1 Fri, May 2, 8:30AM EST bassman I had to reindex the chat database, if you want a copy of the old dialog, go to A HREF="button at the bottom of the page click on chat-20021007-20030502.txt 2 Fri, May 2, 11:20AM EST big g Everyone please say a prayer for Rana Ross, she suffered a heart attack an is in critical condition, prognosis is not good. 3 Fri, May 2, 1:58PM EST AzBug bassman: Ahhh...that's why the page was going down? Thanks, AGAIN! For maintaining this page so us 'Ol' Fogies' (I know, I know, I'll speak for my self!*LOL*) to keep in touch......big g: I'm at a loss here. Gotta confess my ignorance; I'm not remembering who Rana Ross is... I'll still say a prayer! 4 Fri, May 2, 5:53PM EST big g Az> button I got to meet her at Namm a couple years back. 5 Sun, May 4, 10:15AM EST big g Sorry to inform all but Rana is no longer with us,as of this evening she was taken off of life support. Rana, RIP. 6 Sun, May 4, 5:58PM EST old timer As a fellow Brooklyn'yt' I'll say RIP...my fellow Bass player...Provided the bottom end.. 7 Sun, May 4, 9:52PM EST Mr.Bass My condolences big g...I lost two fellow bass players in my hometown recently...cherish the time you have on this earth, make every day count, R.I.P. 8 Mon, May 5, 11:19AM EST AzBug Geez... She seems WAY too young to leave us this soon. Well, another awesome addition to the great gig in the sky. A looker at that, as well! May she rest in peace... 9 Mon, May 5, 4:27PM EST big g My hankie is getting lots of use lately, just watched Standing in the Shadows of Motown. What a really great movie. Bob Babbitt did a wonderful job covering JJ's parts. Its got me looking for some foam to put under my strings by the bridge. 10 Wed, May 7, 6:53PM EST old timer I know I've been threatening this for some time now but , after I come back from vacation , in a boot(Canadian joke) a month , I'm going to sell most of the collection . I'll list it here first then put it in a local ' want-ad ' . If any of you guys are interested , you get first shot AND of course a better price than anyone else . Maybe I'll even figure out how to send pics by then . 11 Sat, May 10, 0:37AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Big G>Foam under the strings by the bridge works great. I used to have an old Epi Batwing bass that had a lever which raised and lowered a foam damper. Works wonders for cleaning up articulation. Eventually, palm or finger muting can work the same effect, though I don't think it works quite as well as the foam. Old Timer> Please learn to send pics. If I hit lotto I'll put in a bid for the whole set. 12 Sat, May 10, 3:42PM EST AzBug I've never seen or heard of foam at the bridge...hmmmm?!?!? Sounds interesting....OT; Bas(s)ed on the Smith I saw, I think that collection will go quick. I'm just hoping you're sure you wanna do it... A month will give me a chance to build up the GAS coin purse based on the fact that this is currently on it's way to me from Boston; button 13 Sat, May 10, 3:51PM EST lowlifer AzBug C Kaye is famos for using foam at the bridge to get her sound. The early fenders with a bridge cover have foam on the underside of the cover also. 14 Sat, May 10, 3:51PM EST lowlifer famous 15 Sat, May 10, 8:08PM EST anonymous Who is Rana Ross? 16 Sat, May 10, 9:21PM EST Ernie Ball Thanks for posting the info on Rana Ross, Big G. I looked at the Photo Gallery on the site/link. Exotic and wild, persona. Wonder if the lifestlye led to the cardiac arrest or if it was genetic. Tragic and a shocking bit of news for sure. R.I.P. 17 Sun, May 11, 9:05AM EST big g Actually, it was complications related to cirrhosis, that started the chain of events. RIP 18 Sun, May 11, 10:52AM EST big g CK experimented with several types of foam and other materials to get just the right amount of dampening effect. I had a mute on my ebo, but when engaged, it caused all the strings to go sharp,(not to mention the mud just got muddier LOL). Not very good for use on the fly, so I just removed it from the bass. 19 Mon, May 12, 9:24PM EST Mr.Bass big g>I rented that movie for 3 nights, and haven't even seen it yet!...something came up at the last minute every time I sat down to watch it, and had to bring it back...what a drag...but I def will see it. I really dug the book and tapes. 20 Mon, May 12, 9:42PM EST big g Mr.Bass rent the DVD. #2 DVD has great bios, interviews, out takes, jams, and a reunion dinner. 21 Tue, May 13, 9:51AM EST big g Noel Redding RIP. button 22 Tue, May 13, 12:44AM EST old timer As more and more of these legends leave us , I cant help but get the feeling that we've seen the 'golden age' of Bass players and it's now behind us....hope I'm wrong , thanks for " If Six Was Nine " .RIP Noel . 23 Tue, May 13, 5:31PM EST anonymous You sure are wrong OT!!!!!!!!!!! 24 Wed, May 14, 2:39PM EST old timer anon , by all means , give me your view . 25 Wed, May 14, 2:46PM EST old timer By the way anyone , what happened to fear , levite , BB , AATS , #9 , Bassland , PABass , crimmins , etc. etc. I know , at least , Luther and JohnnieA are lurking but , is everyone ? 26 Wed, May 14, 6:00PM EST Luther OT...I'm here...just recovering from minor surgury. As your collection goes on the auction block...is the ONE I'm particularly interested in part of the lot? I played a very nice bass tig over the weekend: a Musicman Stingray through an Ampeg SVT-4 Pro with a 4x10 and a 1x15 cab. It sure moved some air. Both cabs were rated at 4 ohm a piece so you can imagine the juice flowing through the system. Alas...yet another item added to my wish list. The same guy who had the rig let me borrow "Rising Low", a DVD about the making of the Gov't Mule tribute CD. Mike Gordon of Phish made the film. It had some interestng footage, but too much of it was of Mike Gordon and his spacey commentary. Willie Weeks was in it, but he didn't even speak. Too bad, I would have like to hear some words of wisdom from him. Hey OT...is your Dodge out of the garage yet? 27 Wed, May 14, 7:50PM EST old timer Luther , yes and yes... 28 Wed, May 14, 9:29PM EST AATS Hi OT, Thanks for thinking of me....been really bogged down with work lately have had no time to post..hope all is well in Bass Land! 29 Thu, May 15, 1:49AM EST lowlifer I'm allways lurking here too 30 Thu, May 15, 1:59AM EST Mr.Bass Thanks for the link big g. That was a shock. I remember lifting Noels bass lines in numerous Hendrix songs, I wasn't sure if Jimi played some of those or not. But I was really into Hendrix at one point. Going back many years, one day in music class we were allowed to bring in one album of something we thought was really unique. I chose Noels band Fat Mattress, a song called Magic Forest..it starts with some very strange voices sped up...I will never forget the teachers look as she was wondering what the heck was on her turntable! Noel you will be missed, RIP. 31 Thu, May 15, 6:33AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. The first bass lines I ever copped were Noel's. I thought "Fire", and "Hey Joe" were too cool. I began walking bass lines from that point on. O.T.-- any 5-stringers going to hit the auction block? 32 Thu, May 15, 11:58AM EST JohnnieA Old timer>> Yes, you re right. Lurk into the chat a couple times a week to see what s happening. Seems more and more difficult to contribute anything meaningful these days. Being a dinosaur, it is disheartening to see the legends cashing-in in their fifties. I suppose that sex, drugs, and rock n roll over time takes it s toll. 33 Thu, May 15, 10:02PM EST Johnnie A- For something meaningful, listen to what's out there now, and realize the connections. We all have them--especially this room that grew up w/the same batch of role models over a roughly ten year span. I.E.- James Jamerson, J.P.J, and Noel 1969-74.......Stanley Clarke, Bootsy, and Geddy Lee 1979-84. Except for Vic Wooten and Christian Mc Bride in the 90's...there really hasn't been a lot new to write about. Of course spanning that same time frame I do need to add Duck Dunn, Chuck Rainey, and Chris Squire, but the time and style reference points do remani intact. It's time we either contribute to the new bass revolution first hand, or start trainin' the young ones quickly. 34 Fri, May 16, 8:38AM EST crimins OT > I'm still lurking. I just haven't had much to contribute lately. 35 Sat, May 17, 1:13AM EST Mr.Bass Saw Dave LaRue playing what looked like a new Music Man bass...I think it was called The Bongo..ugs ville..the body design is incomplete to me, it looks like they got 3/4's done and said hey let's just leave it like this... you gotta see this bass. It was aloha orange to boot! Still having nightmares that bass is chasing me. 36 Sat, May 17, 1:28AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. "EE's the most viscious rodent I evah seen."----"Run Awaaaaaaay!!!!!" 37 Sat, May 17, 10:56AM EST big g Mr.Bass>I agree, the Bongo is one ugly axe. I think LaRue is a MusicMan endorser. He probably got it for free. At least one mass manufacturer is trying to do something different. I give MM props for that. 38 Sat, May 17, 7:46PM EST AzBug Oh yeah! The 'Bongo' was the favorite whipping post of alot of those that post on the bass bulletin boards right after they introduced it at this last NAMM show. I agree with the above observations of g and Mr.B. At leats, they're not trying to rest on their proverbial thumbs and ride out the MM designs. Change can be painful. Speaking of painful, got my first corporate gig with a new band tonight. Check out the web page www.therobertstreetband.com (Robert Street Band) These guys opened for TOP their last time through town. Pray for me fella's!!! 39 Sun, May 18, 4:02AM EST Azbug- I will definitely pray for you. Keep in mind that the amount of help you've given to many on this web page' myself included, that you've also built up some seriously good Kharma. I'm sure you'll do well. P.S., my band is in the rotation, and we received a call that we have an outside shot at opening for a Nashville act who will be in Houston Texas next month. $1,000.00 for a one hour gig. Indeed, I'm beggin' you guys---pray for us as well. 40 Sun, May 18, 4:04AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Speaking of TOP--I can't believe I didn't mention Rocco or Jaco in my earlier post of influences. By the way, that was me begging for the $1,000.00 gig. 41 Sun, May 18, 1:08PM EST Mr.Bass AZ> I second what Bernie said, about you! You are always helpful to everyone here. I know that gig will go beautifully for you, good luck dude!....Bernie>...you can't leave out Rocco...I'll send the Bass Police after you! LOL! 42 Sun, May 18, 11:00PM EST Luther I can't believe the deal I just stepped into. I'm about to buy a two week old, played on one gig, in showroom condition, Ampeg SVT4-Pro with (2) SVT 410 HLF cabinets with 12 gauge monster cables and the 4 space SKB case for a wopping $1300...for EVERYTHING. I guess the guy is moving and the shipping cost isn't worth it to him. I'm checking it out tomorrow (and bringing the cash)and if this thing is as good as it sounds, WOW!. My fingers are crossed. Funny thing is that I just played a similar rig last week and couldn't justify spending the money to buy it new. 43 Mon, May 19, 8:06AM EST old timer Luther...good things come to those who wait...he he he... 44 Mon, May 19, 10:15AM EST calinbass ay alguen que hable espa 45 Mon, May 19, 10:16AM EST calinbass im mexicano 46 Mon, May 19, 10:17AM EST calinbass holaaa 47 Mon, May 19, 11:21AM EST AzBug calinbass; Hola', que pasa? No habla espanol en el bajo WRL. Por favor! 48 Mon, May 19, 11:32AM EST AzBug Bernie, Mr.B: Well, geez, thanks for the awesome comments! I can honestly say I've learned quite a bit about the world of Bassdom from you two, and so many others here. It's a God send that Bassman provides such an awesome link for us all to get to know each other.... Luther, that is a SMOKIN' deal! I hope it comes thru' for you, Man! I'll be able to hear you all the way over here in Az!.... The prayers and best wishes worked for the gig on Saturday. I had about three blunders I can remember. Song after song of fingerstyle funk Bass playin' was just way too much fun. This new (to me) Elrick was custom made for the job. There were a couple tunes where I was playin' my proverbial arse off and this Bass was coming back to me sayin' "C'mon, Dude! Is that all you can do?!?!?" *LMAO* Like OT says, patience pays! Bernie: Definitely returning the prayers that you and your band mates land that gig! Based on the fact you are already being considered for stuff like that puts it on the positive side. If not this one, there will ALWAYS be another! 49 Mon, May 19, 12:08AM EST MetallicA Free Guitars/Basses!!! www.meshier.com/fs/a/index.html 50 Mon, May 19, 4:08PM EST big g TO ALL!!!! DO NOT FOLLOW ABOVE LINK!!!! 51 Mon, May 19, 5:44PM EST Luther I just got home with the rig and WOW!. This thing still had the price tags on it. I brought a "sound professional" friend of mine with me to look for anything I missed. He told me, "If you're not buying it...I AM!!!" Nuff said. I handed ove rth cash and now it's play time. I still can't believe it. 52 Tue, May 20, 12:41AM EST anonymous1000 Great deal...dude , sounds like the only thing left to do is kick back , have a few brews and watch a Yankee's game...nyuk , nyuk , nyuk. 53 Wed, May 21, 3:46PM EST big g>>I can't seem to listen to any old Motown tunes now without this new sense of awareness. Yep, we rented "Standing in the Shadows of Motown" this past weekend and I not only watched the movie documentary, but the second DVD with all the personal info and discography. An additional hour and a half. Been excited to see this flick since it came out. Couldn t make it to the theater, glad it finally made to Blockbuster. I recommend it highly to those of us who played these tunes when they were new, and to the younger guys who can see and hear where a lot of their influence came from. Great to see the Funk Brothers finally get the notoriety they deserve. Long over due 54 Wed, May 21, 3:47PM EST JohnnieA that was me above... 55 Wed, May 21, 3:51PM EST JohnnieA BTW, I didn't see or hear CK's name mentioned anywhere in this movie. Interesting... 56 Thu, May 22, 2:37PM EST old timer CK.....who ? Just kiddin'... 57 Thu, May 22, 7:10PM EST SHARP 11 CK...claims she was on those cuts, why did they dis her if she really was? 58 Fri, May 23, 9:40AM EST big g TGIF see what you started johnnie :O) 59 Fri, May 23, 10:40AM EST JohnnieA Rut Row.....TGIF 60 Fri, May 23, 1:06PM EST old timer Hey , I was on some of those cuts and did'nt get any credit either...yeah , I was JJ's bass tech...yeah , I filled in for him...yeah , that's the ticket...! 61 Fri, May 23, 8:23PM EST anonymous Maybe she didn't want to be involved or even mentioned? 62 Fri, May 23, 9:07PM EST red dog Maybe cause some old men still can't accept that a woman could outplay them. 63 Sat, May 24, 9:17AM EST Luther I don't want to start the whole JJ vs. CK thread again, but is it possible that the movie featured recordings from Motown's Detriot-era and NOT any of the recordings from it's period on the west coast? Perhaps this is why some folks were left out of the mix. Just a thought. 