypal got its money. 883 Thu, Mar 27, 1:10PM EST big g Mr.Bass>Ah yes the Flo Pro, I did see it. Very funny. 884 Thu, Mar 27, 1:19PM EST old timer Speaking of PayPal , I never had my credit card # ripped off and used until I joined PayPal , maybe just a coincidence , maybe not . First bogus charge was to EBAY who just happens to own PayPal...Cancelled CC , cancelled PayPal ! I guess thats what they make money orders for . 885 Thu, Mar 27, 3:16PM EST lowlifer I have one credit card I use for internet purchases and only use that one card for those. That way if i do get the card ripped off I only have to deal with the one company. 886 Thu, Mar 27, 7:00PM EST Mr.Bass lowlifer>I do that exact same thing, so if theres a problem you know where to look! 887 Fri, Mar 28, 10:12AM EST big g Deal of the day button 1 hr 15 minutes left. 888 Fri, Mar 28, 10:17AM EST big g DOTD II button 889 Fri, Apr 11, 7:21PM EST old timer YYEEEHHAAARRR....WE BE BACK ! Bassman , I think we should nominate you for sainthood , or at least for the presidency(sp)! 890 Fri, Apr 11, 7:23PM EST old timer Luther , I think I finally found a situation to play in... Maybe even cut the herd loose ! Stay tuned . 891 Fri, Apr 11, 8:35PM EST Mr.Bass Wow...I didn't expect it to work...glad to be back here, thanks Bassman. On doing favors>....I am recording a singer who asked his friends to help him out with a few tunes, he after all offered his services for them for 2 weeks doing thier solo CD. His gui$$$ist, says hey I am only coming over here for one night, so lets get this right. I am so glad I play bass...LOL! 892 Sat, Apr 12, 1:10AM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Glad we're back. Bassman needs to change his moniker to 'DA MAN!!! Did the workhorse weekend last week. Ballroom gig on Friday night, Benefit for the homeless and the ASPCA Saturday afternoon, then back to the ballroom Saturday night. We are welcome back anytime, and we helped raise a lotta cash for people, cats, and dogs that all need to find a good home. This really paid off beter than any ten weeks of rehearsals I've ever experienced, and now we are firming up four originals for the studio. Should be laying down the first tracks to the CD in the first week of June. Working off of some mediocre scratch tracks for now in order to get the arrangements tight, and the kicks , etc. polished. Can't afford to waste studio time---Too expensive. Looking forward to letting you guys know how it all turns out. For now it looks like I'll be playing URB and Electric w/an equal number of cuts on each. Peace, good music, and love to all. 893 Sat, Apr 12, 2:55AM EST Luther OT...tell me more! Send me an e-mail so we don't tie up the caht room now that it's back in action. 894 Sat, Apr 12, 10:58AM EST Mr.Bass Hey Bernie..That's what keeps ya young gigging like that! Keep Rockin! The tighter your band is going in the studio the better off you are. We wanted to do a demo, before I had my studio together. We rehearsed the songs as a condensed version Intro -verse-chorus- solo, out. The engineer said no one has come in here and was able to do that...money was tight, so we did it. 895 Sat, Apr 12, 1:36PM EST big g bassman> thanks for all your efforts. I was just putting together a mailing list of all the addys I have. Levite, bassbitch, are you out there?? We miss you. 896 Mon, Apr 14, 1:13AM EST anonymous would like to get opinions on the aguilar db750. from studio gigs, casual and corporate gigs, to loud rock bands. what kind of cabs are you using with it? curious for some honest feedback. . . . 897 Mon, Apr 14, 9:31AM EST big g Anon>Doesn't Aguilar make their own brand cabs?? 898 Mon, Apr 14, 2:29PM EST AzBug anon: I have a DB659 Preamp which is, essentially, the front end for the 750. I use all eden cabinets for live apps. I have used them in conjunction with an Ampeg SVP Pro III, an Alembic F1X (with and with the SF2)an Eden WT400, and a Sansamp Pre/D.I. The Aguilar is incredibly warm. Very similar to the Ampeg, maybe a little less noise. I like using it with my EUB. That and my 2x10 + 1x15 Eden cabs makes me a VERY happy little bass player. I use a Crest VS900 to power the cabs. The DB750 is the latest thing that all who like Aguilar want to get their hands on. VERY expensive! 