64 Sat, May 24, 9:48AM EST remco anybody tried labsystems bass amps?? 65 Sat, May 24, 10:10AM EST big g I consider this a completely different topic >Maybe cause some old men still can't accept that a woman could outplay them Boy was that any more evident at the Colonial??? A shame she didn't make the cut, but she put interest back in Golf. remco>I haven't 66 Sat, May 24, 10:37PM EST bassplayerworlddomination ne one play bass? 67 Sat, May 24, 10:37PM EST bassplayerworlddomination well duh u do..nvm i forgot this was a BASS CHAT... 68 Sun, May 25, 2:36AM EST JJ v CK think, Clear and simple, she is claiming work mentioned in the movie and she did not do any of that work. That is why she is not mentioned in SITSOM 69 Sun, May 25, 2:37AM EST LOL you would think it was rocket science 70 Sun, May 25, 9:29PM EST Russ Anyone li 71 Mon, May 26, 0:24AM EST Sharp 12 1/2 CK also has an arrogance about her that they didn't see as so becoming and rather not HAVE her in the movie. I don't think she can outplay many bass players FYI. How can you tell who the hell you are listening to anyway, maybe you are a fan of the bass player that REALLY was on the records and Not CK?, LMAO 72 Mon, May 26, 9:23AM EST if you were a real student of the instrument you would naturally know who the key players are. 73 Mon, May 26, 9:38AM EST i dont think so...why be a student, when I am already the Master 74 Mon, May 26, 10:55AM EST anyone who claims to be a master must have been a real diligent student and are aware of the history of the instument not herstory.... I kill me.... 75 Mon, May 26, 11:26AM EST ... Wait a minute! I thought "I" was the Master? 76 Mon, May 26, 11:27AM EST at least, that's what I told myself... 77 Mon, May 26, 11:01PM EST Mr.Bass I am staying out of the debate this round. All I know is I want to see it and I am glad those players that created that sound are getting thier due. 78 Tue, May 27, 2:03PM EST AzBug I'm with you, Mr.Bass. 79 Wed, May 28, 7:44PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Actually I dig all of them, and I'm glad we live in an age when that sound is available to us at our whim. Imagine the old days of URB's w/gut strings which made a low B-String a physical impossibility w/out a 44" neck scale. Worse yet imagine trying to figure out lines from surface scratchy 78 RPM records? We are truly blessed, and should not engage in the arrogance we so often accuse the other person of displaying. 80 Sun, Jun 1, 1:36AM EST Archer Got a pinched nerve in my neck (6-7) that is numbing out left hand, off to physical therapy. Sit up straight all. I hear jewlers and dentists get this too. 81 Mon, Jun 2, 11:58AM EST JohnnieA Stumbled onto this site last week and thought I d share it with you guys. Lots of interesting U-build it stuff. I personally like the $8 Doodle Bass . This guy has a lot of imagination. Enjoy.. button 82 Fri, Jun 6, 9:57AM EST big g Well gang, my daughter graduates from High School today!! We are throwing a grad party tomorrow and my old band is coming to play. I've been rehearsing old Who songs, "My Wife, Behind Blue Eyes, Goin Mobile etc. The Ox sure played some great parts. I don't have all the bass licks down perfect, but my windmills are great(I know it was Townsend). LOL I have several friends coming to jam and my daughter has a band from high school playing also. As a friend once said, "It sure is a beautiful world." 83 Fri, Jun 6, 3:07PM EST lowlifer big g has your daughter desided where she's going to college? Mine has one more year. 84 Fri, Jun 6, 4:00PM EST Bigginer325 I just got a bass and have been messin around with it but now i want to get serious so what should i do? 85 Sat, Jun 7, 10:29AM EST big g lowlifer> SFSU, she will be majoring in Cinema. Bigginer325>>Look around for a good teacher. 86 Sat, Jun 7, 11:58AM EST Bigginer325 Im allready taking lesons for the drums, so I thought i would teach my self but i dont know where to start. I'v bought a fast track book but it doesnt answer my questions and confuses me. Could you recomend a good book? 87 Sat, Jun 7, 9:04PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Bigginer325> Depends on what style you're looking to play. In the meantime start turning on the radio and try to cop licks that way. It's great ear-training and helps explain finger-patterns. Is your drum teacher teaching you to read? This is important, because if so you could become a monster at reading rhythms. Learning to read really does count for something----It nabbed me several studio gigs, and helped pay for college. Tell me the style---I know most of the books----Here's the real deal though---a quote from Chuck "The Rain Man" Rainey, who blessed me w/several lessons over a wonderful 3 month time span in my younger days---"Whatever style your trying to learn--listen to it. Find out which bass player in that style really bends your ear, buy all of his groups albums, then cop his licks. When you're done with him--find another one." Many of you don't know that Chuck learned to read music in a drum and bugle corps at a young age. He swears it helped him develop his style. Not only did he learn to read rhythms---thanks to the drums--but he also learned melodic phrasing and what it looks like on paper---thanks to the trumpet. 88 Sat, Jun 7, 10:12PM EST Bigginer325 Im In sort of a punk/alternitive band but we havnt done much. Our bass player is self taught but is now taking lessons. To be ohnest I really don't know what style I like because i love all music. Im not sure if im that advanced to cop licks on the radio to practice ear-trainings and finger-patterns. I know how to read drum music. My drum teacher has told me I am a good reader. 89 Tue, Jun 10, 7:03PM EST AzBug Bigginer: I'm all for folks learning as many instruments as they can. I still recommend that you take a couple of lessons to learn proper basic technique for playing the bass; Right/Left hand placement, proper way to place/hold it, fingerboard familiarity etc. You can certainly develop your own way of doing things, but it makes it a lot easier to learn the basics first..........Big g; So, how'd the party go? Did the windmills come out okay? I mean, did ya' look cool?!?!?! *LOL* Much CONGRATS to you and the daughter! 90 Wed, Jun 11, 9:09AM EST big g Az>Thanks, the party went great. Lots of smiles on the bandstand. The band sounded awesome. I played Pearl my old gibson, and my 5 string. Stratmans wife took some pictures here: button You have to register to view them. Enjoy 91 Wed, Jun 11, 9:14AM EST big g Also, Stratman overhauled my homepage button Please let me know what you think? If anyone would like to have Stratman do a webpage for you, he is very reasonable. 92 Wed, Jun 11, 10:12AM EST big g Also, Stratman overhauled my homepage button Please let me know what you think? If anyone would like to have Stratman do a webpage for you, he is very reasonable. 93 Wed, Jun 11, 11:39AM EST AzBug g: Page is lookin' good! I am working on my own (for the last 2 years!) I WILL have it up, SOME day! Looks as tho' you and the folks had a great time... Speaking of bands; Here is the cure for all your chick singer problems; button 94 Thu, Jun 12, 3:08PM EST crimins Big G > Man, seein' that 360 makes me want mine back. But I sold it 30 years ago. 95 Mon, Jun 16, 9:36AM EST old timer Well , back from vacation so here goes...5 strings...Pedulla Rapture TobSB , Pedulla MVP TransBlue , Ken Smith Burner Custom natural finish , Fender Roscoe Beck Candy Apple Red-$1000 each . Warwick Corvette Standard natural finish $700 . 4 strings...Alembic Spoiler nat. finish $900, Fender California Special SB $400 , Warwick Corvette St. fretless nat. $700 , PRS(original, nor reissueed)color changes with angle...$1000 , More to follow... 96 Wed, Jun 18, 3:23AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Well folks, in the middle of a recession, (You know, the one that our government swore didn't exist two years ago), it's amazing what $300 can buy. I've been out shopping for a new cheap back-up bass for my Lakland. Let me tell you that there are a lot of good used Yamaha TRB II 5-strings in the $4-500 range, and same goes for the new Ibanez 5 string Q405's or whatever they call them. (Really not bad basses at all for the money.) Here's a real kicker though. I've never been a fan of Washburn basses, because I felt they chintzed out on the pots and pre-amps. It was for these very reasons that Chuck "The Rain Man" Rainey told them no thanks--he did not want a Washburn Signature Line w/his name on it. Turned down a hell of a deal too. None-the-less, Washburn maintains a custom shop where they still build 'em here in the good ol' U.S. of A. w/top notch parts and electronics. To make a long story short I found one of these baby's---Hand built in the U.S. w/swamp ash body and AAAA birds eye maple cap (a thick cap, not one of those little barely covers the top of a cheap wood body deals)over genuine swamp ash. The Bartolini pickups are those huge honkin' humbuckers you used to have to order from Bill Bartolini himself, not the mass produced MK I's showing up on all the imports. Has a beautiful rock maple neck, and a very heavy quasi-Bad-Ass bridge. The starving guitar shop had an exceptionally reasonable $500.00 asking price. I asked the guy to help me make it grow legs so we could get it out of his store and into my hot little hands. He came back w/a ridiculously low $325.00. Of course I couldn't resist asking him if that was really as low as he could go, or how about a free case, and he just stared back at me w/the unbelieveably blank look that told me I'd better just shut up and pay up -which I did. I have since learned that these list at $1900.00 new w/a street price of $1300.00. I think my back up bass may become the first line. Took it home, plugged it into the Roland DB 700 and knocked a wall over w/it. (LOL) Oh well---time to remodel anyways. 97 Wed, Jun 18, 10:08AM EST big g bernie> great score, give us some pics when you can? 98 Wed, Jun 18, 12:38AM EST Luther Bernie...that's one heck of a score. I would like to see some pics of it as well. It sounds almost too good to be true, LOL. Hey OT...what about the Series-1 Alembic or the Spector 5-string? For anyone interested, I've seen OT's collection and they're all in great shape and well maintained. You certainly won't go wrong with one of his basses. If I had more $$$, I'd grab a few of them right now. 99 Wed, Jun 18, 3:50PM EST old timer Luther , you noticed a few aren't mentioned eh...? 100 Wed, Jun 18, 11:12PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. I'll be giving up some pics soon---including my old Haymans, Hofners, etc.....Some of the basses I used to play with before the great collection selloff of 2001. Speaking of pics---Big G> That looked like one fun for all bash. OT> Good luck on the factory clearance sale....sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY!!!!-Every bass must go now!!!!! We're stackin' 'em deep and sellin 'em cheap!!!(LOL) Believe me, as practical as the move may be, I know how painful it is. I went through this very move, but in the long run, you'll be happier. It even gives you an excuse to go shopping again someday if the urge strikes. 101 Fri, Jun 20, 12:35AM EST big g I hope all is well with the Arizona Bass Chat gang? Anyone ever tried a bass with the Mono Rail bridge? Opinions? Did you see a distinct difference between it and a regular one piece bridge? TIA 102 Sat, Jun 21, 12:09AM EST crimins Blatant spam here > if any of you guys are looking for back issues of Bass Player, I have about 45 for sale on Half.com. Search under the Everything Else category. Most of them are in the $2.75 - $3.25 range (depending on condition), plus about $2.00 shipping. 103 Sat, Jun 21, 2:42PM EST Fernades 104 Sat, Jun 21, 2:43PM EST Fernades What's going in in the US nowdays? 105 Sun, Jun 22, 0:15AM EST hsgoodwin@earthlink.net Hello all....Does anyone know where I can find a manual for a Trace Elliot SX 600 Rack Bass Amp??...Maybe 93-94 model....made in U.K........many emails to gibson/trace elliot site have all gone unanswered......Thanks!! Steve>>> hsgoodwin@earthlink.net 106 Sun, Jun 22, 3:50PM EST big g Lots of Trace manuels here: button You might also ask at Talkbass.com 107 Mon, Jun 23, 10:29PM EST lowlifer Anyone see the video of "Uncle Kracker" doing Drift Away with Dobie Gray? Its frairly true to the original recording. Saw it on CMT tonight. 108 Tue, Jun 24, 7:12PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. No-- but I saw the one of Maynard G. Krebs w/Doby Gillis. (LOL---especially for the old farts like me). Actually Lowlifer, I would've liked to have seen it. How's Low Lifette doing on the URB? 109 Tue, Jun 24, 8:07PM EST AzBug Yo', Dudes! How goes it? Speaking of URB's... I just did something I had yet to do, I traded my Lakland for an URB. This one is a players bass and I won't have any issues hauling it around to gigs. The guy doesn't know all that much about URB's but he's had it to 2 separate luthiers who both agreed it's a 70-80 year old German laminate. He's also giving me a 62 Reissue USA Strat in the deal. So much for my escapades. How's everybody else doing? 110 Tue, Jun 24, 9:37PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Azbug> You are a lucky dog. Sell the Strat and buy a Lakland Skyline w/the proceeds, then you'll really come out on top. 111 Thu, Jun 26, 4:33PM EST old timer Geez , I hate to go off topic for a change but , what does everybody think about this bullshit music industry threat to charge us/people with a criminal charge for downloading/swapping music/files...you heard about it I'm sure . These greedy pricks want every nickle they can steal ! I'm not talking about the artists that write and record the music , it's those asshole's in the office's that shuffle paper and blow smoke up everyone's ass ! Well , I've got about 900 downloads so " Here I am Lars ! " To think that little dickhead started all/most of this shit...I'd love to put my foot in his ass ! There , NOW I feel better , got that rant off my chest !!!! Did'nt mean to take valuable time away from all the bass talk that's been going on....(sarcasm)! Hey Luther , How 'bout dem Yankee's??? 112 Thu, Jun 26, 6:09PM EST I think it's a sham that the music companies can't come up with a plan like the Apple Software that lets you download a song and call it yours for $.99 a pop. I think everybody would be happy. I remember the day's of buying 45's for that price. 113 Thu, Jun 26, 6:51PM EST Yeah, but you got two tunes for a buck on the 45's......... 114 Thu, Jun 26, 10:44PM EST Yup, and one of 'em---"The B side", usually sucked. 115 Fri, Jun 27, 1:52PM EST LeChuck Hi. No one? 116 Fri, Jun 27, 1:53PM EST LeChuck Ehi.... is ther anyone to speak with? 117 Mon, Jun 30, 10:04AM EST anonymous1000 What a shame... 118 Mon, Jun 30, 10:41AM EST big g 57 today! 119 Mon, Jun 30, 10:45AM EST big g button Thinking about adding more speakers but worried about impedence? Where have these things been? 120 Mon, Jun 30, 6:03PM EST old timer Happy Birthday Old Guy... 121 Thu, Jul 3, 7:41PM EST lowlifer Gary, how was your birthday jam this year? 122 Fri, Jul 4, 1:44AM EST Mr.Bass Yea, there is a gadget for almost everything now, we had to do it the hard way. It's amazing, as I get older, I start to sound more and more like my Dad. 123 Fri, Jul 4, 9:20AM EST big g lowlifer>thanks for asking, instead of the Bdayjam this year we got the Circuit Breakers and a few friends together for Brookes Grad Party. That was a great day. If you scroll back to early June, you will find a button I left for pictures that stratman took. Dale is having his Jam Aug 16th. You should bring the family up. It would be great to hear your daughter on standup. BTW stratman is living in El Dorado county now. Lots closer. 124 Sun, Jul 6, 0:32AM EST Bernie (Gimme more gigs) B in the P.T. Big G> Happy B-Day dude! It's a shame that I haven't had a chance to post this earlier. Gigs are lining up, but not quite as quickly as I'd like. I hate one nighters. Set up, play, break down, go home. I sure miss house band gigs. Big G--Mono-rail bridges are a great concept. I think they kick the $#!+ out of the old barel type Fender bridges, but they don't really have much of a jump on the massive hunks of brass put out by Bad-ass or Wilkenson. They're really a beautiful concept, and I believe if they were put together better than the ones I've played (Ibanez) they might actually exceed these. It's a strange sort of thing -like wooden nuts. If you know an EXCELLENT (can't emphasize excellent enough)luthier, a wooden nut cut just so can bring a bass to life. If not cut perfectly, however, they will kill a basses' tone just as quickly. It's no wonder most techs (usually not luthiers) will put a brass nut on your bass in order to increase sustain. I know because I've had it done. Use Ebony or Rosewood only. I think that at the other end of the string the mono rail bridges are a great idea, but as it stands now, as with the nut, a huge honkin' hunk'o'brass with adjustable saddles of the same huge honkin' variety can do the job just as well---especially if set up to run string through body. Just my opinion based on my own experiences. 125 Sun, Jul 6, 0:36AM EST Bernie (Gimme More Gigs) B. in the P.T. To All> Pictures are coming---I'm just an old fashioned plug and play guy trying to catch up to the 21st Century. 126 Sun, Jul 6, 10:06AM EST big g Bernie>Thanks for the info on the mono rail. I went to one of the parts sites and it was $175 for a 5 string set. A little pricy. I do like my BAI on Pearl. I know I've said it here and elsewhere before, it was a rebirth for that bass. Just played her yesterday and she sounded shweet. 127 Mon, Jul 7, 11:30AM EST JohnnieA Happy belated B-Day Mr. G! Age is more and more relative as we add on the years. I spent the day with my duaghter last Thursday and she was mighty upset that she is only 6 years away from 30. I laughed... 128 Mon, Jul 7, 8:40PM EST Hazzard Wow...its been a long time since I was here. I've got a question for all you gearheads: I've just spent this year paring down the rig, from a rib-crushing, 6' monster, to a backseat friendly Bassman 100. I've got 4 basses, A Fender Am. Deluxe V (with an 18v preamp), an Fender Mexi 60's Reissue Jazz, a Fender Am. Series fretless, and a homemade job, made from Warmoth parts, and EMG loaded. I'm running a tube preamp into my input of the bassman, to add some tube warmth. I'm also thinking of a Bass Pod, simply because I could set uo 1 or 2 channels for each bass, and set up all the levels to be equal. This way my passive basses will be just as loud as my active ones. My question is this, am I going to be "over-preamping"? I was planning to use the effects loop for the pod, but that still means 2 or even 3 preamps in the chain before the amp stage! I'm awarw that I'll have to keep a close eye on my gain structure, but is there such a thing as overdoing it? Am I going to sound like I'm playing next to Niagra Falls?? Opinions? Thoughts?? 129 Tue, Jul 8, 4:17AM EST Archer Hazzard I cruze by here once in a while and kinda wondered where you be. LA is good (straight out of Arizona). I've been using a Boss GT-6B but have to keep sending it back w/ circuit problems. When it was working I ran GT-6B>tube preamp> solid state amp and it sounded great. 130 Tue, Jul 8, 3:16PM EST Hazzard Archer! Long time no see buddy! I hadn't thought of reversing it that way, but thats still running through the input. I'll have to play. 131 Wed, Jul 9, 4:51PM EST AzBug Happy Belated B'Day, g! Sorry, so late to post that! Mine was a couple weeks ago (41 and not counting anymore). :-)..... Bernie: Times are tough, all over. I had a steady, Wed. Thur. Fri. afternoon gig cancelled thru' September. It was that R&B gig I mentioned a few posts earlier. It was a sweet gig and about the only kinda "Kook" gig I'd keep at as a steady. 3 days a week, noon 'til 4p.m. The house had a rig for me to use. 2 bills for W/Th, and 2 1/2 for Fri. All I had to do was show up with a Bass. That was a killer phone call cancelling that gig!... Oh well. Just gotta keep plugging along..... Hazzard: I have run my POD into my Sansamp DI and out to the board. Never have doubled up a pre signal going to an amp. I imagine it is done, but it sure does seem like you'd REALLY haveta watch the switches and knobs to keep from over driving the front end of your amp? I'd be interested to hear how it works out... 132 Thu, Jul 10, 7:57PM EST Hazzard OK...heres a thought then, by sending a tube signal into a POD, is that defeating the whole idea? Would it be better to go into the od first, THEN tube DI? 133 Thu, Jul 10, 9:41PM EST AzBug Definitely, the POD first. If I'm right, I believe the POD does digital emulation? AN A/D - D/A type thing. The rack mount POD Pro has a digital out, so you would definitely lose tube affect on your signal chain if you were using that O/P. As I said in my previous post, I run from my POD into my pre/DI. Try both config's and see which one you like. 134 Sun, Jul 13, 10:58PM EST skiball hey i remember this place! Happy b day G!! Hope all is well with the rest of yuz.put in 68 hours in the florida heat last week......goodnight 135 Mon, Jul 14, 8:32PM EST lowlifer ski sorry to hear about the heat wave there in Fla. It was a "cool" LOL 91* in San Jose today. 136 Mon, Jul 14, 10:50PM EST Bernie B (Please Throw Me Another Gig) in the P.T. Just your standard 100 Degrees in July Day here in the beautiful, sunny metropolis of Grapevine Texas. Of course Azbug should know about those living in Arizona---but hey that's a dry 100, not this mildew inducing hot and humid 100+....Oh well---you guy's on the East Coast having some of those 85 degree heat waves yet? (LOL) 137 Tue, Jul 15, 0:26AM EST lowlifer But Bernie, its a dry heat, like sticking your head in a oven. 8>) 138 Tue, Jul 15, 1:33AM EST Bernie B Hey if the gigs don't pick up soon I may find out what that's really like! 139 Tue, Jul 15, 12:07AM EST AzBug Fellas', fellas', fellas'.... I was driving to a gig last Sunday afternoon. It was about 4:30p.m.... 117 degrees, Farenheit! AND! To top it all off, we are just entering into our rainy season. Lovingly called 'Monsoon Season'. What is normally 5-6% humidity is now 30-40%. It's always this time of year I wonder if there could be a worse place on this planet Earth than here! I'm sure there is, but the pickins' would be mighty slim. It's gonna be a balmy 114F today. Something to look forward to, huh?.... NOT! 140 Fri, Jul 18, 0:27AM EST fear Well Gang Its been a while ..just got the isp back, had to cut back on the cash flow. ...But all thats all over now... Yall might think I'm nuts but I'm going to Iroc to help rebuild for 100 g's a year for 2 years and a sign on of 30 g. Rebuilding communication infastructure. Wish me luck. I'll update when I can .Wont ship out till mid aug. ..And taking a bass and a pignose with me to practice and keep me sain for 2 years while not working...Am I nuts .....? 141 Fri, Jul 18, 0:30AM EST fear AZBUG i think I'm going to THE worst place you discribed 142 Fri, Jul 18, 0:35AM EST fear To help some with the $$ shortage. I was able to get with a fine bunch of musicians. . They are sad to see me go ..I'm sad to go as well. button 143 Fri, Jul 18, 2:43PM EST anonymous hello 144 Fri, Jul 18, 2:43PM EST chinchin hello 145 Fri, Jul 18, 2:44PM EST chinchin hello fear.. 146 Fri, Jul 18, 4:13PM EST lowlifer Fear keep your head down and watch your "6". 147 Sat, Jul 19, 2:29AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Fear> Wishing you well---keep safe. Azbug> Thank my lucky stars that 105 w/a heat index of 110 is all I've had to tolerate this year. 148 Mon, Jul 21, 10:24AM EST crimins Fear > Man, change your name to NO FEAR permanently. Best of luck over there, and God bless. I'm sure there will be some jammin' GIs you could hook up with. 149 Mon, Jul 21, 12:19AM EST JohnnieA Fear> 100K doesn't seem to be enough!... Watch your back and stay safe. We'll be thinking about you here in AZ. 150 Thu, Jul 24, 11:39AM EST AzBug Fear: Godspeed, my friend! This will be quite a challenge, and QUITE an experience! Be safe. I was watching a show last night and they followed some celebrities around the area. Kid Rock was one of the celebs' and at one of their stops they couldn't take their musical gear with them so the G.I's set up their own gear for them to play and they jammed! Way cool! Music just has a way, don't it? They played Sweet Home Alabama... 151 Fri, Jul 25, 3:02PM EST crimins Hello guys. Well, I hate to be on a downer, but as most of you old-timers know. I've been battling the big "C" over the past three years. Some more blips on the radar screen have popped up, so I'm back on chemotherapy again to try to control this mess. I'm still pickin', workin', eatin', etc. As usual your thoughts and prayers are much appreciated. On a lighter note, it looks like this CD this g*****r player and I have had in the works for the past 3 YEARS might be mixed, mastered, and ready to send to the manufacturer for pressing and packaging next week. We still have to come up with the cover artwork, but we'll jump on that pretty soon. The name of the group will be Acoustic Collective, even though I used electric basses on it. I'll try to get some sound files out there for everyone's crtitquing as soon as I can. Thanks. 152 Sat, Jul 26, 10:09AM EST big g crimins> I'm looking forward to hearing your new CD. Keep the faith, we are all pulling for you bro. 153 Sun, Jul 27, 7:12PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Crimins> You are already in the prayer chain-----Hey it's worked twice already--Here's hoping round three kicks thyis stuff's @$$ for good! Still promise to post pictures. Looking for old floppies that have pictures of a few of my Frankenstein basses on them. Everytime I look though someone mentions Frau Bleuher, lightning strikes, and my horses start to whinny.--and, "No I didn't make that yummy sound." 154 Mon, Jul 28, 1:28PM EST Stinky Got a question. I am a newbee on the bass (a year). Is there software that will break out the different instruments (bass, lead guitar, rythem guitar, drums, etc.) from the music on the CD? I know they record them separately and mix them, so I figure there must be a way to "un-mix" it. I have heard that cakewalk makes alot of music software, but I don't know very much about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 155 Mon, Jul 28, 1:59PM EST Stinky Got a question. I am a newbee on the bass (a year). Is there software that will break out the different instruments (bass, lead guitar, rythem guitar, drums, etc.) from the music on the CD? I know they record them separately and mix them, so I figure there must be a way to "un-mix" it. I have heard that cakewalk makes alot of music software, but I don't know very much about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 156 Mon, Jul 28, 5:44PM EST big g Stinky>I don't think there is software to do that. They do make jam tracks that you can remove the bass from to practice along with. In theory, it sounds like a great idea! 157 Tue, Jul 29, 1:25AM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Stinky> They also make CD and Tape players that can slow dow the song to 1/2 speed w/out changing the pitch (Neat Trick)----Our Guitar Player Swears by his....I'm just an old plug and play guy now, but if I were still transcribing solos from Rocco and Jaco, I'd probably buy one. It sounds like a great idea, and I trust my guitar player's instincts. (Very rare indeed since I rarely trust any guitar player.) Once again the recession has kicked the tar out of most music retailers so you might go look @ your local Guitar Center for one of these pups. If it's less than $100.00 ---it'll probably be worth it. 158 Tue, Jul 29, 10:57AM EST big g Going to see BB, Jeff Beck, MoFro, and Galactic tonight at Raley field. Stratman is taking me for my B day present, what a friend! I'll review the show tomorrow. 159 Tue, Jul 29, 3:47PM EST crimins Stinky> the Korg Pandora series of effects boxes have a feature that will remove the bass from a track bu reverse phasing. There are other gizmos out there that will do the same for vocals. They onlyreally work well if the bass or vocal track is mixed dead center. By the way, in one of my jazz mags a saw an add for a Yamaha version of the Pandora PXB3 for horn players - same box, buttons, dials, etc. Just withe Yamaha logo on it. I guess Korg decided to do some off-brands to bring in some extra income. 160 Thu, Jul 31, 10:51AM EST JohnnieA Have you heard of this Arizona kid yet? Not bad for 13 years old!... button 161 Thu, Jul 31, 11:08AM EST big g Show review: HOT 106 degrees. Opening act was MoFro from Florida. They played about 30 minutes in the direct sun. It took 2 songs before they brought up the keyboards in the mix. Bass drum mixed way too loud. Bassist, from France, played a Jazz bass with the covers on through an SVT (house amp). He was actually very good when I could here him. Next band was Galactica. These guys really cooked. Wild man on drums, but very solid. Their music is a cross between funk and jazz. Killer tenor/bari sax man who ran through a barrage of pedals. I highly recommend checking them out. The bassist held the groove together on an old sunburst P. Not too flashy, but with their drummer, he had to hold the line pretty much. Next up, the man, Jeff Beck. I was disappointed that he had Tony Hymas on keys playing the bass parts. booo. While Hymas handed the job professionally, I still missed the bass. Jeff was on top of his game. Oh did I mention the drummer? Terry Bozio. OMG as usual the guy was an animal and probably watching him was worth the price of tickets. His set now includes 4 bass drums, 20 toms, some tuned to specific notes so he could play a melody with Jeff on one song. This was the same lineup as when I saw him with Stevie Ray. BB...well its BB King. Alway great and his bassist played through a Hartke amp and sounded awesome. All in all it was a good show that could have been better if it were 20 degrees cooler. 