899 Mon, Apr 14, 2:30PM EST AzBug Mr.Bass; have you seen what these are going for these days??? Finally put up a decent pic of mine;.......... button ........... Do you still have yours? 900 Mon, Apr 14, 5:30PM EST Mr.Bass Az> Man, you have a good memory. Those are some sweet basses. I can tell you take great care with your equipment. Yes, I still have mine, I have it hanging on the wall in my office. Mine is the darker stained Koa Eagle. I love the neck on that bass, real easy to get around on don't ya think? 901 Mon, Apr 14, 9:53PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. "He's the most viscious electric bass I've evah seen......And he's got huge sharp teeth." Now if they'd only call them Antioch Cabinets, w/a special Holy Hand Grenade model we'd be talking some seriously explosive basslines. Perfect for those house band gigs at The Castle AAAAH! By the way, didn't they make a model called The Swallow? I just can't remember whether it was African or European. ----All kidding aside AZ--that is one FINE LOOKING AXE. Brings back memories of a once incredible collection I sold off last year to help finance the career change. Congrats!!! Don't let that baby slip away if you can help it. B.C. Rich did build a superior axe at one time. 902 Tue, Apr 15, 12:31AM EST AzBug Mr.Bass: I have a good 'selective' memory. I remember GREAT basses! :-)I also remember you taking about your bass cuz' I REALLY wanted that Koa model, instead. I was just a kid at the time and had no idea it was available. I just saw that Daryl Jones is selling his '79 Koa Eagle for $950. He just listed a WHOLE bunch of basses he is selling. Check it out if you'd like? button ....... I LOVE the neck on these basses. It starts out nice and skinny just like a Jazz and, unlike the Jazz that graduates out as you go up the neck, this puppy stays skinny all the way up. I agree with you, they play like BUTTAH!.... Bernie: I'm with you, again, on this one. I've had this pup since it came off the bench and will be holding onto it. It came with a custom fitted Anvil Flight Case, so it stays good and safe when I don't have it out. I guess you can still get them to make you one, but they're over priced. Thanks! 903 Tue, Apr 15, 1:04PM EST old timer Daryl's got a nice collection there but , I'll give him a run for his money...all I gotta' do is figure out how to post a picture...duh ! 904 Tue, Apr 15, 8:01PM EST Mr.Bass Take another look at that pic.... Even the couch color goes with all those basses!! LOL! 905 Tue, Apr 15, 9:48PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. At the risk of sounding like a Bass Mag Ad- I have to sing the praises of the Roland DB -700 one more time. We played the ball room gigs and people kept coming up and asking me how I was getting the tone I was getting. Kudo's again to the Lakland, with Kudo's again to the beef on my fingers. Even though we have a Cromagnon drummer, I was never in any danger of being drowned out, and that was w/ the bass @ 60% volume, and the amp's master volume at 3. This last weekend we layed down some scratch tracks on an old TEAC Tascam (remember those) and the DI line helped me come off crystal clear. The lows were chest thumpers w/out a lot of boominess, and the highs were clear w/out any brittleness. If the CD does even moderately well, I may be brave enough to approach these guys for endorsements, but right now I'm just happy to have such fine tools to work with. If I ever get the craze to post some pictures of the old collection, I would like you guys to see all the basses and amps I have been able to replace w/these two pieces. It's unbelieveable. If the CD were to really take off (fat chance) I'd hit Daimler Chrysler up for a new P.T. 906 Wed, Apr 16, 1:45AM EST Mr.Bass Hey Bernie, that's a great feeling when you get a sound from your gear that people appreciate. I have to check out that Roland. That only happened to me three times in 35 years! Tough crowd in CT and NY. These guys have heard everything. Once was with my ole Rick and SVT, and twice with a Spector and Trace Elliot. With the latter, I remember a drummer from a very popular band in CT brought his bass player to hear my setup. That was a great compliment. Wish you the best of luck with that CD..ya never know! 907 Wed, Apr 16, 9:11PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Mr. Bass>Thanks for the encouragement. I strongly encourage you to try one of these babies out. The only word of warning I can give you is that the factory tone settings SUCK!!!!!!!!