162 Thu, Jul 31, 12:21AM EST big g button Bozzio's setup 163 Thu, Jul 31, 9:45PM EST Archer Thanks big g, I cannot make the LA show or the Tuesday show at Dodge although I really wanted to. Back to work,,,, 164 Fri, Aug 1, 2:02PM EST crimins Big G> Mofro is from right here in Jax. 165 Sat, Aug 2, 9:15AM EST big g The lead singer made mention of that. When he looked over at the thermometer 106 degrees, he said "I'm from Florida, we LOVE the heat". LOL I thought they were pretty good just suffering from a bad mix. 166 Sun, Aug 3, 11:51PM EST Mr.Bass big g> Thanks for the lowdown... I am a BIG Jeff Beck fan..I also saw him in CT without a bassist, little disappointing. Terry has a Woofer with Doobie Bars? What the heck is that? I am drum ignorant, Sorry AATS....What ever happened to Wilber Bascomb(sp), he was on WIRED? 167 Mon, Aug 4, 5:03PM EST zezzere cooooo 168 Thu, Aug 7, 11:40AM EST anonymous1000 Guido...computer crashed , lost your e-mail addy... 169 Sat, Aug 9, 6:46PM EST anonymous is anyone on right now? 170 Sat, Aug 9, 6:46PM EST anonymous i need help? 171 Sun, Aug 10, 12:17AM EST anonymous this place needz help 172 Tue, Aug 12, 6:23AM EST mpraven Hope you see this luther. The other board is getting a bit tiring. Need a place to talk bass. Not this frustrated can't get a gig in my home town crap! 173 Fri, Aug 15, 5:40AM EST MPraven Has anyone tried the Seymore Duncan (Basslines) Alnico pole, double wrap pick ups? I have an old Ibanez 6 string just sitting there and I've decided to do some customizing, but I want to get some input first. I've heard those pickups mimmick a Music Man pretty well. Any comments? 174 Fri, Aug 15, 10:46AM EST big g MPraven, I don't have a bass with a MM style pu, but Seymour Duncan has an exchange policy if your are unhappy with it. I am very happy with a SPB2 P bass pu I installed in my Yamaha. Sorry I cant be of more help. To all>> Dales Jam is tomorrow. My Sunn will be shining as it is backline again this year. It looks like we will have some real guitarslingers there. 10 hours of music. I'm hoping to get my 3 favorite g players up at once for a little ol fashioned showing off. Of course, your all invited! 175 Fri, Aug 15, 11:03AM EST big g To stimulate some action here. How about we continue the TBL thread on firsts? My first bass, Mosrite, got stolen. First bass line learned, Peter Gunn or maybe My Girl. First Concert, I believe was Chuck Berry at a Big Daddy Tom Donahue concert at the Cow Palace He had just gotten out of jail after being incarcerated for violating the Mann Act. He was duckwalking across the stage and tripped on a cord. He never missed a beat, jumped up an continued. When he duckwalked back over the cord a second time, he stuck out his tongue at it. FOTFL I'm thinking it was around 1962. First Bass Amp, Fender Showman. Most mismatched booking at a concert, Opening act Golden Earring, got one encore, next, Robin Trower's first winterland appearance, he got 2 encores and Bill Graham had to come out after and keep the show moving because the crowd wanted more. This proved to be very unpopular decision to say the least. The top billing, Sha Na Na who was booed off stage after 4 songs 176 Fri, Aug 15, 12:59AM EST crimins OK, my turn: First bass - Gibson EB0, although I played a friend's Kent bass before that. First bass amp - Fender Dual Showman, blonde. Wish I still had that! First concert - hard to say, but I think it was the Stones along with the Righteous Brothers, Sir Douglas Quintet, the Newbeats in 1965. It was one of those radio station package shows. First bass line learned of any significance (other than Louie, Louie) would have to be "Time Won't Let Me" by the Outsiders. Either that, or We Gotta Get OUt of This Place by the Animals. 177 Fri, Aug 15, 1:00PM EST crimins First bass line could also have been All My Lovin' (Sir Paul). 178 Sat, Aug 16, 1:12PM EST mpraven Hmmmm.... 1st Bass - Magnatone P-Bass Mock up 1st Amp - Fender Bassman Head with 2-12 Bottom 1st Song Learned - Satisfaction, Stones - Apache and some other surf oriented tunes. 1st song with any significance - King Kong and Uncle Meat, Frank Zappa 1st Gig - Eric and the Chessmen at DeCrosta's Restaurant(June, 1965)I had to get fake ID for that one. 1st Concert - Stone Coach(warm up for Electric Prunes at Aerodrome Concert Hall in Schenectady, NY) Most Memorable Moments - Playing with T.Monk at Pall's Mall and at The Jazz Workshop in Boston Mass. 1st scheduled Concert appearance - Electric Bassist for Phil Woods Tuesday Night Dues Band at New England Life Hall in Boston(1969) 179 Sun, Aug 17, 6:07AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. First Bass- Hagstrom eight w/only 4 strings. Wish I still had that tobacco sunburst beauty. Super fast neck. First Amp- Fender Tremolux (wished I still had that one too.) It sounded way cool when I had all 8 strings on the Hag and ran the Tremolo at full speed and intensity. Sounded even cooler when we sent it through a Leslie. First Bass Line- "Hey Joe"/ Noel Redding for Jimi Hendrix. First Gig- Some apartment clubhouse...we played for tips, and I still remember that funky ol' brown and green Shag Carpet. 1st Concert- Playing for one of a million bands at the time named "Pegasus." It was in a public park in Dallas called Lee Park. (As in Robert E. Lee) It was sort of a mini-woodstock affair w/tons of local bands. Some even went on to bigger and better things. The concert was actually a protest put together by a bunch of us old hippies. It was given on the anniversary of the "Lee Park Massacre." We used to all hang out there and play Frisbee,etc., and the locals got pissed. They sent the cops in one day, and they ran through busting heads left and right. One year later we were back in force. Those were different times for sure. mpraven>Surely you know those times well having played for Phil Woods. I didn't get up to Boston till 1984--back to Texas by 1992. Bet you wished you still had that Magnatone. I thought their basses and guitars were very under rated. Very Vox-like. Funny now that their amps are considered Holy Grail material by guitarists. 180 Sun, Aug 17, 11:06AM EST Ernie Ball First bass: A imitation Hofner Beatle bass at 15 or so around 1970. A pencil thin neck, you could play without stretching. Fist teacher had a Fender Precision with a wide neck I thought I could never play on. Few months later got a mint, sunburst Fender Precision that some guy kept under his bed, in the case. Had black nylon strings on it. Wish I still had that bass-have no idea where it even ended up. First song: White Room by Cream. Living in a small town in Canada, (THUNDER BAY, ONTARIO) musicianship was VERY competitive. Hands down it was the best way to get girls. Paul Schaffer (sp) of NBC D. Letterman, was in one of the high school, battle of the bands. Neil Young would sing about Thunder Bay in his CSN&Y song, "Helpless." Point being-learning bass was rough in those days. Guys wouldn't share ideas. Teaching material was limited. I had a cellist/bassist teacher. Learning Jim Fielder lines off of BS&T records-lots of ear training but frustrating. First gig-with the Ernie Castle V-which was way beyond my ability and learning. So angry-never wanted to keep up with the lessons. The string bass in the high school band was played by some girl with horrible acne. Forget this road of endeavor. After working in film production and traveling for 15 years ended up in Los Angeles-where Stevie Ray Vaughn type guitarist introduced me to walking bass lines of Tommy Shannon of SRV's Double Trouble with Hal Leonard bass book. Studied every bass book, I could find-now that teaching material had made such great leaps. Drum machines and workng metronomes, good tablature-well written bass clef sight reading books- jam tapes like "Looking For A Bass Player", where the lines for Crossroads and Layla etc were isolated and on the other side of the tape-the full mix minus the bass so you could drop in your own lines. First audience. Playing at a jam night-my knees were shaking. After owning and selliing about 15 basses (one was a double neck 8 string) kept playing with different LA Bands and studying. Keeping a day job- practicing at night-no social life-just practicing and finally gigging in LA clubs. So wiped out some nights-I would forget my bass at the nightclub and the drummer would snatch it and return to me. Made notes on every gig-the more pressure the better-palying in front of people made all the difference. (so many Los Angles guys play to no one except their bedroom walls or their computer) -kept studying from massive teachng library of video tape/CD/audio tape/and later MP3's, while gigging, learning songs on the fly. First Paycheck; First applause; after a First bass solo--> making up for all the botched experiences of my youth, although I still do the "Hendrix/Clapton machine gun triplet" I learned at 15 but now in my 40's I can do it, a thousand different ways. We didn't have Victor Wooten in 1970 and Charlie Mingus was out of reach. What a pleasure to have all that and more-for inspiration; now. (Have about 50 items on Amazon.com wish list.) Victor Wooten's harmonics on live, "Amazing Grace" or just the way he plucks a single note. Live CD's with matching DVD's so you know the guy didn't create the bass line in the studio after the 30th take. (or the 2nd!) Keep on playing. Play with feeling. 181 Sun, Aug 17, 6:03PM EST anonymous Hello....anyone know about old upright bass's or a goos site to get info? 182 Sun, Aug 17, 6:05PM EST stingray-jim err good site 183 Mon, Aug 18, 7:02AM EST mpraven Charles Mingus! Great to hear his name mentioned as an inspiration! He did a lot more for bass players than most people realize. 184 Mon, Aug 18, 7:07AM EST mpraven Pretty Interesting "Firsts"! Makes you think how far we've really come! Oscar Pettiford to Stanley Clarke. Joe Osborne and Carol Kaye to Stu Hamm and Victor Wooten. Also nice to hear Jim Fielder's name mentioned. He got lost in the sauce after all these years. 185 Mon, Aug 18, 7:03PM EST Ernie Ball Mpraven-you could HEAR the basslines on those BS&T early LP's as Jim was taking an active part in the arrangements. (then there was the Blues Pt 2, bass solo- on BS&T 2!!!)I liked solos on the Jazz 4 sections of God Bless the Child, Spinning Wheel, Lucrita McEvil. The songs were alsways extended on the LP's which was nice. Thanks for shout out. Picked up a Hal Leonard book of BS&T arrangements with good bass, synth and horn sections awhile back-and you can see how active Fielder was in the Melody Dept., on Fender Bass with songs like "When I Die, or "Sometimes In Winter" (Steve Katz) I really enjoyed reading other bassist "FIRSTS" on the site which compelled me to write and post. Leave it to Big G to "stimulate some action." Thanks for the "nod", mpraven, all the best. 186 Mon, Aug 18, 8:41PM EST big g Dales jam was outstanding. He tried to surprise everyone and got married at the jam. Very cool ceremony. Bride, Groom, and Pastor really yucked it up. Every year I get floored by the kids. TJ's drumming has matured. He played with great taste. Jake, played Teentown on a jazz fretless. This year a young songwriter showed up and did several originals. I predict this kid, Dennis Hazelton, has a very bright future. When I arrived on Saturday, first thing noticed was that there were 2 sets of congas on the stage. One set was enough, so I had to dissapoint one fellow, but told him he could sit in on the other congas. We needed the stage space. I avoided the Kamakazi's. A good time was had by all. 187 Tue, Aug 19, 2:47PM EST AzBug Wow! Great read, your fellas' experiences. Quite a bit of history right in these last few posts. Thanks for sharing! I came along a couple years after you guys; My first bass was a 1/2 size EKO Jazz Bass knock off. Had that for 2 years, then saved up enough paper route money to buy my Rick 4001 and a SUNN Beta Bass 1x15 Combo. My nephew now has the amp and it still sounds great! First concert: I remember it like it was yesterday...well, okay, more like last week *LOL*; September 5th, 1975 San Bernardino, Ca. ; Brownsville Station opened, then Peter Frampton (2 weeks later, Frampton Comes Alive was recorded up north), then came Lynyrd Skynyrd (before the fateful plane crash) and headlining was Black Sabbath (with Ozzy). I was 14 and my mom would only let me go with my older sister as chaperone.... Memorable experiences: 2 1/2 hour rhythm section workshop after a High School Jazz Festival with Buddy Rich (he judged the rhythm sections). The guy could do more with a hi-hat stand than most drummers can do with an entire kit! Sitting in (still in High School) with the Duke Ellington Orchestra at a school assembly performance. Jamming with Stanley Jordan after the MusArts Jazz Fest, in Flagstaff, Az. He was one of the headliners and my band had played earlier in the day. Big Jam after the show. What would life be like without music? I can't, or don't want to even try and imagine... 188 Tue, Aug 19, 5:07PM EST sho nuff I agree. I ponder the thought of the "up and coming" bassist of the future. Being an avid fan of the bass, I have listened to the best and I'm hearing some new cats on the scene who will be added to the list. I can still hear jaco and the way he communicated with the bass. The bass family has great members (some greater than others, but only by opinion) Les Claypool has a way of making you want to pick up the bass yourself and take a spin. Bootsy Collins: Funk, pure FUNK! Jaco? What can one say about Jaco? Stanley Clarke: The man has taken the "bassist" to higher levels of entertainment. Paul McCartney: Fab!Christian McBride, awesome! There is a new cat on the scene that I ran across accidentally. While being "stuck" with the dubious job of taking my teenaged daughter to see teen sensation Christina Aguilera, I heard the funkiest bass I've heard in years. Being with a reporter from the Boston Globe, we were able to go backstage. I met this guy, his name is Ethan Farmer and man was I surprised! Very humble, took compliments well, and if you haven't had the chance to hear him, don't worry, you can. He shared a little with me and through the power of the internet, I found many of the projects he has worked on. He's worked with Dave Koz Tom Middleton, he's even done some writing. Hey, I just hope that he may get the opportunity to read this posting and know he has a great future ahead of him. If you guys get the chance to get out and hear him, do it! It's worth it. 189 Fri, Aug 22, 0:57AM EST Mr.Bass First Bass was a Sekova Beatle Bass copy, I broke the nut and used a short pencil in its place, the action had to be about an inch off of the neck! Second bass was same as Bernies, The Hagstrom eight string bass ,wafer neck. I still have that one! Except a relative of mine took a disc sander to the back of it because I wanted to change the color...ouch! 190 Mon, Aug 25, 2:37PM EST anonymous THIS REALLY CAN MAKE YOU EASY MONEY!! ITWORKS!!! BUT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT TO THE LETTER FOR IT TO WORK!!!! A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00! So I thought,' Yeah, right, this must be a scam', but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups (There are thousands). No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I decided to try it. I figured what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right? Like most of us, I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!!... within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in rapidly. It's certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps. Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works.... also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.' Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope. This is to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by this. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: #1)Carroll 103 Kings highway East, Haddonfield, NJ 08033 #2)David 28 E. Natoma Ave. Addison, IL 60101P. #3)R. Wheeler 333 W. Beloit Salina,KS 67401 #4) Leetia 2313 Capeland Dr. Little Elm, Tx 75068#5)C. Gould 275 Lake st. Apt 6 Weymouth Ma.02189 #6) C.MAZZOLA 922 KEYSTONE DR. STOUDSBURG, PA 18360. STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 24,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, them more you post, the more money you make! ---DIRECTIONS -----HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter,then click and drag your cursor to the bottom of this document. Select 'copy' from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computers memory. Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do your postings in different sittings, you'll always have this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message button. You're done with your first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin reciving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $625.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625.00! With a original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, 'what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. Enjoy the money, Phil 191 Mon, Aug 25, 3:36PM EST Alright, who was in charge of the SPAM filter this week..... 192 Mon, Aug 25, 6:47PM EST sho nuff This character must have free speech confused with free advertisement! Get outta here! Let's talk about the real bass players. 193 Mon, Aug 25, 7:03PM EST big g Somehow anonymous must have us confused with a news group? LOL Anybody watch any of the reality programs? Nobody plays fair nowdays. Just had a gig cancel on me. I'm ticked, but two more just fell in my lap. I wasn't happy but thanked the gentleman for the call. Never burn bridges. 194 Thu, Aug 28, 9:50PM EST NuclearWeasel Has anyone tried the GK Backline 210 BLX cabinet, or the 115 BLX? Would it be good (at least, okay) with the GK 800 RB Head compared to the RBS? 195 Fri, Aug 29, 0:53AM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Nuclear Weasel> I cannot give a definitive answer, but I believe this will help. I'm certain that there are GK fans on this site who can fill you in on the finer details.----Seems to me that the Backline Series is to GK what the Working Man Series is to SWR. I personally wouldn't want to cheat a top shelf head out of its optimal sound by mating it to a lower line set of speakers. GK heads have a tendency to sound harsher than most when mismatched w/speakers. For the money I'd rather buy a used cab w/top shelf speakers than a new cab of mediocre quality. Speakers are too much of an important factor in the overall signal chain. If you skimp here you will regret it. 196 Fri, Aug 29, 7:36AM EST Luther I second what Bernie B said. I own a GK 2000RB and I can assure you that it sounds a heck of a lot better through a quality cabinet. Some guys still prefer the Hartke 4x10 sound with the GK, but I've had better luck with SWR Goliath cabs or Bag End cabs. Don't skimp on the gear. You defintely get what you pay for in that dept. Good luck in finding something that suits yor tastes and your wallet, Nuclear Weasel. 197 Fri, Aug 29, 1:47PM EST NuclearWeasel Thanks for the advice! But that leads me to another question: if I were to get more expensive speakers, I could probably only afford either the 210 or the 115, not both yet. Which would I better off with alone with the 800rb? Would either be loud enough on their own for small or medium shows? 198 Sat, Aug 30, 10:05PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Depends a lot on your sound. I personally prefer the old school meat and potatoes sound. Emphasis a little on the lower end w/midrange and highs used to accent the sound. Old school fingers--no pick--no slap. That's why I would go w/the 1X15. But if you prefer a sound where the midrange is the tonal center, and glassy horn highs are important too---then you should go w/the 2X10. If you slap at all you will definitely want the 2X10. Whichever you go with, you will eventually want to add the other later on. 1x15 w/a 2X10 is a very versatile set up. 199 Mon, Sep 1, 11:50AM EST anonymous1000 Nuclear Weasel...???...good nik dude ! 200 Mon, Sep 1, 2:18PM EST LEVITE BIG G ...your alive..!!!.....I thot about you last night...we worked the Bedford Blues Festival in Bedford Texas.....Keb Mo headlined....along with Al Green.....good gig....'cept for the damn rain.... 201 Mon, Sep 1, 2:24PM EST LEVITE if I can weigh in on this....I have bag end speakers....and they sit most of the time ....I use the Carvins ...they perform better for me....however im using a SVT III head ...or the Fender 400...depending on the sound I want... 202 Mon, Sep 1, 2:25PM EST LEVITE if I can weigh in on this....I have bag end speakers....and they sit most of the time ....I use the Carvins ...they perform better for me....however im using a SVT III head ...or the Fender 400...depending on the sound I want... 203 Tue, Sep 2, 10:12AM EST big g Levite>Where you been bro, we've been worried? Are you still a record exec? Married 19 years today, gosh I love that woman! 204 Tue, Sep 2, 12:12AM EST anonymous1000 IIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeee ! Bunch-o-basses , where y'all been ? 205 Tue, Sep 2, 4:51PM EST levite/bunch-0-bassesdownto2 hey cats....good to see yall....sorry i havent been around lately...But i will be here more often.... Yep Im still with OmniMusic...and were going wide open... were trying to establish our base with the older artists that still have some left....then with the newTalent as time and economics allow.... 206 Wed, Sep 3, 11:53AM EST big g levite>which 2? 207 Wed, Sep 3, 3:55PM EST Mr.Bass big g> Congrats, I am going on 20 years this October. levite> good to see you back. I think I am going to scale down also. Someone could be using these basses, is the way I am starting to look at it. 208 Wed, Sep 3, 7:31PM EST Luther levite...I was wondering who the Carvin proponent was on this site. It's been so long since I've seen who it was that I forgot. A while back I picked up a slightly used Carvin LB76 for a great price ($400) and much to my surprize, it was a fine bass for a very fine price. I may have posted something to that regard hoping to get some feedback from you or the other pro-Carvin folks, but never heard back. Any thoughts on that line? It's a great piece of equipment...mohogany, neck-thru...ebony finger board...J-99's...it's a nice addition to the family. Like you, I'm using Ampeg gear these days as well. I've been running an SVT-4 Pro through (2) 410 HLF Cassic Series Cabs. It's got snot for sure and I got a great deal on it as well. Defiinitely a Willie Weeks vibe. Also, I've been looking at getting a Musicman Sting Ray-5 with the piezo pick-up. Does anyone here have any experience with that bass with the piezo? I can get a new one for a fantastic price and I'm on the fence (mainly because OT has some REALLY nice stuff for sale that would be roughly around the same cost...and he's only a couple of hours away...I seem to recall an Alembic Series-I with the Omega cut out...). The SansAmp Bass Driver DI manual has a blurb about how it's especially piezo pick-up friendly. Anyone have any info on this? 209 Wed, Sep 3, 10:38PM EST BernieB in the P.T. Luther- Sans Amp Bass Driver is very Piezo Friendly. I prefer the LR Baggs Paracoustic when running straight Piezo on Upright, but the Sans Amp is an electric bass' best friend. Levite- if your still out here in the DFW area let me know. We're still supposed to get together for a cup'o'coffee or something. Congrats to all you well married folks. It took the second time around for me, but they've been five of the best years of my life. The Washburn Bantam 925 has replaced the Lakland as my first string bass. I find this odd as I usually despise Washburn basses, but these 925's are hot. I think those honkin' huge Bartolini's just get a ridiculously nice tone. Surprisingly the low B is a nice sounding string even though it's only a 34" scale. Still love my Roland DB-700 amp. I still can't figure out why they never caught on, but what the hell-works for me. If you can find one of these for the same dirt cheap $699 I paid for mine I urge you to try it. 210 Fri, Sep 5, 5:14PM EST levite Big G....great to hear about the anniversary....and that your still in love....thats WAYKOOL.... the two basses I kept was the DSI I had made and my Alembic fretless Luther...I love the Carvin basses...but I dont play one...I had the DSI built by Hugh Davidson in Denver...the neck is to Ken Smith specs...the body is very Tobias except with a long upper horn like the Bunny Brunnel Carvin ...and with an Omega cutout ...The Alembis is a fourstring Custom Fretless that is buttah.... the Carvin speakers is what I am so onboard with...I love them...I dont care for their head...I use mostly a Fender 400 bass head...or in the studio...Its always through the SVT III then straight to the board... 211 Fri, Sep 5, 5:16PM EST levite Bernie....Im still in Fort Worth....let me know when your here....Illbuy the coffee....you buy the steak... ...how that for a deal? 212 Fri, Sep 5, 10:27PM EST Mr.Bass I was just curious to why you all picked the bass as your main instrument? For me, it was my brothers friend the day after The Beatles were on Ed Sullivan. He came over with a new Silvertone guitar and handed me another one with the E and B off and said, You play bass! I wish it was more romantic than that ...but thats how it started..Interested to see how you guys began, and what the circumstances were? 213 Sat, Sep 6, 2:13AM EST BernieB in the P.T. Levite---If your bored on September 19th or 20th I'll be playing at The Stockyard Saloon. Come on by and introduce yourself. We'll be breaking in a new rhythm guitarist, and seeing if our 5th drummer has gotten his S#!+ together or not. Out of five drummers, only two of them have been able to really hold it down all night. What gives w/these guys lately? What section of Cowtown did you move into?---P.S.---The only steaks I've been eating are the wooden ones. (Stakes) But I will give you a free bottle of designer water. It's all I drink on gigs, unless the bartender gives me free O.J.. 214 Sat, Sep 6, 9:05AM EST Mr.Bass Bernie> I remember holding auditions for drummers for a band that was playing 5 nights a week, and couldn't believe the people that had the nerve to come down when they couldn't even play! It wasn't like we gave them Aja to learn or anything, these were basic songs, it was amazing. 215 Sat, Sep 6, 9:56AM EST big g Mr.Bass>I was always interested in bass singers first. Johnny Cash, the bass vocals for the Temptations, the guy on Lawrence Welk, the bass part from blue moon, (bompitibomp etc.)but thought I wanted to be a six stringer. Even when I was playing guitar I gravitated to the bottom strings. Did I mention that I have a very deep voice? One day the light bulb(and a job as a bassplayer was offered)went on around the time I was 19, and I've been playing bass every since. 216 Sat, Sep 6, 10:05AM EST Mr.Bass big g> That's pretty cool, I never would have even thought someone could get involved through voice, which is the most wonderful instrument of all. 217 Sun, Sep 7, 8:58PM EST crimins Mr. Bass > actually, I started out on g*****r playing rhythm in a garage band. Then the guy playing bass wanted to play a Farfisa organ (showing my age here), so I moved over to the bass. Been hooked ever since. 218 Sun, Sep 7, 8:59PM EST crimins That was 37 years ago. 219 Sun, Sep 7, 11:16PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Crimins> Hey Farfisas were pretty cool, but how about those Vox Jaguars. And who could ever forget the infamous Mellotron. But these things did help bring the Hammond B-3 back to the forefront for awhile. Mr. Bass- I got interested in the bass at an earlier age than many, as can be seen by my knowledge of older keyboards. (Seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan was a starting point. A few years later the theme song to "Hair" was all over the radio at that time, and that was a pretty hot bass line. I could not shake that sound out of my head, but my parents were tired of paying for piano lessons for my sisters etc. who never really wanted to learn piano in the first place. If I wanted to learn music--- I was on my own. I did not finally act upon the bass till I had finished scrimping and saving my school lunch money. W/that I bought the infamous Hagstrom 8-string from Pete's Pawn Shop. Cost- $150.00.- Later on, I found an add for the Fender Tremolux amp in the local paper. Cost--$125.00.-- From there came several decades of intense practice and lots of fun. The Cost-Priceless. 220 Mon, Sep 8, 8:26AM EST levite Bernie...Ill be there one of the nights...prolly the 19th...I'm up in Marine Creek..north of FW....but I know the stockyards well. as for how I started on the bass.....I just loved the sounds of the bottom....and eveyrone was preaching about groove....thats when i noticed that the song is won or lost on the bassline.... by first one was a Sears Silvertone (danelectro)....I had it till a few months ago when a dealer offered me more than I thot it was worth.....bye bye bass... 221 Mon, Sep 8, 8:17PM EST BernieB in the P.T. Levite ---and others ----you can e-mail me @ Berniez40@ev1.net My personal addy. Peace, love, bass! 222 Mon, Sep 8, 11:06PM EST anonymous helo 223 Tue, Sep 9, 10:59AM EST crimins Bernie > You're right about the Vox. I always thought Alan Price of the Animals made that thing sound pretty cool. However, the Farfisa's were used on a lot of the big bubble gum hits of the '60s - Double Shot (Swinging Medallions), 96 Tears (? and the Mysterians), etc. I always thought the Farfisa's sounded like crap. But then when I first heard Steve Winwood on "Gimme Some Lovin'", that did it, man. The Hammond B3 was IT as far as organs were concerned and everything else paled in comparison. 224 Tue, Sep 9, 1:09PM EST crimins I have a true story about ? and the Mysterians. In the laste '60s, my band opened for them at a couple of gigs here in north Florida. I think they were originally from the Detroit area and were of Hispanic descent. They didn't have any roadies, so the band members, with the exception of "?" of course, set up their equipment. The organ player was a little short guy, and he had a mic and stand in his hand up on the stage. "?" was standing nearby with his sunglasses on watching his guys set up, so the little keyboard guy says "Hey, Question, where do you want the microphone"? Now you would have thought that these guys being on the road together and having a hit record would at least call refer to each other by their real names (never did know what "?'s" real name was, but I guess that was part of the mystique). I thought it qas quite funny that they called him "Question". 