---Read my reviews to find out how to tweak the tones via mid-range...I'm on Harmony Central and E-Pinions. If you like what you hear from these realize that SAM ASH is blowing these out of some old Mars Music inventory or something for only $699.00........Then hit up your local Guitar Center since they promise to match anyone's price. I had to print it off of my computer, but when they saw it they matched it. Once you've got the tones you like set up, committing them to Memory A and Memory B is cake. Thanks for your encouragement. People down here can be tough on tone too. Keep in mind that Chuck "The Rain Man" Rainey is a local act. We also used to be jingle captitol of the world (not so much anymore, but not so long ago) and there are more real players floating around down here then one would ever think. Sometimes you just never know how big the person praising or dissing your playing really is.---Thanks again too Az. I still use the Paracoustic DI between my URB and the Roland. 908 Thu, Apr 17, 2:59PM EST AzBug Bernie: Glad you're still getting good mileage outta that Paracoustic. Speaking of that, here is the EUB that puts most of the mileage on my Paracoustic (finally took some pix!); button 909 Sun, Apr 20, 11:59AM EST Mr.Bass Happy Easter and Happy Holidays to all my bass brothers! 910 Sun, Apr 20, 12:17AM EST Skiball Happy Easter bunnies brothers!! Rejoice!!! 911 Mon, Apr 21, 5:21PM EST anonymous button 912 Tue, Apr 22, 3:44PM EST Bass C Hey I am looking for a new bass and I wanted to know you all opinions on the IbanezSR 3006e 913 Tue, Apr 22, 7:00PM EST anonymous1000 Bass C...do you like it ? Who's money are you going to buy it with ? Anymore questions ? 914 Tue, Apr 22, 8:42PM EST Mr.Bass I think what anon is getting at is...if the bass feels right to you and it has a comfortable neck and you dig the sound..no one here can tell you it's the wrong bass..I don't have any Ibanez basses but I have heard good things about them from the players I know that have one, check out other basses in the same price range for comparison, G&L have some nice ones, as do Carvin. Good Luck! 915 Tue, Apr 22, 11:09PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. At the risk of sounding like a bass magazine add---Try a Lakland. Lakland's have a wider fingerboard than Ibanez basses, but they are incredibly good. If, however, you like the pencil thin feel of an Ibanez neck (I've owned 'em, and loved 'em, but because I play Upright as well, I needed the wider fingerboard of a Lakland/G&L/ or Fender to avoid too drastic of a change between instruments) I'd say go for the Ibanez. Like anon says----Whose hands have to play it? and Whose money is going to buy it. Best of Luck!!!!! 916 Wed, Apr 23, 3:59PM EST AzBug Got a new one for you guys to try out if you get the chance; I played and was blown away by the new korean made Elrick. 5 string ash body, maple neck, some kinda rosewood, or darker grained fretboard. Bart MK1 soapbars. The one I played had a $695 sticker. Might be able to be had for $600-650? Although, a little heavy (large body) this bass was as warm as warm can be. I was impressed beyond what I ever expected to be. No! I am not an Elrick salesman! *LOL* I was simply impressed, much like I was for the Lakland Skyline series, that such a nice bass could be had for a decent, below the clouds price. I would like to hear any of your comments if you get the chance to play one. 917 Wed, Apr 23, 7:46PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Azbug> Personally I can't wait to try one. I have coveted an Elrick for years since I first saw them come out about four years ago. Now maybe I can afford one. Here's another kicker on the Korean Front---G&L has a new line--Tribute. The electronics are supposed to be superior since the pickups are American Made G&L pickups. If that's true, these babies could be $650.00 hot rods. They're the usual G&L model line, i.e., L-2500 is a five-stringer w/2 pickups, but they are sporting the Tribute Monniker. If anyone tries one of these let me know. My Lakland Skyline is putting in lots of hours, and I might want to look into the Elrick, and or Tribute