225 Tue, Sep 9, 1:14PM EST crimins Second ? and the Mysterians story (true). On the second gig we did with them about a year later, they had a different drummer. All I can remember about him was that they set this huge truck tire and rim in front of the kick drum to keep it from sliding on the stage. Plus the guy had a huge pot belly, wearing only a vest and no shirt. And again, Question Mark did not do any equipment setup, but just stood cooly by with his sunglasses on. Ture story - in Palatka, Florida. 226 Tue, Sep 9, 3:53PM EST JohnnieA Continuing old band stories Back in 65 I decided I needed some bass lessons and checked into the store were I had bought my 64 St. George (a P bass Japanese clone). After about nine months with Klouse Paulski, he had mentioned a studio job he had finished that past weekend with a local singer by the name of Sonny Geraci. He told me they had brought in string and horn players from the Cleveland Symphony, a keyboard player and a lead guitar player and knocked out this tune called Time Won t Let Me . He showed me the bass part and he played the chords. I guess early in 66 the tune was released. About a year later, our guitar player was called up through the draft to work for Uncle Sam, so we were looking for a replacement. We auditioned this player who asked if we knew Time Won t Let Me . We said sure, who doesn t cover that tune and we proceeded to knock it out. When we got to the lead guitar part we all dropped our jaws cause it was perfect to the note. A few minutes later we found out we were auditioning Al Austin who did the original lead guitar the Time Won t Let Me . Al was with us until his death in a car accident later that summer. True Story- big g>> a belated 'Happy Anniversary' to you and your wife. 26 this past July for Cathy and I. 227 Tue, Sep 9, 4:21PM EST crimins JohnnieA > and believe it or not, my band opened a show for the so-called "Outsiders" in the late '60s as well. Whether or not they were the real deal is unknown, but that's how they were billed. There was also a band traveling around the southeast booked by an unscrupulous promoter billed as the Zombies at that time as well, but I knew some of them, and they were just good-ole westside Jacksonville boys, who put on fake British accents when they played these small, unknowing Florida and Georgia towns. ? and the Mysterians were the real thing however. I checked the album cover for their pics. 228 Tue, Sep 9, 4:48PM EST JohnnieA crimins>> To the best of my knowledge, the only Outsider on the Time Won t Let Me original is Sonny Geraci. All others were local studio musicians reading the basic charts and making up their lines. I suppose The Outsiders were not the only band that started out as just a lead singer and a group of studio guys. Gee, I used to occasionally work at Audio Recorders here in Phoenix in the early 70 s for just singers who needed a back-up band. Audio Recorders was the only studio in town at the time and was all of 7 tracks of analog beauty. Even had a tiled echo room for those special effects . Doubt if any of these singers became famous, then again I can t remember any of their names . I wonder if anyone ever called Mr. Mark. hehehe 229 Tue, Sep 9, 11:10PM EST Berni B in the P.T. The one brush I had with a fading rock star had to be this burnt out cat we met while auditioning keyboard players during my glam rock years. (Anyone remember Kansas). Our band did a bunch of Kansas, Styx, etc. at the time. While auditioning keyboardists we had a guy show up whose brain cells were definitely post toasties, but he still kept decent time and played fairly well. There was a little bit left under all the rust. Claimed he used to play for The Lovin' Spoonful." Turned out he did, but only as a summer tour keyboardist. This guy still had an old Mellotron and Vox Jaguar stashed away in his apartment. Along w/the B-3 he hauled out for the audition. A shame he didn't have a mini-moog and some of that other fancy crap we needed back then in the glam years. 230 Wed, Sep 10, 2:45PM EST crimins On the thread of "fake" '60s bands, that same unscrupulous promoter wanted my band to go out as "The Buchanan Brothers" about that same time period. I remember they were "one-hit wonders" but don't remember the name of the hit. I politely refused his request to go out faking it as a natiaonally known act in small towns where no one would know the difference. 231 Fri, Sep 12, 9:50AM EST crimins RIP Johnny Cash. A true legend. 232 Fri, Sep 12, 5:32PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. I agree. Johnny was a real trooper, and a working class hero. Lord knows I've gone down in a ring of fire or two myself. 233 Fri, Sep 12, 6:01PM EST Levite I imagine Johnny will be spending the night watching June dance on a pony keg somewhere in Jackson. "the taste of love is sweet, when hearts like ours meet. I fell for you like a child, oh but the flames went wild." 234 Fri, Sep 12, 7:24PM EST anonymous1000 Well said Bayou-Boy... 235 Sat, Sep 13, 10:44AM EST big g "Because your mine, I walk the line". RIP Johnny 236 Mon, Sep 15, 5:48PM EST levite does anyone know who got the bass gig backing Simon and Garfunkel on their upcoming tour? 237 Tue, Sep 16, 7:02PM EST anonymous1000 Me...! 238 Thu, Sep 18, 9:33PM EST Bernie B in the P.T. Levite>Hope to see you at the stockyard saloon tomorrow night. 239 Mon, Sep 22, 6:08PM EST anonymous 240 Mon, Sep 22, 6:09PM EST Mr.Bass I wouldn't be surprised if it was Daryl Jones, Lee Sklar...or maybe big g 241 Mon, Sep 22, 6:10PM EST Mr.Bass we need a spell check in here LOL 242 Mon, Sep 22, 6:11PM EST ampig I use 2 svt 18's and svt-4-pro head.what thunder!!!overkill?of course! but THATS BASS BABY!!!j_johnson@accesscomm.ca 243 Mon, Sep 22, 11:33PM EST Mr.Bass My back gave out long before my SVT did...bought in the 70's, I was just was wiping the dust off of that baby tonight! I forgot how heavey the head alone was.... if you have roadies...more power to you! 244 Tue, Sep 23, 10:47PM EST AzBug Levite: I would have to guess Bakithi Kumalo. He's been backing Paul Simon for years, and since Simon seems to conduct/control the instrumental side of the duo... Mr. Bass: Leland would be a good guess as well. Especially if they were going retro. Bringing back as many of the 'Old Schoolers' as possible. Now, my personal choice? I'd like to see g get the gig! :-) 245 Wed, Sep 24, 4:14PM EST Mr.Bass I requested a DVD from this bass player who was shopping his talents, can't find it at the moment, but I was impressed at the quality and thought that is a great way to network. Here you have a medium that shows who you are visually and how you play, stage presence etc. modern technology is amazing. I used to have to send a cass. that I made on a panasonic hand held recorder... things surely have changed. 246 Thu, Sep 25, 3:17PM EST big g coincidence or planned obsolesence? While unloading my 2-10 cab after church on Saturday I noticed that one of the speaker wires was visible in the port. After opening up the cab I discovered one of the tabs on the back of speaker was torn completely off. Fortunately the speaker has two tabs for each side so I reattached it to the remaining tab. Then when I checked it out only the fixed tab speaker worked?? I checked the other speaker and the clip of the other speaker was broken off completely on the wire! I for the life of me can't figure out why both would give up at the same time. Paul, my rig is working fine now and my bags are packed, give me a call. I'm waiting by my phone. 247 Thu, Sep 25, 11:21PM EST the levitical one big G....the devil gets in our rigs when we play the church gig..... 248 Fri, Sep 26, 6:04PM EST anonymous teste 249 Fri, Sep 26, 6:04PM EST anonymous teste 2 250 Fri, Sep 26, 6:06PM EST anonymous testado 251 Mon, Sep 29, 3:02PM EST crimins Levite/Big G > not if you use a 25 year old Peavey 400 bass rig. The devil leaves that monster alone! 252 Mon, Sep 29, 3:02PM EST crimins Anaon > tostada, anyone? 253 Tue, Sep 30, 2:37PM EST levite crimmins....if you find one of the old Peavey LTDs amp...let me know... 254 Thu, Oct 2, 3:45PM EST Archer J Cash got me thinking about tac bass. Any tips? Just throw some felt under the bridge? 255 Thu, Oct 2, 3:47PM EST crimins Archer > get yourself a Danelectro. 256 Thu, Oct 2, 10:44PM EST AATS Very little action in here lately I see, just went to see Steely Dan , they started the night with Aja...how the heck that drummer did all those cuts for a first song and no warm up is beyond me, it was great! 257 Fri, Oct 3, 8:58AM EST crimins Here's the hog I'm talking about > button 258 Fri, Oct 3, 7:35PM EST Luther AATS...where did you see them? When I saw them at SPAC this summer, they opened with the same song. Being that we're both from Saratoga, I haven't seen them listed locally. By the way who do you play drums with? 259 Sat, Oct 4, 1:52AM EST wow two good gigs are opening up in TX, things are either gonna get real good or real bad for somebody. just a fyi, no mas 260 Sat, Oct 4, 9:00AM EST big g crimins> few years back I had one of those for a while. I actually prefered its sound over an old Kustom 200 I had. Unfortunately it didn't prove to be dependable. I got it used, so who knows what it went through. I traded in its carcass and some coin for the Sunn! So you could say, its contributing to my current sound. 261 Sat, Oct 4, 9:37AM EST crimins G > Well, I must have gotten a good one. This thing is 25 years old and the only work I've had done on it was to replace some filters a few years back. That's Peavey - sounds like crap, but dependable (at least for me). 262 Sat, Oct 4, 11:21AM EST levite we had a blues band in the studio this week....(just cuttin a demo for them....the bassist...had a MONSTER ampeg rig...SVT4 and a 8x10 cab....then he hauls out an ESP bass....I almost choked.... he ended up using my bass 263 Sun, Oct 5, 1:38AM EST AATS Luther>...I saw them at Mohegan Sun Casino, I play in a band in and around Lake George called Prime Time. Well, I don't actually play in the Lake, my skins would get a little wet. Sorry, it's late, that was a bad joke. 264 Sun, Oct 5, 7:44AM EST Luther AATS...the only Prime Time I've ever heard of is a 10 piece horn band with some Eastman grads in it. Would that be the band you're in? If you work in Lake George, you must be hooked up with Steve Silverman. It's not easy to find good work in Warren County without going through Steve. Luckily, I've had a good working relationship with him for years. 265 Mon, Oct 6, 9:56AM EST big g For anyone in the Indy area, this is today's special. big g's dotd button 266 Tue, Oct 7, 10:25AM EST anonymous does any one knows a good blues tabs web site? 267 Thu, Oct 9, 11:04AM EST big g Here is a real rare amp. Price is still reasonable, dotd? button 268 Sun, Oct 12, 10:33AM EST Skiball Holy bag!!! Aint been here in a WHILE! Sure do miss you guys. Hope this post finds you all well. Daddyhood has put the breaks on the bass thing in a big way! but what a trade-off. Ski Jr. turns two in Dec. He makes me laugh every day.Last night he came in when I was watching football, pointed to the tv and said COME ON MAN!! (LOL)! He teaches me a lot about what life is about. besides, what is makeing music without inspiration.Ok-enough non-musical dribble. Peace be with you,keep it phat, and GO BROWNS!! 269 Sun, Oct 12, 10:44AM EST Skiball On a musical note- Anybodt see/play the vew Peavey Pro 500 head?Looks bad ass. I dont think Ive ever seen a FULLY parametric EQ on an amp before. Plus a a 12ax7 in the front end with seperate gain and level BEFORE the master volume. And 500 watts is perfect for pub/club gigs.(sheesh... you'd think I was a peavy salesman....hmmmm) 270 Sun, Oct 12, 10:48AM EST Skiball One more thing- Ill be in Tenn in 2 weeks for a weeked loisville/cleveland area I believe to be near knoksville. Any live or know any cool sites up there? 271 Sun, Oct 12, 12:51AM EST AzBug Hey Ski! Good to hear from ya' I envy you with your boy. Here I am, 41 years old and still no kids...*Sigh* Well, I still have faith and know my joy will be much the same as yours. God bless...... On another note; Have any of you guys seen the Tommy Dowd documentary yet? It's been playing on the Sundance (Independent Film stuff) Network. It's called 'Tom Dowd: The Language Of Music'. What a great show! A whole ton of history not only on Tom himself, but on the advent of stereo and multi-track recording. They even show recent footage of Les Paul in his original multi-track studio. I had NO idea Les Paul was the father of multi-track recording! There's also some reaffirmation on the plain ol' truth; Bass MAKES a song what it is! These guys say so...I'm with 'em. :-) There's a bunch of historical stuff on Dowd as engineer and producer for most of the Southern Fried Rock bands; Skynyrd, Marshall Tucker, The Allman Bro's, etc. He was also the engineer on Clapton's "Layla" album. Cool little history on how Allman ended up playing on that track. Knowing most of you guys I think you'd enjoy it. Catch it if you can. Peace! 272 Mon, Oct 20, 9:03AM EST big g Effects??? Anyone using them? How much? As many times as I have tried them, they seem to sound good at home at low volumes, but when used at stage levels I have never been happy with the sound. Any tricks to make them sound better? 273 Mon, Oct 20, 5:11PM EST crimins G > the only effects I use, other than slight compression, is through my Korg Bass Pandora PXB-3. I use a particular setting to give my fretless a little more "Mwah" midrange, and I also use a chorus effect on the fretless occasionally. 274 Tue, Oct 21, 9:45PM EST Rbacker Hi guys, long time no see. Hope all is well and I'm happy to see familiar titles up here. Been playing off and on at church. All is well with the family. No internet since we moved. Hoping to get a dish system soon so I can catch up with yawl again. take care and keep the strings ringin' 275 Tue, Oct 21, 11:44PM EST Mr.Bass big g> I used an ADA MB-1 preamp for the longest time, it was for a slight chorus effect, I was trying to establish my own sound. But I eventually went back straight to the amp for me it was K.I.S.S., cause everytime I made my sound more complex it was increasingly difficult to keep the sound the same in every room when the acoustics changed, never really got the hang of it. Rb> Good to see you back, get that dish workin! 276 Wed, Oct 22, 8:54AM EST big g " cause everytime I made my sound more complex it was increasingly difficult to keep the sound the same in every room when the acoustics changed, never really got the hang of it." Exactly! Good to see the KISS method is used everywhere. LOL Rb, We miss you man. Hows the new home? Don't stay such a stranger. 277 Thu, Oct 23, 10:14PM EST Archer I run fx through the upper of two 4x10 cabs w/ a high pass filter. This keeps the fundamentals clean. 