L-2500 as good back up. 918 Thu, Apr 24, 12:49AM EST AzBug Bernie: I haven't played a Tribute, but here is a "Street-Level" review posted on an G&L Bass forum (at the dudepit); I got to check out a Tribute L2K today. I sometimes play with a group of folks that includes the regional G&L rep (he also reps other stuff like Dean, Zildijan, and more). Tonight he brought a couple of Dean guitars for the guitarists to check out and a Tribute L2K for me to try (he plays drums with us). It had a nice metallic red finish (looked very good) which makes it the low-end model with basswood under there. The neck felt very nice as far as finish (I like the satin G&L finish) and would have been very comfortable if I could still deal with the wider neck (so I didn't play it a lot). The controls were the usual, although the switches were oriented up-and-down where my US L2Ks were always front-to-back which caused a little cognitive dissonance. It was pretty light and comfortable on the strap and the hardware looked good and solid, if not exactly like the US hardware (tuners were the biggest difference). The action was low and the overall finish quality seemed very good. Overall I thought it was a little less "lively" than my US L2Ks have been but I think that may be a basswood thing. I'd like to try one of the premiums with swamp ash at some point in time. I was fairly impressed with it and from that one example think that the Tributes are going to be a good thing. 919 Thu, Apr 24, 3:49PM EST AzBug Hey Fellas', I know I've been writing books here, lately. So, what else is new?!?!!?*LOL* But, I just found this and laffed my arse off. Have you all seen Spinal Tap? Harry Shearer plays the Bassist in the band the movie is about. If you haven't seen it, well, get it and watch it!......"E.C.: What should the role of a bass player be in a rock and roll band?...... Derek Smalls: Musically, it should be to...uh, you're the foundation. I don't know if you know anything about building? But, if you build a great building...build the Taj Ma-bloody Hal, and you don't have a foundation ...a good, strong foundation...basically you've got a piece of ****. It may look like the Taj Mahal, but its gonna tumble down to a pile of rubble in a few years. So, what you need is a good strong foundation, in fact the bass. That's what the bass player does, he builds the foundation. You can have all sorts of poncy architects walking around doin' what they want to above ground, but it's the bass that gives them the ability to, you know...it FREES up Nigel Tufnel towering solos of musical architecture on top. The bass is the foundation, the drums are your rhythmic pulse. The bass is REALLY the foundation, and without it, the musical building will tumble into a pile of rubble in weeks. In terms of personal dynamics, that really depends on the band. There are some bands where the bass player disappears entirely. In our band it was always my job to really...be a facilitator...a connective tissue. Basically a bundle of fiber that would connect one nerve center of the band to the other. So, basically I was a musical ganglion." 920 Sat, Apr 26, 0:44AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. From one author to another----don't apologize for writing books. We disseminate a lot of knowledge on this site, which is what makes it so viable, and sometimes even popular. You may recall about 8 months ago or so someone flamed me for my novels, only to have 5 or 6 people come back and say----"Don't stop till we've squeezed every bit of knowledge we can from your brain cells." Well---gotta go--gig tomorrow--couple of producers coming to look. We'll see if they're the real Deal, or the dime store idiots that seem to be poppoing up out of the woodwork here lately. Do any of you guys have that problem yet. These phonies are a pain in the @$$. Your comments are welcome---especially if we can stir things up into some more extended conversations. 921 Mon, Apr 28, 12:25AM EST JohnnieA Hello all! Hope everyone had a great Easter. Last time I attempted to get in here, I couldn t get in guest the chat was down for quite a while. Anyway, this past weekend was the annual Glendale (AZ) Jazz and Blues festival. Saw a ton of local talent including a band called Turning Point. What a great band.. It s been a long time since I ve seen and heard a drummer who was actually a real percussionist. This guy played with two sticks in his left hand and manned the percussion pieces with his right. His style was and ability was amazing. The guitar player was simply awesome as was the keybd. player. Bass player had a very good stage presence, but (in my opinion), lacked imagination for a Jazz band. Mostly a root player through his Fender 5 and Fender amp with 2-10s and a horn. All in all, the event was a blast. On another note, I will be selling a couple of my ergonomic basses and possibly the sss 5-string here in the near future if anyone is interested. Catch ya later . AZ, did you make it to the Glendale thing this year? Was Friday through Sunday at Murphy Park.. 922 Tue, Apr 29, 11:54AM EST AzBug JA: Hey dude! Wazzup? How ya' been? I didn't make it to the Jazz Fest, but I do know the fellas' in Turning Point, very well. John Herrera is the drummer and is pretty amazing behind the kit. I have gigged with him a couple times and he engineered a friends CD project that I played on. GREAT guy! The g*&%ar player and Bassist are brothers. For my own taste, I think Thano is the best g*&^tarist in town. He's incredibly humble, as well. I've heard and met players that couldn't hold a candle to him on the axe that have SEVERE attitudes. Dimitri, the Bassist is his brother. The music they play doesn't call for very colorful Bass parts. Otherwise, he is an incredible player. I've heard him let loose a couple of times and he definitely knows what he is doing. Brian Bromberg produced their latest CD. Smooth jazz stuff, not my cup of tea, but very well done. On the other note, good luck with getting your Basses marketed. I hope and pray you will get to see some return for the work you've done. 923 Wed, Apr 30, 11:14AM EST JohnnieA Az>> Hey back to ya. I be doin O.K. fine.. Thanks for the inside info. on TP. My post above was based on the live performance last Saturday. After listening to the two CDs Cathy bought at the concert, you are right, he does have a pretty nice touch. Obviously, the live performance didn t do him justice. Take care. 924 Wed, Apr 30, 10:21PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Well our vocalist went to Nashville, and fell into the claws of a couple of indie producers up there. She's headed back up there in a month to cut a couple of originals that are fairly decent- (hell, we helped arrange 'em), but not exactly stellar material. Unfortunately she has stars in her eyes, and doesn't care about the effect this will have on the group since she's moving there to become a star. Oh well....at least we can get on w/keeping the gigs coming in, but it's a real shame when naive people believe the crap that some of these slimeballs dig up. Yes it's possible to make it there; ask Glenn Worf. But he still had to live out of his car for a little while, and he knew how hard it would be. He wasn't under the delusions spun upon him from any nickel and dime producer. Hell give somebody pro-tools and a P.C., and they think they're Phil Frickin' Spector. 925 Thu, May 1, 10:37AM EST "Hell give somebody pro-tools and a P.C., and they think they're Phil Frickin' Spector." You might want to add a 'gun' to that list. 926 Thu, May 1, 2:23PM EST big g .... above ROTFL 927 Thu, May 1, 9:28PM EST Mr.Bass Hi Guys, I was locked out for awhile, I guess someone thought I was going to post about TOP again...but I didn't..lol...I went to see the Dixie Dregs w/ Steve Morse and Dave Larue, ....you know when you go to a great restaurant and have a fabulous meal, then invite friends to go back with you to check it out and for some inexplicable reason its terrible....well this analogy is kinda wierd but I invited my brother in law to check the Dregs out this particular night and even though they all looked to be playing really cool licks, it was so damn loud you couldnt HEAR anything! The place is a little on the small side and they were really killing the volume, Steve was actually drowned out by the electric violinist and the keyboardist, and the only time you could really make out what La Rue was doing was when he soloed! Az> Spinal Tap was funny, I think these guys amps went to eleven also! 928 Fri, May 2, 1:08AM EST could be worse, you could have been at a Dixie Chicks show. 929