278 Fri, Oct 24, 11:59AM EST AzBug Archer: That's about the best way I have ever heard of doing it. I'm interested in how you run your signal chain? How do you send the effected signal to one cab and a clean signal to the other? I rarely run 2 cabs, but when I do they are pretty much daisy chained with the same signal. I have all but given up on effects. I use a little chorus for fretless(sometimes), but I have found the only way to get it to cut through the mix is with volume. Lately, I just use a little bit of reverb, if anything at all..... Hey! Just got tickets to see King Crimson next week. I am bummed to see that Tony Levin isn't with them this time around. I guess he is still touring with Peter Gabriel? 279 Sat, Oct 25, 10:22AM EST Luther Regarding effects, I have a small pedal board with an in-line tuner, phase shifter, ocaver, MuTron 3 and a SansAmp Bass Driver DI. The SansAmp gets the most use, the and octave pedal are used mainly for playing "Sledgehammer" by Peter Gabriel (coincidentally with respect to the Tony Levin mention in the post above). The Mutron is for the occasional Bootsy riff and Grateful Dead tune. The tuner is nice to keep it quiet on-stage both for the instrument change with the line interuption and for tuning. All if them were x-mas presents from my wife over the years. Amazing woman. She threatening to get me a Musicman 5-string this year. I guess I wasn't naughty this year, LOL. I'm also very intrigued by Archer's configuration. It sound great. How's it run? RE: the King Crimson comment: I imagine Trey Gunn is with them. I met him after a Project Two show in Albany, NY a while ago. Really nice guy. Belew was on v-drums for that gig. What a great rhythm section. Fripp was aloof, of course, but he played great. I have a bootleg of the show if any of your are interested. Somebody here lives near Jimmy Smith in CA. It's either big g or someone else. I seem to remember comments about seeing him at jams every now and then. I just got a copy of "dot com blues" or something like that. He's got a great band with him and plenty of guest spots from Dr. John and Etta James. Reggie McBride is on bass. Great record. Anyone else here familiar with it? 280 Sat, Oct 25, 11:58AM EST big g Yep, Jimmy Smith, the baddest B3 player in the world, lives in Wilton about 60 miles from me. Just incredible bass, played with his feet. Luther, I'll look around for that CD, thanks for the tip. 281 Mon, Oct 27, 9:57PM EST Archer Re FX: Run the system bi amped and have the FX loop above the crossover and/or get an FX with a filter where you can adjust the low frequencies to go through dry. Of course finding serious technology specificaly for bass is a little rare but my Boss GT-6B has a filter. I have mixed feelings about the Boss though, getting allot of unwanted cipping in the preamp stage with different basses and after swapping out the unit.I still cannot use the pre amp modeling, erk. If you do get one work it hard the first few days/weeks and be ready to take it back with a grain of salt. Here's a slow loading link for the Boss button On a different note a friend of mine has mandatory big band rehearsal in Simi Valley so it could be worse. I wonder if they will do versions of Fire on the Mountian or Band on the Run? Thanks for the up's on Crimson et al. 282 Tue, Oct 28, 3:46AM EST Lenoard drop the extra dot on the url to get there, and uh,, that was clipping. 283 Tue, Oct 28, 10:36AM EST Harry Potter think about "where's Moony"?? 284 Fri, Oct 31, 5:54AM EST Ernie Ball Simi Valley? Not too far from me in the San Fernando Valley. (Speaking of Southern Califonia) Of course with all the fires from Simi to San Diego, plus the MTA strike-the freeways have been pretty crowded. Mandatory big band practice? It's tough getting 4-5 guys to practice, but I do like the word, "mandatory." 285 Fri, Oct 31, 6:06AM EST Ernie Ball By the way, Jack Bruce, the former bass player and vocalist with the 1960s supergroup Cream, is recovering from a near-fatal liver transplant, his record label said. Bruce, 60, underwent the transplant after being diagnosed with liver cancer during the summer, Sanctuary Records said in a statement. He almost died after his body rejected the new liver, his kidneys failed and an infection set in. There is more on info on his website-www.jackbruce.com. I read it, via Reuters, 10/17/03. 286 Sat, Nov 1, 10:57PM EST anonymous BASS PLAYER NEEDED to complete an established band. Progressive rock with hard-core influences. No drugs, no egos, ready to be a team player. Call Marcella (vocalist) 773-612-1933 or info@othersense.com 287 Sat, Nov 1, 10:58PM EST anonymous we are in chicago 288 Mon, Nov 3, 7:51PM EST anonymous1000 You pay travel expenses ? ;) 289 Sat, Nov 8, 9:23AM EST anonymous I have question about ohms... whats the difference between conneting cabs in parrallel or serial regarding? Is there a difference? Two 8's make a 4, but what if you connect to 8's in a series, does this also make 4? 290 Sat, Nov 8, 9:36AM EST big g 2 8 ohms in series equal 16 ohms 291 Sat, Nov 8, 11:20AM EST big g 2 8 ohms in series equal 16 ohms 292 Sun, Nov 9, 1:09AM EST anonymous hello 293 Sun, Nov 9, 3:02AM EST hello anonymous 294 Sun, Nov 9, 10:43AM EST anonymous Does anyone use Aguilar cabs? What is your opinion? 295 Sun, Nov 9, 5:17PM EST rockinredneck69 hello 296 Sun, Nov 9, 5:18PM EST rockinredneck69 anyone there? 297 Wed, Nov 12, 8:32AM EST levite I just did a gig using the Aguilar 4X12 cabinet.....its a hoss....a big hoss....to bad it wasnt mine... 298 Fri, Nov 14, 2:03AM EST I like my extended range SVT-410HLF. ampeg.com button Ernie, yeah LA is cool, the business is here and we have the greater LA area for anywhere U.S.A gigs. 299 Sun, Nov 16, 12:23AM EST Ernie Ball I am not in the market for another bass cabinet, but if I were, I would definately check out the well constructed Ammpeg Pro Series Enclosure 410HLF from the above referenced site. The PRO810H (8x10+horn/Driver); wieghs in at 212 lbs!! 13 ply void free Baltic birch? Best to all of 'ya! 300 Mon, Nov 17, 4:55PM EST Ernie Ball Thanks for the Ampeg cabinet tip, friend. Please use a "handle", or screen name, so we know who you are, otherwise people might assume it's me, being verbose again. Excuse the typos, from my previous post. Sticky keyboard. Spelling weigh, ampeg; 100x, Yes LA is cool temp wise ss well,from the recent heat wave. What's going on across the country, this fine November day? Anyone? 301 Tue, Nov 18, 10:39AM EST JohnnieA Rather chilly in Phoenix today, only a predicted high of 69. Mid 70's for most of the week starting tomorrow. Other than that, it s just another day gig work experience. My SSS guitar will be demonstrated by Fred Robinson at Barwinkles this Friday night if anyone is in Glendale AZ. for the weekend. Later......... 302 Tue, Nov 18, 11:04AM EST big g Rain yesterday, Sunny and clear today, it might hit 60. Johnnie>glad to hear you haven't abandoned the SSS project. I still think it is a design that's ahead of its time. I am surprized that one of these "forward thinking luthiers" hasn't picked up on it yet. 303 Tue, Nov 18, 12:55AM EST JohnnieA big g>> Actually, the project is on indefinite hold. I just ran into this player last weekend and he indicated his excitement to demo the SSS. I couldn't say no... This guy is one heck of a guitar player It will be more of a buzz for me to see it played by a real pro. 304 Tue, Nov 18, 2:15PM EST crimins Well, to keep everyone posted - I'm back on the Barry Lee Harwood (of Rossing-Collins Band fame from the early '80s) project that I had started out on last year. He had originally asked me to play bass on his "Chariot" project button but then decided to go with Timmy Lindsay button , but he and Timmy didn't share the same vision for the project, so now I'm back in. I pays to not burn bridges, right? Anyway, I have about a month and a half to learn the tunes for the project before we go to Belmont University in Nashville the last week of December to record at their teaching studio, which is supposed to be state-of-the-art. Hey, it's good to have a project to work on, although I don't consider myself a Southern Rocker, and am certainly not part of the Southern Rock royalty here in Jacksonville (Skynyrd, 38 Special, Molly Hatchet, Blackfoot, early Allmans, etc.), I'm glad to be thought of to be included since I've certainly paid my dues here in Jax over the last 35+ years. BTW - I'm still dealing with the big "C" and still going through chemo. But as I say, I'm still eatin', workin' sleepin', and most importantly - "PICKIN'". I sure appreciate you guys support. 305 Tue, Nov 18, 2:17PM EST crimins Try this button for Harwood button 306 Tue, Nov 18, 3:17PM EST crimins Maybe most importantly I'm still BREATHIN' thank God. 307 Tue, Nov 18, 5:48PM EST skiball Crim my brother you inspire me.Sounds like a fun session you have coming up. I envey you. Now go have some fun and lets give the C a good ol' southern ass bust'n! T's and P's to ya bro. 308 Tue, Nov 18, 6:04PM EST Bernie B. in the P.T. Been a while since I've been here. Congrats Crimins. Belmont is supposed to kick serios bootay! I think you will dig it. Your experience is one for us all to remember. I never burn bridges either. Amazing how clean living keeps those gigs coming back. P.S.- You're still on our prayer chain. 309 Wed, Nov 19, 0:03AM EST Mr.Bass Crimins glad to see your are back ......Just picked up a Dean Rhapsody 8 string Bass. This baby has a nice tone, and you don't have to mortgaged your house to own one. 310 Wed, Nov 19, 10:33AM EST levite crimmins...you willl LOVE Belmonts studio....it is state of the art....good luck with the sessions....and we pray for you every day....stay strong and keep playin. Bernie....post your itenerary....Ill get out to hear yall..... Ill be at wild horse saloon or crazy horse saloon..(or sompin like that)...in Lewisville on Thursday nite....I have a band booked in there...(i have them book these joints to work on their stage show for next year) 311 Wed, Nov 19, 7:33PM EST old timer crimmins...stay strong and remain positive... 312 Thu, Nov 20, 8:22AM EST crimins I appreciate your kinds words guys. 313 Sat, Nov 22, 3:35AM EST schven veiner he folks 314 Sat, Nov 22, 10:27AM EST big g Hi Schven. 315 Sat, Nov 22, 6:43PM EST anonymous What up ???????????????????????? 316 Sat, Nov 22, 6:44PM EST anonymous Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! Dummy!!!!!!!! 317 Sat, Nov 22, 6:45PM EST anonymous What Are We Talking About???? 318 Sat, Nov 22, 6:47PM EST anonymous Answere Me Please!!!!!! 319 Sat, Nov 22, 6:49PM EST Goober Dummy"s!!!!! 320 Sat, Nov 22, 6:50PM EST Goober Ha! Ha! Ha! Shven!!! 321 Sat, Nov 22, 6:52PM EST Goober You Flying Fuck"s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 322 Sat, Nov 22, 8:21PM EST red dog There is no need for vulgar language in here. 323 Mon, Nov 24, 11:56AM EST AzBug crimins: as always, you are in my prayers, my friend. Hang in there, and you will beat this stuff, once and for all!...... If anyone is interested, I have posted MP3's of a couple of the projects I have worked on recently (the last couple of years). Check it out and let me know what you think. button 324 Mon, Nov 24, 7:13PM EST anonymous hola hay alguien que hables espa 325 Mon, Nov 24, 7:14PM EST anonymous hello 326 Mon, Nov 24, 7:15PM EST german hello 327 Mon, Nov 24, 7:54PM EST big g Azbug>Your tone is awesome. Great playing too! I liked all 3 songs. Can any of you guys point me to someone who might have an ABG tailpiece trapeze? I'm putting together a Frankenstein ABG and all I need now is a tailpiece and a bridge. If I can't find one I may try a fender type, but I worried about the top flexing with all the string pull. Any ideas? TIA 328 Mon, Nov 24, 11:15PM EST big g Azbug>Your tone is awesome. Great playing too! I liked all 3 songs. Can any of you guys point me to someone who might have an ABG tailpiece trapeze? I'm putting together a Frankenstein ABG and all I need now is a tailpiece and a bridge. If I can't find one I may try a fender type, but I worried about the top flexing with all the string pull. Any ideas? TIA 329 Mon, Nov 24, 11:15PM EST big g Oops sorry for the double post, darn browser. 330 Wed, Nov 26, 2:57PM EST levite azbug...good sound....I like it.....thanks for sharing it with us... Yall have a great Thanksgiving. 331 Thu, Nov 27, 12:31AM EST Skiball Happy turkey day to all my low end bruddas-Peace 332 Sat, Nov 29, 10:44PM EST Burp Az, sounds good I agree with Big G above. I'll add my 2 cents and please disregard without much concern but,, I hear allot of vocal and bass with some neat stuff going on at times and often in the background. I might bring some other instruments to the forground to be as strong as the two mentioned. Anyway it's good stuff and you should be happy. 333 Wed, Dec 3, 3:52PM EST AzBug Coolness. Thanks for the comments and recommends fella's. I had a lot of fun doing these recordings. I learned a whole ton of stuff in the studio when doing the ARP stuff. I wish I could go back and remix some the stuff, but I was just the bass player! *LOL*............. g: Something you might try, as afr as getting ahold of a usable tailpiece is to call Steve Azola. He is quite a vintage collector and would probably be able to steer you to a suitable piece. Another advantage with Steve is, he's a master luthier and could probably build you something to order. I gotta warn ya', if you call him make sure to do it when you have some time on your hands. Get him on the 'Vintage Piece Parts' topic and he'll talk your ear off!*LOL* 334 Thu, Dec 4, 12:15AM EST big g Az> thanks for the recomendation. I found one for $10 from one of my parts wanted ads. Love the net. My neck arrives today, I'm keeping my fingers crossed its decent. All I need now is some small springs for my pickup adjustment. I made my pickup adjustment bracket from some old scrap L brackets I found. At this point I'm going to install the pickup without controls just to see if it works and how it sounds. I will post a picture of this mutt once I get it completed. On another front, I just joined a country band last night. The leader, is a song writer and has very good stage presence. Their drummer is supposed to be great, I'm looking forward to practicing with him Saturday. 335 Thu, Dec 4, 12:55AM EST JohnnieA big g>> springs> If you don't want to wait for someplace like Stu Mac to deliver the springs to you, I have had good luck at Ace Hardware. You can buy the longer spring and simply cut to the size you need. Has worked well for me. Sorry I don't have the exact number for the spring I use, but you'll know when you see them at the store. AZ Enjoyed your tunes! 336 Thu, Dec 4, 1:57PM EST big g Thanks Johnnie A. I think we even have an Ace nearby. ;0) Neck not here yet............ 337 Fri, Dec 5, 6:59AM EST efcleff rock-on...nice web site...hello to all you low frequency bottom dwellers. 338 Fri, Dec 5, 11:11AM EST big g efcleff>Welcome aboard! All>> My neck arrived. It is exactly as described. I'm pretty sure its not a genuine Fender Jazz neck even though thats what the decals says LOL (yes, the seller did disclose this). It has jazz dimensions. Skunk stripe on the back and truss rod adjustment at the headstock which is functional. All in all I think I scored. If my franken bass doesn't pan out I can always use it on another body. 339 Sun, Dec 7, 8:19AM EST big g The country band didn't work out. The leader changed his mind about me playing their upcoming gig, but if I wanted to stay on an work with him in the future......I knew there was a problem when his wife asked him to replay one of the songs I was still learning, without the bass and rhythm guitar. Their great drummer didn't show because he is mending from a beating he took a few days ago "trying to break up a fight in a bar". When I'm told one thing on wednesday and another on saturday its time to cut my losses and move on. What really stood my hair up is the fact that they are going to play the gig without a bassist, just shows how much respect we get. The fellow who suggested I give this band a try said the "lifelong friend" rhythm player, should be the one walking. Oh well, more time for the Voxder bass project. :o) 340 Sun, Dec 7, 3:51PM EST AzBug Sounds like passing on this one is the best thing to do, g. A country gig without a Bass player? Hmmmm... I'm glad I'm not the one hiring them for the gig! When are we gonna see pic's of your frankenbass? 341 Sun, Dec 7, 10:09PM EST big g The frankenbass (voxder) is getting closer to completion. Just a few more small parts are needed. I widened the neck pocket today and fit the neck. As soon as I craft a 1/2" spacer block to match the neck butt, I can mount the neck/ install the electronics, and string it up! 342 Sun, Dec 7, 10:23PM EST big g If Willie Nelson played bass, it would look something like the voxder. LOL 343 Wed, Dec 10, 5:49PM EST Luther big g...I believe Wille Nelson DID play bass a while back. There were rumors about his affiliation with some early Elvis recordings, but I can't be sure. I once saw a picture of him (circa the late 50's) wearing a suit and holding a Fender P-bass. Can anyone in here substantiate this? Also, big g , did you ever score that Jimmy Smith CD? 344 Wed, Dec 10, 10:55PM EST lowlifer Maybe you're thinking of Waylon Jennings he played bass in the late 50's. In fact he was supose to be on the plane that crashed with Buddie Holley, the Big Bopper, and Richie Valenz(sic). 345 Wed, Dec 10, 11:40PM EST anonymous I, as an offical member of the Mr. W. Nelson fan club, I own 120 tapes and cd's, can asure he never played base 346 Thu, Dec 11, 8:31AM EST crimins Anon > well, maybe he never played base (1st, 2nd, or 3rd), but did he ever play BASS? 347 Thu, Dec 11, 8:32AM EST crimins BTW > heading for Nashville to record with Barry Lee Harwood (of Rossington-Collins Band, Allen Collins Band fame) at Belmont Univ. studios on New Year's weekend. Can't wait! 348 Thu, Dec 11, 12:11AM EST Archer Any old wives tales for taking care of you hands? Playing mondo hours and doing the usual stuff. 349 Fri, Dec 12, 3:28PM EST levite Willie Nelson has played bass on numerous recordings in Twangtown....in his early years....he was a top session hand on both guitar and bass...in the 50s.... 350 Sat, Dec 13, 5:58AM EST are we off base or at the big PX? 351 Sun, Dec 14, 8:35AM EST big g Archer> Glucosamine/Chrondroitin has been working for my old body joints. It takes about 30 days before it really starts to kick in but joint pain has been subsiding. One of our regulars, I think OT or Mr.Bass gave me this>> Find a long even flat plane such as table or counter top. Lay your left arm down so that the forearm---and most definitely the palm of your hand are flat against the surface. Relax your arm as much as possible. Now with the right hand gently grab your LEFT thumb and SLOWLY pull it backwards away from the surface. Bend it back until you feel it fully stretched out. If you have crossed a threshold of pain you have just gone TOO FAR. RELEASE IMMEDIATELY and begin again. At the point that it is fully stretched---BUT NOT PAINFUL---you will stop and count for 5 seconds. Then you will release it and let it relax. Next to the pointer finger. Same steps. After releasing and relaxing it you do the Middle Finger Next. Then Third Finger and then Pinky. Now repeat the Thumb. Now pull back Pointer and Middle Finger Simultaneously. Now Third Finger and Pinky Simultaneously. Now repeat the Thumb again. Now Pull back all Four fingers simultaneously. Remember to ALWAYS let the finger(s) you have just released return to the surface before moving on to the next one, and to make sure that the forearm and palm remain FLAT AGAINST THE SURFACE. Work your time up SLOWLY. Five seconds is an excellent starting point. Do not rush. I can do them for 30 second intervals, but it took me three years to get here. DO NOT RUSH AHEAD. Two seconds a week is a fairly aggressive pace. Remember----PAIN IS NO GAIN---RELAX. You are bending your tendons backwards. They are not used to this. Eventually they will be so flexible that the constant curling in one direction will be of little consequence. Please try and post your results. I will be most interested to see if I have been able to help someone else as much as this has helped me. 352 Wed, Dec 17, 2:56PM EST Archer Thanks I'll add it to my routine. Also the latest gig is flamenco, frettless w/ allot of fusion playing. Cool for a "legit" gig. Crimins sounds like fun good luck with everything, we are thinking of you. Also AZ, thanks for all the hardware postings and mentoring, although I think you should play at the Jar once a month for a year. lol 353 Thu, Dec 18, 9:41PM EST big g Voxder update. I found threaded inserts at the Jackson True Value. $.56 ea. My local cabinet maker donated a very resonant piece of alder for the neck spacer block. It should work well with the maple neck. I think I now have all parts needed to complete the voxder. It was very unnerving to drill the neck for the inserts. It really needed to be done on a drillpress. It came out ok, at least I didnt drill through to the fretboard. :0) I will probably bolt the neck on this weekend. Once I get it playable, I will mount the pickup assembly. I'm keeping my fingers crossed the neck joint will be strong enough. I'm gaining a lot respect for the quality luthiers out there. Its so easy to fubar the thing and have junk in one quick instant. 354 Tue, Dec 23, 10:15AM EST JohnnieA Seasons Grettings to all the low enders from Cathy and John A. May your New Year be a healthy and prosperous one. 355 Tue, Dec 23, 9:28PM EST Mr.Bass Hey Fellas! It's great to be back online! I inadvertantly downloaded one of those cursed viruses. I had to do a full restore to my Win 98 comp. It deleted all of my programs, fav places, along with all of my internet connections! I finally got back on via my laptop. Be very careful of those attachments out there. This was from a friend who didn't even know he was infected, what a drag! Merry Xmass and Happy Holidays to all my bass brothers. 356 Wed, Dec 24, 6:11PM EST anonymous woof woof 357 Wed, Dec 24, 7:24PM EST Luther Seasons Greetings and Happy Holidays fellow "Low-enders". Have a safe and happy New Year. Maybe Santa will bring you something special this x-mas. Be well! 358 Thu, Dec 25, 8:00AM EST Big g Happy Holidays to all. Oops gotta go, I think I hear something on the roof! 359 Thu, Dec 25, 12:27AM EST Skiball Holly hippo days from Orlano Fl. Peace on Erf 360 Thu, Dec 25, 12:28AM EST Skiball i gotta be me :} 361 Thu, Dec 25, 2:24PM EST AzBass (new name since the Azola Bug is on the auction block) HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND ALL THE BEST IN THE NEW YEAR!.............................. Archer: *LOL* Ummmm... I think I've driven by the Jar a couple times? Never stopped in. Sad to say, those days have passed me by... 362 Fri, Dec 26, 10:02AM EST crimins Hope everyone is having a good 'un. That's southern for Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! 363 Fri, Dec 26, 3:34PM EST old timer Happy Holidays and the best of health... 364 Sun, Dec 28, 6:05PM EST someguy I'm trying to decide between a fender jazz bass and a precision bass. I play fast punk with a pick. I want tone, not too smooth, but not all tinny and empty sounding like punk bass often is. So, something inbetween, I guess. Sorry I'm so vague. Any ideas whether jazz or precision would fit me better? 365 Mon, Dec 29, 12:35AM EST anonymous1000 There are too many basses out there to JUST go with Fender , try em all . 366 Mon, Dec 29, 3:51PM EST someguy People keep telling me I should look at Lakland, but none of the stores around me seem to carry any, can't find anywhere to try one. Small company I suppose. Any thoughts on Lakland? 367 Mon, Dec 29, 5:10PM EST crimins Someguy > I notice a lot of punk guys use Warwicks. I've never tried one since I'm not punk. Look in Bass Player mag - a lot of the punk-types use the Warwicks. 368 Mon, Dec 29, 7:25PM EST Mr.Bass Someguy> I personally like the Jazz bass only because of the thinner neck up near the nut. I can get around on it faster than a Precision. If you are doing more of a riff like Punk and have some fast lines I say the Jazz is the way to go..I also like Carvin basses for the clarity. Good luck, and try as many as you can is great advice. 369 Tue, Dec 30, 7:01PM EST osram I have had a jazz, just got a '78 precision. For playability, go with the jazz, for sound: Nothing beats the precision. 370 Tue, Dec 30, 7:02PM EST osram I have had a jazz, just got a '78 precision. For playability, go with the jazz, for sound: Nothing beats the precision. 371 Tue, Dec 30, 7:59PM EST big g Its alive!!! Well I got the Voxder 99% completed. It sounds great. I don't have a picture posted on a website yet but if you would like me to send you a jpeg, send your addy to rumblethump@yahoo.com and I'll get one out to you. 372 Tue, Dec 30, 8:21PM EST skiball G>> As I read your Email I had to roll my eyes and say "this I gotta see" but thats a cool looking axe!!And you say it sounds good?!! Love it man!! 373 Tue, Dec 30, 8:24PM EST skiball Osram>I too have a Jazz (62 r.i. fretless) and a 78 precision ( modified W/ active p/j barts) great minds think alike eh< 374 Tue, Dec 30, 8:26PM EST skiball Someguy>> Get the precision for punk. Do it for Sid 375 Tue, Dec 30, 8:27PM EST skiball Happy new Year Bruthers!!! 376 Tue, Dec 30, 10:52PM EST big g skiball>thank you. Anyone gigging tomorrow night? 377 Wed, Dec 31, 12:17AM EST big g Many thanks to Harley (Pete) over at the dudepit for hosting my voxder pics!! 378 Wed, Dec 31, 12:18AM EST big g 379 Thu, Jan 1, 8:34PM EST Tired of waisting your time with indie record lables with no money to promote you properly? No money to get you in the right Pro Studio? Are you tired of not having the right producers, engineers, songwriters to work on your songs? having trouble with financing your demo song? Look no further ! Platinum Hill Records, is a record label fully funded with its own multi million dollar state of the art recording studio , fully staffed with engineers, producers, and stong artist development team. Our goal is to develope the the next big artist from Canada. If you are a talented artist. And you feel that you are the best of the best , email us some regular pictures of yourself along with a short bio on why you should meet with us at our studio for a free demo c.d If picked we will record a demo song for you and consider signing you to our label. please send your pictures and bio to sara@platinumhill.com 380 Fri, Jan 2, 12:28AM EST AzBass AHHHHH!!!! SPAM! SPAM ALERT!!! ....hmmmm.... I just gotta wonder why the &^%* they would come in here to look for the next Canadian Wonder? *LOL* 381 Fri, Jan 2, 3:50PM EST burmashave ze next canadian wonder?? Trudging across the tundra with my faithful sled dog Avalanche, I log on to AOL, and find this great chance. Rap, hiphop or Ska?? Dis is your chance to be a star! Now everyone knows this is the place. Because before you have anything, you got to have BASS. 382 Sat, Jan 3, 10:50AM EST levite sheeesh...maybe i should start advertising on here..........juzkidding BIG G.... I love the new bass.....send me one and Ill try it out in the studio... 383 Sat, Jan 3, 2:29PM EST big g levite>the bass is in the mail ;o) I think it WOULD be appropriate for YOU to spam here. At least your a regular. 384 Mon, Jan 5, 10:10AM EST c rimins Went to Nashville this weekend to Belmont Univ. studios and spent 2 13-hour days in there laying down tracks with Barrylee Harwood > button It was a lot of work, but worth it. We'll be going back in March to do more > button 385 Mon, Jan 5, 11:49PM EST franklin hi all 386 Tue, Jan 6, 9:51AM EST big g hi franklin 387 Tue, Jan 6, 7:16PM EST anonymous1000 Here's a little food for thought...A recent poll taken by GUITAR PLAYER magazine , named LIMPBIZKIT and CREED as the WORST bands . I totally agree but , what does that say about the current state of music when 2 of the most popular ( to the fans ) band's are voted the worst by MUSICIAN'S ??? So what do you think about that...? 388 Tue, Jan 6, 9:33PM EST big g Just goes to show how much guitar players know?? :o) 389 Wed, Jan 7, 11:36AM EST Manne basic xlr ciao a tuti come va?? 390 Wed, Jan 7, 11:37AM EST Manne basic xlr Cerco un ampli testata e cassa 4x10 trace elliot 391 Thu, Jan 8, 12:06AM EST la qualit traccia elliot. che tipo di musica voi gioca? 392 Fri, Jan 9, 10:31AM EST BassLand See you at NAMM 393 Fri, Jan 9, 2:01PM EST big g BassLand> Can't make it this year. How about a Namm report for us after it's over. TIA 394 Fri, Jan 9, 8:03PM EST lowlifer Gonna miss talking to CK this year Big G? 395 Sat, Jan 10, 4:36AM EST Archer One link in my current massive study effort. As always use your own best judgement. Preventing Repetitive Stress Injuries (RSI)button NAMM so close but yet so far, do tell. I saw Michael Manring and Jeff Berlin do a jam together when I was there last. Stu Ham also rocked. 396 Sat, Jan 10, 8:09AM EST big g lowlifer> good to see your still lurking. Any new gear added to your rig lately? Of course I'm going to miss seeing all the incredible musicians, new equipment, and the great impromptu performances. This years Bass Bash should be killer. Maybe bassland will fill us in on the highlights? 397 Sun, Jan 11, 9:26PM EST lowlifer Was cleaning out the closets and found a XL black T-shirt with the SansAmp logo worn maybe 1 time if all. Who wants it as its to small for me. Pay the shipping and its yours. 398 Tue, Jan 13, 8:36AM EST anonymous Hmmmmm I just downloaded a bass solo at www.q-tuner.com Any bass player should listen to this,incredible harmonic work! 399 Tue, Jan 13, 8:38PM EST Mr.Bass I don't know if anyone posted this yet or knows what the outcome was... how tragic. Loverboy bass player swept overboard, missing December 2, 2000 Web posted at: 2:09 AM EST (0709 GMT) SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- The bass guitar player of 1980s pop band, Loverboy, was missing at sea after being swept overboard by a 25-foot (7.5-meter) wave, the performer's management company said. Scott Smith, 45, of Vancouver, British Columbia, was tossed overboard the Sea Major, his 37-foot (11-meter) sailboat. The incident occurred Thursday afternoon about four miles (six kilometers) off San Francisco's Ocean Beach, a release from manager Lou Blair said. Two travel companions, who have not been named, were below deck when the wave struck the boat. They were not injured. The wave's force was so strong it broke off the boat's steering wheel, the release said. The U.S. Coast Guard searched for Smith -- who was not